AI Art Seething General

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

If a computer taking your income is a real fear you have, you probably aren't a very good artist to start with.

I believe even good artists are correct to fear AI art, but I support their starvation.

 

[Duke-Diggler]

I don't know why artists would fear AI. It does look good from 5 miles away, but when someone with observation skills goes up close, they see how truly ugly it looks with deformed hands, twisted limbs and mutated feet. Not to mention they all literally look the same.

There is a reason why the posts they make barely get any attention. Never underestimate the power of stupid people fucking AI up.

In fact, the only reason why I hate AI art is because of the dumb faggots spamming the same shit over and over, making it a pretty obvious distinction between hand drawn and AI art.

So no, Artists, you don't need to protest. All the retards using it are actually doing a good job making AI art look like crap.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

I don't know why artists would fear AI.

You forget the "artists" who fear AI the most are the ones who draw shitty baby diaperfur pics in MS Paint and have furfag coomers pay them hundreds of dollars for it. Replacing these people with computers is not only not a bad thing, it's a necessity; computers don't crave money and don't feel horny, and as AI grows smarter, it will eventually learn to say no to these requests, ushering in a glorious new era of degeneracy-free art websites.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I don't know why artists would fear AI. It does look good from 5 miles away, but when someone with observation skills goes up close, they see how truly ugly it looks with deformed hands, twisted limbs and mutated feet. Not to mention they all literally look the same.

There is a reason why the posts they make barely get any attention. Never underestimate the power of stupid people fucking AI up.

In fact, the only reason why I hate AI art is because of the dumb faggots spamming the same shit over and over, making it a pretty obvious distinction between hand drawn and AI art.

So no, Artists, you don't need to protest. All the retards using it are actually doing a good job making AI art look like crap.

The problem is that most people making AI art are lazy, so it looks like it was all drawn by the same person. There's like maybe 2-3 "realistic" styles and then there's the generic Stable Diffusion anime style that looks like CGs from a generic visual novel. All of those can be good, but the fact they're posted everywhere has gotten me thoroughly exhausted with those styles.

 

[Monkey Pink]

The problem is that most people making AI art are lazy, so it looks like it was all drawn by the same person. There's like maybe 2-3 "realistic" styles and then there's the generic Stable Diffusion anime style that looks like CGs from a generic visual novel. All of those can be good, but the fact they're posted everywhere has gotten me thoroughly exhausted with those styles.

It's funny that one of the most interesting and unique art styles I've seen lately come from Stable Diffusion is from a shitpost:

Reddit - Dive into anything

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Basically, you need to WANT to make something other than video game concept art and generic animu art. Which given the sad state of "nerd culture" on the Internet, seems to be a rare thing among AI artists.

 

[Duke-Diggler]

You forget the "artists" who fear AI the most are the ones who draw shitty baby diaperfur pics in MS Paint and have furfag coomers pay them hundreds of dollars for it. Replacing these people with computers is not only not a bad thing, it's a necessity; computers don't crave money and don't feel horny, and as AI grows smarter, it will eventually learn to say no to these requests, ushering in a glorious new era of degeneracy-free art websites.

I don't think so, because not only most AI programs forbid porn, but even if they didn't, no AI would do anything dynamic or action-oriented without looking incredibly horrid and blob-like. Besides, most users who use this program are just cranking out pic after pic of the same style of AI like a sweatshop in china.

The problem is that most people making AI art are lazy, so it looks like it was all drawn by the same person. There's like maybe 2-3 "realistic" styles and then there's the generic Stable Diffusion anime style that looks like CGs from a generic visual novel. All of those can be good, but the fact they're posted everywhere has gotten me thoroughly exhausted with those styles.

And here is what I think would happen: More and more of these lazy people will crank out more samey AI pictures, the AI database will keep taking these AI generated pictures and process them until it becomes more and more horrid with each iteration. It would be incredibly easy to either reject the medium from websites since it will be incredibly obvious, or they would just ignore it, letting the community fester until all you really see from AI art is 2 to 3 styles.

