Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[SaidNoOneEver]

I just pre-sold nearly $35,000 worth of baseball caps and t-shirts with my brand on them, in a day.

It's $39,398 from 464 backers right now. And no you didn't.

Did you forget that unlike the CG audience people here know how to check shit?

I guess ha ha?

You can say that again!

2023 ALL CAPS COMICS and CG Apparel!

Brand new ALL CAPS COMICS and ComicsGate branded apparel! | Check out '2023 ALL CAPS COMICS and CG Apparel!' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

Here's a 20pg collection of Malin's stick-figure drawings making up 35% of the total backers. Seems like an odd inclusion for an apparel campaign.

Malin's scribble book is still blowing away this other strange piece of apparel listed on the AllCaps Apparel Campaign:

So that's two "books" making up 40% of the total 464 backers of this "CG apparel" campaign accounting for 10% of total revenue. Something is weird with the total backer number too. The two "books" total 182 backers. All the other items total only 157 combined backers (unless I'm counting wrong) so something doesn't add up. I'll try to dig into it deeper a bit later unless someone beats me to it. [EDIT: IGG's numbers REALLY don't add up as you'll see at the very bottom]

TL;DR version: Of 32 apparel items/perks for sale only three have more than 10 backers. How many warehouses do you have again? It takes a bit more space to store thousands of hats and shirts than it does 40-page magazines.

KF is acting up again uploading images so I'll spare everyone 50 screenshots of the other stuff for sale in the campaign (there's a lot).

2023 ALL CAPS COMICS and CG Apparel!

Brand new ALL CAPS COMICS and ComicsGate branded apparel! | Check out '2023 ALL CAPS COMICS and CG Apparel!' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

All 4 beanies: $90
2 backers

AllCaps Beanie A: $25
2 backers

AllCaps Beanie B: $25
5 backers

AllCaps Beanie C: $25
2 backers

AllCaps Beanie D: $25
7 backers

CG Beanie A: $25
4 backers

CG Beanie B: $25
4 backers

CG Beanie C: $25
6 backers

CG Beanie D: $25
1 backer

AllCaps blue hat A: $35
9 backers

AllCaps red hat B: $35
4 backers

AllCaps blue hat B: $35
0 backers

AllCaps red hat A: $35
6 backers

AllCaps yellow hat: $35
9 backers

CG BallCap A: $35
3 backers

CG BallCap B: $35
0 backers

CG BallCap C: $35
3 backers

CG BallCap D: $35
28 backers

CG black Tshirt: $40
11 backers

CG blue Tshirt: $40
4 backers

CG gray Tshirt: $40
5 backers

CG red Tshirt: $40
6 backers

CG Logo black Tshirt: $40
4 backers

CG Logo green Tshirt: $40
5 backers

CG Logo gray Tshirt: $40
1 backer

CG baseball shirt: $40
12 backers

All 4 CG beanies: $90
4 backers

All 4 CGH ballcaps: $130
4 backers

All 5 AllCaps Ballcaps: $160
0 backers

Every AllCaps Caps and Beanies: $240
0 backers

All 9 BaseballCaps: $280
2 backers

Hatmaster all 17 hats: $450
4 backers


That looks like about $8,110 in hats and tshirts sold? How much is it going to cost producing these couple dozen items? How much to store it all until it sells? How long before the *next* 50% off sale on eBay?

 

[9th legion centurion 002]

This is the type of guy who buys cg merch

 

[Greed]

This is the type of guy who buys cg merch

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The fact that someone else took this rather than it being a typical selfie makes it a lot funnier for some reason, as if a researcher managed to capture a rare closeup of a specimen moments before it attacked him. The vaguely confrontational expression and forward-leaning posture really sells it.

 

[Miniluv]

I’m starting to think all these new accounts are the same guy. Cuz they all they seem to think this a pro CG thread.

Why would you think several new accounts (at least two registered the same day) with essentially the same POV that seem to like capitalizing random common nouns and have a problem with your/you're and there/their/they're would be the same person?

 

[chalkyresidue]

I just pre-sold nearly $35,000 worth of baseball caps and t-shirts with my brand on them, in a day.

I guess ha ha?

I look at those perks and all I can think is, no way Frog has a full time assistant managing the logistics of this YouTube channel merch.
All this time Frog is spending negotiating prices for custom printed high end clothing with a zillion different options so as to guarantee teeny tiny print runs is coming at a cost. Cost being the steep expense of his audience’s patience/the movement’s relevance/MY FUCKING OVERDUE He Man funny book.

