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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Intense fighting in eastern Ukraine showed the benefits — and limitations — of HIMARS, experts say​

Michael Peck
Jan 11, 2023, 6:17 PM

HIMARS in Latvia

A HIMARS in Skede, Latvia during a military exercise in September 2022. GINTS IVUSKANS/AFP via Getty Images
  • US-provided HIMARS rocket artillery aided Ukraine's rapid advance around Kharkiv in September.
  • HIMARS destroyed Russian positions and depots, allowing Ukraine to retake a huge swath of territory.
  • But Russian forces adapted and were able to limit HIMARS' effectiveness in fighting around Kherson.
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If there is one weapon that symbolizes the Western arms that have helped Ukraine fight off Russia's invasion, it's the US-made M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System multiple rocket launcher, or HIMARS.
The success of Ukraine's recent counteroffensives has been partly attributed to HIMARS, of which the US has sent at least 20 to Ukraine.
But was HIMARS was really that effective? It was initially devastating, but Russian forces eventually learned how to cope with it, according to two US defense experts.
When HIMARS made its debut in Ukraine during the summer, it was hailed as a wonder weapon. GPS-guided rockets fired from the truck-mounted mobile launcher destroyed Russian headquarters and especially ammunition dumps, which helped curtail Russian artillery fire.
A still from footage shared by the Ukrainian Defense Ministry shows a soldier, whose face is obscured, raise his hands in a v for victory as a US-donated HIMARS system launches rockets in the background.

An image from footage released by Ukraine's Defense Ministry thanking the US for providing HIMARS. Ukraine Ministry of Defense
HIMARS paved the way for a stunningly successful Ukrainian counteroffensive in the Kharkiv region that began in early September and turned the balance of the war against Russia. It became evident that HIMARS was also harming Russian morale when Russian media ran dubious stories claiming the rockets had secret capabilities, such as changing their trajectory.
But when Ukraine used HIMARS in its counteroffensive against the city of Kherson on the Black Sea in southern Ukraine in late August, the outcome was different.
"It took Ukraine more than two months to retake the entire right bank of Kherson after beginning its offensive," Michael Kofman, director of the Russia Studies Program at CNA, and Rob Lee, a senior fellow in the Foreign Policy Research Institute's Eurasia Program, wrote in late December.
"Kherson reveals that the overall effect of HIMARS may be overstated, and its impact leveled off after the first two months of use on the battlefield," Kofman and Lee wrote.
Russian forces were able to sustain artillery fire and ultimately withdraw from Kherson with most of their equipment despite the threat from Ukraine's precision weapons, like HIMARS and specially designed artillery shells.
The adaptations Russia made in response to HIMARS "included displacing logistics hubs out of range, hardening command posts, and introducing decoys to make targeting more difficult," Kofman and Lee wrote.
destroyed Dnieper River bridge near Kherson Ukraine

A collapsed bridge across the Dnieper River near Kherson on January 5. Ximena Borrazas/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images
Tactically, Russian forces at Kherson were in a difficult position: They held a bridgehead on the western bank of the Dnipro River, with only a few vulnerable ferries and a traversable dam to transport supplies and reinforcements from the main Russian positions on the east bank.
Despite Ukraine's employment of an impressive array of capabilities — from HIMARS and tanks to drones and special-operations forces — its offensive still ran into stiff opposition.
"The fighting was grinding, with high rates of attrition on both sides," according to Kofman and Lee. "Kherson offers a cautionary tale on the challenge of offensive maneuver against an entrenched opponent with sufficient artillery and air defense."
All of which raises a question: Was HIMARS so good or was Russia so bad? For example, the Russian army relies on a highly centralized logistic network that depends on a few railroad lines rather than on a more flexible truck transport to get supplies to the troops.
At the same time, Russia doctrine calls for massive artillery barrages. This led to huge ammunition dumps being positioned close to the front for convenience. It also meant that those huge stocks of artillery shells were within range of HIMARS rockets that — guided by GPS coordinates supplied by drones or satellites — could hit pinpoint targets 50 miles away.
"The requirements of high volume of fire were incompatible with adaptation to long-range precision strike," Kofman told Insider.
A Ukrainian solider shows the rockets on a HIMARS vehicle between some trees