I think what a lot of tech people fail to realize is how stupid and lazy people in general can be. When you make things easier, people would generally go for the easiest way possible, often messing things up in the long run. For me, AI art is not sustainable in its current form. It will be treated just like Sonic recolors or traced anime art. People will either ignore or actively reject it.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

no AI would do anything dynamic or action-oriented without looking incredibly horrid and blob-like.

So just like real furfag artists, then.

 

[AssignedEva]

It's funny that one of the most interesting and unique art styles I've seen lately come from Stable Diffusion is from a shitpost:
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Reddit - Dive into anything

reddit.com

Basically, you need to WANT to make something other than video game concept art and generic animu art. Which given the sad state of "nerd culture" on the Internet, seems to be a rare thing among AI artists.

Yeah I was saying this in the Reddit thread but a lot of the issue is either the taste of the creators or the fact they reuse prompts like "artstation trending", "8k", "highly detailed" "cgsociety" that they've seen gets "good" results.

If you go on one of those free stable diffusion websites and type something like "portrait of a crying woman" and then a bunch of random adjectives and less popular artistic movements, you get stuff like this



which are all pretty clearly derivative, not necessarily of a crying woman and run into the same issues around the AI not understanding human anatomy. But they are at least varied and kinda interesting to look at.

But most of the people posting about it want a pretty, largely realistic picture and so you end up with sameface McGee painted in a specific digital art style

or those weird fake impressionist paintings of Waifus with massive honkers dressed in Victorian clothes (or increasingly, fake production stills from imaginary 1980s dark fantasy movies).

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Yeah I was saying this in the Reddit thread but a lot of the issue is either the taste of the creators or the fact they reuse prompts like "artstation trending", "8k", "highly detailed" "cgsociety" that they've seen gets "good" results.

If you go on one of those free stable diffusion websites and type something like "portrait of a crying woman" and then a bunch of random adjectives and less popular artistic movements, you get stuff like this
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which are all pretty clearly derivative, not necessarily of a crying woman and run into the same issues around the AI not understanding human anatomy. But they are at least varied and kinda interesting to look at.

But most of the people posting about it want a pretty, largely realistic picture and so you end up with sameface McGee painted in a specific digital art style
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or those weird fake impressionist paintings of Waifus with massive honkers dressed in Victorian clothes (or increasingly, fake production stills from imaginary 1980s dark fantasy movies).

or you can be like me and generate barbecue pork oatmeal

 

[snootsnootsnoot]

LEL LEL LEL GOOD NEWS
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r/SubredditDrama - R/Art becomes private, trolls cited as reason

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https://archive.md/Uz5wX

AI-CHADS WIN AGAIN, BABY!

The sub is back to being public. Is it known what, if anything, came of this?

 

[Monkey Pink]

The sub is back to being public. Is it known what, if anything, came of this?

I don't think the admins intervened, I think Awkward Turtle just finally got over his tantrum.

Did George Crudo ever unprivate his Twitter or tweet anything crazy?

Or is he still on the downlow, afraid of the big bad ALT-RIGHT TERRORISTS at r/DefendingAIArt?

 

[Freezer Rat]

I wonder if the remaining artists will only have jobs of making offensive art since that won't be allowed on the next generation of AI. Imagine the community being forced to paint niggers getting suffocated, it will be a fantastic irony considering they inserted Niggers to everything before.

There is no such thing as 'not allowed', only 'We found a roadblock, time to go around it!' Once they work out all the little kinks AI art seems to have, digital artists will be out of work in a real hurry because it'll be faster and cheaper to just have some code monkey spam prompts for 10 minutes.

 

[grump]

I've been playing around with Stable Diffusion and its definitely not as easy as instantly printing off tons of masterpieces as people are implying. You can still rattle off whatever comes to mind if you wanted mutant refrigerator drawings. But if you want anything close to the showpieces you've seen plastered around, you have to do prompt engineering, inpainting and outpainting, checkpoint merging etc. Midjourney from what I've seen produces much more aesthetically pleasing results off the bat but thats due to taking a lot of control away. And of course its terrible at getting what you want if you have anything more specific in mind than very broad common subjects.

