Battletech - Also known as Trannytech

Balr0g said:
I vote for the death penalty Viola Steiner style
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Capsaicin Addict said:
Wrap him in foil and launch him out of a gauss rifle.
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Nah. We might as well make it fun. Take a factory issue Charger CGR-1A1, remove its arms and all the small lasers, then seal the bastard in the cockpit and put them in a assault tonnage bracket arena on Solaris. Nature will take course from there.
 
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BlackDragoons said:
I really wish Bishop Steiner would just shut the fuck up. No one in the community likes him at all
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He's a complete ass on their Facebook group too. Really hates people that ask for vehicles in plastic for some reason. Like really believes the game should just be mech v mech
 
Bill Elliot said:
He's a complete ass on their Facebook group too. Really hates people that ask for vehicles in plastic for some reason. Like really believes the game should just be mech v mech
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Good thing the next KS is going to have vehicles in it then.
 
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He's a complete ass on their Facebook group too. Really hates people that ask for vehicles in plastic for some reason. Like really believes the game should just be mech v mech
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Wasn't the major factor in Pardoe losing his job was because he was an ass to his critics?
 
BlackDragoons said:
SO found out that the main reason why Ace Kaller (Faith McCloskey) got fired was because he threatened to kill himself in front of the managers children because he didn't get vacation time.
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Aww did the tranny didn't get vay-cay time. He should've done it in front of paying customers and gave them a show.
 
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I've got nothing to say on the recent fiasco except to say that I hope Ace Kaller finds a sturdy length of myomer and a Rifleman soon.
 
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What did i miss? Also is it true that Clanner culture full (according to what I heard on Dice Scum (made by people from here)) of pedophilia and incest in the novels? Like wtf (I played some Mechwarrior games long ago and i definitely don't remember that being in those)
So... uh who where the are/where the least retarded over group/faction in the setting even if only relatively so?
 
Zaryiu2 said:
What did i miss? Also is it true that Clanner culture full (according to what I heard on Dice Scum (made by people from here)) of pedophilia and incest in the novels? Like wtf (I played some Mechwarrior games long ago and i definitely don't remember that being in those)
So... uh who where the are/where the least retarded over group/faction in the setting even if only relatively so?
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Well incest might be a bit exaggerated but usually children of the same genes are put in a group So in essence it is like incest though of course no children will ever be born between trueborns. Also when the sibkos hit puberty they are a"allowed" to explore their desires.

I think in one of the Jade Falcon books the old Falcon warrior Joanna reminisces about the time she trained the sibko of future Falcon hero Aidan Pryde and how she called him and other male trainees over for "night activities". Well this is what happens when you destroy the family culture during the forming of a new society. When nicolas lead his small band to Strana Mechty he needed more children and it began with selective matchmaking (matching according to genetic compatibility not feelings) and couples who produced viable offspring were rewarded with luxuries that were scarce at that time. Anfd then of course we come to the eugenics program Nicolas started at the same time. Some called it "the rocketsled to hell" and obne Mechwarrior wrote in his diary "Someone should have burned Darwin at a stake"
 
Zaryiu2 said:
What did i miss? Also is it true that Clanner culture full (according to what I heard on Dice Scum (made by people from here)) of pedophilia and incest in the novels? Like wtf (I played some Mechwarrior games long ago and i definitely don't remember that being in those)
So... uh who where the are/where the least retarded over group/faction in the setting even if only relatively so?
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I wouldn't know about noncery and incest in the Clans due to not reading the novels as of yet, but I really hope that isn't the case...

As for your question, if you want factions where the majority of the people running them aren't insane (with unavoidable exceptions because crazies are always 'exceptional') the Federated Suns, Clan Wolf (kinda-ish), Clan Ghost Bear and or the Rasalhague Dominion are your best bet. If you feel like playing the underdog in this category, then look up the Taurian Concordat.

If you're okay with 'kind of dysfunctional due to cultural quirks but not malicious intent', Lyran Commonwealth and Free Worlds League are good places to start.
 
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Bass_Ackdwars said:
I wouldn't know about noncery and incest in the Clans due to not reading the novels as of yet, but I really hope that isn't the case...

As for your question, if you want factions where the majority of the people running them aren't insane (with unavoidable exceptions because crazies are always 'exceptional') the Federated Suns, Clan Wolf (kinda-ish), Clan Ghost Bear and or the Rasalhague Dominion are your best bet. If you feel like playing the underdog in this category, then look up the Taurian Concordat.

If you're okay with 'kind of dysfunctional due to cultural quirks but not malicious intent', Lyran Commonwealth and Free Worlds League are good places to start.
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What?

Buddy, they're all fucking insane. That's what keeps the setting going.
 
