Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Glowie]

Fresh batch of Russian conscripts in 392th regiment sent to ice pits to die in Lugansk region, nonexistent training, no equipment no fortifications either. Ain't life grand in Russian army? VK russian social media is a comedy goldmine.

Literal cannon fodder think Putin gives a damn about them. Russia is resorting to Soviet Era tactic.

I'll keep posting more comedy as it surfaces as it shows absolute state of Russian army, which is quite revealing.

 

[Enginig Gaming]

Can anyone please tell me how important Soledar and Bahkmut being taken are for Russia?
Anyone here is not a Z-Supporter or NAFO Shill?

 

[The Punished Mitch]

The absolute Cope of the Russians. First "Ukraine Totally wants to be part of Russia, Maidan was all US plot. It was not organic!".

Then it became "We can't allow poor innocent ethnic Russians be oppressed by evil Nazi Ukrainians uWu.

Then it became "Ukraine isn't a real country anyway, we just need to frown at them and they will fall in line".

Now, its "Russia is in a war for its very survival. NATO will fight to the last Ukrainian, who are a slave race that must be exterminated because clearly they cannot accept the irrefutable truth they do no exist".

The fact that Russia was willing to slaughter thousands of its own soldiers to get a minor win that won't amount to anything pretty much says everything at this point. It was all for the cameras and nothing has fundamentally changed.

It HAS to be asked at this point. What exactly is Russias victory conditions here? What PRECISELY does Russia want from all this death. What is it Russia is trying to buy with all this blood and treasure. Can any of the resident vatniks here give a convincing answer? Or are you like everyone else in the world, and not have a fucking clue because still to this day Russia has not declared war on Ukraine or set forth a set a demands that isn't "Ukraine must cease to exist".

WEF goobers ( very much including Putin ) are larping a conflict to bring about the desired solution, in this case the rapid deindustrialization and descent into abject poverty of Europe.

Much like the coof-hoax was implemented to get the niggercattle used to showing papers everywhere and complying with the most insane policies the world has ever seen to stop the Chinese Sniffles.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I'll keep posting more comedy as it surfaces as it shows absolute state of Russian army, which is quite revealing.

Here's comedy about the absolute state of the AFU; new Ukrainian stamp just dropped

 

[mindlessobserver]

Can anyone please tell me how important Soledar and Bahkmut being taken are for Russia?
Anyone here is not a Z-Supporter or NAFO Shill?

Soledar gives access to the main North South Highway in the area, provided Russia can keep going past it for another 2 kilometers to the actual road and rail junction.

Beyond that? Not much. Bakhmut was very important prior to the Kharkiv offensive as it opened up prime tank maneuver area up the M3 highway to Sloviansk and Kramatorsk. If Russia captures those two they can claim to have liberated the Donbass from Ukraine.

The problem is The entire bakhmut push was supposed to be part a two pronged offensive on Sloviansk. But when Ukraine recaptured Izium the two prongs became one and ever since then Bakhmut has become the Battle of Fredricksburg and Prigozhin a Russian General Burnside. The plan says take the heights and by God as many men as required will be sent into a head long charge until that happens.

 

[Enginig Gaming]

Soledar gives access to the main North South Highway in the area, provided Russia can keep going past it for another 2 kilometers to the actual road and rail junction.

Beyond that? Not much. Bakhmut was very important prior to the Kharkiv offensive as it opened up prime tank maneuver area up the M3 highway to Sloviansk and Kramatorsk. If Russia captures those two they can claim to have liberated the Donbass from Ukraine.

The problem is The entire bakhmut push was supposed to be part a two pronged offensive on Sloviansk. But when Ukraine recaptured Izium the two prongs became one and ever since then Bakhmut has become the Battle of Fredricksburg and Prigozhin a Russian General Burnside. The plan says take the heights and by God as many men as required will be sent into a head long charge until that happens.

Thanks for the answer,so yeah but in this time Burnside won but had six gazillion loses vs 5 gazillion Ukraine loses.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Thanks for the answer,so yeah but in this time Burnside won but had six gazillion loses vs 5 gazillion Ukraine loses.

