Inactive Chelsea Lawrence / TanzChelsea - Munchie kicked out of two hospitals, home care and multiple treatment teams; Flagged and blacklisted by EPIC; Munched Herself to Death

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Chelsea taking the time from the ER to tell people not to tag Celine Dion.


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[LikeAStone 2.0]

Someone is doing a hospital visit again.
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• She states she coded in ambulance but she didnt want to be intubated so stopped them from intubating.
  • Some called her on this and she stated she never said she coded.
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• She states her O2 was at 15 and shes a DNR/DNI now.
• She states shes going to hospice.
• She is making sure shes admitted until Monday.

Coded means your heart stopped and lmao bro I’m intubating the fuck out of someone at that point whether or not they want it.

 

[Totallyunknown]

Back in the day (a decade or more), most people were snorting Ketamine as a white powder. I tried it a few times on top of MDMA and absolutely hated it - I'm not into downers. I've always perceived it as it is - a tranquilizer. I've never attempted to K-hole (because I preferred pills during this very brief experience) but for me it was like instantly being extremely drunk and sloppy.

When I left this scene, they started injecting it intramuscular (which on a recreational level is not my idea of fun, but to each their own) and people quickly became very serious addicts who would constantly end up needing hospitalization for various illnesses and dehydration and malnutrition (Canadian, so it's free). On the recreational side, the supply was being extremely cut with more dangerous drugs and most of the serious addicts I've known of are now dead.

I'm not super deeply entrenched in the munchie verse but I've read probably at least a few dozen cases and profiles and I don't think I've seen someone actively searching for ketamine before, especially for pain relief. I've seen them seek it as a solution to depression, but pain?

On a medical note, I once had to have something removed from my body while still awake but was incredibly mind numbingly painful. I am allergic to some medications so the mix they gave me was fentanyl and ketamine within a cocktail of other drugs. A very, very small amount that lasted probably five minutes. I cannot imagine the hoops she's gone through to get continual doses.

 

[A tree]

Back in the day (a decade or more), most people were snorting Ketamine as a white powder. I tried it a few times on top of MDMA and absolutely hated it - I'm not into downers. I've always perceived it as it is - a tranquilizer. I've never attempted to K-hole (because I preferred pills during this very brief experience) but for me it was like instantly being extremely drunk and sloppy.

When I left this scene, they started injecting it intramuscular (which on a recreational level is not my idea of fun, but to each their own) and people quickly became very serious addicts who would constantly end up needing hospitalization for various illnesses and dehydration and malnutrition (Canadian, so it's free). On the recreational side, the supply was being extremely cut with more dangerous drugs and most of the serious addicts I've known of are now dead.

I'm not super deeply entrenched in the munchie verse but I've read probably at least a few dozen cases and profiles and I don't think I've seen someone actively searching for ketamine before, especially for pain relief. I've seen them seek it as a solution to depression, but pain?

On a medical note, I once had to have something removed from my body while still awake but was incredibly mind numbingly painful. I am allergic to some medications so the mix they gave me was fentanyl and ketamine within a cocktail of other drugs. A very, very small amount that lasted probably five minutes. I cannot imagine the hoops she's gone through to get continual doses.

I'm pretty sure I was majorly self medicating for pain in my K phase. It was pretty effective in that it allowed me to carry on raving and fuck myself up even worse. A lot of people got physical injuries that way. A few fell off high buildings at squat raves because of that stuff.

It's used in pain management with pretty good effect but not by banging it up into a central line daily it's supposed to be occasional infusions that reduce dependence on opioids for long term pain management. Munchie Kaya has them off the top of my head and so did Jaquie.

 

[Smellee Cat]

Haters.



also, I have many questions about this. Is that an instant ice/hot pack in the bottom right? Why paper towel in her neck brace? What is the brand in the mid right? Why are sunglasses on her head during near-death and why does she have sunglass imprints on her eye area? Finally, is that a diagnostic pad on her chest or a line?


No hospital noises in the background.

 

[Troonos]

Not the K, perhaps, but there was mention of crushing pills to administer them via toob a few days ago, which is why I was concerned. She's apparently crushing something and shoving it through her Hickman, or was until they took her scripts away

She had a jejeunostomy tube. Totally routine and common to crush and instill pills through these.

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She's only end-stage stupidity and end-stage fraud.

Someone is doing a hospital visit again.

• She states shes going to hospice.

Hahaha, what a retard. You can't just decide to go to hospice. IP and OP hospice won't accept someone who isn't medically regarded as appropriate for hospice, and this cunt has no illnesses other than muh mentals. Stopping treatment when that treatment is all unnecessary is not hospice.

Not that she'd ever actually go on hospice because that would cut off the medical attention she needs to satisfy her psychologically.

I have many questions about this. Is that an instant ice/hot pack in the bottom right? Why paper towel in her neck brace? What is the brand in the mid right? Why are sunglasses on her head during near-death and why does she have sunglass imprints on her eye area? Finally, is that a diagnostic pad on her chest or a line?