I don’t see the win here, @FROG. I’m not happy about that, but it is what it is

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

My first reaction is, at least hats and shirts aren't as embarassing as plastic mandollies. Am I going soft?

The extra embarassment of being seen in public with apparel as opposed to toys is moot, for the same reason you won't see anyone in public wearing CG logos: the last CG paypiggies don't go out in public.

@MuppetSlaughter @Twitter Is Cancer @Bad Gateway 502 It's already been explained to you and rejected, so I don't know why I bother, but the reason we're not sucking your cocks or cock, singular? is not because we're too busy sucking Ethans, but because your shit is old. Frog's a grifter? Frogs books are late? Frog shivs his allies in the kidneys? Well yeah. If you even go through this thread and choose random pages, there's a good chance you'll see me a-logging just as hard as you about these things. But when you get over the embarassing breakup period with CG and go read some other shit, it all just becomes business as usual. Stick around long enough and you'll be the ones cringing at the swivel-eyed frogmanbad newbies in this thread.

Or go away and come back when you find Ethans face in a pornshoot behind a pizza parlor, in the deepest depths of pornhub.

I'll leave it up to you to decide whether or not to have a quick tug on your chapped chap, first.

 

[Ike Aim]

The fact that someone else took this rather than it being a typical selfie makes it a lot funnier for some reason

That looks like a booking photo or an Amber/Silver alert for a sped.

Way cooler than being a grown-ass man taking a selfie, but then again pretty much everything is...

JACK Show....Your Time Is Up.

@jonmalin@thatstarwarsgrl@johnnynotbanned@comickelsey@EthanVanSciver@majorchokeout@CAMELOT331@ChrissieMayr

www.youtube.com

 

[The Coon]

It's $39,398 from 464 backers right now. And no you didn't.

Did you forget that unlike the CG audience people here know how to check shit?


You can say that again!

2023 ALL CAPS COMICS and CG Apparel!

Brand new ALL CAPS COMICS and ComicsGate branded apparel! | Check out '2023 ALL CAPS COMICS and CG Apparel!' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

Here's a 20pg collection of Malin's stick-figure drawings making up 35% of the total backers. Seems like an odd inclusion for an apparel campaign.

View attachment 4278342

Malin's scribble book is still blowing away this other strange piece of apparel listed on the AllCaps Apparel Campaign:

View attachment 4278372

So that's two "books" making up 40% of the total 464 backers of this "CG apparel" campaign accounting for 10% of total revenue. Something is weird with the total backer number too. The two "books" total 182 backers. All the other items total only 157 combined backers (unless I'm counting wrong) so something doesn't add up. I'll try to dig into it deeper a bit later unless someone beats me to it. [EDIT: IGG's numbers REALLY don't add up as you'll see at the very bottom]

TL;DR version: Of 32 apparel items/perks for sale only three have more than 10 backers. How many warehouses do you have again? It takes a bit more space to store thousands of hats and shirts than it does 40-page magazines.

KF is acting up again uploading images so I'll spare everyone 50 screenshots of the other stuff for sale in the campaign (there's a lot).

2023 ALL CAPS COMICS and CG Apparel!

Brand new ALL CAPS COMICS and ComicsGate branded apparel! | Check out '2023 ALL CAPS COMICS and CG Apparel!' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

All 4 beanies: $90
2 backers

AllCaps Beanie A: $25
2 backers

AllCaps Beanie B: $25
5 backers

AllCaps Beanie C: $25
2 backers

AllCaps Beanie D: $25
7 backers

CG Beanie A: $25
4 backers

CG Beanie B: $25
4 backers

CG Beanie C: $25
6 backers

CG Beanie D: $25
1 backer

AllCaps blue hat A: $35
9 backers

AllCaps red hat B: $35
4 backers

AllCaps blue hat B: $35
0 backers

AllCaps red hat A: $35
6 backers

AllCaps yellow hat: $35
9 backers

CG BallCap A: $35
3 backers

CG BallCap B: $35
0 backers

CG BallCap C: $35
3 backers

CG BallCap D: $35
28 backers

CG black Tshirt: $40
11 backers

CG blue Tshirt: $40
4 backers

CG gray Tshirt: $40
5 backers

CG red Tshirt: $40
6 backers

CG Logo black Tshirt: $40
4 backers

CG Logo green Tshirt: $40
5 backers

CG Logo gray Tshirt: $40
1 backer

CG baseball shirt: $40
12 backers

All 4 CG beanies: $90
4 backers

All 4 CGH ballcaps: $130
4 backers

All 5 AllCaps Ballcaps: $160
0 backers

Every AllCaps Caps and Beanies: $240
0 backers

All 9 BaseballCaps: $280
2 backers

Hatmaster all 17 hats: $450
4 backers


That looks like about $8,110 in hats and tshirts sold? How much is it going to cost producing these couple dozen items? How much to store it all until it sells? How long before the *next* 50% off sale on eBay?

