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I liked wattpad for only one thing: the paragraph/sentence comments. Now, I haven't looked into it to see if something like this exists because I'm lazy and haven't needed to until now, but I had the thought that wattpad's design would be perfect for beta reading and would make the platform myself if I knew how.

It'd work like this: You'd have your account, put your text up that's encrypted, generate keys that you give out to your readers to identify and allow them access. Feedback is hidden to everyone but yourself so you don't get contamination but you can allow the comments to be public if you'd like and they'd anonymous unless you turned it off. Maybe once a wave of readers were done you could show what everyone thought. They'd have like highlighting tools in different colours like confusing or boring or exciting or misspelled or whatever along with sentence comments.
 
Flaming Carrot said:
Colbert's a Tolkien fan so it's not unreasonable that he knows about Zelazny. He would have been the right age when the books were being published. He's still probably going to screw it up though.
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My hope (rate me rainbows) that if Colbert can apply the nerdy "quote off the top of his head" Tolkien stuff to another IP then at least he will be able to cleave somewhat to the lore.

I don't know Zelazny's work too well (I keep mixing him up in my head with Samuel Delaney, sigh) but he might be a little more obscure than Rings or even Thrones, and relatively obscure works could be easier to translate to film. There's not this hugely entrenched fandom idea of what the books SHOULD be.

There's other people producing, including the Walking Dead creator in the exectutive produccer role, but it will all come down as to who the showrunners are

Flaming Carrot said:
Zelazny's family is bringing his backlist back to print, and George R.R Martin is producing a HBO series adaptation on his novel Roadmarks. I know Hollywood is looking for science fiction and fantasy series to adapt to recreate the Game if Thrones rating bonanza, so I guess Amber's as good a place to start as any.
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Trying to get "old" works to translate into "new" politics has been a garbage fire with rare and brave exceptions.


KingArthurofBritain said:
Can someone with a little more expertise in the publishing world explain how this works? Wouldn't Mr. Ruocchio already have a contract with DAW. Thus being unable to transfer his Sun Eater series to another publisher and an obvious competitor at that? Or are DAW simply washing their hands of a money maker. (Lord knows I've spent too much money on Ruocchio already, myself.)
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It's such a privilege to be able to continue a series with another publisher. Its technically similar to Amazon picking up The Expanse after they'd been dropped by SyFy.


Commissar Fuklaw said:
It'd work like this: You'd have your account, put your text up that's encrypted, generate keys that you give out to your readers to identify and allow them access. Feedback is hidden to everyone but yourself so you don't get contamination but you can allow the comments to be public if you'd like and they'd anonymous unless you turned it off. Maybe once a wave of readers were done you could show what everyone thought. They'd have like highlighting tools in different colours like confusing or boring or exciting or misspelled or whatever along with sentence comments.
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I recall there's something slightly similar in Google Docs, which was handy when there's a collaborative novel going on.
 
Boston Brand said:
The mad lads at Baen actually pulled off something brilliant.

They just snagged Christopher Ruocchio and the Sun Eater series from the flaming wreckage that used to be DAW.

Baen has been on a roll snapping up the best names from the rapid collapse of St. Martin's and DAW, but Christopher Ruocchio?

One of the most brilliant, based young authors now under a publisher that knows the man will be a rock star.

This is the publishing equivalent of the Hershel Walker trade.
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That's great news! Sun Eater is fucking great! Books 2 and 3 are the best space opera sci fi I've ever read. Book 4 was kind of emotionally devastating, and I've been told that book 5, which I'm about to start on will depress me even more. But the world building is great and I hope he writes more stories in his current setting.

Bur Ruoccio is a fantastic author, and he writes like a machine. I hope he goes on to do great things.
 
Elwood P. Dowd said:
I know this isn't YA, but I had to express my annoyance somewhere about yet another coming turdblossom of a media adaptation or start drinking far too early in the day.

Stephen Colbert Boards Series Adaptation Of Roger Zelanzny’s Sci-Fi Novels ‘The Chronicles Of Amber’

The odd parts being:

  • IIRC the main characters were basically 1960s playas in a Fantasy setting. No fucking way can that translate to the Hollywood of today
  • Who is even familiar with the books at this point? As best I recall I only read the first five or so.
  • How in wide, wide world of sports is Stephen Colbert a fan of them?
  • Is it a Soros tier Bond villain's plan to run through every title in Appendix N and do a shitty media adaptation of it?
Now watch this by some miracle not completely suck. Unlikely but possible. Can't wait to see Corwin the tranny. 🙄

Edit: Stumbled across this gem of a Tweet. 🤮
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I literally only know of Zelanzny because I read the John C Wright "Children of Chaos" trilogy which was apparently tied into (or heavily inspired by - i'm still not sure which) the amber series which was awesome and a lot of fun. I've been meaning to read Zelanzny since then.