Yeah, heat pack on her left axilla. Probably pretending she "went cold" and needed to be reheated.

12-lead EKG sticker on her right shoulder.

You know why sunglasses are on her head.

 

[Jewthulhu]

Coded means your heart stopped and lmao bro I’m intubating the fuck out of someone at that point whether or not they want it.

If you're coded you're not conscious to stop the paramedics from intubating. You're under implied consent unless you have a current signed DNR form right there that the paramedics are aware of.
My guess is she was faking some sort of attack, the paramedics tried to follow protocol and intubate, and she stopped them because oral airways cause you to gag if you're not truly unconcious, and nasal airways are uncomfortable if you don't actually need it.

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

Those O2 nose prongs are used for measuring expired CO2 (the scoop thing is connected to a CO2 sensor, to read how much CO2 you're breathing out), they're usually used for patients who have overdosed or are sedated in some way - basically you want the CO2 to alarm if it drops, because no expired CO2 = stopped breathing.

Pulse oximeters aren't very accurate below about 60% and 15% is just impossible it just won't read anything. And as has been pointed out she would be unconscious if she had such low O2, so couldn't decline intubation.

I feel this is going the same was as Hope with a fake end of life arc.

 

[ShadowCass]

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I'm curious about how the people in this thread and those familiar with the other tik tok munchie malingers think we should deal with these people. Is it possible to get them to ever admit what they are doing? Have you ever seen someone recover from this? Does this ever reach a point where it should be treated as criminal fraud and perhaps require forced commitment to a mental hospital?

We observe and comment and save receipts. And laugh, of course. But (kiwi) farmers in general refrain from engaging directly with the munchies - no one here wants to *do* anything to make anyone see the error of their ways.

If there was a way to influence some of the moms and dads in Tard Babies that might be an exception but they are all so down whatever weird road they are on it would be hopeless to even try.

 

[VisceraNexus]

I feel this is going the same was as Hope with a fake end of life arc.

It's fascinating that there is this subsection of munchies that are primarily seeking drugs, their behaviours are strikingly similar. I suppose a major difference between Hope and Chelton is their access to money. Hope had to constantly grift and scam people, and obviously Chelsea could easily blow her financial support and with this path she's on she definitely will, but she seemingly lives very comfortably. It helps that Hope did this multiple times and as far as we are aware, this is Chelsea's first venture into grifting drugs for her habit by pretending to be dying.

(Sperging some more, sorry; Malingering like this, and factitious disorder in the case of many other munchies, can sometimes occur simultaneously in a patient. But technically Factitious Disorder is the only one of the two that is considered a true mental illness. Factitious Disorder has a strong association with Borderline Personality Disorder*. I have seen some peer-reviewed studies note that substance abuse and addiction occurs in somewhere between 50%-78% of people diagnosed with BPD. People with BPD are sadly likely to cling onto a PTSD diagnosis, particularly Complex-PTSD, and combined with malingering or Factitious Disorder as well as substance abuse, the prognosis is generally very poor.

Recovery is extremely difficult, treatment has to be very consistent, and trying to convince these patients that they even need help for things other than "their trauma" in the first place ("victim mentality" is a good word for their worldview) is unbelievably hard and frustrating. I've known several psychiatrists, counselors, psych professors, etc who will outright refuse to treat them and will refer them to someone who specializes in that area. Basically, almost all of these munchies are either looking at a very long, slow road ahead or a very short one if they manage to accidentally kill themselves. And despite this, I actually do hope they can recover, even if it's only the slightest bit *As a note, I'm not saying every munchie definitely has BPD or any personality disorder, that they all are either malingering or have factitious disorder, or that they have a substance abuse issue. This is just to inform and entertain fellow munchie watching autists with speculation. Throw the entire jigsaw puzzle at me if you'd like.)

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Paging @Thomas Eugene Paris. I am DYING for your input on SPS and Ketamine, please.

Sorry, I've been in the shit, so to speak, in my offline life (such as it is). Syo posted on Telegram about Chelsea's affinity for the K hole and my mind has been blown ever since. I'm kind of speechless.

I use ket at work for anesthesia during certain procedures, but the "patients" can't talk about how it makes them feel.

Spoiler: powerlevely ketamine story time

I did it by accident once, and it was awful and I would never touch it again after that. It made me extremely nauseous (I had also been drinking, so that probably didn't help) and I puked into a coffee can that was being used as an ashtray. I was sitting on the floor at a party, and I was totally out of it and couldn't move. It's hard to describe how I felt, but I was sort of hallucinating that I was on a carousel, and then up on an apartment building rooftop that I went to occasionally, and I was thinking that my mother was there which was making me freak out because I was convinced she would find out I had taken drugs. It's not the same kind of hallucination or visuals as with acid or mushrooms though, it was more like having a dream, but knowing you are having a dream but you can't wake up. I knew where I was and could see the people around me, but it felt kind of like I was in a fishbowl observing it all. I guess that's the k-hole part of the experience. I don't know how long it lasted, it felt like a long time. I am not a fan of drugs that take you so far out of it that you feel out of control, and it definitely scared me straight on taking ketamine ever again. Even thinking about it now is making me feel weird. Lesson learned, don't take drugs from weird hippie ravers offering you something to be snorted off a frisbee.

