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[moocow]

If you haven't seen her videos, they're probably worse than you can imagine.

Spoiler: TL;DW:

>Woman claims she doesn't personally know the Professor, is going off of "knowledge" after she saw her photo and did some kind of reading
>Crafts this insane multi-part, fanfic tier narrative about how the Professor and one of the female victims were both closeted lesbians
>Student eventually wanted nothing to do with it, so the Professor then ropes in another student named Jack to commit the murders as some kind of cover up
>Professor sends cease and desists, woman claims the Professor's just threatening her but won't actually sue
>Professor sues, woman proclaims it's fine because she has physical evidence that will lead to the Professor's arrest
>Finally proceeds to DFE off her TikTok

Oh what an insufferable, ugly cunt. It's a rare day I take academia's side on anything, but I hope the professor grinds this bitch into fucking dust for this.

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

Cow Aquamarinesdreams has changed her user to Stawklove and added her location to her bio. It’s just a matter of finding his mom’s house and the dox is done.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

Can some woman comment if the allure of serial killers is either:
a : ) I can fix them
b : ) Misunderstood bad boys who go against society are sexy
c : ) Fetishising dark, deprave things
d : ) something else?

All of the above?

The little I know about some of the people who write letters to prisoners and fall in love with them is that they often bail on it after a while and move on to the next one. They want the attention of a man who is clearly desperate for it and whom they know is gonna stick to them because subconsciously he may not have a choice. As long as that attention is fresh and exciting they keep in touch. I know that some even send money with letters and promise more for a reply. Is this related?

Some women who've been abused when they were kids or who witnessed domestic abuse between their parents go for violent men. They're either trying to re-enact the abuse in a more controlled way (though it never works out like that), or they believe that the world is just an inherently violent abusive place, so their best bet is to get with the craziest, most violent bastard and have him with them rather than against them (though again, it never works out like that either).

There are actually a very few legitimate ways these losers can channel their autism into helping fight crime. You have to do it through the proper authorities, some of whom have set up crowdsourcing sites for it.
Here's Europol's Trace An Object site, for example. The police go through child molestation videos and pictures and crop out all the horrifying nonce shit leaving only distinctive items, locations and clothes from the scenes. Then if any members of the public recognise any them, they can tell the police what they know about it via the website. Things like if they recognise a child's T-shirt was sold in X store, or in Y country, or in Z time period, that narrows down where and when the abuse happene, and that helps the police.
There is a subReddit for it that's fairly normal compared to most of Reddit, people playing internet detective but in the proper way. If true crime fans would stick to things like that, then they would be much more useful than harassing murder victims' families and hometowns, but then they wouldn't be lolcows.

 

[TokiBun]

Not to mention trace and object will post the faces of unidentified child abusers to see if anyone in the public can recognize pedos stupid enough to have their face on camera.

 

[RainbowStarlight]

Ok just so everyone knows the dude in the middle is the YouTuber. Surprisingly, he is not the weirdo serial killer himself. Was gonna give the video a try but couldn't get past the autistic face paint.

 

[Gef Mongoose]

I’ve come to two possible conclusions as to why the “internet crowd solving a case” idea has became so popular over the past few years.

1. Michelle McNamara’s “I’ll Be Gone In The Dark” book about the EAR/ONS killer gained a lot of traction in the true crime community when it came out. The basic white woman podcasts still mention it often. I think that it spurned the idea on to their listeners that they could do the same thing, and try to find out the identity of a serial killer from 50-60 years ago.

This ignoring the fact that McNamara had more money, more resources, and didn’t actually solve anything. It wasn’t until years after she passed away and Patton Oswalt pushing her to be a martyr and trying to get his 15 minutes of fame from his wife’s death on the true crime circuit, that the EAR/ONS killer’s identity was discovered, and he was arrested. And that was by actual detectives digging out some DNA through his trash.

2. The same basic white woman true crime podcasts usually heavily criticize the actual police investigating things, because they’re also trying to not be cancelled by the Twitter crowds. They genuinely start to believe that they can best any of the “evil” police who are investigating.

I’m certainly not saying that police haven’t dropped the ball, and continue to do so in the modern era sometimes. Especially in the past when it came to minority or homosexual victims. But I still don’t think that it warrants such a strong ACAB feel in some true crime spheres. And it doesn’t make the true crime wine mom a better detective.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

Also as of late there have been a lot of articles and bits n pieces kinda praising Jim Jones for being such a staunch anti-racist.

