Razörfist's Spergs Arguing Politics

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The so-called "Pax Americana" is/was an illusion to keep the goyim cattle living in delusion. People who actually believe this bullshit think that before 9/11 America was heaven and conveniently forget the 1993 bombing(test bombing).
The fact is that WW1 started after Wilson sold out the country to Jews when he signed the Federal Reserve Act in 1913.
That's what made it possible for the """Allies""" to win WW1 and WW2 which of course came at barely any benefit for the American but plently for Jews who had their Israel formed and of course destroyed all of the monarchies in Europe and demonized the Ancient European symbol of the Swastika(don't understimate how important this was to these zealots). In fact even Hitler(real name:Adolf Shickelgrubber since he was a swarthy jew with stolen European genes) was a Rothschild agent all acting according to the plan.

And if you're gonna go back to the days of Rome, it literally goes back to those days when these fags spread Christcuckery in Rome almost 2000 years ago and eventually destroyed the Empire from within with (((Constantine))) and (((Theodosius))) not to mention the Syriac Emperors they installed previous to that which planted the seeds.
If Hadrian had finished the job the world now could have been so much better. We would all probably still have our original religions, the Huns/Ottomans/Mongolians etc. would have never messed with Europe since they'd get their asses kicked by Rome.

It's clear you're beyond bluepilled and prefer to live on your illusions so I'm not gonna waste anymore time.

Christianity kept the civil wars to a minimum. If it wasn't for the Christians, the Romans would've civil-warred themselves to death before the Huns could get there. Also, Hadrian would've been 100% on Lincoln's side, since he, like most Romans, believed in government by a central authority. If Hadrian was in charge of the North, Robert E. Lee and most leading Confederates would've been crucified.

In the same vein, if Hadrian met Razorfist, he'd have Danny-boy crucified for peddling his pro-states' rights ideology.

 

[Rapier Ape]

Watched it while playing Tactics Ogre, god damnit I feel like I'm shit at that game

Don't put too much thought into it.
Most of the storyline battles' units are 1, 2 and 3 levels higher than you.
Plus the unit's stats are jacked up as compared to what yours would be.
Then there's the part where the bosses stats are super jacked up and they start off with a full range of cards already equipped.
On top of that the battles are big uphill slogs.
Some of those battles are honestly half Rng with the cards it decides to dole out to you.
Just go in with the mindset that every fight is designed to as bullshit as possible. Especially end game.

 

[LeChampion1992]

The so-called "Pax Americana" is/was an illusion to keep the goyim cattle living in delusion. People who actually believe this bullshit think that before 9/11 America was heaven and conveniently forget the 1993 bombing(test bombing).
The fact is that WW1 started after Wilson sold out the country to Jews when he signed the Federal Reserve Act in 1913.

A little Jew obsessed but not off the mark

That's what made it possible for the """Allies""" to win WW1 and WW2 which of course came at barely any benefit for the American but plently for Jews who had their Israel formed and of course destroyed all of the monarchies in Europe and demonized the Ancient European symbol of the Swastika(don't understimate how important this was to these zealots).

Agreed

In fact even Hitler(real name:Adolf Shickelgrubber since he was a swarthy jew with stolen European genes) was a Rothschild agent all acting according to the plan.

Hitler was an Austrian painter man who in his personal life killed no one and by all accounts subscribed to the proper duality of man. A man who by in all normal personal day to day accounts was a normal and even kind man. But who's ambition for Germany led to millions dead.

And if you're gonna go back to the days of Rome, it literally goes back to those days when these fags spread Christcuckery in Rome almost 2000 years ago and eventually destroyed the Empire from within with (((Constantine))) and (((Theodosius))) not to mention the Syriac Emperors they installed previous to that which planted the seeds.
If Hadrian had finished the job the world now could have been so much better. We would all probably still have our original religions, the Huns/Ottomans/Mongolians etc. would have never messed with Europe since they'd get their asses kicked by Rome.

It's clear you're beyond bluepilled and prefer to live on your illusions so I'm not gonna waste anymore time.

Take your meds schizo. Unironically take your meds because you had me at the first part until you went insane.