Maybe someone more informed than I am can answer, is ketamine addictive? I know anything can be addictive and cause addict behavior, but is it physically addictive and would one get physical withdrawal symptoms from it?

My experience with recreational ket is that it's one of those things you either love or hate, with no middle ground. I've never tried it personally, doesn't sound like my thing, but people who I have talked to about it have been pretty evenly divided as far as whether it's worth doing. (I did get a chuckle out of the poster who explained that their K hole experience ended with their friends having to "revive" them with cocaine, though. That's an unholy speedball, for sure.)

My understanding is that it is not physically addictive but I can imagine it being very psychologically addictive for the right person. Like Chelsea. Love this for her.

I have never really run across anyone who uses it as their main drug of choice; most recreational users I've known have been of the "garbage can" type, who have a preferred drug but will use whatever is in front of them. I have never met someone who would go out of their way to get ket.

Ket is a great choice if you need rapid sequence induction of anesthesia, and it has a major advantage in that your patient will continue breathing independently. It can be used in patients with brain injury.

Its short duration of action makes it attractive for procedural sedation. For example, it's a great choice for sedating a kid in order to reduce ("set") a fracture. The major issue with it is that a significant percentage of people who receive ketamine anesthesia experience something called the emergence phenomenon, also known as emergence delirium. As the sedation wears off, the patient becomes extremely agitated, combative, and confused. It can be dangerous for both the patient and medical staff. It's far more likely to happen in adults, which is why other agents, such as midazolam, are sometimes preferred in that group. Obviously, you don't want some 6'5", 350 lb guy with a compound leg fracture to get combative and start raging.

Here's a great primer on ketamine and its uses.

I forget with Chels, does she have an IV accessible too or is all this going into her gastric line? Because crushing tablets can lead to some nasty talc-based microemboli when talc-based tablets are mainlines. I'd just *hate* for that to happen to her...

Dear god. And she's crushing tablets and sticking them into it? Fucksake.

Talc embolism arc when??

She's not injecting crushed pills, as far as I can tell from her incoherent writing. She claims to have had IV ket but I think the crushed pills are going in her GJ tube. That's definitely a Thing, but it's also a good way to irreparably clog the tubing. G tubes can be changed out at home, but a J tube replacement requires a trip to interventional radiology to place the tube using fluoroscopy. If she were...less herself, she would have asked for the liquid formulation and just squirted that into her GJ tube, but I guess that wouldn't require her mother to spend time crushing pills.

Oral racemic ketamine doesn't taste very good (it's very bitter). I almost thought I didn't blame Chelsea for using her tube to administer pills, but then I remembered that she doesn't actually need to be using ketamine at all.

This is such a fun twist that I could never have reasonably predicted!

 

[lolnah]

Coded means your heart stopped and lmao bro I’m intubating the fuck out of someone at that point whether or not they want it.

Not if they've got a valid DNR, you're not, or you'll be changing careers after that.

 

[PinkDancingDogs]

Could this be a place she started with?

 

[Vegetamite]

Her “advocate“ took this.

 

[Smellee Cat]

Her “advocate“ took this.
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So her heart rate is high because she’s faking spasms and generally being a histrionic fat fuck. (Green)

Breaths per minute are high (normal is 12-16) at 33 but see above about being a malingering spasmodic retard. (White)

Oxygen level is completely normal (80-100) at 97 (Blue)

Despite the theatrics, she is getting the perfect amount of O2.

Im not a medfag but I know how to work the google. I’m sure one of our amazing health field farmers would have more insight but what I’m seeing is unremarkable.

 

[GenociderSyo]

She laying it on thick now.

 

[Potato Cat]

Is she using the same O2 mask she was using at home? Is she still inpatient?

 

[Sir Chubbis the Turd]

She laying it on thick now.
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The mask is just sitting on her face, shouldn’t the elastic straps be holding it in place if she needs the oxygen so badly?

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

She laying it on thick now.
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The mask isn’t even on right…

 

[bucketOjibblies]

The mask is just sitting on her face, shouldn’t the elastic straps be holding it in place if she needs the oxygen so badly?

She's also speaking incredibly well for someone so oxygen starved, annunciating every word and borderline shouting.

"I'm getting comfort care only." - isn't that what she was aiming for with hospice? Like, what the fuck does she think hospice is?
She's so passionate with her pleas for life but also equally as passionate about her DNR...everything about her is so absolutely silly, she's one of the few cows that audibly make me laugh.