To be fair the press did that in his lifetime, too. It was like pulling teeth to find any serious mainstream criticism of him right up till the end. Remember, the politician who visited Jonestown was prepared to go back and say everything was hunky-dory, and if Jim hadn't gotten paranoid and had him assassinated he would have been fine.

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

Cow has been boring recently, posting her “family,”. Is trying to get famous for… I don’t know, she is obsessed with TikTok.

It’s, of course, going great.

 

[XANA]

Not to mention trace and object will post the faces of unidentified child abusers to see if anyone in the public can recognize pedos stupid enough to have their face on camera.

This entire thing reminds me when the Boston Bombings happened.

4chan, Reddit, and the TC community sprung into action to try to uncover the identity of the bomber based on a few blurry pictures. They falsely accused a few people including Sunil Tripathi (who had actually went missing a month before the bombings happened and was found in the Seekonk River about a week after the bombings, having allegedly committed suicide) of orchestrating the event. This later led to a huge media shitstorm after the actual bombers were found.

 

[trekkor]

I see this all the time in the r/UnresolvedMysteries subreddit, but I don't understand why these people refuse to accept that the police will most definitely keep critical info from the public. I get maybe newbies drunk on the ACAP juice are naive, but the long-time "fans" of true crime have no excuse. Criticism about police mishandling evidence is fine, some of them have done truly stupid things, but holding on to info that only the killer would know? There have been far too many instances of internet armchair detectives blaming all sorts of wild people based on "well, it's usually the husband/lover!" or "organized sex slavery!", so I do not blame the police at all for not telling the public about everything they found on a crime scene or surveilance videos. It's almost like some true crime enthusiasts don't want the criminal to be brought to justice, they just want to ruin the life of someone who they've deemed the killer.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

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Personal fave there is some no name smug sassy black chick (you know the type)true crime serial killer fan girl podcaster out there. Who was upset that black serial killers don't get attention and it really did come across serial killer fan girl mad that her personal favorite killrrs didn't get more attention. She also had a white bf, but I don't know what says.

Well, she's not wrong, much as its true that young conventionally attractive and sociable white female victims tend to get to and stay in headlines more than POC, especially but not exclusively Black, female victims of serial killers/crime in general. And it's true that most known serial killers are white men, but they don't fill 100% of the population [of serial killers].

[Sample, not offered as dispositive, pieces on race and notoriety of serial killers:]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251345434_African_American_Serial_Killers_Over-Represented_Yet_Underacknowledged

Not All Serial Killers Are White, Male Loners.

The media perpetuate stereotypes.

www.psychologytoday.com

How Serial Killers Captured Popular Culture

The serial killers has many faces in our movies, books, and shows, and we love them all, according to Tufts experts in psychology and sociology and an alum who writes mystery novels

now.tufts.edu

I suspect the "popularity" (general familiarity and discussed-ness) of white vs non-white serial killers is largely to do with both frequency and the fact that the general public is still majority-white (the percentage is sinking, but no other single race/ethnicity comes close), and people tend to respond more to "people [who seem to be] like us," because if they look like Jane Q. Public's brother or boyfriend and kill people who look like Jane or Jane's daughter, then Jane will more likely feel the real or imagined "whew coulda been me.". If it's Seven Nations teenaged women from broken homes disappearing in Canada, then even when repirted/publicized, there's less lazy ability to "feel" connected to the danger and the outcome.

TL; DR: people are self-focused, so an horrific act by or against someone "just like me," gives more of a thrill, positive or negative or both, than when done by/to someone from different circumstances, especially circumstances perceived to be culturally/ethnically/racially alien or that the perceiver believes they'll never encounter in their own world/life.

 

[Gef Mongoose]

I see this all the time in the r/UnresolvedMysteries subreddit, but I don't understand why these people refuse to accept that the police will most definitely keep critical info from the public. I get maybe newbies drunk on the ACAP juice are naive, but the long-time "fans" of true crime have no excuse. Criticism about police mishandling evidence is fine, some of them have done truly stupid things, but holding on to info that only the killer would know? There have been far too many instances of internet armchair detectives blaming all sorts of wild people based on "well, it's usually the husband/lover!" or "organized sex slavery!", so I do not blame the police at all for not telling the public about everything they found on a crime scene or surveilance videos. It's almost like some true crime enthusiasts don't want the criminal to be brought to justice, they just want to ruin the life of someone who they've deemed the killer.