Christianity kept the civil wars to a minimum. If it wasn't for the Christians, the Romans would've civil-warred themselves to death before the Huns could get there. Also, Hadrian would've been 100% on Lincoln's side, since he, like most Romans, believed in government by a central authority. If Hadrian was in charge of the North, Robert E. Lee and most leading Confederates would've been crucified.

In the same vein, if Hadrian met Razorfist, he'd have Danny-boy crucified for peddling his pro-states' rights ideology.

Yeah If anything Danny boy would probably get along more with Andrew Jackson. Which unironically turns out to be Americas most badass president.

Finally finished watching Danny's video.

Abraham Lincoln: American Dictator

Sic Semper TyRANTis!Chapter 1 - "Muh Lost Cause" - 00:02:07Chapter 2 - "The Great Emancipator" - 00:13:09Chapter 3 - "The Benevolent Dictator" - 00:29:34Chap...

youtu.be

So far I will try to be as objective as possible. Depending on your own political views if you view this as Lincoln was Americas greatest president, the racist southerners should all be lynched again because they were racist towards blacks in losing the war and republicans are evil Nazis and dumb.

You will hate Danny boy with a passion, reeeeeee at him, use this as proof of rascism and use this as some weird excuse to get him removed from YouTube.
Anyways if you're not a HHH level politisperg here is a better analysis.

The video is shit the first ten minutes, but after about 30-45 minutes in he does get into the juicy stuff, that actually isn't told by History channel or made into only 20k people died. It isn't the Jews did 9/11 level of conspiracy but more along the lines of Memphis Police killed MLK.

Sherman's march wasn't done enough Justice, but let's just say Sherman's wife sounded akin to the modern day Russian generals wife telling her husband who is a general "be sure to kill those dumb holhol scum, and get me nice loot"

Danny boy isn't nearly as talented as Monsinuer Z or Whatifalthist but I give the guy some credit where credit is due. I was expecting something completely pulled out of his ass and he pulls some sources instead.

 

[wilji1090]

The Lincoln video was the biggest disappointment I have ever seen. The way he was going on about it, I was expecting revelations that Lincoln had secretly funded John Brown's insurrection or something to that effect, but a lot of the subjects broached were already known to me and I had been nodding off.

The fact he glosses over Andrew Jackson's authoritarian actions during the Nullification Crisis annoys me because while Jackson's actions were sanctioned by Congress, it reflected a viewpoint that the Southern Democrats came to view. Jackson himself continuously referred to Native Americans as "Subjects" of the United States and thus not privy to the same rights and privileges as a citizen of the United States. If Abraham Lincoln is the American Caesar, then Jackson is the American Sulla.

The one thing that he points out in Lincoln supporting the Corwin Amendment (the OG 13th Amendment) is mitigated by the fact that the Corwin Amendment used the same vague languages of "persons in bondage" that the Constitution itself used and only restricted the institution of slavery to where it already existed. The reason why the South rejected the Corwin Amendment was because it was too vague in protecting the rights of slave holders, they wanted the Crittenden Compromise which would've expanded the domain of African slavery (the Compromise was explicit in this) into territory south of the Mason-Dixon.

The fact Lincoln held "racist" (in our 21st century morals) viewpoints is easily handwaved by the fact that Lincoln was also beset by rumors set by his opponents that he was in favor of race mixing, so the quote that he pulled up from the Lincoln-Douglass Debates is more to assuage the public of the time. Plus, are we really gonna be shocked to hear that a 19th Century politician expressed views abhorrent to our time?

For as much as he likes to disparage the Lost Cause myth, he does echo a lot of their viewpoints.

Now, I will absolutely agree with the man when it comes to how Lincoln is overly romanticized and there is an unhealthy amount of religious iconography to the stovepipe hat wearing fuck.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

So I'm just curious, why did the South want to go to war with the North anyway? Saying "because slavery" is too simple an answer at this point. I know that it was a major source of revenue for the South but as stated in this thread, Lincoln didn't care, so why did the South start the war?

 

[wilji1090]

So I'm just curious, why did the South want to go to war with the North anyway? Saying "because slavery" is too simple an answer at this point. I know that it was a major source of revenue for the South but as stated in this thread, Lincoln didn't care, so why did the South start the war?

