Inactive Gonzalo Lira / Coach Red Pill / expat229 - Scam Artist, Male Feminist Pretending to be Alt-Right, Possible Rapist?, Liar, Failed Economist

[Overpriced Gaming Chair]

LazerPig's argument for T-34 being one of the worst tanks of WW2 goes like this:

A) When built to it's specifications, T-34 would be decent to good design.
B) Soviets did not build them to the specifications during the war.

He addressed the obvious counterpoint of "quantity has quality of it's own" with the fact that you needed to train even more tank crews to replace all of the ones lost due to bad production quality so the crew quality also went to shitter.

I can't find the clip with a quick search but if you search for The Chieftain climbing out of T-34 and Sherman (the alleged death trap Zippo lighter) you can see night and day difference between the two. Even if Sherman did get "killed" as long as it wasn't catastrophic, the crew could basically jump out and be assigned to a new tank. T-34 in comparison is extremely cramped due to combination of low profile and the angled armor. This leads to additional soft factor where sitting in and driving around in Sherman is simply less exhausting for the crew than in T-34.

 

[King Possum]

...and thinks the French had good tanks in WW2. This is basically a retard fight on all fronts.

The Char 2C is an amazing though

 

[WelperHelper99]

I like lazer pigs YouTube content. But he’s definitely someone that you need to separate the art from the artist.

I was tempted to bring him up before because he’s actually mentioned the Kiwi Farms in a video. I can’t remember exactly what video and what he said but it wasn’t positive. I think it was in general rolling in all the bad places on the Internet who called him a faggot because he doesn’t like their Russian tanks.

Also he’s quite Jim sterling-esk in that he’s gets angry at Russia because and I quote “in Russia my sexuality is illegal“ which I think he said in his T 34 video. Also even though he plays his cards close to his chest, I’m pretty sure he’s quite the “muh mentalz, muh fibromyalgia” kind of guy.

Also he’s so upper middle class is painful. His parents even live in Spain, Pig needed to take some time off YouTube to go visit his mom who got sick in Spain. Pigs probably anti-Brexit only because it forced his parents to pay actual taxes abroad.

He’s definitely more nuanced than most of the Talking Heads when it comes to military stuff. He claims to have had a career in British intelligence but he was mainly doing collateral damage risk management for drone strikes. I.e. he will judge if a place should or shouldn’t be striked and how many civilians may die.

I haven’t listen to the debate yet but I’ve never really heard lazer pig talk about how good NATO is, he is definitely anti-Russia and even ended a video with “Slava Ukraine” which is cringe. He’s already homo so it’s not a far fetched that he would also be pro global.

Again I like lazerpig, and for God sakes dude if you read this thread please love of God do not mention the kiwi farms, just ignore the trolls and tell me more about retardEd drama in MiL sim communities. I don’t need you virtue signaling how many Ukrainian cocks you sucked to own da haters on 4chan.

I very much agree in that I like the guy, in that he has takes that go against the grain even if I disagree-like the A-10 video, still love that death machine BRRR- and I find him funny, while also admitting the man has issues, like still being hung up on Brexit. I will say this, for what I've watched so far, out of the two, Lazerpig is being a fucking gentleman compared to redpill. Think soviet style interrogation with yes or no answers while yelling over pig whenever he wants to add nuance to his points. I'm going to continue watching , so I'll either edit this if there's not a response after this or ill post a responseif someone replies.

EDIT 1: 1:39:00, we are in the military section, and RedPill, getting frustrated at taking a pounding, starts calling Lazerpig evil. Now he's been doing this up to this point, but this is the key sperg out. He sees this as Lazerpig is evil.

 

[Almighty MoeBro Nation]

Bringing British food prices into the equation was a stupid ass move on Lira's part. Food prices are going up everywhere. I'm too lazy to do the research but I'm willing to bet Moscow's prices are actually worse in some regards due to sanctions

The only thing Lazerpig said that I thought was blatantly wrong was when he said Non Credible Defense invented the Ghost of Kyiv. It was actually just a weird twitter rumor that started as a reaction to the fact the Ukrainian airforce was still pulling it's weight even though it should have been completely crippled by week 1 assuming Russia was halfway as competent as they claimed.

