AI Art Seething General

[Fluoxetine Man]

does captcha use AI generated images to train its systems? had very strange "boats" and traffic lights-

I'd start to worry when captcha asks how many fingers are in an AI image.

 

[mindlessobserver]

So question about this AI art thing. Are the programs data hogs? I am capped at 40 gigabytes per month but am interested in this stuff. Is the actual communication with the server small packets and the work done on my end? Or is the work done on their end and sent to my computer?

I'd start to worry when captcha asks how many fingers are in an AI image.

It's already asking how many Lights there are. That's scary enough.

 

[Bring Back 2012]

does captcha use AI generated images to train its systems? had very strange "boats" and traffic lights-

Some of them definitely do, they look AI as fuck. I think google still uses real images for their captcha though.

 

[Stoneheart]

Some of them definitely do, they look AI as fuck. I think google still uses real images for their captcha though.

ITs very hard to tell if something is from the 3rd world or Ai generated, but im very sure that some of the traffic lights are fake... i just had one with 8 bulbs for some tiny road.


but to be fair, i havent looked into that free image AI deeper. can i tain it on my own, to make my "Superman the buzzfeed journalist" fan fic into a comic that looks like a real one?

 

[Monkey Pink]

LEL LEL LEL GOOD NEWS

r/SubredditDrama - R/Art becomes private, trolls cited as reason

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https://archive.is/Uz5wX

AI-CHADS WIN AGAIN, BABY!

 

[Catgirls are Love]

So question about this AI art thing. Are the programs data hogs? I am capped at 40 gigabytes per month but am interested in this stuff. Is the actual communication with the server small packets and the work done on my end? Or is the work done on their end and sent to my computer?

Depends on whether you're using someone else's online service, running it on your own machine or setting up your own online service on a rented server for personal use. In the case of using someone else's service, no. The only bandwidth used is the requests and all the work is done on the server, which sends you the result as a PNG/JPEG. Generally, not too much of a data hog maybe comparable to browsing a thread with a few images that aren't thumbnails (also depends on how many images you end up generating).

Now, if you're setting it up yourself, initial setup will take a sizable chunk out of your data cap. Model files used in the art generation vary in size usually from 2-8 GB with additional VAE files being around 300-800 MB each, and that's not including the initial setup which will take a couple GB. But after that, no bandwidth required...unless you're setting it up on a rented server, which will have an even higher setup cost (downloading model files, then uploading them to server, etc) which you probably want to avoid.

So, if you use an online paid service, no, not too much of a data hog and all the work is done on their end. Set up your own service on your own computer, heavy initial data investment but then no cost whatsoever unless you download more models, and all of the work is done on your local machine. Probably should avoid the last option entirely given your data cap.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

It's already asking how many Lights there are. That's scary enough.

How many lights are in this image?
Answer: 4
Error: There are 5 lights

 

[Scavenger]

It's fantastic because the subreddit is barely a week old and has 1.6k subscribers, and they're FREAKING out over it already.

1.6k isnt even enough and yet they still sperg out lmao.

 

[Markass the Worst]

It's fantastic because the subreddit is barely a week old and has 1.6k subscribers, and they're FREAKING out over it already.

1.6k isnt even enough and yet they still sperg out lmao.

This very site has something like 6.7k users and we're branded as a den of fascist thugs who swat and doxxxx innocent victims who dindu nuffin.

 

[Monkey Pink]

This very site has something like 6.7k users and we're branded as a den of fascist thugs who swat and doxxxx innocent victims who dindu nuffin.

Well apparently, thanks to soyboy Crudo's tweet, they're at about 3.5k subs now... including me, because I love this drama.



(Also tagging @chiobu: I heard you might have some good content for this thread, friend.)

 

[Sergeant Major Buzzkill]

I feel like they do it for clout more then they love doing what they do.

Those are my thoughts on it exactly. They're mad that there's an easier way to replicate the generic shit that they draw because it'll hurt their pockets (not that they're getting much from commissions anyway but I digress).