The problem is that a lot of people forget that the South was making moves to seize federal forts prior to the firing on Fort Sumter. Now whether this was because of Lincoln himself being every bit the politician or not is unknown to me (for now) but the Confederate States of America had believed from the outset that they would have to fight for their independence. Take Robert E. Lee for example, he was a descendant of Henry Lee, a Virginian who fought alongside Washington during the Revolution, and so Lee saw the Confederate struggle as something more akin to the spirit of 1776.

A lot of Confederate politicians and influencers believed that the Revolution of 1776 was incomplete, or if you take the ramblings of George Fitzhugh of Virginia to his word, some believed the Confederacy was a correction of the doctrines of the American Sages of 1776:

"It would have been well for us, if the seemingly pompous inanities of the Declaration of Independence, of the Virginia Bill of Rights, and the Act of Religious Toleration had remained dead letters [...] Their charlatanic, half-learned, pedantic authors [believed that] 'all men are creation equal' [...] This is an infidel doctrine."

"We come now to the Southern Revolution of 1861, which we maintain was reactionary and conservative - a rolling back of the excesses of the Reformation - of Reformation run mad - a solemn protest against the doctrines of natural liberty, human equality, and the social contract as taught by Locke and the America sages of 1776... and an equally solemn protest against the doctrines of Adam Smith, [Benjamin] Franklin, Tom Paine, and the rest of the infidel political economists who maintain the world is much too governed."

All from George Fitzhugh.

What's interesting to note to those who are autistic enough to look for documents of that time is to note how the Confederate Constitution (in addition to protecting the institution of slavery) also reflected the language of the 19th Century.

 

[Buttz McSmellington]

The way he was going on about it, I was expecting revelations that Lincoln had secretly funded John Brown's insurrection or something to that effect.

I expected him to reveal Lincoln is the reason people think the Star Wars prequels are bad.

 

[wilji1090]

I expected him to reveal Lincoln is the reason people think the Star Wars prequels are bad.

I will die on the hill that the prequels aren't that bad!

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

So I'm just curious, why did the South want to go to war with the North anyway? Saying "because slavery" is too simple an answer at this point. I know that it was a major source of revenue for the South but as stated in this thread, Lincoln didn't care, so why did the South start the war?

Because they thought he might strip them of their rights to slavery in the future, and he ran on a platform of restricting slavery to the South and away from the western territories.

And if Razor wants to talk about election funnybusiness, Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot during the 1860 election. Imagine if they did that to Trump in the Blue States in 2020. Razor would've freaked the fuck out.

 

[wilji1090]

Because they thought he might strip them of their rights to slavery in the future, and he ran on a platform of restricting slavery to the South and away from the western territories.

And if Razor wants to talk about election funnybusiness, Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot during the 1860 election. Imagine if they did that to Trump in the Blue States in 2020. Razor would've freaked the fuck out.

Pretty much this in a nutshell.

The South did everything they could do to stop Lincoln.

Now, there IS one thing that should concern anyone whether pro or anti Lincoln: Lincoln was fully prepared to subvert the will of the American people if McClellan had won the election of 1864. This is to mean that had McClellan actually succeeded in securing the election, Lincoln had a letter drafted that he would've sent to Congress asking them not to seat him until the crisis had been resolved.

 

[Popper Whiting]

Finally finished watching Danny's video.

Abraham Lincoln: American Dictator

Sic Semper TyRANTis!Chapter 1 - "Muh Lost Cause" - 00:02:07Chapter 2 - "The Great Emancipator" - 00:13:09Chapter 3 - "The Benevolent Dictator" - 00:29:34Chap...

youtu.be

So far I will try to be as objective as possible. Depending on your own political views if you view this as Lincoln was Americas greatest president, the racist southerners should all be lynched again because they were racist towards blacks in losing the war and republicans are evil Nazis and dumb.

You will hate Danny boy with a passion, reeeeeee at him, use this as proof of rascism and use this as some weird excuse to get him removed from YouTube.
Anyways if you're not a HHH level politisperg here is a better analysis.