Z-bros started getting pissy and called out this obviously fake rumor at every opportunity. To this day they'll still occasionally bring up the ghost of keeev just for the sake of being butthurt. Trolls saw it pissed them off, so they started making memes about it and pretending like it was real, creating a circular cycle. r/NCD deserves credit for the memes but I would also give props to pro Ukrainian /pol/ and /k/ threads who also contributed

 

[Ego]

CRP in the first minutes of this trying to say NATO themselves want him dead is hilarious, dude was already stopped by Ukrainian special police. If NATO wanted him gone he would have already been killed in an "artillery strike" to the back of the head and dumped in a mass grave.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I listened to the CRP/laserpig thing today during my long run. Worst run I had in years, probably had something to do with the sheer stupidity of the whole thing.
Disappointingly, laserpig was really bad at it too. First there was the obvious Kosovo point of similarity. Liberal types truly have no answers here, that is correct. Why did NATO intervene to protect the Muslim minority which was on Serbian land, and which is a rather non-indigenous minority too (part with Turkish heritage, part with conversions to Islam)?
Why is Russia not allowed to protect their own minorities the same way?
Now most people that have read my posts know that I have no sympathy for Russia at all, but I also like truth and accuracy.
So it's undeniable that Ukraine is not a liberal paradise and that it treats to this day its minorities badly. There is no truly guilty part in ethnic conflict. It's centuries long and each side does its own evil shit.
laserpig went with the "of course we cannot allow genocide" line, which is absolutely retarded.
There are multiple genocides across the planet. Only very few have the luck of NATO intervention. So there are reasons. Additional reasons, not "must protecc muh minority".
Ukraine should always be protected, together with Serbia, on the basis of territorial integrity and majority rule. Muslims in Kosovo can GTFO to Albania if they hate it in Serbia. Russians in Donbas, motherland nearby, off with you, bbye! The borders remaining intact is what guarantees peace and stability. Ethnic conflicts come and go. Borders should matter, especially those recognized by the UN.
But that's already TMI for this shitshow. Lira is an absolute retard with his idiotic powerpoint crap and admissions that he wants to interrogate his ideological enemies. laserpig is an absolute idiot for staying and playing with it, imagine getting interrogated online, who the fuck you think you are Gonzalo lmao.
It's insane these people have audiences. Makes me sad for humanity.

 

[armoreddinnerjacket]

Honestly the worst part was seeing people who agreed with CRP and didn't even have the decency to criticize his approach. Just because you agree with Lira's viewpoints doesn't justify bullying and screaming at guests on stream.

 

[agripipina]

Honestly the worst part was seeing people who agreed with CRP and didn't even have the decency to criticize his approach. Just because you agree with Lira's viewpoints doesn't justify bullying and screaming at guests on stream.

Berletic was being a mommy telling him that it was alright to lose his shit because "debate isn't for everyone". He even said having those slides was totally not a horrible idea which was oh boy... I mean I get that it could serve as a useful way to organize the stream but the way he used it was... not that.

 

[MeganDodgedABullet]

Would be fire if the doddery old boomer showed up at Ralphs tardfest - with multiple cameras.

 

[mofu mofo]

Red pill claimed to have LIVED in those places yes

Ah, that makes more sense.

Lazerpig lives in Scotland, and this was specifically over Christmas, isn't that basically California on steroids? I'm speaking as an American, everything is expensive in California because leftists.

More like Quebec. All the big supermarkets are the same as the ones south of the border so the urban prices will be roughly the same except for alcohol where there's a minimum price of 50p per unit. The big difference is that a lot of Scotland is remote and expensive to transport things to so small shops in the Highlands and Islands are noticeably more expensive, though they didn't seem exceptionally so when I went to Skye about a decade ago.

Bringing British food prices into the equation was a stupid ass move on Lira's part. Food prices are going up everywhere. I'm too lazy to do the research but I'm willing to bet Moscow's prices are actually worse in some regards due to sanctions

Some are. There's a bunch of Russian tubers who've made 'post-sanctions shopping experience' vids and in this one he found instant coffee that's cheaper than the same brand in UK supermarkets. That tuber was shopping in St. Petersburg so more remote areas will be more expensive for some goods. Fresh fruit seem to be a lot more expensive than the UK.

Spoiler: 'tism

There are multiple genocides across the planet. Only very few have the luck of NATO intervention.

Serbia is a Russian ally, that's why NATO took an interest in it. Also, the various Balkan wars were still fresh in everybody's memories so there was an incentive for The West™ to try and act like they weren't completely useless in that region of the world.

Why did NATO intervene to protect the Muslim minority which was on Serbian land, and which is a rather non-indigenous minority too (part with Turkish heritage, part with conversions to Islam)?

Majority, not minority. It seems to be a lot more to do with Kosovars being mostly ethnic Albanians than them being muslims. I can't lay my eyes on first hand sources as they all seem to be physical books that are nowhere near me so I'm stuck with wankypedia, more wankypedia, an encyclopedia and the Internet Library of Serb Culture. According to them, muslims have been a majority in Kosovo since the late 19th century, having started from almost zero in the Middle Ages. This was partly due to Ottoman ethnic engineering after an uprising in 1878 and the rest due to various wars between the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Ottomans and the Serbs. Since then there's been ethnic cleansings back and forth between Serbs & Albanians due to WW1 and WW2, including most of Kosovo being briefly annexed by Italian-occupied Albania.
The best evidence is the 1921 census, mostly cos the articles citing it are citing separate sources one of which is the Serbian institute of statistics, and not just copying each other's homework. That shows Kosovo as 75% muslim and 65% Albanian at the time. Subsequent censuses show Albanian proportion dropping to about 60% in 1931 and rising thereafter.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

CRP in the first minutes of this trying to say NATO themselves want him dead is hilarious, dude was already stopped by Ukrainian special police. If NATO wanted him gone he would have already been killed in an "artillery strike" to the back of the head and dumped in a mass grave.