The Union Army crossed the Rappahannock River and captured Fredricksburg during the Battle. The problem was Fredricksburg was not the goal. Richmond was. And to get to Richmond they had to gain control of the Confederate defense lines past the actual map dot.

Russia has the exact same problem here, except on steroids. They have not managed to cross the river yet. The Ukrainian defense line is arrayed on the other side of the Bakhmutka River with multi layered artillery. The Russians are going to have to charge out across open fields into the teeth of it to bridge the river and advance.

The fact Soledar got taken was because nobody thought Prigozhin would be desperate enough to try this route. At Bakhmut the river runs through the center of town, so Russia has urban coverage up to the bridge point. At Soledar the bridge point is literally in the sunflower fields with 2 Kilometers of flat open terrain, in full view of machine gun emplacement and mortars.

 

[Enginig Gaming]

The Union Army crossed the Rappahannock River and captured Fredricksburg during the Battle. The problem was Fredricksburg was not the goal. Richmond was. And to get to Richmond they had to gain control of the Confederate defense lines past the actual map dot.

Russia has the exact same problem here, except on steroids. They have not managed to cross the river yet. The Ukrainian defense line is arrayed on the other side of the Bakhmutka River with multi layered artillery. The Russians are going to have to charge out across open fields into the teeth of it to bridge the river and advance.

The fact Soledar got taken was because nobody thought Prigozhin would be desperate enough to try this route. At Bakhmut the river runs through the center of town, so Russia has urban coverage up to the bridge point. At Soledar the bridge point is literally in the sunflower fields with 2 Kilometers of flat open terrain, in full view of machine gun emplacement and mortars.

I understand where you come from,but i rember that it was a Wagner army cooperation attack,so maybe is the beggineing of the end on on that front or im wrong
(Also i rember saying no Z or Nafo people answering my first question,where are the Neutral/both are shit people around here telling thier POV?)

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Can anyone please tell me how important Soledar and Bahkmut being taken are for Russia?
Anyone here is not a Z-Supporter or NAFO Shill?

Taking Soledar allows Russia to take control of the T0513 Bakhmut-Siversk highway, one of the two major logistical lines supplying the AFU in Bakhmut.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The week or so of this thread where the mods actually moved the Tard fighting posts into their own threads were the good days and I wish they came back.

Please report whenever slapfights occur. Thank you.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I understand where you come from,but i rember that it was a Wagner army cooperation attack,so maybe is the beggineing of the end on on that front or im wrong
(Also i rember saying no Z or Nafo people answering my first question,where are the Neutral/both are shit people around here telling thier POV?)

The issue was Soledar was a Salient position. It was east of thr main front line but considered unimportant because the idea Russia would try and break the Ukrainian lines there was silly.

The town itself is not importanrt. What ks important is the Road @Feline Supremacist mentioned in the above post. Because that Road essentially demarcated the principle Ukrainian front line in the Donbass.

What Feline is not mentionioning however is that the Road she is crowing about does not run through Soledar. It runs on the WEST Bank of the Bakhmutka River. 2 Kilometers BEYOND Soledar at the village of Blahodatne. The only thing on the EAST side of the river is the railroad, and ain't nothing going down those tracks any time soon.

But to actually cut the road Feline is crowing about, Wagner must charge across 2 Kilometers of open fields, to a river, cross that river, and then assault entrenched positions on the other side. With no air support. In the year of our lord 2023.

Once you realize this, you begin to realize why Soledar only had territorial guards in it.

 

[Glowie]

A scale mail made out of aluminium inside a vest of dead Russian soldier, they didn't tell him that aluminium doesn't quite stop high caliber bullets

I mean the budget and training is nonexistent among mopiks. This is just hilariously bad, what was the guy thinking?

File name dedicated old tradition.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Fresh batch of Russian conscripts in 392th regiment sent to ice pits to die in Lugansk region, nonexistent training, no equipment no fortifications either. Ain't life grand in Russian army? VK russian social media is a comedy goldmine.

