YABookgate

[OutInTheRain]

I read those Kingkiller books a couple of years and disliked them. I liked the overarching plot, but the what felt like nearly a thousand pages of fantasy busking to pay for wizard school was the most boring, meandering shit. I'm pretty sure the second book has like 300 pages which were a thinly veiled retelling of the first time he got laid. I do feel bad his fans though, 12ish years is a long time to wait, and Rothfuss should be dragged way harder than he is.

 

[JJLiautaud]

The other thing about Rothfuss is that he strikes one as the classic case of someone who wants to be known as a writer rather than be a writer, he just happened to strike gold with his first book.

Other than the striking gold bit he sounds just like a certain blue ribbon pig from Milwaukee.

 

[Flaming Carrot]

When it comes to both Martin and Rothfuss, they (and their readers) need to just accept that the next book in their respective series just isn't happening. I think Martin has two problems. The first is that ASOIAF got too sprawling and almost impossible to finish neatly, and the second is that someone on Reddit appeared to pretty accurately guess the ending of the series.

Martin also doesn't do outlines, and while that worked fine for the short stories and the relatively short stand-alone novels he wrote before Song of Ice and Fire, it obviously doesn't work so well with an enormous six book series with a huge number of characters and plot points to take care of.

As annoying as it is that Martin has not finished his books, David Gerrold has been promising the next book in his War Against the Chtorr series since like 1993 and he still hasn't delivered it.

 

[2525ABC]

I read those Kingkiller books a couple of years and disliked them. I liked the overarching plot, but the what felt like nearly a thousand pages of fantasy busking to pay for wizard school was the most boring, meandering shit. I'm pretty sure the second book has like 300 pages which were a thinly veiled retelling of the first time he got laid. I do feel bad his fans though, 12ish years is a long time to wait, and Rothfuss should be dragged way harder than he is.

One time, I was seriously clinically depressed and basically only getting out of bed to go to the neighborhood library for shitty fantasy books. It was bad. I read the whole of the Belgariad twice. I read whole books by Piers Anthony. I read endless D&D novels and random parts of The Sword of Truth.
The Name of the Wind was so bad it broke me out of the loop. Bedreading was ruined and I started doing stuff and eventually got better.
So in a weird way I owe the guy a lot but fuck that was a terrible book.

 

[Flexo]

One time, I was seriously clinically depressed and basically only getting out of bed to go to the neighborhood library for shitty fantasy books. It was bad. I read the whole of the Belgariad twice. I read whole books by Piers Anthony. I read endless D&D novels and random parts of The Sword of Truth.
The Name of the Wind was so bad it broke me out of the loop. Bedreading was ruined and I started doing stuff and eventually got better.
So in a weird way I owe the guy a lot but fuck that was a terrible book.

"So shit it saved my life" is a quote I would love to see on the cover.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

 

[FuckMeGentlyWithAChainsaw]

One time, I was seriously clinically depressed and basically only getting out of bed to go to the neighborhood library for shitty fantasy books. It was bad. I read the whole of the Belgariad twice. I read whole books by Piers Anthony. I read endless D&D novels and random parts of The Sword of Truth.
The Name of the Wind was so bad it broke me out of the loop. Bedreading was ruined and I started doing stuff and eventually got better.
So in a weird way I owe the guy a lot but fuck that was a terrible book.

 

[Shaneequa]

Hello, I'm looking for beta readers for a YA manuscript.
I figure you guys won't just asspat like most critique circles.
I know I go to KF if I want nuanced and insightful viewpoints from exceptional individuals.
Opsec friendly description is Horror YA + gay (m/m)
Particularly looking for straight guys so i can calibrate the amount of gay.
Send me a message send me a message if you wanna waste some time on a doomed project.

 

[PuddIeduck]

Hello, I'm looking for beta readers for a YA manuscript.
I figure you guys won't just asspat like most critique circles.
I know I go to KF if I want nuanced and insightful viewpoints from exceptional individuals.
Opsec friendly description is Horror YA + gay (m/m)
Particularly looking for straight guys so i can calibrate the amount of gay.
Send me a message send me a message if you wanna waste some time on a doomed project.

Had any bites?

 

[Shaneequa]

Had any bites?

Yeah @Cryptojew gave me some pretty detailed feedback on the first chapter.

 

[Flexo]

Just wanted to say good luck to you. I'd help but I'm super straight so I doubt I'd have any quality feedback.

 

[Hepativore]

One UK "young adult" author that is quite underrated is Diana Wynne Jones. She has been writing books since the early 1970's but has been relatively unheard of outside of the UK with the exception of the anime adaption of her book, Howl's Moving Castle which many people do not know was originally a book.

Her books are interesting enough that it is hard to pigeonhole into the "young adult" category, and she has also written stuff geared towards adults as well. As she died in 2009, she was dead and buried before the wokesplosion happened in many creative spheres, as people would probably be calling her stuff "problematic" because she does not have any trans characters and she does not get political with any of her material.

Everybody should read her book, Archer's Goon, regardless of how old they are.

