Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Foltest]

Sometimes it's hard to remember that despite how fundamentally cucked Sweden as a nation is today, it used to be an actually relatively based country that knew what it was doing when it came to war. Some of that still lives on today, and if the CV90 wins the NGCV (is it still going on even?) I'll be 0% surprised. I'll also be 0% surprised if they select/selected something stupid instead, since US procurement seems to be constitutionally bound to use only the smoothest brains to staff its offices.

He was talking about the Swiss, not Swedes.
Anyone, the Swedish defense force has a lot of IFV for a country that is not that big. Over 500 of those buggers and around 120 leopard II tanks.
Let’s hope that Sweden will get their head out of their asses and send some archers.

 

[Ghostse]

As the russkis have spent too much equipment and artillery ammo to even attempt their 3rd world style offensives, they are reduced to cosplay WW1 (pic related)
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However, they are getting some meager results, and I have provided an illustrative video to show their progress:

I'm giving it a week before Fog of war clears, which is one of the reasons I don't care that liveuamap is slow. Russians had taken the western part of Bakhmut before getting driven back again, so we'll see if this holds - if they can turn this into a breakthrough of if they get knocked back. Grounds probably frozen solid so that would make entrenching challenging

 

[BaldAndMorallyBankrupt]

It's amusing to me how the narrative on these vehicles has done a complete 180 now that it's being sent to Ukraine.

The Bradley was considered a good vehicle provided it was being assisted by an Abrams as the Bradley itself was outgunned and outranged by just about everything else. It relied in the Abrams taking the heat for it. Not to mention the T72s the Iraqi's were fielding were just plain bad to begin with. You can't even pair it up with the Ukies T64s or T72s because the Bradley has a much taller profile is is likely the first thing to get acquired.

Like results for the Bradley M2: I doubt they'll last long very long but assuming it's used well it should do a lot of damage while it lasts.

The Marder has always been considered "good" on paper but a nightmare to actually field. The maintenance time, cost, and baseline knowledge required to service it is just plain too high. The Marder is so reliable at breaking down in fact not even the germny military itself could maintain a readyness of over 50% for the damn things.

Likely results for the Marder: Will probably break down as it's getting off the train tracks and no one will be able to repair it.

The AMX10RC is just an armored car. If you follow more modern naming conventions you could call it a Fire Support Vehicle. That doesn't change the fact that it has wet cardboard for armor and it was specifically designed for low intensity conflict with mostly flat and arid topography. That means it's only usable against starving African terrorist cells and not really anywhere else. The AMX10RC is also heavily reliant on french doctrine to work, as in deploying it as a light recon vehicle while having it's vision capabilities supplemented by even lighter armored cars like the VBL. There is a 100% chance the Ukies will misuse it.

Likely results for the AMX10RC: Assuming they don't get it stuck somewhere, they'll definitely end up misusing it and getting whoever is operating them killed.

 

[teriyakiburns]

He was talking about the Swiss, not Swedes.
Anyone, the Swedish defense force has a lot of IFV for a country that is not that big. Over 500 of those buggers and around 120 leopard II tanks.
Let’s hope that Sweden will get their head out of their asses and send some archers.

I suspect this whole silliness with Russia has given it an almighty tug. Sweden used to have one of the largest standing armies in Europe, and definitely one of the best equipped, simply because their military leadership, when asked to cut spending, would always respond with some variation of "which part of the country shall we stop defending?" The prosperity of the 90s, then the post-9/11 desire to virtue signal about "openeness" and "internationalism" saw them making huge cuts to the military. The shift was enhanced by the EU seeking a trade rapport with Russia, which appeared to obviate the most prominent of Sweden's defence priorities. They're reversing that stance now.

 

[MuppetSlaughter]

Im tired of these Ukranians moving into my city, I hate these cock suckers more than Venezuelan immigrants, at-least the Latino's get jobs.... These Ukranian refugees come in with 10 kids and turn there state paid for property into a mirror image of the Eastern European shit hole they came from, 10 stripped BMW's in the front yard, Yard is a forest/ Jungle, They don't Work a legitimate job, they have no tags on there cars. There Ukrainian flag fly's proudly in there US tax payer paid for residence.

Go back home you Ukranian Monkeys we don't want you here. If you won't fight for your own country, why should I or my kids who pay for your welfare?