A Ukrainian unit commander shows off a HIMARS vehicle in Eastern Ukraine in July 2022. Anastasia Vlasova for The Washington Post via Getty Images
Russia failed to take precautions and was slow to adapt to long-range Western rockets and artillery supplied to Ukraine. Nonetheless, Russia eventually did adapt.
This raises another question: If much of HIMARS' success was due to Russian mistakes, how effective will these rockets against other adversaries in other potential conflicts, such as a Chinese invading of Taiwan?
For example, Ukrainian gunners enjoyed targeting data from US satellites that Russia couldn't attack for fear of escalating the war. Ukraine had access to US intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance "that played an important role, but due to political parameters was untouchable by Russia," Kofman said. "This is why you can't port findings easily into a war with direct US involvement."
Any military capability is most effective when introduced in sufficient quantity on the battlefield, but eventually the enemy adapts, Kofman said. "There are no silver bullets."
Michael Peck is a defense writer whose work has appeared in Forbes, Defense News, Foreign Policy magazine, and other publications. He holds a master's in political science. Follow him on Twitter and LinkedIn.
Author makes some interesting points, even if I don't necessarily agree with all.
For one, "just moved their ammo depots out of range :smug:" misses the disadvantages forced upon the Russians by having to move their ammo depots back >60-70km away from frontline positions.
On the flip side, he seems to be explaining to normies that HIMARS (and by proxy M270B & LRU) isn't a silver bullet wunderwaffen and it has its limitations.
Edit: in regards to the Soledar salt-mine; it may be flooded or inaccessible in large parts, as I've seen rumors of Ukrainan sappers collapsing tunnels and/or sabotaging air/water pumps prior to leaving the area.

My guess is they hadn't intended on turning it into Mariupol 2.0, because trying to hold out in those mines would've been a quick death-sentence rather than heroic stand, and Ukraine commands knew it would be easy to get drowned & suffocated in those tunnels.
Even if they didn't get drowned, suffocated, smoked out or thermobaric'd (the later being a real possibility with Russian TOS-1 launchers rolling around); if the above ground extend of the mines got encircled then they would still be either 1) suicide stay-behind force fighting on borrowed time, or 2) ultimately waiting upon and dependent on a Ukrainian counter-offensive to relieve them which may not come for months - especially with the UA eyes set on the juicer targets of Kreminna/Svatove or the borderline check-mate that is Melitopol.

It would be strange for Soledar to fall anytime soon. Similar to Mariupol, there is a tunnel network deep underneath the city that they are using for military purposes.

Granted, length is no guarantee of defensibility, but the amount of tunnel there is insane. Wikipedia lists the length at 201km, while a recent RT article puts it at >300km.
Early in the war, Mariupol was different because the whole Ukrainian strategy in the east was basically "buy time and don't lose too much men & ground".

Right now Soledar is important to Ukraine because 1) its 1 of 3 positions needed by the Russians to take Bakhmut (2 of 3 if we consider that Opitnye has already fallen to RUA/Wagner), which is kind of important because Bakhmut is 1 of 3 positions needed to take Kramatorsk; 2) because its *currently/recently was* defensible, and defensible ground makes for a better line of defense; and 3) because Russian internal machine needs a material victory to justify their casualties & war expenditures in favor of continued offensive campaigns*

But Ukraine's strategy has changed in that its now about building & deploying forces for another Kharkiv-style counter offensive against a more strategic target; so letting several thousand men get killed or captured in another Mariupol/Azovstal-style le epic last stand isn't worth it at this stage in the game so they would likely abandon Soledar before serious detriment to their fighting force.