The video is shit the first ten minutes, but after about 30-45 minutes in he does get into the juicy stuff, that actually isn't told by History channel or made into only 20k people died. It isn't the Jews did 9/11 level of conspiracy but more along the lines of Memphis Police killed MLK.

Sherman's march wasn't done enough Justice, but let's just say Sherman's wife sounded akin to the modern day Russian generals wife telling her husband who is a general "be sure to kill those dumb holhol scum, and get me nice loot"

Danny boy isn't nearly as talented as Monsinuer Z or Whatifalthist but I give the guy some credit where credit is due. I was expecting something completely pulled out of his ass and he pulls some sources instead.

I couldn't last 5 minutes. The fart huffing was too much smug for me to handle. But I did learn this, Honest Abe was the original Danny troll, the man in the top hat is Daniel's man in a pickle suit. Kojima was the second. We've just tacked on after the fact and for that reason Abraham Lincoln is truly based.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Pretty much this in a nutshell.

The South did everything they could do to stop Lincoln.

Now, there IS one thing that should concern anyone whether pro or anti Lincoln: Lincoln was fully prepared to subvert the will of the American people if McClellan had won the election of 1864. This is to mean that had McClellan actually succeeded in securing the election, Lincoln had a letter drafted that he would've sent to Congress asking them not to seat him until the crisis had been resolved.

So Lincoln was gonna pull a Trump? lol.

Because they thought he might strip them of their rights to slavery in the future, and he ran on a platform of restricting slavery to the South and away from the western territories.

This sounds like a really simple explanation, especially after everyone's already admitted that Lincoln didn't care about slaves at all. I feel like you're not telling the whole story.

 

[Kenya Jones]

God I cannot watch that video. Danny boy is so wrong on about everything that it just boggles the mind.

 

[wilji1090]

So Lincoln was gonna pull a Trump? lol.

A little more overtly than Trump. Where Trump has the plausible deniability of it being the actions of the average yokel, Lincoln was expressly asking for Congress to deny the transfer of power.

But, while Razor highlights the faults and dubious legal actions of the Lincoln Administration, it seems that he forgets that Congress took corrective action in the aftermath of his death. The Spoils system in particular was done away with by one of Lincoln's most ardent critics in George Pendleton and the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the military from being used as a police force to name examples.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

A little more overtly than Trump. Where Trump has the plausible deniability of it being the actions of the average yokel, Lincoln was expressly asking for Congress to deny the transfer of power.

I'm not referring to the capitol raid. Trump asked Mike Pence directly not to certify the election. He may have addressed it to someone else, but he still tried to prevent the election from finalizing.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I couldn't last 5 minutes. The fart huffing was too much smug for me to handle. But I did learn this, Honest Abe was the original Danny troll, the man in the top hat is Daniel's man in a pickle suit. Kojima was the second. We've just tacked on after the fact and for that reason Abraham Lincoln is truly based.

-Become president after a contested election, despite the fact that a whole region of the country did NOT put your name in the ballot.
-Rebel slaveowners demand their independence despite holding others in slavery because it makes them rich.
-Tell them to shove it up their ass, hold the line despite your initial crop of generals not being the best.
-Win re-election after one of your generals scores an important victory.
-Send another general to "make Georgia howl".
-Use your nation's superior logistical systems to beat down and subjugate a country run by rich assholes who don't even fully support their government.
-Write a law forcing the rebel slave-owners to free their slaves.
-Start the process of ending slavery in general.
-Be remembered as a hero and a legend after your death, to the point where your statue sits on a throne in the capital of the nation, and you're basically seen as the political equivalent of a saint in American politics.

Yes, Lincoln is truly based.

So Lincoln was gonna pull a Trump? lol.

He might have, but then Grant's victory made Lincoln's popularity go up enough that the people went with him.

This sounds like a really simple explanation, especially after everyone's already admitted that Lincoln didn't care about slaves at all. I feel like you're not telling the whole story.

It is the whole story. Lincoln kept telling the South that they can keep slavery so long as it's kept away from the western territories, (so that God-fearing white American citizens can get the jobs there) but the Southern slave-owners did not believe him and fully expected the North to one day take away their rights to own slaves. So despite Lincoln saying otherwise, the South feared that if an anti-slavery president won the ballot, it meant that their vote no longer mattered, because they could get out-voted by the North.

