Games that are now retro as of 2023

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A cursory glance at a Google search suggests 2-7 is the average age range of when people start playing video games. So in 5-6 years there will be "Switch was my childhood" comments to make us feel nice and old.
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I have already been irreversibly gutted when I saw a comment somewhere from someone saying Dead Rising was a childhood game they loved playing with their dad. That is a game that I drove to the store and bought by myself, with money I made, from my job, that paid me with a paycheck I had to declare on my taxes.
 
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I'm old as fuck.
 

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I dunno man. To me, when I think retro games, I think anything before the ps3 era, with the original xbox and ps2 only barely making it into the category. I'm not gonna go all grognard and say that in order to be retro, it has to be 2d with sprites, because that's arbitrary and kind of dumb imo, I think something like the original quake could be classified as retro, along with most early PC games that were fully 3d. But what really is the definition of retro when applied to video games anyways? It's always seemed kinda nebulous. I get that for some, it's more a way of posturing than about anything really to do with the games themselves, and I've always kinda ignored people like that because they tend to come off as redditoresque cum gargling poseur faggots, but ultimately, it's whatever.

My happy ass is old enough to remember the days before the NES came out and Atari consoles, arcades, and DOS games if you had money (a decent PC back in the 80's could run you north of 2 grand) were the hotness. Gaming has advanced in a crazy way over the years I've been an aficionado. Some of it's amazing, some of it is total bullshit.

I don't think any console or PC game released from the PS3 era and up could ever truly be labeled as retro personally, but like I said the term is nebulous. Some zoomer will probably consider the newest pokemon games retro when they're my age, not even knowing some of the games I played in my childhood still exist at all. For an example of that, ask any zoomer if they've played a commander keen game or some shit.
 
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If we're going by the logic that anything is "retro" once it hits the 10 year mark, then it is horrifying to think that FNaF is getting ever so closer to that double digit number. Even more horrifying knowing Undertale's coming next.
 
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Colon capital V said:
If we're going by the logic that anything is "retro" once it hits the 10 year mark, then it is horrifying to think that FNaF is getting ever so closer to that double digit number. Even more horrifying knowing Undertale's coming next.
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I can absolutely believe that those two will be talked about in retro-nostalgia terms by those that grew up adoring them. Not for entirely terrible reasons.
 
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I still have trouble accepting PS2 era as retro. You're going to have to come up with something more than age (such as a wholesale change in graphics or gameplay) to justify it to me. Maybe next gen will do it, if they do things like removing the ability to buy games physically or mandate VR inclusion. I'll gladly accept my horrifying ratings now.
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PS2 was one of those gens that lasted forever just because of how many consoles were sold. Just because of that it's harder to think of it as retro because technically it had games until nearly 2010 at least. I just checked and it's actually 2014.
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A year after the ps4 had launched. You could really consider the system to be multi generational.
 
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Toolbox said:
PS2 was one of those gens that lasted forever just because of how many consoles were sold. Just because of that it's harder to think of it as retro because technically it had games until nearly 2010 at least. I just checked and it's actually 2014.
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A year after the ps4 had launched. You could really consider the system to be multi generational.
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Well, 2013, sports games are released the year before the year on the box. FIFA 14 was famously released on PS2/3/4 in PAL regions. The last Xbox and Gamecube games were released in '07, so for PS2 to chug along another six years was impressive.

(Wii also made it 13 years thanks to Just Dance 2020 :smug: )
 
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Lone Wandering Courier said:
Just think, the Xbox one is going to be 10 years old this year. It's kinda horrifying when you think about it.
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The other horrifying thing, is that SimCity (2013) will be 10 years old this year too. And I still won't forget how EA threw the SimCity franchise away with 2013's horrible launch state, and the original Maxis studio getting shut down as a result. (The Sims is made by The Sims Studio, which is a seperate version of Maxis)
 
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Thiletonomics said:
The other horrifying thing, is that SimCity (2013) will be 10 years old this year too. And I still won't forget how EA threw the SimCity franchise away with 2013's horrible launch state, and the original Maxis studio getting shut down as a result. (The Sims is made by The Sims Studio, which is a seperate version of Maxis)
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The only reason I played Simcity 13 was because some friends had it and we fucked around making cities, competing or collaborating. The online mode was the saving grace of that game with everything else pulling it down. Does skylines have online like simcity did?
 
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The only reason I played Simcity 13 was because some friends had it and we fucked around making cities, competing or collaborating. The online mode was the saving grace of that game with everything else pulling it down. Does skylines have online like simcity did?
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I don't think Cities Skylines has any sort of online co-op.
 
SSj_Ness said:
My nephews have no interest in older games and definitely don't think they're cool. Might just be them, or it could be a generational thing. I thought the Atari 2600 generation was interesting as a kid, of course it wasn't as good as my N64 but I liked checking it out. They just don't think that way though.

Today kids are spoiled for choice. Most of us just had a small selection of games growing up, but even the biggest collections back then are dwarfed by what's available now. An infinite number of free mobile games, tons of free games on consoles, plus subscription services means they don't need to look back even out of curiosity, let alone boredom.
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So much free stuff it's crazy. Plus piracy is so easy now. Games getting cracked up the ass before you even had a chance to buy them.

Anyway, 10 years is too early. Maybe to a younger person it seems like a long time. But to people who are old enough to remember the first few console gens it's kind of laughable. So the amount of time it takes to make something "retro" might be perception based and more relevant to age.

Take music for example. Nevermind (Nirvana) is over 30 years old now. So is Ten (Pearl Jam) and Dirt (Alice In Chains). But that isn't Classic Rock. To me that's rock from the 60s and 70s. So saying it's in a similar vein to Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Doors, Led Zeppelin, ect... Is kind of asinine. Even a kid can tell it's not the same era or music if they give enough listens. But there's probably young people who can't tell Greta Van Fleet from Zeppelin anyway. *sigh*

Maybe I'm being a turbo autist but I feel like as far as labels go stuff should be categorized via era for easy well... Categorizing. Early console CD ROM games can be similar to late 16 bit cartridge titles. at times. Like if you look at some Turbo CD and Sega CD games there's not a ton of difference save for CD quality sound, slightly better graphics and more storage. But then it starts getting a hell of a lot different. And games from ten years ago, unless they are specifically designed to look like games from 30 years ago, are going to be a hell of a lot different.

It's just not similar enough to categorize the same way. It's like saying Mildred Pierce is the same as Jurassic Park because they are both old movies that won Oscars.
 
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Yeah there is nothing remotely retro about a game made on PS4. Not even PS3. There just isn't that big of a difference in gameplay, graphics, or basic design decisions (like lives systems and manually saves versus checkpoints). Probably never will be, the first early games were when people were working within strict computing constraints and just figuring everything out for the first time.
 
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