ExpressVPN: The VPN Empire Built By Intelligence Agents - Gayops?

[murdered meat bag]

That's still viable in the present day? I'm ashamed to admit I never had any experience with Usenet myself, so I'd be interested to know how feasible it is to keep relying on it now.

depends what youre looking for. everyone obfuscates their uploads so youd need to get an index membership and a usenet account whivh are all vectors of tracing back to you.

new stuff is almost always available. but older stuff may or may not be and youll have to dig through a few indexers to get foreign media.

the best part is speed. bad part is it costs actual money.

 

[Slobber Mutt]

>most TOR-appropiate VPN is built and managed by intelligence agents

 

[Drkinferno72]

Never trust a vpn advertised by a YouTuber

 

[Dante Alighieri]

If every VPN that sponsors a youtuber is bad, then what is a good VPN to use?

Seconding Mullvad. Payable by crypto and cash, asks for nothing. 5 Euro a month, period.

 

[Liber Pater]

If every VPN that sponsors a youtuber is bad, then what is a good VPN to use?

Mullvad is good and is what I used to use, but they don't accept XMR directly. You would have to convert your XMR to BCH or BTC first.
Nowadays, I use IVPN because they have the features I liked about Mullvad but with the ability to pay directly with XMR.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

A lot of sites just flat out block TOR these days though. Even completely mundane sites.

Some sites even block VPNs from being used, so you have to go on them naked. NY.gov is one example. Their department of labor site has this thing called Okta built into it where if you try to sign in with your VPN turned on it'll just "NOPE" you out of it and tell you to turn that shit off.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Some sites even block VPNs from being used, so you have to go on them naked. NY.gov is one example. Their department of labor site has this thing called Okta built into it where if you try to sign in with your VPN turned on it'll just "NOPE" you out of it and tell you to turn that shit off.

Sometimes you can bypass those by using a VPN that isn't exactly a VPN, such as piping a connection through a seedbox. A lot of them are just using blacklists of common VPNs. Not sure if that's the case for this one though.

The worst one I've seen is 4chan. I have no idea what detection method they use, but they're psychotically paranoid about what is and isn't a VPN. It's more than just an ASN/IP blacklist.

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

Express used to be one of the best vpns in China but they’ve gone to complete fucking horseshit this year. I’ve complained to them multiple times that their goddamn piece of shit VPN doesn’t work and they still refuse to refund me.


If you live in a highly restrictive country that is heavy on censorship the best bet is Astrill. Yes, it’s expensive, but I guess stop being poor.

 

[whogoesthere]

I always felt a VPN is a false sense of security, and peoples understand of security is fucking shit anyway.

If you are hiding from advertising and the ever increasing surveillance capitalism, then a VPN is not much use. You need to understand how they track, and it will involve you modifying your actions. Like not openly talking about your personal details on public webforums, using non-descript email accounts with only a single use to cover any leaks, not to mention outright avoiding things like gmail or facebook. My point is a VPN can still expose you quite easily, they moved on from strict IP tracking years ago. They still make use of it, but its not the only tool nor the more effective ones. Sadly they moved on past that being the only choice a long time ago.

If you want to hide from government and law enforcement agencies, well a VPN has little use at all. If you piss the state off enough, they can mount a formidable amount of pressure on a corporation. Remember when WikiLeaks fucking ripped a hole in the fabric of diplomacy? yeah they might of the USA, European Nations and a handful of others all of a sudden bore that fucker into nothingness. They fucking run most of South America, a personal black slush fund for the CIA to exert Western Power across the globe. You really think some fucking Swedish startup from some sensative lads is going to hold up against that fucking beast? No chance. You are on your own and thats for the best anyway.

I mean already in this thread, people have spoken about how many VPNs are likely honeypots or in somewhat compromised, and I am sure some are. You can never tell which. The western intelligence apparatus really is something to behold.

Strangely, the best way to be online is as little as you can. As a fat Soprano might say "no more fucking phones, everything we do is face to face and no more fucking talking on phones. Feds could be listening"

 

[Aidan]

@whogoesthere You said it basically doesn't matter but ignore the benefits. It's a net positive for most people, at the very least you hamper your own ISP spying on you and selling this data, which they do.

It's not the end all, be all that the youtube ads like to present but it's not a bad thing and there are many potential benefits if used properly. VPNs aren't a false sense of security, people just misunderstand them.

 

[whogoesthere]

@whogoesthere You said it basically doesn't matter but ignore the benefits. It's a net positive for most people, at the very least you hamper your own ISP spying on you and selling this data, which they do.

It's not the end all, be all that the youtube ads like to present but it's not a bad thing and there are many potential benefits if used properly. VPNs aren't a false sense of security, people just misunderstand them.

Oh I agree they have a use, I was more on the point that many people seem to think they do much more than they do, and it gives them a flase sense of security. Its an aspect of privacy, one of the tools you can use, but its not the only part.

How many people who use a VPN still log into social media, no cookie management, continue to post personal information and basically leave a huge fingerprint on the internet. All they are doing by using a VPN is letting the tracking systems know they are in the market for privacy related products.

 

[Aidan]

True but that boils down to general tech illiteracy and you won't change that. I still think it's better for the layman to use a VPN than not.

People who care about privacy, including criminals, should be doing more if they don't want to be tracked.

 

[White Devil]

I always felt a VPN is a false sense of security, and peoples understand of security is fucking shit anyway.

If you are hiding from advertising and the ever increasing surveillance capitalism, then a VPN is not much use. You need to understand how they track, and it will involve you modifying your actions. Like not openly talking about your personal details on public webforums, using non-descript email accounts with only a single use to cover any leaks, not to mention outright avoiding things like gmail or facebook. My point is a VPN can still expose you quite easily, they moved on from strict IP tracking years ago. They still make use of it, but its not the only tool nor the more effective ones. Sadly they moved on past that being the only choice a long time ago.

If you want to hide from government and law enforcement agencies, well a VPN has little use at all. If you piss the state off enough, they can mount a formidable amount of pressure on a corporation. Remember when WikiLeaks fucking ripped a hole in the fabric of diplomacy? yeah they might of the USA, European Nations and a handful of others all of a sudden bore that fucker into nothingness. They fucking run most of South America, a personal black slush fund for the CIA to exert Western Power across the globe. You really think some fucking Swedish startup from some sensative lads is going to hold up against that fucking beast? No chance. You are on your own and thats for the best anyway.

I mean already in this thread, people have spoken about how many VPNs are likely honeypots or in somewhat compromised, and I am sure some are. You can never tell which. The western intelligence apparatus really is something to behold.

Strangely, the best way to be online is as little as you can. As a fat Soprano might say "no more fucking phones, everything we do is face to face and no more fucking talking on phones. Feds could be listening"

Look man, I just wanna pirate movies.