Shot in the dark here. Maybe it's not adding up due to add-ons not showing up in the tier totals. I have never run a campaign so I don't know if all the add-ons would show up in the numbers on the tiers or if those number are just the people that bought that tier. For example, someone backed the CG beanie A tier, then added on a CG beanie B at checkout. The CG beanie A tier shows a backer, but not on the CG beanie B tier, but in the back end it shows 1 A CG beanie and 1 CG B beanie has been sold. Also, IGG(at least used to) adds the shipping amount to the total campaign money made, so some of that total would be the shipping.

 

[FROG]

(Secret perks on Patreon and YT Channel Members.)

Just ask me.

 

[Yosha]

Respect to Indiegogo for letting a guy, that still hasn't fulfilled 4 campaigns, let open another campaign.

 

[FROG]

We keep fulfilling them! Everyone sees the progress, everyone knows our stuff is top notch. I'll always have half a dozen "unfulfilled" campaigns because I keep fulfilling them and replacing them with new ones.

REIGNBOW THE BRUTE is a hold up, because I overestimated what I could manage with my time, and I doubled the length of REKT PLANET. But I'm 1/3rd of the way thru it too.

And it's great. Just be happy.

 

[Brother Maynard]

Shot in the dark here. Maybe it's not adding up due to add-ons not showing up in the tier totals. I have never run a campaign so I don't know if all the add-ons would show up in the numbers on the tiers or if those number are just the people that bought that tier. For example, someone backed the CG beanie A tier, then added on a CG beanie B at checkout. The CG beanie A tier shows a backer, but not on the CG beanie B tier, but in the back end it shows 1 A CG beanie and 1 CG B beanie has been sold. Also, IGG(at least used to) adds the shipping amount to the total campaign money made, so some of that total would be the shipping.

Shipping looks like it's 8-20 bucks depending on the tier (why it costs $20 to ship 4 hats that weigh probably a couple ounces each is anyone's guess), with roughly 20-25% of the sales total being made up of shipping. So that $41K is probably about $10K in shipping costs. The good news is that if he's ordering from China, hats are cheaper than comics to have made.

The add-on tiers look to be selling better than the public tiers. I'm curious if there is a hidden tier that maybe his mailing list got, and they added on to those. Frog will have to let us all know.

What counts as 'backers' is the initial option chosen. It doesn't account for the add-ons. So the total backer count is currently 506, the Malin pamphlet is 189, and the CF overstock cover is 18. So about 40% of the backer numbers came from people who wanted comic books, and might have also bought a hat as an add on.
Frog has 2 weeks to make this not look like a disaster. After which he'll just stock up and sell his crap on ebay like he always does. Maybe 1000 people on planet earth will get themselves some Comicsgate wearables, and be derided as racist nazi homophobes any time they wear it to a comic shop or convention. Good luck to them.
You'd think that with 5 years or so of Comicsgate fandom, the loyal party members would have shown up for this campaign slightly better than this. After all, Rippa only promoted his comic universe for two years, and got thousands of T-shirts sold on his campaign.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

(Secret perks on Patreon and YT Channel Members.)

Just ask me.

This wasn't true then?

I just pre-sold nearly $35,000 worth of baseball caps and t-shirts with my brand on them, in a day.

I guess ha ha?

 

[The Coon]

Respect to Indiegogo for letting a guy, that still hasn't fulfilled 4 campaigns, let open another campaign.

Well this is a special campaign. The profits from this CG merch are going to be used for legal fees to peg Preston and punish him for trying to steal the comicsgate trademark from  frog the loyal and faithful masses of CG. It is in no way being used as a money grab and shoring up the comicsgate trademark claim for frog and his business by producing products with the trademark on it. Frog is only doing this for the people of CG. Never let a good crisis go to waste.

 

[Captain Manning]

Frog be Frog

At this is anyone giving him money a victim?

Pfffft. Fuck no. Unless you've been cloistered in a Tibetan monastery since 2017, I think it's fair to say that everybody has been been put on notice by now as to how CG operates,

In fact, dare I say, you gotta have a certain amount of grudging admiration for FROG. Whatever his other failings, his grift game is on point. I think out of all the CG personalities, FROG should probably be mocked the least, but also studied the most. Dissected like a frog, if you will. There's some graduate student at some university right now that could write a entire doctoral dissertation on Comicsgate. It would be entitled Hashtag Herd Mentality: Emergent Financial Sector and Sign of Impending Societal Doom.