 

[wilji1090]

Also, I'd point out that Razor's talk of taxation being a reason for the South seceding is faulty because of the fact that the Tariff of Abominations (which sparked the Nullification Crisis) was eventually repealed. The Morrill Tariff that a lot of people cite for Confederate secession also conveniently forget that it passed after states started seceding. In essence? The Morrill Tariff didn't cause secession, it passed because of secession.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Also, I'd point out that Razor's talk of taxation being a reason for the South seceding is faulty because of the fact that the Tariff of Abominations (which sparked the Nullification Crisis) was eventually repealed. The Morrill Tariff that a lot of people cite for Confederate secession also conveniently forget that it passed after states started seceding. In essence? The Morrill Tariff didn't cause secession, it passed because of secession.

Not only that, but some of those taxes were supporting a government that was helping the South recover escaped slaves. The South managed to get the Feds to help them recapture escaped slaves through the Fugitive Slave Law. They literally used the Feds as their tools until the Feds accepted a president who just wanted to put a few restrictions as to where slavery could be practiced. (They can have it in the South, just not in the western territories)

 

[wilji1090]

Not only that, but some of those taxes were supporting a government that was helping the South recover escaped slaves. The South managed to get the Feds to help them recapture escaped slaves through the Fugitive Slave Law. They literally used the Feds as their tools until the Feds accepted a president who just wanted to put a few restrictions as to where slavery could be practiced. (They can have it in the South, just not in the western territories)

Indeed. Now, I'll agree with Razor on the premise that the Confederacy doesn't have to be good in order for Lincoln to be bad.

But even his argument against Lincoln suspending habeus corpus falls, somewhat, flat in that Lincoln only extended the suspension of the writ to the railroads and the like so the senators and congressmen could convene in Washington D.C. to deliberate over the very issue itself. The Roger Taney Court was very much the activist court that Razor decries in the modern day and it baffles me that he acts as if the Taney Court (that gave us such a glowing, stellar ruling on Dred Scott v. Sanford) acted as Constitutional stalwarts instead of acting very much like the activists who boohoo'd in the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Indeed. Now, I'll agree with Razor on the premise that the Confederacy doesn't have to be good in order for Lincoln to be bad.

But even his argument against Lincoln suspending habeus corpus falls, somewhat, flat in that Lincoln only extended the suspension of the writ to the railroads and the like so the senators and congressmen could convene in Washington D.C. to deliberate over the very issue itself. The Roger Taney Court was very much the activist court that Razor decries in the modern day and it baffles me that he acts as if the Taney Court (that gave us such a glowing, stellar ruling on Dred Scott v. Sanford) acted as Constitutional stalwarts instead of acting very much like the activists who boohoo'd in the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

I'd even argue that Lincoln was fully within his rights to do what he did; it was war, and all is fair in love and war. He didn't order any massacres or excessive violations of human rights, just what was needed to end the war. The only people tried for war crimes are the losers and the ones who go overboard, and by the standards of his day, Lincoln was far from the cruelest or the most outrageous. I can name others even before Lincoln's time who were just as brutal, if not moreso, who lived in the late 1700s and early 1800s. Thomas Jefferson idolized the French Revolutionaries and bought the Louisiana Territory from Napoleon, and what those revolutionaries did with the nobles, clergy, and royalist peasants of France was far more cruel than anything Lincoln did.

I mean, shit, even I'd have less restraint if I were in Lincoln's shoes-I'd at least guillotine all the top Fire-Eaters and have their heads put on spikes outside the White House.

FYI, Fire-Eaters were pro-slavery Southern politicians who were the biggest voices for secessionism prior to the Civil War, who desired to create a new nation which permanently guaranteed the right to own slaves. They accused the Republicans in the North of wanting to immediately end slavery, which was false, as Lincoln was OK with slavery so long as it's kept out of the western territories. The Fire-Eaters fully supported seceding from the North and declaring war against it. The blood of 600,000 Americans is on their hands.