*note: I'm not predicting that a hypothetical Russian failure to capture Soledar results in them packing up and going home. No, not at all. If that were the case Ukraine would be throwing more into the defense of this front.
Rather, just that Russian aims right now likely include a propaganda trophy city to tout as proof of an ongoing victorious campaign.
 
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Russia has activated a naval assault ship (troop ship) and three (upgraded) Kilo class submarines.

(I'd quote the article but that's pretty much all there is)

The landing ship Pyotr Morgunov is a new ship, commissioned in 2018. It carry 13 tanks, or 300 marines and 36 APCs/IFVs (aka a mechanized brigade company). The Kilo class are diesel/electric anti-shipping subs.

Pyotr Morgunov seems not have anything overly note worthy about it. Its the largest landing ship Russia has in the black sea, but can only carry a mechanized or armor brigade company. It is the only landing ship Russia has in the black sea capable of helicopter operations; there are other ships with similar but slightly smaller capacity but they don't have helicopter facilities; but it only has one deck and two helicopters, which isn't massive or game-changing.

When released, the Kilo class was spooky quiet; instead of working on reactors or advanced sensors, the Russians opted for acoustic paneling that made the subs almost invisible to even active SONAR. Range was limited but the whole purpose was to counter US SSBNs and any possibility of naval landings in siberia.
Now the Kilo has lost most of its edge. The paneling is defeated by modern sonars, the lack of range really hampers operations


The Kilo has no missile capacity*, and Ukraine has practically no navy. Submarines are very bad at interdicting shipping except by destruction, and I don't think Putin is ready to take this to "civilian grain ships on the bottom" levels yet, but who the fuck knows. Its clown world.

*It has no missile tubes but has the ability to launch torpedoes that are launchers for anti-ship/anti-sub missles.

So I think one of these/some combination of these

> Gay op. An armor brigade company is not small force, but its not going to last long or do much without support. But having this ship out at sea means Ukraine needs to keep an eye on it. Russia has 9 ships in the black sea (4 stations and 5 transferred from other fleets right before the festivities began) with brigade-level capacity, and if all are engaged that is significant force capacity.

> Its just a drill. Russia may be testing naval readiness, or they may be performing anti-drone drills. They may also be testing the feasibility of supplying/reinforcing Crimea via Sea if they lose their land supply and the bridge over the straights gets cut.

> 5th column; Subs could carry special forces and explosives/weapons that could be inserted along the coast.

> Anti-Drone; there was video of supposed naval drones attack on the russian landing ships, and some explosions in Svastopol also from naval drones, so the subs might be going out to watch for other naval drones.

My personal guess is drills/readiness operations for Pyotr (supply crimea or prepare for landings), and the subs providing security so there isn't another engine fire.

Yeah but you need skilled crews and command for that. something ukraine does not have...

Would imagine that the Yook crews are pretty skilled at this point.
 
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Russia has activated a naval assault ship (troop ship) and three (upgraded) Kilo class submarines.

(I'd quote the article but that's pretty much all there is)

The landing ship Pyotr Morgunov is a new ship, commissioned in 2018. It carry 13 tanks, or 300 marines and 36 APCs/IFVs (aka a mechanized brigade). The Kilo class are diesel/electric anti-shipping subs.

Pyotr Morgunov seems not have anything overly note worthy about it. Its the largest landing ship Russia has in the black sea, but can only carry a mechanized or armor brigade. It is the only landing ship Russia has in the black sea capable of helicopter operations; there are other ships with similar but slightly smaller capacity but they don't have helicopter facilities; but it only has one deck and two helicopters, which isn't massive or game-changing.

When released, the Kilo class was spooky quiet; instead of working on reactors or advanced sensors, the Russians opted for acoustic paneling that made the subs almost invisible to even active SONAR. Range was limited but the whole purpose was to counter US SSBNs and any possibility of naval landings in siberia.
Now the Kilo has lost most of its edge. The paneling is defeated by modern sonars, the lack of range really hampers operations


The Kilo has no missile capacity*, and Ukraine has practically no navy. Submarines are very bad at interdicting shipping except by destruction, and I don't think Putin is ready to take this to "civilian grain ships on the bottom" levels yet, but who the fuck knows. Its clown world.