Isn't like a pack of cigarettes at one point a major plot element? (I still find it hilarious Hollywood is skittish about depicting smoking.)
 
Boston Brand said:
The mad lads at Baen actually pulled off something brilliant.

They just snagged Christopher Ruocchio and the Sun Eater series from the flaming wreckage that used to be DAW.

Baen has been on a roll snapping up the best names from the rapid collapse of St. Martin's and DAW, but Christopher Ruocchio?

One of the most brilliant, based young authors now under a publisher that knows the man will be a rock star.

This is the publishing equivalent of the Hershel Walker trade.
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Ruocchio is taking a "strictly business" position on him ending his relationship with DAW. Had forgotten, if I ever knew, that he was also an editor at Baen. Weird camera angle, in that his hands look to be as big as his head. 😕
 
Boston Brand said:
The mad lads at Baen actually pulled off something brilliant.

They just snagged Christopher Ruocchio and the Sun Eater series from the flaming wreckage that used to be DAW.

Baen has been on a roll snapping up the best names from the rapid collapse of St. Martin's and DAW, but Christopher Ruocchio?

One of the most brilliant, based young authors now under a publisher that knows the man will be a rock star.

This is the publishing equivalent of the Hershel Walker trade.
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Hasn’t he been working at Baen as an editor for a while?

Edit: late, give me my clocks.
 
I just got a royalties payment notification from Amazon.

I was like "theres no fucking way someone actually paid for that."

I was kinda right, apparently, Amazon Vella sends out "bonuses" to people who publish on their shitty platform, it says it's based on reader interactions (people reading, liking and buying chapters) but they just paid me $32 for something that got 12 views total and at least 6 of those are just me making sure they uploaded right.

So my first instinct is "how do I take advantage of this?"

I don't think its actually based on interactions because that would be almost $3 per someone just scrolling through the first chapter (the first three of which are free) no way that's sustainable with these people on the front page getting almost a million views.

So I'm thinking maybe $32 is like the floor? Anyone who publishes anything on Vella gets $32. That sounds more reasonable. Though I'm curious to see if the bonus increases with more books regardless of whether anyone reads them. That might be a good racket. Too bad I can't test this because the bonus is yearly.
 
Three Gorillion Dollars said:
As far as I'm aware, Vella is pretty much a dead platform that Amazon won't pull the plug on yet. They've been basically paying people to stay on it for a few years at least.

Also, it looks like Gretchen Felker-Martin is taking Twitter shots at Brandon Sanderson.
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Years?

Bro, Vella went live in July 2021.

It hasnt even opened up to anyone outside the U.S. yet.
 
Yeah, and it was DOA. It was the product of a small team that got gutted soon after it launched. Readers hate it (if they even know it exists), authors only make their money via Amazon bonus payments, discoverability is about as bad as KDP. More than that, it itself competes with just doing an ebook on Amazon via Kindle. If people want to read online fiction, then they'll go to one of the established sites, like Royal Road, where they can get the story for free and can donate directly to an author's Patreon to get chapters in advance.
 
That reminds me I need to publish something on RoyalRoad just to test out the discoverability.
Is it still strictly gamelit and fantasy?
 
OutInTheRain said:
That's great news! Sun Eater is fucking great! Books 2 and 3 are the best space opera sci fi I've ever read. Book 4 was kind of emotionally devastating, and I've been told that book 5, which I'm about to start on will depress me even more. But the world building is great and I hope he writes more stories in his current setting.

Bur Ruoccio is a fantastic author, and he writes like a machine. I hope he goes on to do great things.
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I'll say this, the books are very well written and largely entertaining. However, I'm not sure how many more ways Ruocchio can run Marlowe through the emotional and physical thresher. Saying anymore would be a spoiler for what is a good new book.

As a slight aside: does anyone know when the next book in the series will come out? I normally wouldn't be asking such a thing so soon after the last one, but the man's output has been absurdly fast.
 
Three Gorillion Dollars said:
Also, it looks like Gretchen Felker-Martin is taking Twitter shots at Brandon Sanderson.
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Lol Larry Correia is being a nice attack dog for Brando
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JJLiautaud said:
Lol Larry Correia is being a nice attack dog for Brando
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You know Sanderson is well-liked when people like Correia just randomly drop in to tell these idiots to fuck off. Uncancellable is very true, I read an interview with him where he said he intentionally holds back on Hollywood adaptations because he doesn't need the money. I don't read his stuff but he seems like a good guy, this will blow over in a week if he ignores it.
 
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