They also fail to realize that police have held evidence back for decades. It’s an easy way to try to get a suspect to slip up when you’re interrogating them. The exact method of strangulation or the area of forest that a body was found on, wasn’t published in the media. But the suspect seems to be aware of it, and mentions it to the police themselves.

Other than the reason that you left above, another reason that I stopped perusing that subreddit was how easily “victim blaming” accusations were thrown around. Advising anyone to check the back seat of their car, or to try to not walk alone at night, is hardly victim blaming. It’s just trying to keep someone else from becoming a victim.

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

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Cow has been boring recently, posting her “family,”. Is trying to get famous for… I don’t know, she is obsessed with TikTok.


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It’s, of course, going great.
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Doesn’t even deny it.

Die.

 

[makeup]

Looking to relax and de-stress? Why not listen to some true crime ASMR - nothing is more comforting and soothing than hearing about horrific acts committed against innocent, real people, amirite? Jesus Christ.

 

[TrulyMan]

Looking to relax and de-stress? Why not listen to some true crime ASMR - nothing is more comforting and soothing than hearing about horrific acts committed against innocent, real people, amirite? Jesus Christ.

Finally the true crime equivalent of

Absolutely not the same game, but definitely the same ball park to put a twist on a well known idiom.
You'd simply have to be an airhead to do either of the two.

 

[TokiBun]

Finally the true crime equivalent of
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Absolutely not the same game, but definitely the same ball park to put a twist on a well known idiom.
You'd simply have to be an airhead to do either of the two.

Apparently people are still doing influencer shoots outside concentration camps.

 

[choccy milk]

I got inspired by @TrulyMan and took a field trip through Instagram's location tags... lo and behold, true crime tourists ogling at private residences and taking excited photos in front of the former homes & properties of famous murderers and murder victims!

First we have the former childhood home of Jeffrey Dahmer in Akron Ohio.

Spoiler

This home is privately owned but that doesn't stop people from tromping all around, bothering the neighbors, and collecting dirt and rocks.


Here OP recounts her experience as being incredibly positive. The homeowners said it's fine as long as you don't come on the property or bother them! Surely that's out of the goodness of their hearts, and not the legal limits of their property ownership rights. It's just a coincidence that there's no house numbers visible from the street. Also, totally go check out the high school that Dahmer attended like 40 years ago! Just make sure you go after hours or people might think you're some kind of creep or something!

Next, let's travel to suburban Chicago, where we find the plot of land that formerly held John Wayne Gacy's home!

Spoiler

The house that Gacy owned and committed his atrocities in was demolished in 1979, four months after his arrest. The home that sits on that lot now wasn't built until 1986, and sat empty for two further years before anyone moved in. It has been resold a few times but remains a private residence. Again, no problem for our freaks and weirdos!

This one really has everything: multiple influencer poses, a personal connection to one of the most infamous criminals in history that makes her ~sooo different~, unironic use of the word "epic", and the self-awareness to know that she's being weird coupled with the pure egotism to write all this shit and post it anyway. Incredible. There were four other photos of her in different poses in front of this house (that isn't even the actual house).


"It was very chilling to be here knowing 32 bodies were buried on this property even though I'm smiling like an autistic kid at Disneyland! Very surreal!"


I just wanted to include this one because "groosome" lmao


Seeing the piece of land where a child rapist and murderer raped and murdered children was the best part of her trip, and she's DONE trying to convince people that it's not weird. OK buddy.

Lastly, let's jet across to Boulder, CO, where the former home of JonBenét Ramsey sits obscured behind foliage and a tall brick-and-iron fence.

Spoiler

JonBenét was only six years old when she was found murdered in the basement in 1996. Her family moved out of the house in 1997, and it was sold to another family in 2004 who still lives there today. Of course, people still feel entitled to take pics in front of it and crack jokes at the expense of a dead child.

(Unrelated but this person looks like she's wearing a mask of her own face. Horrifying.)


This one, posted on Christmas, is captioned "Merry last day of JonBenét" which is an oddly cheerful way to commemorate the death anniversary of a child you never met.


The "My Favorite Murder" podcast shirt really makes this one.