*It has no missile tubes but has the ability to launch torpedoes that are launchers for anti-ship/anti-sub missles.

So I think one of these/some combination of these

> Gay op. An armor brigade is not small force, but its not going to last long or do much without support. But having this ship out at sea means Ukraine needs to keep an eye on it. Russia has 9 ships in the black sea (4 stations and 5 transferred from other fleets right before the festivities began) with brigade-level capacity, and if all are engaged that is significant force capacity.

> Its just a drill. Russia may be testing naval readiness, or they may be performing anti-drone drills. They may also be testing the feasibility of supplying/reinforcing Crimea via Sea if they lose their land supply and the bridge over the straights gets cut.

> 5th column; Subs could carry special forces and explosives/weapons that could be inserted along the coast.

> Anti-Drone; there was video of supposed naval drones attack on the russian landing ships, and some explosions in Svastopol also from naval drones, so the subs might be going out to watch for other naval drones.

My personal guess is drills/readiness operations for Pyotr (supply crimea or prepare for landings), and the subs providing security so there isn't another engine fire.



Would imagine that the Yook crews are pretty skilled at this point.
Nah Russia just found out that they have no ammo dumps in the sea and need to add a few there.
 
I don't think introduction of Valery Gerasimov is going to have any positive effect for Russia in this. Even if he's responsible for the gay-ass doctrine that Russia used to harass Ukraine since 2014, I don't see how it could be useful in the open war that we see now.

At this point Putin with his staff is like this dude with dildoes:

Try opening your eyes and reading or watching the trove of artilces and footage out there. That fact that the Ukr Military has yet to lose a M270 or HIMARS alone leads me to beleive their leadership is doing the best possible job with the resources on hand.


We would only he so blessed to see the Russians attempt an amphibious landing with the resources they have remaining. I'm just as doubtful that they are that retarded. Though I would be pleased to see if there are still enough retarded Russian decision makers hyped up on their own prewar hubris that they try.

Also looks like a T-90S was captured intact. Meaning at least one of every Russian MBT type deployed has been captured during this war and a 3rd example of the Indian exports was lost to enemy action.

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Russia Claims Success in Ukraine’s Soledar as Moscow Names New War Commander​


Ukraine denies the town near Bakhmut has fallen​


Russia claimed its first significant success in Ukraine since July, seizing most of the eastern town of Soledar after weeks of heavy fighting led by the Wagner Group paramilitary organization, as the country’s top military officer took direct command of the campaign.

Gen. Valery Gerasimov’s appointment as commander of Russia’s war effort in Ukraine sidelines Gen. Sergei Surovikin, who was named to lead Russian forces there three months ago.

The reshuffle comes amid an increasingly public conflict between Wagner’s owner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, and the Russian military establishment. Mr. Prigozhin, a former chef and a confidant of Russian President Vladimir Putin, has criticized Gen. Gerasimov for the lackluster performance of regular Russian troops and praised Gen. Surovikin.

On Wednesday, Mr. Prigozhin said that, while the entire territory of the town is under Wagner fighters’ control, street battles with the encircled remainder of Ukrainian forces are continuing in the downtown area.

Ukrainian officials acknowledged Wagner’s recent advances in Soledar, a resort town of salt mines with a prewar population of 10,000 people, but denied that it had fallen.

“Soledar is not under the control of the Russian Federation, our troops are not encircled, they continue combat, and we retain the ability to supply them with weapons and provisions,” Col. Serhiy Cherevatyi of the Ukrainian military’s Eastern Command said Wednesday. He declined to comment on how much of Soledar remains in Ukrainian hands.

“At this point, we can’t corroborate that reporting” that Soledar has fallen to the Russians, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Wednesday during a press conference in Washington with his Japanese counterpart. “The Ukrainians have acquitted themselves in a very impressive fashion as they continue to fight a very determined fight,” Mr. Austin said.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Wednesday to wait for official statements on the situation in Soledar.

