Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[IKOL]

dreamers gonna dream
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He's a literal nobody lol.
And, New Ukraine? Oi go fuck yourself with a bottle cunt.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Why is Putin in Ukraine and what will Russia get if they win and get the clay their asking for?

Russia says it wants a land bridge to Crimea and a demilitarised buffer state in the rump Ukraine. They want another puppet like Belarus. All the talk about nazis is a paper-thin justification for what is, in the end, a simple land-grab. The fact that most of Ukraine's known oil resources are also under the land Russia is claiming as its own is, of course, entirely coincidental.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

He's a literal nobody lol.
And, New Ukraine? Oi go fuck yourself with a bottle cunt.

Such a nobody, Russia gave up 215 Ukrainian PoWs, including Azov soldiers and among them 5 commanders for his ass. Ukraine felt like they were basically robbing Russia at that point and threw in 55 extra vatniks free of charge!
He's a godfather of Putin's daughter, among other things, that doesn't just happen. It indicates close ties, and that's the primary metric by which important positions are distributed in nepotism, and it's rampant in Russia. If you don't believe me, just look at everyone around Putin.
It's entirely possible he was going to be the head of Russia's puppet regime in Ukraine if they managed to remove Zelensky by force like they wanted at the beginning, but luckily failed to.

Go on, continue demonstrating how little you know.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Russia says it wants a land bridge to Crimea and a demilitarised buffer state in the rump Ukraine. They want another puppet like Belarus. All the talk about nazis is a paper-thin justification for what is, in the end, a simple land-grab. The fact that most of Ukraine's known oil resources are also under the land Russia is claiming as its own is, of course, entirely coincidental.

Total coincidence that the land they claim for their own identify ethicnically as Russian too, and that the Ukr govt have been shelling the shit out of them since 2014. Stick to curry pls, world affairs isn't your thing.

 

[Glowie]

It's the 16th dude, where's the 500k mobilisation and closure of the borders that you promised us would happen yesterday?


Mindless Observer living up to his name? Say it isn't so!

Mobilization didn't end in first place, there's constant supply of Mobiks sent to front lines every single day.

Not that would matters, Russian army and Wagner both are drafting from very dregs of society to boot.

It does not help that Russian economy is affected as well and its birth rate which is 1,5
With constant supply of bodies to front lines.

Last thing Kremlin needs is to trigger another exodus of Hundreds of thousands of Russian men who escaped Russia to dodge the draft

Do little homework next time, Russiaboo. Ukraine is Russia's Vietnam, Saigon moment is inevitable or economy crashes completely.

Putin coping

Russian pensioners getting shafted

Mobiks in the field

 

[PrimeRadiant]

Urgh I may regret this;

Why is Putin in Ukraine and what will Russia get if they win and get the clay their asking for?


I’m coming from Comrade Gonzalo “just a clump of cells” Lira Thread and his disaster debate with LazerPig

Gonzalo poses Russias invision as Putin being a humanitarian because 16,000 Ukrainians were being slaughtered by the “regime”.

I personally don’t buy it but I don’t know what else Putin wants, I understood Crimea and costal cities because of trade and stuff. But why these neighboring landlocked regions?

Russia's strategy is simple. Put as much distance between western Europe and Moscow as they can. They cannot tolerate a Ukraine that is allied with NATO on thier borders. Its that simple. Its a major invasion route with no natural barriers.

Imagine if Canada moved towards becoming an ally with China. Would the USA tolerate chinese fighters and cruises missiles based in quebec and southern ontario, literally minutes away from the midwest and eastern seaboard? No. Or how about Chinese naval bases in Halifax harbour? No. They would invade and either annex or more likely, put in a puppet regime.

My guess is Russia will annex everything east of the Dniepr. This gives it a strong natural barrier in the form of the Dniepr between Russia and the West.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Mobilization didn't end in first place, there's constant supply of Mobiks sent to front lines every single day.

Not that would matters, Russian army and Wagner both are drafting from very dregs of society to boot.

It does not help that Russian economy is affected as well and its birth rate which is 1,5
With constant supply of bodies to front lines.