This last one I stumbled on isn't related to her house but I think it's funny anyway just because of how purely batshit it is. I know that JonBenét would have written a book about her family as an adult because she's a Gemini rising, as observable by her high forehead. Just normal stuff.



Every kid has a big-ass head at that age. You are insane.

I really went down a little rabbithole here lol, people are truly shameless. I've seen the Auschwitz selfie thing before so I shouldn't be surprised by this but idk, these places aren't even historical sites it's literally someone's house.

 

[TrulyMan]

I got inspired by @TrulyMan and took a field trip through Instagram's location tags... lo and behold, true crime tourists ogling at private residences and taking excited photos in front of the former homes & properties of famous murderers and murder victims!

First we have the former childhood home of Jeffrey Dahmer in Akron Ohio.

Spoiler

This home is privately owned but that doesn't stop people from tromping all around, bothering the neighbors, and collecting dirt and rocks.
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Here OP recounts her experience as being incredibly positive. The homeowners said it's fine as long as you don't come on the property or bother them! Surely that's out of the goodness of their hearts, and not the legal limits of their property ownership rights. It's just a coincidence that there's no house numbers visible from the street. Also, totally go check out the high school that Dahmer attended like 40 years ago! Just make sure you go after hours or people might think you're some kind of creep or something!
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Next, let's travel to suburban Chicago, where we find the plot of land that formerly held John Wayne Gacy's home!

Spoiler

The house that Gacy owned and committed his atrocities in was demolished in 1979, four months after his arrest. The home that sits on that lot now wasn't built until 1986, and sat empty for two further years before anyone moved in. It has been resold a few times but remains a private residence. Again, no problem for our freaks and weirdos!
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This one really has everything: multiple influencer poses, a personal connection to one of the most infamous criminals in history that makes her ~sooo different~, unironic use of the word "epic", and the self-awareness to know that she's being weird coupled with the pure egotism to write all this shit and post it anyway. Incredible. There were four other photos of her in different poses in front of this house (that isn't even the actual house).

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"It was very chilling to be here knowing 32 bodies were buried on this property even though I'm smiling like an autistic kid at Disneyland! Very surreal!"

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I just wanted to include this one because "groosome" lmao

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Seeing the piece of land where a child rapist and murderer raped and murdered children was the best part of her trip, and she's DONE trying to convince people that it's not weird. OK buddy.

Lastly, let's jet across to Boulder, CO, where the former home of JonBenét Ramsey sits obscured behind foliage and a tall brick-and-iron fence.

Spoiler

JonBenét was only six years old when she was found murdered in the basement in 1996. Her family moved out of the house in 1997, and it was sold to another family in 2004 who still lives there today. Of course, people still feel entitled to take pics in front of it and crack jokes at the expense of a dead child.
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(Unrelated but this person looks like she's wearing a mask of her own face. Horrifying.)

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This one, posted on Christmas, is captioned "Merry last day of JonBenét" which is an oddly cheerful way to commemorate the death anniversary of a child you never met.

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The "My Favorite Murder" podcast shirt really makes this one.

This last one I stumbled on isn't related to her house but I think it's funny anyway just because of how purely batshit it is. I know that JonBenét would have written a book about her family as an adult because she's a Gemini rising, as observable by her high forehead. Just normal stuff.

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Every kid has a big-ass head at that age. You are insane.

I really went down a little rabbithole here lol, people are truly shameless. I've seen the Auschwitz selfie thing before so I shouldn't be surprised by this but idk, these places aren't even historical sites it's literally someone's house.

Fuck me sideways and call me sally.
What a great and horrifying post, where's the ability to rate more stickers when you truly need it?
This post illustrates why even 50 years after something like this has happened, buying a house affiliated with it is a bad idea.
At best you might get some creepy feelings and nightmares, at worst you'll have an endless stream of insane morons taking selfies outside your property reminding you and tanking the property value.

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

I got inspired by @TrulyMan and took a field trip through Instagram's location tags... lo and behold, true crime tourists ogling at private residences and taking excited photos in front of the former homes & properties of famous murderers and murder victims!

First we have the former childhood home of Jeffrey Dahmer in Akron Ohio.