“Let’s not rush,” Mr. Peskov said. “There is a positive momentum of advancement there, but military success will be achieved when we meet the goals set by the commander-in-chief,” he said, referring to Mr. Putin.

Russian advances in Soledar imperil Ukraine’s ability to defend the nearby city of Bakhmut, which Wagner’s troops have been storming for the past six months. A much bigger city and a gateway to the Ukrainian controlled half of the Donetsk region claimed by Russia, Bakhmut has become a symbol of Ukrainian resistance in the war and the conflict’s main battlefield in recent weeks.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited front-line troops in Bakhmut just before flying to the U.S. last month, presenting a flag signed by soldiers to Congress.

Wagner, which has grown to a force of some 50,000 men after recruiting inmates throughout Russia’s prison system, seeks to portray itself as the only Russian unit capable of offensive operations. Mr. Prigozhin said in his message on Soledar that no regular Russian troops were involved in battles there.

The Russian Defense Ministry disputed that. Russian VDV airborne troops were blocking Soledar from the north and the south, the Russian air force was striking Ukrainian positions in the area and other Russian units were fighting inside the town, it said.


Mr. Prigozhin and another warlord with a de facto private army, Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, have repeatedly attacked the leadership of the Russian military as incompetent after Moscow lost large parts of the Kharkiv, Donetsk and Kherson regions to Ukrainian offensives in September, October and November. The last time Russia made gains in the war was the seizure of the cities of Severodonetsk and Lysychansk, an operation where Wagner played a major role, in late June and early July.


As the power struggle between Mr. Prigozhin and the Russian defense establishment burst into the open, Mr. Putin has so far stood by his defense minister, Sergei Shoigu, and Gen. Gerasimov, the defense general staff chief. On Tuesday, Russia’s Defense Ministry promoted Col. Gen. Alexander Lapin, whom Messrs. Prigozhin and Kadyrov demanded to be punished for Russian defeats in Kharkiv, to become chief of staff of Russian land forces.

On Wednesday, Mr. Shoigu tapped Gen. Gerasimov to take direct control of the war. “The increase in the level of leadership of the special military operation is caused by the expansion of the scale of objectives in its course, and by the need to organize closer coordination among the types and branches of the Armed Forces,” the Defense Ministry said.

Gen. Surovikin, the head of the Russian air force, will now be one of Gen. Gerasimov’s three deputies for the war in Ukraine, alongside the commander of land forces, Gen. Oleg Salyukov, and the deputy chief of general staff, Col.-Gen. Aleksey Kim. The most significant moment in Gen. Surovikin’s tenure as the commander in Ukraine was the November televised request to Mr. Shoigu to withdraw Russian forces from the city of Kherson and the remainder of the right bank of the Dnipro River.

Wagner has transformed itself over the past 11 months from a relatively small elite force that sent mercenaries to Syria and Africa to a multitiered corps-size formation. Highly skilled veterans still command Wagner units and provide artillery and air support. The storming of Ukrainian positions is usually carried out by convicts, who are executed for desertion or cowardice but have been promised a pardon and a possibility to return home should they survive six months in Ukraine. Mr. Prigozhin this month released the first batch of a few dozen such survivors, many of them missing limbs.

“The enemy pays no attention to huge losses of its personnel and continues the active assault. The approaches to our positions are simply littered with the bodies of the adversary’s dead soldiers,” said Ukraine’s deputy defense minister, Hanna Malyar.

Ukraine, however, is also taking high casualties on the Bakhmut-Soledar front, quickly depleting the strength of several brigades sent there as reinforcements in the past month.

In May and June, Ukraine made a similar stand in nearby Severodonetsk and Lysychansk, grinding down Russian forces in heavy street battles before eventually retreating to escape encirclement. That neutralized, for a while, Russia’s offensive abilities.