No, the idiots that keep giving him money, and believing the tripe that CG is a force to be reckoned with in the "culture wars," are far more worthy of mockery than FROG himself. It's like Obi-Wan said, "Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

The next most pathetic group is the people that react with indignation and outrage that a fool and his money are soon parted. There's new people in this thread wondering why the discussion isn't centered around late books and whatnot.

To these people I say: Hello! Welcome to KiwiFarms! Guess what? It's been discussed to death. He keeps doing it because it works. Nobody here seems to know why, but it does. Merely mentioning it provides no new insight into the phenomenon. I think the thread largely moved beyond "late books" out of sheer fatigue and frustration.

Understand, I am not saying FROG shouldn't catch shit. I'm just saying it's understandable to me why the pro and antis that orbit him seem to catch more. To me, at least, some of them are way more hilarious than the pie man himself. It's why this thread isn't entirely EVS related.

My first reaction is, at least hats and shirts aren't as embarassing as plastic mandollies. Am I going soft?

I dunno, but I personally chose not to give him too much shit for the apparel campaign for one very simple reason.

Preston Poulter lost the trademark case. FROG owns the CG TM outright. Peggy is fucking SEEETHING at the sight of FROG's latest grift and the money rolling in. Peggy is the reason he's doing it in the first place.

It's making me feel warm and fuzzy inside, so you know what? I'm just gonna give this one to FROG. He earned this dab.

 

[FROG]

This wasn't true then?

There's a secret ComicsGate Hoodie that you can only back if you are a Patreon member.

There's a secret ComicsGate Baseball Cap that you can only back if you are a YouTube Channel Member.

They aren't visible on the campaign to people who aren't subscribed to one of those things. And since Patreon members and YT Channel members are my biggest fans, the secret perks are the most purchased items on the campaign.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

There's a secret ComicsGate Hoodie that you can only back if you are a Patreon member.

There's a secret ComicsGate Baseball Cap that you can only back if you are a YouTube Channel Member.

They aren't visible on the campaign to people who aren't subscribed to one of those things. And since Patreon members and YT Channel members are my biggest fans, the secret perks are the most purchased items on the campaign.

The secret hat and hoodie only available to Patreon or YT subs has sold 5x the entire public IGG campaign? $27k worth?

No they didn't. Just take the L and say you were exaggerating.

 

[FROG]

The secret hat and hoodie only available to Patreon or YT subs has sold 5x the entire public IGG campaign? $27k worth?

No they didn't. Just take the L and say you were exaggerating.

????????

I don't know what you're talking about. Here's what I'm saying to you. If you're trying to add up what this campaign has earned based on the numbers you see under the perks, you aren't going to figure it out. First, because Add Ons don't tally up there, and almost every order is an Add On.

Second, because there are secret perks. A hoodie that is $60 which has sold 52 pieces, and a ballcap that is $35 that has sold 81 pieces.

What else is the problem here?

 

[Captain Manning]

A hoodie that is $60 which has sold 52 pieces, and a ballcap that is $35 that has sold 81 pieces.

Ignore the haters, FROG.

I, for one, hope you sell many many MANY CG-branded hoodies.

I don't believe one Cyberfrog comic sold = one crying SJW. That's bullshit. Nothing in CG is moving the needle in the "culture wars."

However, I would very much like to believe that one trademarked CG hoodie sold = one additional piece of furniture that Preston throws through a window or against a wall in rage.

And if my peers on this thread aren't satisfied with that, well... they can also think of a CG clothing as "idiot identification." There's flip sides to most developments. They just gotta look for it and not always be so blackpilled.

Hell, I'd buy something, except I value the idea of going out in public and not having to explain an Internet hashtag and then being laughed at.

 

[Brother Maynard]

????????

I don't know what you're talking about. Here's what I'm saying to you. If you're trying to add up what this campaign has earned based on the numbers you see under the perks, you aren't going to figure it out. First, because Add Ons don't tally up there, and almost every order is an Add On.

Second, because there are secret perks. A hoodie that is $60 which has sold 52 pieces, and a ballcap that is $35 that has sold 81 pieces.

What else is the problem here?

Will this campaign go into InDemand ad nausea or is the two weeks over and out? I'd be curious to see if the usual 1/3 first day, 1/3 during campaign, 1/3 last day metric you often tout tracks, which would bring you somewhere between 12-1500 backers. So about 1/10th of your usual backer base. (although RTB did less than 4K backers, so maybe you're getting a bigger % of the fans you have left who will buy all your crap).