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Im tired of these Ukranians moving into my city, I hate these cock suckers more than Venezuelan immigrants, at-least the Latino's get jobs.... These Ukranian refugees come in with 10 kids and turn there state paid for property into a mirror image of the Eastern European shit hole they came from, 10 stripped BMW's in the front yard, Yard is a forest/ Jungle, They don't Work a legitimate job, they have no tags on there cars. There Ukrainian flag fly's proudly in there US tax payer paid for residence.

Go back home you Ukranian Monkeys we don't want you here. If you won't fight for your own country, why should I or my kids who pay for your welfare?

I was dealing with loads of these gyppos at work last year. Turn up with their kids, trophy wife and ask for a discount because they are Ukrainian. Oh AMG G-Wagen parked outside too.
1 - If you're a man go home and fight
2 - If you need money, sell the luxury car, don't beg for a discount

I do hope that the men abroad get rounded up and sent home, especially the cunt in a Rolls flying ukr plates who cut me off last week, the pricks begging for donations, and those who internet warrior, wanting other people to fight for them.

 

[Fascist Kirk]

The Bradley Fighting Vehicle = F-35 of The 80's. Over priced government pork POS. its not a gift its a curse

there was a funny movie on it called the Pentagon Wars.
The Pentagon Wars

 

[DumbDude43]

The AMX10RC is just an armored car.

it has a big cannon though

to me it looks more like a wheeled tank destroyer than anything else

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Oh right, that would be the Department of Justice, my bad. DHS would just load them onto the plane.

Extraditions are handled by the Office of Internal Affairs.

 

[Hell on Earth]

I'm giving it a week before Fog of war clears, which is one of the reasons I don't care that liveuamap is slow. Russians had taken the western part of Bakhmut before getting driven back again, so we'll see if this holds - if they can turn this into a breakthrough of if they get knocked back. Grounds probably frozen solid so that would make entrenching challenging

Liveuamap is a lost cause since it only posts reports of the Ukre MOD, which has either lied or gives too liitle in the way of information.

btw, there's been a Russian breakthrough in Soledar and most of the city has fallen in a couple of days, which is surprising since the Russians spent the last 6 months attacking the city without many results.

Why the hell would any country that borders Russia or was part of the USSR want to join NATO? *Indiscriminately shells & rockets the suburbs of the capital*
Can you give me any reason? *forcibly relocates foreign citizens to inside russia*
Any reason at all? *Murders civilians and POWs*
You can't, can you? *Attacks civilian power grid in the middle of winter*

Ukraine does the same thing to separatist cities and civilians and have been doing so for more than 8 years and I think by now you should have seen many videos of Ukre soldiers killing or torturing separatist/Russian soldiers.

Giving anyone in an eastern European war the moral highground is retarded

 

[Ghostse]

The Bradley was considered a good vehicle provided it was being assisted by an Abrams as the Bradley itself was outgunned and outranged by just about everything else. It relied in the Abrams taking the heat for it. Not to mention the T72s the Iraqi's were fielding were just plain bad to begin with. You can't even pair it up with the Ukies T64s or T72s because the Bradley has a much taller profile is is likely the first thing to get acquired.

Like results for the Bradley M2: I doubt they'll last long very long but assuming it's used well it should do a lot of damage while it lasts.

Source: Cav Scout who was an M2 gunner in Iraq I & II

The 25mm will do jack shit against tanks, but it will utterly wreck any infantry's day just demolishing anything they are hiding behind, and doing it at range. They were wasting republican guard before they even got in RPG range, not that the RPGs would have done anything.
Night vision & Infrared means you can watch your adversary creep around at night and let him feel like he's being clever before turning him into a fine red mist.
Never got to fire any TOWs in anger, something he expressed regret about.

Granted not an apples to apples thing, and no M1s supporting as you said.

not even the germny military itself could maintain a readyness of over 50% for the damn things.

Likely results for the Marder: Will probably break down as it's getting off the train tracks and no one will be able to repair it.

Fucking ouch.

The AMX10RC is just an armored car. If you follow more modern naming conventions you could call it a Fire Support Vehicle. That doesn't change the fact that it has wet cardboard for armor and it was specifically designed for low intensity conflict with mostly flat and arid topography. That means it's only usable against starving African terrorist cells and not really anywhere else. The AMX10RC is also heavily reliant on french doctrine to work, as in deploying it as a light recon vehicle while having it's vision capabilities supplemented by even lighter armored cars like the VBL. There is a 100% chance the Ukies will misuse it.