At the time, however, Russia was mostly waging the war with professional contract troops, and suffered from severe manpower shortages. Mr. Putin’s October mobilization of 300,000 reservists, coupled with Wagner’s prison recruitment drive that started in earnest in August, have changed the arithmetic of attrition in Russia’s favor. Mr. Prigozhin has said that his goal in the Bakhmut area isn’t so much to seize the city itself as to destroy Ukraine’s most combat-capable forces.

Western—and some Ukrainian—officials, soldiers and analysts increasingly worry that Kyiv has allowed itself to be sucked into the battle for Bakhmut on Russian terms, losing the forces it needs for a planned spring offensive as it stubbornly clings to a town of limited strategic relevance. Some of them say that it would make sense to retreat to a new defensive line on the heights west of Bakhmut while such a pullback can still be organized in a coordinated fashion, preserving the Ukrainian military’s combat strength.

“It’s not me, it’s King Leonidas who figured out that you should fight the enemy on the terrain that is advantageous to you,” said one Ukrainian commander in Bakhmut, referring to the ruler of Sparta who battled the Persian Empire at Thermopylae. “So far, the exchange rate of trading our lives for theirs favors the Russians. If this goes on like this, we could run out.”

Separately, Ukraine and Russia’s top human-rights officers held talks in the Turkish capital on Wednesday to discuss future prisoner exchanges, in a rare face-to-face meeting between officials from the two countries. Ukraine’s Human Rights Ombudsman Dmytro Lubinets was pictured sitting across a large table from Russia’s Tatyana Moskalkova.

Ms. Moskalkova, quoted by Russian state newswire TASS, said that both sides agreed on the exchange of 40 prisoners each, without providing more details.

Mr. Lubinets said the two discussed “a wide range of humanitarian problems and cases” and “exchanged specific offers.”

Poland’s President Andrzej Duda met Wednesday with Mr. Zelensky and Lithuania’s leader Gitanas Nauseda in Lviv, in western Ukraine, as part of the Lublin Triangle summit, a regional alliance created by the three countries.

Mr. Duda said Poland would give Ukraine 14 Leopard main battle tanks, provided that other allies agree to donate Western-made tanks of their own. Germany’s permission would be required to export the German-made Leopard tanks, which are some of the world’s heaviest combat vehicles, and seen as well-suited for retaking most territory.

“We would like this to be an international coalition and we have decided to include a package of the Leopard tank company in it, which hopefully along with other tank companies will soon be sent to Ukraine,” said Mr. Duda.

Ukraine has said it needs around an additional 300 main battle tanks to clear Russian troops from the roughly one fifth of the country they still occupy. So far, no country or collection of governments has come close to pledging that amount of Western-made tanks, though offers of tanks from Poland, the U.K. and elsewhere could open the doors to larger commitments. The U.S. and the Netherlands in November said they would pay to refurbish and modernize some 90 Soviet-designed T72 tanks owned by the Czech Republic.

“One country cannot provide us with enough tanks, because we have to deal with thousands of tanks from the Russian Federation,” Mr. Zelensky said.

—Georgi Kantchev, Jared Malsin and Karolina Jeznach contributed to this article.

Write to Yaroslav Trofimov at yaroslav.trofimov@wsj.com



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The Sun is a rag but I'm interested what people think about the hand rubbing stuff: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21017868/putin-rubs-hand-berating-kremlin-elite
It's at the very least kinda weird

And that face, bleh
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This is peak presidential performance. You may not like it, but this is what it looks like.
He's got a canula bruise. It's faint, but it's there. Guess he's having some sort of IV treatment.
The war is aging him.
 
There will definitely be an official route for volunteers & contractors into the Ukrainian Hurt Locker. The pay-offs might be pretty good, if they survive long enough; although most farmers are still probably going to have to do it on their own (the ones who come back).
In either this video or other part of it this dude went over it a little
He's American-Ukrainian, gave an interview on his previous tour, was lucky enough to survive and return to US to wrap up some business, just to go back again last fall, this one is after his second tour essentially.
Basically, back in the day he helped his grandad along with their extended family build the house in some Kharkov village/town where they lived if I'm not mistaken, and his uncle's house was nearby where he had a business going, raising animals and selling them. Most people left, but his grandmother refused to leave the house, and his aunt decided to remain with her because she's too old to leave her alone. Russian soldiers later moved in, kicked them out. Slaughtered animals and stole everything that wasn't nailed on their way out when they eventually left, houses were destroyed.

