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[Breadbassket]

Rosendale picked Biggs. Audible groans can be heard.

I'm not doing the math, but it's likely all Gaetz now.

I think he wants it to be this way. If he goes with McCarthy after all that talk about "never voting McCarthy" I imagine quite a few people won't like him anymore to say the least. Honestly either way on an objective level props to him to bringing it down to the wire in such a dramatic and anticipation-filled fashion if that is what actually happens.

 

[mandatorylurk]

The 20 can still oppose every bill and stop passage until the rules are changed if the RINOs go through with this, that’s their fallback. And they can weather it with pure justification because McCarthy sold them out.

McCarthy would be a fool to let the RINOs sabotage this and needs to lean harder on them than he has on the 20 because they will be easy primary fodder and he would remove their funding out of spite to making him such a weak speaker. This Tony Gonzalez is pretty much done if he still votes no on the rules, his district is in the Austin/San Antonio area but he can be easily replaced by a big booty GOP Latina who falls more in line.

 

[thog]

Gaetz has a couple guys hounding him. They clearly don't have his vote. At least, I hope. You can never really trust a politician.

 

[pwnest injun]

I know how we could stop them voting McCarthy. We simply organize a mob to force our way into the capital. IN TO THE CAPITAL!!

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Not sure how accurate this is:

Jenna Ellis 🍊🦅 (@JennaEllisEsq)

BREAKING: Source tells me the closed-room background why the 14 are now backing McCarthy. THREAD 🧵

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Fuck Boebert and Gaetz.

My scorching hot take is that the major donors of the Freedom Cuckus told them to know their place and fall in line. That they made their point to have McCarthy look like an idiot but they need to get back to business to pass more bullshit for Ukraine. So it’s either fall in line or get primary’d in the next election. So most are going to fall in line because most of them have never had an adult career type of job in the private sector. Government work is all they truly know.

The funny part is that McCarthy is going to fuck them over every chance he can get. So falling in line does absolutely nothing for them because fuckin’ lol at thinking a snake like McCarthy would ever keep his word.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Hopefully Gatz will hold out,

 

[thog]

Gaetz voted present. Never trust a politician.

 

[Breadbassket]

Gaetz voted present. Never trust a politician.

In this case it seems the ones who were more subtle about their disdain for McCarthy were the real holdouts meanwhile Boebert and Gaetz just blew smoke.

 

[Puff]

Gaetz voted present. Never trust a politician.

I'm unaware of how this vote works. Does this lower the total needed for majority?

 

[John.Doe]

I know how we could stop them voting McCarthy. We simply organize a mob to force our way into the capital. IN TO THE CAPITAL!!

Seriously, who gave Ray Epps an account?

 

[AnonymousKot]

I feel fucking betrayed

 

[-Charlemagne-]

Gatez voted present. McCarthy's Speaker and the Freedom Caucus got played.

Edit: Hold on, The thresehold wasn't lowered enough. I think it has to go to round 15 since Gatez and Boebart didn't vote for McCarthy I think?

 

[Puff]

The Freedom Caucus got played.

That's only probably true so far.

 

[AnonymousKot]

That's only probably true so far.

RINO is gonna screw them over now, the 'concessions' they got were worth jack shit

 

[Breadbassket]

I'm unaware of how this vote works. Does this lower the total needed for majority?

It's a vote that is neither nay or yay for something, from what I gather it effectively serves as an absention that lowers the overall majority needed for an issue. Since Gaetz and Boebert said present instead of voting for someone that isn't McCarthy that would basically mean they essentially pushed him to the finish line and abandoned the ones who stuck to their guns.

 

[tehpope]

Get fucked Freedom Caucus. Hope getting anally raped with no vaseline was worth betraying your constituents.

 

[Puff]

RINO is gonna screw them over now, the 'concessions' they got were worth jack shit

I said it's probably true. Yet to be seen.

 

[thog]

McCarthy has 216 and it isn't enough. His men appear to be pleading for Boebert and Gaetz to change their votes. They'll probably do it, considering they softened.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

In this case it seems the ones who were more subtle about their disdain for McCarthy were the real holdouts meanwhile Boebert and Gaetz just blew smoke.

I figured that the present vote was always a possibility. It technically absolves him of not voting Mckarthy. Personally I think it will not go down well for him come an election.

Other news (a ray of sunlight before the clouds close in):

https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/20/20-51016-CV2.pdf

And applying that definition to a semi-automatic rifle equipped with a non-mechanical bump stock, we conclude that such a weapon is not a machinegun for purposes of the Gun Control Act and National Firearms Act. [...]The Final Rule promulgated by the ATF violates the APA. We therefore REVERSE the judgment of the district court and REMAND with instructions to enter judgment for Cargill.

5th Circuit (Texas) told ATF to eat shit and go pound sand on bumpstocks. Up to SCOTUS it goes.

 

[-Charlemagne-]

Holy shit. Gatez and Boebart voting present don't count as voting for a name. it is 215 out of 230, dead 50.0% even. They miscounted their rounding and thought it would be enough but it's not. It might have to go to another round.