They held him for a week and just let him go without a scratch! That's Gonzo's own story!

 

[Rabid Wombat]

Seeing coach DouchePill still seething, coping and malding over this, warms my heart.

Lazerpig may be a drunken gay ex glowie, but Lira is the real faggot of this story.

 

[agripipina]

Seeing coach DouchePill still seething, coping and malding over this, warms my heart.

Lazerpig may be a drunken gay ex glowie, but Lira is the real faggot of this story.

Once a glownigger always a glownigger

 

[Rabid Wombat]

Once a glownigger always a glownigger

yeah but at least Lazerpig is honest and upfront about it.

Douchepill is just another Mossad asset.

 

[agripipina]

yeah but at least Lazerpig is honest and upfront about it.

Douchepill is just another Mossad asset.

>mossad asset
you're saying he intentionally threw the debate to help the ukrainian's greater israel project?
oy bey

 

[doodoocaca]

I actually listened to this shit. Destiny did the smart thing and noped out pretty quickly.

Gonzalo just tried to rattle off framed, conflating, loaded questions (read: bullshit) to prove that anyone who doesn't agree with him is "Ignorant or Evil" in a fucking shit powerpoint. He even said "the point of this conversation is to determine if you're ignorant or evil."

He did not, however, actually full screen the powerpoint. Hum.

He gets mad if someone refuses to answer a loaded ass question and smokes more than a barbecue. Fucking lol. Right now he's blaming the war in Ukraine on people like Lazerpig. Because apparently the invader is allowed to invade but it's someone else's fault for provoking the invasion or fighting back.

Jesus Christ this is hilarious.

 

[Overpriced Gaming Chair]

Someone suggested Gonzalo only has that PowerPoint thing because Perun does glorified PowerPoint presentations and people trust him, so Gonzalo expects his bullshit to be more believable when its made into a PowerPoint.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

I was sympathetic towards Russia up until they announced their alliance with China.

Like, before that it was “Oh, ok. You’re going to make your own NATO with Tajikistan and Azerbaijan. Alright.”

Basically harmless, a positive for Russian citizens to feel important, but whatever. Russia was still a prodigal son of Europe.

Then they come out and say they’re “unlimited” best friends with China, and I had to confront the fact that Putin is a complete pants-shitting retard.

You will have zero vote in the actions of a country with ten times your economy and ten times your population, especially considering that your own country is empty of people and full of land resources. There’s no way that ends other than Russia being a vassal of China, and that’s too heavy of a price to pay because the west hurt your feelings.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Basically harmless, a positive for Russian citizens to feel important, but whatever. Russia was still a prodigal son of Europe.

You should go visit after the war's over, so many of them hate Europe and have all sorts of confused ideas about whites/Europeans. Putin crushed the actual Russian ethnonationalists (some of whom are fighting for Ukraine), and he imposed strict limits about the type of right wing that is acceptable, i.e. you have to be a patriotic sycophant for his regime, seethe against "the West", against fascists and colonial powers etc.
Simultaneously with the lunacy that the West is fascist, they also think the West is progressive and degenerate, even satanic.
Sure, many young people don't really buy this stuff in full and Russia has its own share of rabid feminists and purple hairs, but they will typically just stay silent and go with their lives, as long as there is enough money around.
It's a highly confusing and surreal situation that's grounded in fantasies and imagination, not reality.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

You should go visit after the war's over, so many of them hate Europe and have all sorts of confused ideas about whites/Europeans. Putin crushed the actual Russian ethnonationalists (some of whom are fighting for Ukraine), and he imposed strict limits about the type of right wing that is acceptable, i.e. you have to be a patriotic sycophant for his regime, seethe against "the West", against fascists and colonial powers etc.
Simultaneously with the lunacy that the West is fascist, they also think the West is progressive and degenerate, even satanic.
Sure, many young people don't really buy this stuff in full and Russia has its own share of rabid feminists and purple hairs, but they will typically just stay silent and go with their lives, as long as there is enough money around.
It's a highly confusing and surreal situation that's grounded in fantasies and imagination, not reality.

I mean, I was born in the 80’s, and Brezhnev was still the premier, it wasn’t even Gorbachev yet.

I imagine there’s a good deal of paranoia when it comes to expressing opinions over there.

Mostly what I meant was that since conflict with China is inevitable, I didn’t think Russia would be dumb enough to side with China, that they’d understand there would be no way to preserve Russia in that scenario.