Okay, for the relevant part. He was there and said that uncle's house was still salvageable, but when he asked whether he's going to return and rebuild, uncle replied that he doesn't see any point in coming back as all infrastructure is destroyed. "There's no school anymore to send my kids to, no hospital, no police or administration building, no water, no power. None of my friends are planning on returning."
The place has been essentially erased from the map. Now he has to live in one bedroom apartment instead of a house they themselves built, their community is gone.

I would imagine it's the same with many if not every contested village and town. It infuriates me to no end, it's so tragic.
 
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You know where the mines are, your adversary does not. You don't mine your entire front, just certain areas (usually your flank). Using mines may limit the avenues you can push forward, but also limits the sectors you can be attacked from.

There were stories of Russian Mobliks attacking while regular army units mined their avenues of retreat due to fog of war/shit Russian comms.
Thanks for the explanation guys, should've figured as much myself

In other "news", Russian MoD claims to have destroyed 4 Bradley's in Ukraine, must be some kinda attack with the use of time machine, why they didn't strike in the past then is anyone's guess:

The attached clip is from the official Russian source, face everyone is probably familiar with by now:

Hysterical.
 
Look at Obama on the campaign trail and then look at him one month after getting Trump'd. He goes from yuppie executive to senior citizen, and he wasn't getting his ass handed to him by a country 1/4th his size while his inner circle plotted his assassination.
Bill Burr had a funny bit on that:
About 50 seconds in

While on that site I linked previously, noticed another article: https://focus.ua/voennye-novosti/54...sbili-drony-kamikadze-iz-pulemeta-maksim-foto
It talks about the destruction of two Shahed-136 using TWINNED MAXIM MACHINE GUNS! Yeah, you read that right.
At first I thought it was a screenshot from a fucking videogame. You know, there used to be a genre back in the day where you control a turret and fight off invasions and shit, pretty fun:
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Speaking of UXOs...


Ukrainian war-diggers & farmers are going to be busy for the next 100yrs at least; and just imagine the vast amount of buried small arms as well. I imagine quite a few farmers will be able to fund their way through the lost crops by selling salvaged weapons back to the state (or more likely to enterprising arms-traders).
 
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Russia MoD claim that they have taken control Soledar.
If this is true, then it would be the first victory for Russia in months.
It is still lame that it took this long for them to take this town.
 

Western Tanks Appear Headed to Ukraine, Breaking Another Taboo​

The West has sent an array of weapons once seen as too provocative, and it looks like tanks will be next. With a new Russian offensive expected, officials see an urgent need to shift the balance.
Archive, b/c the NY Times paywall is a thing.

At this point I don't honestly care which side "wins," if such a condition is even possible. I am curious how this is affecting general military readiness in NATO, though.

FWIW, I also somehow thought the Russian military at this point was a collection of physically unfit retards utlizing barely functional gear spiced up with a few Chechen rape brigades. They are in fact credibly capable of mounting a true offensive?
 

CNN team near Soledar witnesses organized pullback of Ukrainian troops​

A CNN team just outside of Soledar reported ongoing mortar and rocket fire on Friday afternoon after Russia claimed control of the eastern Ukrainian town.

The team, positioned approximately 2.5 miles from Soledar, witnessed Ukrainian forces ferrying troops out on Friday afternoon, in what appeared to be an organized pullback from the town.

There did not appear to be a sense of panic among the withdrawing Ukrainian troops.

Some background: Russia claimed on Friday to have taken Soledar in what would represent a symbolic if not overly strategic victory for Moscow, but a Ukrainian official denied Moscow’s assertion, saying fighting was ongoing.

 
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