 

[Kalsarikännit]

Hello, I'm looking for beta readers for a YA manuscript.
I figure you guys won't just asspat like most critique circles.
I know I go to KF if I want nuanced and insightful viewpoints from exceptional individuals.
Opsec friendly description is Horror YA + gay (m/m)
Particularly looking for straight guys so i can calibrate the amount of gay.
Send me a message send me a message if you wanna waste some time on a doomed project.

Straight men reading a gay story? Ambitious, to say the least. I'd be curious to see it though.

 

[Windows 10 Upgrade]

As annoying as it is that Martin has not finished his books, David Gerrold has been promising the next book in his War Against the Chtorr series since like 1993 and he still hasn't delivered it.

I read one of the books when I was 12 and never could find it since, I remember them for their awesome covers mostly, and the plot about guys who could only fight a race of hairy caterpillar aliens with napalm

One UK "young adult" author that is quite underrated is Diana Wynne Jones. She has been writing books since the early 1970's but has been relatively unheard of outside of the UK with the exception of the anime adaption of her book, Howl's Moving Castle which many people do not know was originally a book.

There was one Wizarding High School book that was sadly the kind of template JKR (who MUST at least READ the farms, if not having an account) would eventually turn into a cash-machine. It was like the idea was there to strike gold, and another writer got it. (Oh, and maybe Rothfuss too)

Twitter serving up book drama: (Some of these may have to be googled)

Some of this I know, some I couldn't be bothered because it's not drama at all, but the CoHo one is Colleen Hoover who released a companion coloring book to her lady-trauma IT ENDS WITH US, which is a book about... domestic abuse

"Coloring in a woman's bruises is totally calming" – Colleen Hoover's coloring book drama explained as the author comes under fire​

Alrighty then. DV coloring books seems like an awfully niche area so in this case COLOR ME NOT SURPRISED that people are cancelling it.

 

[Shaneequa]

Straight men reading a gay story? Ambitious, to say the least. I'd be curious to see it though.

I think there's several steps between the implied homoeroticism of The Outsiders or movies like Top Gun and obnoxiously Gay with a capital G novels or other m/m stories obviously written by women for women.

Something that's gay in a way that doesn't require massive amounts of mental gymnastics without being overt and off-putting.

That and I'm so fucking tired of the main conflict always being BIGOTRY or forcing your closeted bf to come out, a trope that's--as the kids say--problematic, punctuated with someone always dying of AIDS at the end.

My unhinged rantings about genre tropes aside, send me a PM if you wanna take a look at it.

 

[Kiwisee]

The fact that there’s a “Book Tok” section at the local bookstore, paired with the most hideous AI looking covered books, has caused my faith in modern literature to dwindle even lower than it already has.

Speaking of bookstores, finding literature on World War One is starting to get harder where I’m from. I had to wait three weeks for a copy of All Quiet on the Western Front because they simply stopped carrying them after it was removed from the high school’s required reading back in 2014 (it was replaced with some memoir written by a black woman in 1960s, according to my niece).

Anyone else here experiencing this?

 

[BaskingBarracuda]

The fact that there’s a “Book Tok” section at the local bookstore, paired with the most hideous AI looking covered books, has caused my faith in modern literature to dwindle even lower than it already has.

Speaking of bookstores, finding literature on World War One is starting to get harder where I’m from. I had to wait three weeks for a copy of All Quiet on the Western Front because they simply stopped carrying them after it was removed from the high school’s required reading back in 2014 (it was replaced with some memoir written by a black woman in 1960s, according to my niece).

Anyone else here experiencing this?

I find wandering around my local book shop to be a depressing experience. The front table is high profile releases, which is increasingly ghostwritten crap pumped out by celebrities/influencers plus a few pieces from already famous authors. Plus the BookTok section you mention. Oh, and the front table always has a handful of Message books to make sure you know White Men Bad. That may be me judging a book by its cover but when you read the blurb you already know what the story is going to be. It’s all so incredibly samey and predictable.

In the back of the shop there’s more variety, but it says it all that the aforementioned is out front.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Where's the lie that Wattpad sucks? Self-published authors sucking is a 50/50 chance (maybe more like 90/10), but there's nothing good about Wattpad. How is that controversial outside of the Zoomer circles?

 

[Mola Ram]

Where's the lie that Wattpad sucks? Self-published authors sucking is a 50/50 chance (maybe more like 90/10), but there's nothing good about Wattpad. How is that controversial outside of the Zoomer circles?

There is good stuff on Wattpad ... but it's almost never successful. The platform celebrates garbage.

 

[Shaneequa]

Where's the lie that Wattpad sucks? Self-published authors sucking is a 50/50 chance (maybe more like 90/10), but there's nothing good about Wattpad. How is that controversial outside of the Zoomer circles?

I published sequentially on Wattpad once. I got maybe 1 view per chapter. Compared to AO3 where per chapter I break 1k views easy.

I also tried out Kindle Vella, Amazon's Wattpad competitor to pretty much the same result. No visibility.