Last thing Kremlin needs is to trigger another exodus of Hundreds of thousands of Russian men who escaped Russia to dodge the draft

Do little homework next time, Russiaboo. Ukraine is Russia's Vietnam, Saigon moment is inevitable or economy crashes completely.

Babe, your claim was that on the 15th of Jan Russia would announce another mobilisation of 500k troops, and they would shut all borders to stop people leaving. It's the 16th now; nothing happened.
Please take your meds and step away from the computer.

 

[Glowie]

Babe, your claim was that on the 15th of Jan Russia would announce another mobilisation of 500k troops, and they would shut all borders to stop people leaving. It's the 16th now; nothing happened.
Please take your meds and step away from the computer.

Russian border closure for fighting age men have been a thing since 2022 with mobile enlistment stations on border crossings

Your thinking is very literal, did you know that?

Borders are effectively closed, deserted are shot on sight and everyone of fighting age is legally required to enlist.

Everything above means that still ongoing and public conscription means that fighting men cannot leave Russia.

Since you don't live in Russia and nowhere near Russia, you wouldn't know this.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

Since you don't live in Russia and nowhere near Russia, you wouldn't know this.

I live in Russia and your claims are absolute bullshit. Please stop making a fool of yourself, your posts are killing me with second-hand cringe.

No, things are far from being all rainbows and roses here. The society is divided, many have left, and the threat of total mobilization hasn't gone anywhere. This does not make your claims any less unhinged.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Don't forget that part of Crimea was the Naval base there and access to the Black and Azov Sea, which was in danger of being NATO controlled if 2014 had it's way

NATO rejected Ukraine’s application in the past.

Putin’s, being the galaxy brain 5D chess player, though, has increased Ukraine’s future NATO chances.

Chessmate, NATO

 

[SilentDuck]

Don't forget that part of Crimea was the Naval base there and access to the Black and Azov Sea, which was in danger of being NATO controlled if 2014 had it's way

In Putin's initial address he said Crimea properly belonged to Russia. Stalin decided to make it part of the region of Ukraine in the 1950s which was still under the USSR.

Watching the anglosphere act like there is no reason why Putin would respond to the West's activities in Ukraine has reset my expectations for public discourse; But at least the boomers, normies, warpigs and liberals are all finally united on something.

 

[IKOL]

*coping and backpedaling*

*cope, backpedaling and shifting goalposts like a faggot*

Congradulations you've just own yourself, ready for pink triangle, subhuman scum?

Such a nobody, Russia gave up 215 Ukrainian PoWs, including Azov soldiers and among them 5 commanders for his ass. Ukraine felt like they were basically robbing Russia at that point and threw in 55 extra vatniks free of charge!

Oh I'm aware of that, doesn't make it him being any significant person in a slightest.
On one thing I would agree though, this exchange was retarded by all possible merits.

He's a godfather of Putin's daughter, among other things, that doesn't just happen.

Again, ties to somebody do not make any person to be significant. Even if he would have been the son of Pope or Jesus Christ himself he's still a nobody for me, I don't know him, his existence doesn't impact my life at any capacity, and overall just a fucking stranger that happened to have some ties to Putin.
I am too have some ties to certail local politicians and businessmen of my city but it doesn't make me a significant person. Same applies to this faggot.

It's entirely possible he was going to be the head of Russia's puppet regime in Ukraine if they managed to remove Zelensky by force like they wanted at the beginning, but luckily failed to.

After all what happened? He will not. Not only that, if what I've heard and read recently happens to be correct, he kept to constantly fuck up whatever he was doing. I don't think such a person would've qualified for the job, not even his connections to high ranks would've helped there.

Go on, continue demonstrating how little you know.

Go keep being smirk retard who thinks looking for any sort of help through google makes you a supreme intellect.

In Putin's initial address he said Crimea properly belonged to Russia. Stalin decided to make it part of the region of Ukraine in the 1950s which was still under the USSR.

Watching the anglosphere act like there is no reason why Putin would respond to the West's activities in Ukraine has reset my expectations for public discourse; But at least the boomers, normies, warpigs and liberals are all finally united on something.