Literal cannon fodder think Putin gives a damn about them. Russia is resorting to Soviet Era tactic.

I'll keep posting more comedy as it surfaces as it shows absolute state of Russian army, which is quite revealing.

Why do you think Russia is able to make water just disappear from trenches? As long as earthworks have existed this has been a problem.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The town itself is not importanrt.

What @mindlessobserver failed to note is taking the town is necessary, because the AFU was entrenched there. All of the towns on the AFU Donetsk lines are heavily fortified. One cannot take control of the roads that feed into the highway without taking the town; otherwise, they'd have hostiles harassing them from behind.

What ks important is the Road @Feline Supremacist mentioned in the above post. Because that Road essentially demarcated the principle Ukrainian front line in the Donbass.

It is one of two highways supplying the AFU, the other is the E40 highway

What Feline is not mentionioning however is that the Road she is crowing about does not run through Soledar. It runs on the WEST Bank of the Bakhmutka River. 2 Kilometers BEYOND Soledar at the village of Blahodatne. The only thing on the EAST side of the river is the railroad, and ain't nothing going down those tracks any time soon.

Rail is important and used by both sides, so making sure rail cannot supply the AFU is also an objective. @mindlessobserver is not familiar with all modes of transport in Eastern Europe, as rail is not as ubiquitous in the US as it is there. The railroads there run north all the way to Moscow and then go through south and then bend around down into Donetsk City.

But to actually cut the road Feline is crowing about, Wagner must charge across 2 Kilometers of open fields, to a river, cross that river, and then assault entrenched positions on the other side. With no air support. In the year of our lord 2023.

Once you realize this, you begin to realize why Soledar only had territorial guards in it.

Wagner and the Russia Federation Armed forces seem to be shelling areas close to the village roads in Novoluhanske and Bakhmut, which lead to the T0513 highway that goes north right into Bakhmut. Securing that route along with the E40 highway would enable the advance on Bakhmut via two converging axis.

Soledar is key to gaining control of Bakhmut, which is key to the liberation of Donetsk. Bakhmut is the foundation of the entire second line of defense of the Keef regime, After that, there's only one last defensive line in Donetsk between Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, further west. Holding Bakhmut threatens further advances and flanks in other directions due to its geographical location.

It would also allow greater control of the Donetsk-Seversky Canal, which provides water to Donetsk City. The Keef regime cut off the water supply to Donetsk five years ago, just like they did to Crimea five years earlier.

So yes, taking and holding Soledar is very important.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

So yes, taking and holding Soledar is very important.

No no no no, it's trivial, and the Russians wasted their time taking it. The fact that Ukraine sent troop after troop to their deaths trying to defend it only shows how unimportant it was. *snorts uncut copium*

 

[siegemeister675]

Make you seethe? Here's more cope from the Kyif Independent:

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If the belligerents were reversed you'd be making pretentious posts about muh Democracy and the American Wey instead.

Can you answer his question?

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

How empty are people's lives that they waste their time sperging in this thread?

 

[CarlosDanger]

No no no no, it's trivial, and the Russians wasted their time taking it. The fact that Ukraine sent troop after troop to their deaths trying to defend it only shows how unimportant it was. *snorts uncut copium*

I just read a lot and watch videos to see what is going on in the war, but if the town wasn't important, why wouldn't the Ukrainians just pull out and abandon it? Why send so many of their men into the meat grinder to die or get maimed for something that wasn't important?

 

[CaptainAutism69]

I just read a lot and watch videos to see what is going on in the war, but if the town wasn't important, why wouldn't the Ukrainians just pull out and abandon it? Why send so many of their men into the meat grinder to die or get maimed for something that wasn't important?

Several possibilities

a) It was important and this is a setback.
b) Zelensky is a saidist and hates his own people enough to send wave after wave of people to defend something not important
c) They used to think it was important, but after being slaughtered they realised they didn't really want it anyway

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Can you answer his question?

What question is that?