Spoiler

This home is privately owned but that doesn't stop people from tromping all around, bothering the neighbors, and collecting dirt and rocks.
View attachment 4220212 View attachment 4220219

Here OP recounts her experience as being incredibly positive. The homeowners said it's fine as long as you don't come on the property or bother them! Surely that's out of the goodness of their hearts, and not the legal limits of their property ownership rights. It's just a coincidence that there's no house numbers visible from the street. Also, totally go check out the high school that Dahmer attended like 40 years ago! Just make sure you go after hours or people might think you're some kind of creep or something!
View attachment 4220242

Next, let's travel to suburban Chicago, where we find the plot of land that formerly held John Wayne Gacy's home!

Spoiler

The house that Gacy owned and committed his atrocities in was demolished in 1979, four months after his arrest. The home that sits on that lot now wasn't built until 1986, and sat empty for two further years before anyone moved in. It has been resold a few times but remains a private residence. Again, no problem for our freaks and weirdos!
View attachment 4220322View attachment 4220335
This one really has everything: multiple influencer poses, a personal connection to one of the most infamous criminals in history that makes her ~sooo different~, unironic use of the word "epic", and the self-awareness to know that she's being weird coupled with the pure egotism to write all this shit and post it anyway. Incredible. There were four other photos of her in different poses in front of this house (that isn't even the actual house).

View attachment 4220336
"It was very chilling to be here knowing 32 bodies were buried on this property even though I'm smiling like an autistic kid at Disneyland! Very surreal!"

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I just wanted to include this one because "groosome" lmao

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Seeing the piece of land where a child rapist and murderer raped and murdered children was the best part of her trip, and she's DONE trying to convince people that it's not weird. OK buddy.

Lastly, let's jet across to Boulder, CO, where the former home of JonBenét Ramsey sits obscured behind foliage and a tall brick-and-iron fence.

Spoiler

JonBenét was only six years old when she was found murdered in the basement in 1996. Her family moved out of the house in 1997, and it was sold to another family in 2004 who still lives there today. Of course, people still feel entitled to take pics in front of it and crack jokes at the expense of a dead child.
View attachment 4220344
(Unrelated but this person looks like she's wearing a mask of her own face. Horrifying.)

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This one, posted on Christmas, is captioned "Merry last day of JonBenét" which is an oddly cheerful way to commemorate the death anniversary of a child you never met.

View attachment 4220351
The "My Favorite Murder" podcast shirt really makes this one.

This last one I stumbled on isn't related to her house but I think it's funny anyway just because of how purely batshit it is. I know that JonBenét would have written a book about her family as an adult because she's a Gemini rising, as observable by her high forehead. Just normal stuff.

View attachment 4220350

Every kid has a big-ass head at that age. You are insane.

I really went down a little rabbithole here lol, people are truly shameless. I've seen the Auschwitz selfie thing before so I shouldn't be surprised by this but idk, these places aren't even historical sites it's literally someone's house.

Oh my fucking god that’s gross

 

[Chongqing]

I’ve come to two possible conclusions as to why the “internet crowd solving a case” idea has became so popular over the past few years.

1. Michelle McNamara’s “I’ll Be Gone In The Dark” book about the EAR/ONS killer gained a lot of traction in the true crime community when it came out. The basic white woman podcasts still mention it often. I think that it spurned the idea on to their listeners that they could do the same thing, and try to find out the identity of a serial killer from 50-60 years ago.

This ignoring the fact that McNamara had more money, more resources, and didn’t actually solve anything. It wasn’t until years after she passed away and Patton Oswalt pushing her to be a martyr and trying to get his 15 minutes of fame from his wife’s death on the true crime circuit, that the EAR/ONS killer’s identity was discovered, and he was arrested. And that was by actual detectives digging out some DNA through his trash.

2. The same basic white woman true crime podcasts usually heavily criticize the actual police investigating things, because they’re also trying to not be cancelled by the Twitter crowds. They genuinely start to believe that they can best any of the “evil” police who are investigating.

I’m certainly not saying that police haven’t dropped the ball, and continue to do so in the modern era sometimes. Especially in the past when it came to minority or homosexual victims. But I still don’t think that it warrants such a strong ACAB feel in some true crime spheres. And it doesn’t make the true crime wine mom a better detective.

With point 2, I think you're on the right track. While there's an element of that, you'll also notice that they're for huge government overreach. Like, "How was this jealous boyfriend who yelled at her at a work party not under 24/7 police surveillance?? He was obviously going to kill her a year later!"

They have no respect for due process of law, the Constitution, or really anything. This style of thinking is what led us to invade Iraq.