Gorbachev*
Learn some history. Please.

 

[Honeybadger v2]

Russian border closure for fighting age men have been a thing since 2022 with mobile enlistment stations on border crossings

Borders are still open, by the way, and it's 16th already.

Borders are effectively closed, deserted are shot on sight and everyone of fighting age is legally required to enlist.

No.

Everything above means that still ongoing and public conscription means that fighting men cannot leave Russia.

But they leave.

Stop, it's embarassing.

 

[TrulyMan]

Gorbachev*
Learn some history. Please.

One guy tries to make a point by acting all smart and gets the wrong soviet leader.
Then this chum "corrects" him on the same premise of "not knowing history" and gets it wrong again.
It was Khrushchev.
If your posts weren't so void of any humour I'd take it for some advanced trolling but sadly no. Holy shit, stop trying to outmatch each other all the time . The thing is complicated enough without you trying to incorrectly recall out of context factoids you read on Wikipedia to try and make the other side flabbergasted enough to shut up.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/02/27/283481587/crimea-a-gift-to-ukraine-becomes-a-political-flash-point

The point is simply that some guy gave Crimea to some bunch of dudes and now things got rolled back.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Borders are effectively closed, deserted are shot on sight and everyone of fighting age is legally required to enlist.

Citation definitely required, since it's Holholstan that stopped men from leaving.

Since you don't live in Russia and nowhere near Russia, you wouldn't know this.

You don't live in Russia either. I do wonder how you post with all the powerplants that got taken out this weekend though.

Mobilization didn't end in first place, there's constant supply of Mobiks sent to front lines every single day. Not that would matters, Russian army and Wagner both are drafting from very dregs of society to boot.

Mobilization never ended in Russia? OK need the source of this claim, I think you are confusing Ukraine and Russia, since Ukraine is on what, its 15th mobilization?

It does not help that Russian economy is affected as well and its birth rate which is 1,5
With constant supply of bodies to front lines.

Everyone, even in the West, is fuming the Russian economy is doing well despite sanctions, and again, Ukraine has millions of its citizens, 10 million alone in Poland, outside its borders so again, I need proof because clearly you are confusing both countries.

Putin coping

Looks fine to me

Russian pensioners getting shafted

I think the Russian battle mage came out of retirement to be there. Doing a great job too.

Mobiks in the field

Hey, at least the Russians aren't using children. You know what happened to the last warlord who used kids, right?

 

[IKOL]

One guy tries to make a point by acting all smart and gets the wrong soviet leader.
Then this chum "corrects" him on the same premise of "not knowing history" and gets it wrong again.
It was Khrushchev.

oh right, I keep mistake the last two premiers that did fuck all to make Soviet Union any better. My bad indeed.

If your posts weren't so void of any humour I'd take it for some advanced trolling but holy shit, stop trying to outmatch each other all the time . The thing is complicated enough without you trying to incorrectly recall out of context factoids you read on Wikipedia to try and make the other side flabbergasted enough to shut up.

>fresh meat
>dec. 2022
Please do tell more. I'm so aroused by this fresh, pink virgin skin and soaking wet meat.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

I do wonder how you post with all the powerplants that got taken out this weekend though.

How hohols can still post on the internet:

Ukraine imported over 500,000 generators since the beginning of the war, and daddy Musk, for all his controversy, is still sending Starlink terminals, which can run off of a car’s cigarette lighter.

 

[TrulyMan]

oh right, I keep mistake the last two premiers that did fuck all to make Soviet Union any better. My bad indeed.


>fresh meat
>dec. 2022
Please do tell more. I'm so aroused by this fresh, pink virgin skin and soaking wet meat.

Khrushchev wasn't the second to last premier either, just keep digging that hole and maybe you'll end up on the other side at Russia eventually while shoveling past their corpses in the order they were buried. Or you know, take your own advice instead of sounding like a dumb nigger.

I know it feels bad, mmkay. Getting owned by somene with that tag would make me question myself too. But if it makes you feel better I may have been around for a little longer than that. It's just basic opsec to not keep all your eggs in one basket should some faggot decide to take a peek.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

I live in Russia and your claims are absolute bullshit. Please stop making a fool of yourself, your posts are killing me with second-hand cringe.