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Zaryiu2 said:
What did i miss? Also is it true that Clanner culture full (according to what I heard on Dice Scum (made by people from here)) of pedophilia and incest in the novels? Like wtf (I played some Mechwarrior games long ago and i definitely don't remember that being in those)
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Dice Scum loves to picture everybody in BattleTech as paint chip-eating retards, and the Clans doubly so.

What happens is that the higher Clan castes have decoupled sex from reproduction. Canister-born Clan Warriors in particular consider sex to be something done entirely for entertainment and/or bonding purposes, and the concept of someone being born naturally is repulsive to them. Trueborn Warriors from the same genetic batch are raised and trained together in "sibling companies" (or sibkos), and as they come of age they're allowed to mingle with one another. So it's less pedophilia and more like... high-schoolers fucking around with each other. The incest part is correct, though. They're technically all related, even if the concept of brother or sister is alien to them, and there's zero chance of inbreeding. Likewise, the genes of related warriors aren't mixed to make new batches, no matter how good they were, in order to further avoid inbreeding.

That's all only within the Warrior caste, though. Most Clan civilians (and some Warriors) are born and raised naturally, although their marriages are supposed to be approved by the Scientist Caste for genetic compatibility. In practice you still get to marry whoever you want most of the time. And one of the reasons why freeborn (read: not canister-born) Warriors are discriminated against is because they were raised in a completely different environment to the trueborns. You know, with weird things like loving parents and a childhood.

That weirdness aside, though? Clan society is conservative as hell. If you're a civvie you do as you're told, you're expected to produce plenty of children for the Clan (so that's the trannies and genderspecials out of the picture), and if you get caught cucking your partner or being a degenerate you're punished severely. Do not mess with the eugenics program.
 
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White Devil said:
What?

Buddy, they're all fucking insane. That's what keeps the setting going.
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I was trying to give examples of factions that kind of sort of maybe make sense until you actually look below the surface. The ones that have good PR. Should've made that clear. My bad.
 
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Corn Flakes said:
That's all only within the Warrior caste, though. Most Clan civilians (and some Warriors) are born and raised naturally, although their marriages are supposed to be approved by the Scientist Caste for genetic compatibility. In practice you still get to marry whoever you want most of the time. And one of the reasons why freeborn (read: not canister-born) Warriors are discriminated against is because they were raised in a completely different environment to the trueborns. You know, with weird things like loving parents and a childhood.
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One thing to consider: Trueborns are genetically superior as the scientists who create the artifical babies "clean up" the genetic code which results in stronger bodies and better immune systems. Things freeborn children simply don't have. Plus trueborns are offspring of the original founders or members of their Clan. something most freeborn children can't say (unless they are offspring of washed out trueborn cadets)
 
Balr0g said:
One thing to consider: Trueborns are genetically superior as the scientists who create the artifical babies "clean up" the genetic code which results in stronger bodies and better immune systems. Things freeborn children simply don't have. Plus trueborns are offspring of the original founders or members of their Clan. something most freeborn children can't say (unless they are offspring of washed out trueborn cadets)
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Yeah, the Clans aren't doing all those eugenics just for the lulz. The trueborns are actually damn good at what they're meant to do (aerospace phenotype aside, anyway).

But even in the most egalitarian Clans there's always some friction between trueborns and freeborns because their upbringings are so radically different. They still get along for the Clan's sakes, but it's still a learning experience for all involved. Particularly to anyone working with Elementals. If anyone would have reason to see normal humans as puny, it's these 7-feet tall brick shithouses. Who are still as smart as your average Clan Mechwarrior. One wonders just how intense the conditioning for them is, just to keep any potential hubris in check.

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Now that I think about it, Clan society is weirdly Heinleinian. Makes sense, actually. At least some of the writers at FASA must have read Starship Troopers (or... any of his other books, really, the guy had his kinks).
 
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Corn Flakes said:
Yeah, the Clans aren't doing all those eugenics just for the lulz. The trueborns are actually damn good at what they're meant to do (aerospace phenotype aside, anyway).

But even in the most egalitarian Clans there's always some friction between trueborns and freeborns because their upbringings are so radically different. They still get along for the Clan's sakes, but it's still a learning experience for all involved. Particularly to anyone working with Elementals. If anyone would have reason to see normal humans as puny, it's these 7-feet tall brick shithouses. Who are still as smart as your average Clan Mechwarrior. One wonders just how intense the conditioning for them is, just to keep any potential hubris in check.
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Elementals were first meant as cheap labor force for the scientists. Simply doing the manual labor while the scientists do their calculating and experimenting. But then came the Power Armor and that is that (if the rumblings of the society is to be believed.) And the Aerospace phenotype is really something to laugh at. Bred for the best reflexes but getting outplayed by IS fighter pilots (who were even poorer equipped at the beginning of REVIVAL)
 
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