There's ironically still an 'art' to producing AI art. I wouldn't be surprised to see it become a profession or part of the artist's process rather than the fear of CEO clients and Mom and Pop home businesses who didn't want to bother becoming artists themselves becoming AI generator technicians.

 

[AN/ALR56]

This isn't any different than the whining about photography and the camera lucida in the early 1800s.

 

[Path Wanderer]

I understand artists disapproval of AI art on the grounds of being an enabler of fraud or perhaps “artistic cheating” but they could have been less gay about like they were with NFTs. And also you can’t look me in the face and tell me this isn’t awesome.

The only reasonable solution is designating every AI piece as being public domain, so no for profit “AI artists” but not “SHUT IT DOWN OYYYYY MY EYES” either

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Even if AI makes art, that's not stopping natural intelligence from making art. Like how people still play "solved" board games.

 

[jje100010001]

I understand artists disapproval of AI art on the grounds of being an enabler of fraud or perhaps “artistic cheating” but they could have been less gay about like they were with NFTs. And also you can’t look me in the face and tell me this isn’t awesome.
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The only reasonable solution is designating every AI piece as being public domain, so no for profit “AI artists” but not “SHUT IT DOWN OYYYYY MY EYES” either

There have been some various interesting 'Dark 80s Fantasy Movie' AI prompts on Youtube (of various degrees of success), this one is an interesting one as well:

I've been playing around with Stable Diffusion and its definitely not as easy as instantly printing off tons of masterpieces as people are implying. You can still rattle off whatever comes to mind if you wanted mutant refrigerator drawings. But if you want anything close to the showpieces you've seen plastered around, you have to do prompt engineering, inpainting and outpainting, checkpoint merging etc. Midjourney from what I've seen produces much more aesthetically pleasing results off the bat but thats due to taking a lot of control away. And of course its terrible at getting what you want if you have anything more specific in mind than very broad common subjects.

There's ironically still an 'art' to producing AI art. I wouldn't be surprised to see it become a profession or part of the artist's process rather than the fear of CEO clients and Mom and Pop home businesses who didn't want to bother becoming artists themselves becoming AI generator technicians.

I think that's part of what's missing in AI- at the moment it takes a human component to go back and fix or mask up areas to regenerate (i.e. hands).

AI Art straight out of the generator is like putting a half-cooked steak on someone's table but topped with lots of fancy things like gold leaf (aka details compensating for poor fundamentals in AI Art), but it's too easy to do so as compared to human art.

That being said, I could see this element of iterative refinement automated later on, with the AI generator after certain stages of generation reviewing the image generated so far for the overall larger patterns (fingers, teeth, stray bits), comparing it to its own database of 'correct' figures for discrepancies, and then regenerating those parts on its own.

 

[Monkey Pink]

r/DefendingAIArt is at about 6.5k subs now and still growing.

SEETHE

Also here's another meme stolen from r/LoveForAIArt:

 

[Anti pedo]

If a computer taking your income is a real fear you have, you probably aren't a very good artist to start with.

(warning potential sperging and power level)

EXACTLY!!!! and the reason most of this twatter artist feel they cannot compete with Ai generator its because they know they are incompetent and uncreative.
lets be honest here most of this artist does not do something different with their art ITS JUST CHARACTERS STANDING IN THE VOID!!!!
there is no variation they did not make comics of their characters so their fans ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THEIR CHARACTERS!!!
IF THEY WANT PEOPLE CARE FOR THEIR ART AT LEAST MAKE IT ENGAGING LIKE A WEBCOMIC OR A DND CHARACTERS FOR TABLETOP


AT LEAST AI GENERATOR GIVES A SHIT TO ADD BACKGROUNDS ON THE ART IT PRODUCE!!!

Not to mention how OVERPRICED their commisssion tend to be IM NOT PAYING 100 DOLLARS FOR A SKETCH

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Maybe I just haven't figured out the magic yet, but one thing I'm noticing so far with AI art is that it tends to to rather poorly with flat, 2D cartoon styles. Everything from Looney Toons to Disney to modern Calarts, it just doesn't seem to work very well.