No, things are far from being all rainbows and roses here. The society is divided, many have left, and the threat of total mobilization hasn't gone anywhere. This does not make your claims any less unhinged.

Well, there have certainly been instances of people being stopped at the border (or not being allowed on trains/planes etc), not allowed to leave, mostly those lucky enough to be on the lists.
As for deserters being shot, that's mostly Wagner's cannon fodder recruited from prisons, so he's not entirely wrong. All kinds of shit happens to regular soldiers refusing to fight though.

All in all, it's likely to get worse before it gets better.

 

[Quindoll]

Urgh I may regret this;

Why is Putin in Ukraine and what will Russia get if they win and get the clay their asking for?


I’m coming from Comrade Gonzalo “just a clump of cells” Lira Thread and his disaster debate with LazerPig

Gonzalo poses Russias invision as Putin being a humanitarian because 16,000 Ukrainians were being slaughtered by the “regime”.

I personally don’t buy it but I don’t know what else Putin wants, I understood Crimea and costal cities because of trade and stuff. But why these neighboring landlocked regions?

In short. It's complicated and I wouldn't take my opinion out of this thread.

For example let's go by Captain Autismo.
"EU offer Ukraine a shit deal including IMF austerity..."

Very nuanced. Very objective. The actual association agreement is over 2000 pages long. Given a large part of it is tariff and duty information.

Regarding finance this entails:

CHAPTER 3
Management of public finances: budget policy, internal control and external audit.

Article 346
Cooperation in the field of management of public finances shall aim at ensuring the development of budget policy and sound systems of public internal control and external audit, on the basis of international standards, and which are compatible with the fundamental principles of accountability, transparency, economy, efficiency and effectiveness.

Article 347
The Parties shall exchange information, experience, best practice and take other actions, in particular on the following:
1. In the area of budget policy:
(a) development of a medium-term budget forecast/planning system;
(b) improvement of programme-targeted approaches in the budget process and analysis of the efficiency and effectiveness of the implementation of budget programmes;
(c) improvement in the exchange of information and experience on planning and execution of the budget and on public debt.
2. In the area of external audit:
— implementation of the International Organisation of Supreme Audit Institutions (INTOSAI) standards and methods as well as exchange of best practices of the EU in the field of external control and audit of public finances, paying particular attention to the independence of the relevant bodies of the Parties;
3. In the area of public internal financial control:
— further developing the public internal financial control system through harmonisation with internationally-agreed standards (Institute of Internal Auditors (IIA), International Federation of Accountants (IFAC), INTOSAI) and methodologies, as well as EU best practice for internal control and internal audit in state bodies;
4. In the area of the fight against fraud:
— improvement of methods aimed at combating and preventing fraud and corruption in the area covered by Chapter 3 of Title V (Economic and Sector Co-operation) of this Agreement, including cooperation between relevant administrative bodies.

The agreement goes over vast topics ranging from:
- Energy cooperation
- Macro-Economic cooperation
- Management of public finances: budget policy, internal control and external audit (See above)
- Taxation
- Statistics
- Environment
- Transport
- Space
- Cooperation in science and technology
- Industrial and enterprise policy
- Mining and metals
- Financial services
- Company law, corporate governance, accounting and auditing
- Information society
- Audio-Visual policy
- Tourism
- Agriculture and rural development
- Fisheries and maritime policies
- Consumer protection
- Cooperation on employment, social policy and equal opportunities
- Public health
- Education, training, and youth
- Culture
- Cooperation in the field of sport and physical activity
- Civil society cooperation
- Cross-Border and regional cooperation
- Participation in european union agencies and programmes
...and a bit more

You can find the deal here in a language of your choice:

EUR-Lex - 22014A0529(01) - EN - EUR-Lex

eur-lex.europa.eu

You might just want to browse a little bit. Maybe you have a personal area of expertise and or an interest in some of the topics and then you can read that section for yourself.

But just calling it shit with IMF austerity is just a dumb take.