 

[Monkey Pink]

George Crudo himself shows up in the above Reddit post less than ten minutes after the OP posted it, whines about being posted, reports the post for "targeted harassment" not realizing the mods have the ability to ignore reports, and self-jannies his Twitter account out of frustration:

r/DefendingAIArt - George Crudo of McFarlane Toys tweeted some propaganda and disinfo against our subreddit, but it got us about 2k new subscribers overnight - so thanks, George!

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This is so good lmao

 

[Super Guido]

Well apparently, thanks to soyboy Crudo's tweet, they're at about 3.5k subs now... including me, because I love this drama.

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(Also tagging @chiobu: I heard you might have some good content for this thread, friend.)

"Haha joke's on you we have x amount of subs now" doesn't mean much when most people are probably there to watch shit hit the fan.

This is exactly like that one r/minecraft mod getting mad that the dude with the dead gf was karma farming her corpse. This r/art janny is mad that the person makes human made art and when told it is human made art his response is "well your art looks too much like an ai, change it or your ban won't be lifted." Literally getting mad that a bear shits in the woods

Surprising absolutely no one, mods are also banning anyone who got commissions from Moran and are confirming he's telling the truth.

https://twitter.com/benmoran_artist/status/1608516647052251137

ben moran artist on Twitter: "@mujujuju13 @scifidude_art I don't know…

archived 5 Jan 2023 18:01:08 UTC

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[Monkey Pink]

Shamelessly stolen from r/LoveForAIArt:

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I wonder if the remaining artists will only have jobs of making offensive art since that won't be allowed on the next generation of AI. Imagine the community being forced to paint niggers getting suffocated, it will be a fantastic irony considering they inserted Niggers to everything before.

 

[Stewie Seagull]

Man, they are really pushing art to be an elitist shit once again holy ass, idiots that can't guarantee themselves are being the main menace for human art, not the photobashing robots

 

[Monkey Pink]

"Haha joke's on you we have x amount of subs now" doesn't mean much when most people are probably there to watch shit hit the fan.

For what it's worth, I see no brigading... or the mods must be doing a great job of removing anyone who is. At 4.2k subs and counting.

Lol, this makes me think of the beginning of GamerGate in a roundabout way.

 

[GoPro]

I'm not denying that AI art can't look fantastic with the right data set and lots of effort. I am denying that there's any concern for them replacing artists outside of the corporate sphere, as I said in my prior comment. These AI need actual art to steal from to try to trick humans, and nothing made by an algorithm will ever be anything other than a soulless mimicry to begin with, regardless of whether it can trick humans into thinking it is real (because it stole from actual human's works). Machines replaced humans with things like textiles and cars because the "soul" goes into the design of the item, and its involvement in the manufacturing is of little to no value, as they are mean to be used for a purpose. Art is not a car, or a shirt, its only purpose is visual satisfaction and emotional resonance, which will never exist from a program. Few care about the heart put into the sweater they're wearing unless it was a gift from grandma, but finding out a picture was just cobbled together by a program will make it less valuable to people.

I will admit the potential lawsuits will be amusing to see, as I highly doubt these programs making copyrighted material will survive Disney sending its army of lawyers and lobbyists to destroy the competition and bribe Congress to alter the laws. I'd also love to see the monstrocities they had to sift through before they got "art" that would sufficiently trick people.

I really hope you are right. I can't help but have little hope for an average person to care, especially if the AI generated art is less expensive and takes less time to make.

PS. It actually requires a decent amount of coding in the prompt for the picture to show up as your desired result.

Or you can ask ChatGPT to generate prompts and get pretty good results faster than relying on trial and error.

 

[Yandex Captcha Solver]

I wonder if the remaining artists will only have jobs of making offensive art since that won't be allowed on the next generation of AI. Imagine the community being forced to paint niggers getting suffocated, it will be a fantastic irony considering they inserted Niggers to everything before.

Honestly surprised we haven't got a /pol/ diffusion yet. We got anime diffusion in 90 different models. Would elevate shitposting to all time highs.

 

[Gondolindrim]

If a computer taking your income is a real fear you have, you probably aren't a very good artist to start with.