Likely results for the AMX10RC: Assuming they don't get it stuck somewhere, they'll definitely end up misusing it and getting whoever is operating them killed.

it has a big cannon though
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to me it looks more like a wheeled tank destroyer than anything else

Again, my guess is AMX10RCs will be used for fall 2023 offensive thunder-runs.

And a wheeled Tank Destroyer is pretty much exactly what it iis.
All I can think of when I saw they were sending AMX10RCs was stories on History Channel documentaries talking about the Hellcat getting grossly miss used and crews being killed senselessly because generals didn't grasp Tank destroyer != Tank. And if they aren't being earmarked and crews trained for rapid assaults, I'm pretty sure history will be repeating there.

 

[draggs]

Any heavy vehicle with a turret that uses wheels instead of tracks is trying to fill a niche that doesn't really need filled. Those big wheels aren't going to be anywhere near as effective off road as tracks. Shoot and scoot short range artillery and tank destroyer from defensive positions, fine, but self propelled artillery and mortars and infantry anti armor weapons and real tanks already exist and do the jobs better.

Feel like the wheeled vehicle is cheaper is the sole reason they exist. A Stryker or Bradley costs 1/3 to 1/2 what an M1A2 does, not an exact comparison the Bradley has tracks and neither has a large cannon,* couldn't find a unit cost for an AMX.

*Stryker does have a model with a 105mm cannon but out of ~5,000 Strykers built only about 150 with the big gun, and those arent in service anymore. Because why when you have lots of real tanks?

 

[Butterschmalz]

Go back home you Ukranian Monkeys we don't want you here. If you won't fight for your own country, why should I or my kids who pay for your welfare?

"In 2022, the Biden administration and the U.S. Congress have directed nearly $50 billion in assistance to Ukraine, which includes humanitarian, financial, and military support, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute."

Source: How Much Aid Has the U.S. Sent Ukraine? Here Are Six Charts.

50 bln well spent! Meanwhile in Detroit....

 

[The Punished Mitch]

"In 2022, the Biden administration and the U.S. Congress have directed nearly $50 billion in assistance to Ukraine, which includes humanitarian, financial, and military support, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute."

Source: How Much Aid Has the U.S. Sent Ukraine? Here Are Six Charts.

50 bln well spent! Meanwhile in Detroit....

Counterpoint: One can recover from even nuclear warfare, the problem in Detroit is of a far more pervasive and damaging nature.

Total Nigger Infestation

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

50 bln well spent! Meanwhile in Detroit....

The economic return for bringing Ukraine into western spheres of influence will be far greater than the money spent.

 

[HX-2]

"In 2022, the Biden administration and the U.S. Congress have directed nearly $50 billion in assistance to Ukraine, which includes humanitarian, financial, and military support, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute."

Source: How Much Aid Has the U.S. Sent Ukraine? Here Are Six Charts.

50 bln well spent! Meanwhile in Detroit....

It's not a secret that all the left does is highlight issues in other countries and then do some moral grandstanding while pretending that domestic poverty issues don't exist.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Ukraine does the same thing to separatist cities and civilians and have been doing so for more than 8 years and I think by now you should have seen many videos of Ukre soldiers killing or torturing separatist/Russian soldiers.

Most of those videos use the same crisis actors in different videos, because Russians are the cheapest niggers on the planet, and can’t even afford to pay more actors.

 

[AgendaPoster]

"In 2022, the Biden administration and the U.S. Congress have directed nearly $50 billion in assistance to Ukraine, which includes humanitarian, financial, and military support, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute."

Source: How Much Aid Has the U.S. Sent Ukraine? Here Are Six Charts.

50 bln well spent! Meanwhile in Detroit....

Would you invest in negro crime infested shitholes? Isn't Detroit like 80% bleqqq?
Amerimutts and blacks are hated even by their own elites, such is the fate of a multiculti empire.

 

[TheAntiCoomer]

The Bradley Fighting Vehicle = F-35 of The 80's. Over priced government pork POS. its not a gift its a curse

there was a funny movie on it called the Pentagon Wars.
The Pentagon Wars

Pentagon Wars got debooonked by some yt shills a year or so ago. That movie is less like a documentary, and more like the other hollywood flicks that say their based on a true story. Still, its an infantry fighting vehicle so 100% we see ukriane use it wrong.

 

[Shovelbird]

Counterpoint: One can recover from even nuclear warfare, the problem in Detroit is of a far more pervasive and damaging nature.

Total Nigger Infestation

Once it was the arsenal of usa...