Ben Shapiro / The Daily Wire - Commentator, Lawyer, Writer, WAP Sommelier, Vanquisher of SJWs, Podcast Host, Mara Wilson's cousin

The whole thing is shockingly unprofessional on Crowder's part. It's going to hurt his ability to make deals going forward, IMO. People swap these offer/term sheets with an expectation that they will be kept quiet, if not down right confidential. Nobody want's a public sperg out over their initial offer, and that's going to make it pretty hard to even get those initial offers in the future.
How hard is it anymore to talk about this shit behind closed doors, and if things break down, you  dont make a shitshow out of it and you still act professional like a fucking  adult. I have seen my fellow welders, barely adults, get nailed in the eye with fucking steel, get anesthetic injected in their eye, and they bitched less than this, and they had every right to. Ben is Jewish, yes, the fuck you expect Crowder?
 
I understand Crowder on saying that it is bullshit that the initial offer included shit about being monetized on Youtube when they clearly knew who they were talking to. That sounds like a lack of care, but from what JB said, it was just some shit they through together to get negotiations started because Crowder's manager went on diva mode and didn't make any initial demands.

"Just take my model and scale it" is sort of hard to swallow because "then fucking do it" which might be what he ends up doing.

I do think the wage slaves comment is bullshit if you are referring to your own talent, but at the end of the day it's just words.

Say whatever you want but I will stick to my assertion that Crowder's manager might have played a big part on all this gay shit coming out and being so retarded. Why not make some demands straight up? You know that the guy you are working for HAS some very specific way he likes to work and like things done.
How hard is it anymore to talk about this shit behind closed doors, and if things break down, you  dont make a shitshow out of it and you still act professional like a fucking  adult. I have seen my fellow welders, barely adults, get nailed in the eye with fucking steel, get anesthetic injected in their eye, and they bitched less than this, and they had every right to. Ben is Jewish, yes, the fuck you expect Crowder?
As a cnc machinist, I cut the pad off my finger tip because it was faster to slap the vise handle to tighten it than spin it manually, and my finger hit a shim I couldn’t see cause it was covered in coolant.

In the space of five minutes, I had to tourniquet my finger and squeeze the blood out of it so it would get dry enough for superglue to set, glue the pad back on, use masking tape to wrap it tight and then duct tape a latex glove over it.

The biggest thing I was afraid of was if my production sheet would show the time lost.

Yeah these people are all faggots who don’t work for real. At least most of them aren’t trying to convince me to feel bad for them because they turned down $50 million
 
How hard is it anymore to talk about this shit behind closed doors, and if things break down, you  dont make a shitshow out of it and you still act professional like a fucking  adult. I have seen my fellow welders, barely adults, get nailed in the eye with fucking steel, get anesthetic injected in their eye, and they bitched less than this, and they had every right to. Ben is Jewish, yes, the fuck you expect Crowder?
How about nope?
First, we need the drama.
Second, DW should burn and crash for being a gatekeeping org.
Third, we should have as much data as possible about scummy corporate shenanigans.
Fourth, your welder fellows should fucking get rich off those injuries and band together to bully their employers and keep them in check at all times.
yes yes you should get praise for being a manly man and not crying when you hurt your pinkie
Now that this is clarified, how about you do the other manly thing and make sure nobody gets too rich off your labor.
 
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As a cnc machinist, I cut the pad off my finger tip because it was faster to slap the vise handle to tighten it than spin it manually, and my finger hit a shim I couldn’t see cause it was covered in coolant.

In the space of five minutes, I had to tourniquet my finger and squeeze the blood out of it so it would get dry enough for superglue to set, glue the pad back on, use masking tape to wrap it tight and then duct tape a latex glove over it.

The biggest thing I was afraid of was if my production sheet would show the time lost.

Yeah these people are all faggots who don’t work for real. At least most of them aren’t trying to convince me to feel bad for them because they turned down $50 million
Brother I feel that in my soul. And you just suck it up because your livelihood is on the line. When was the last time any of these fucks that just talk politics all day have to deal with that?

And as for the money. 50 million will have a man set for life. It may have been a raw deal given the scale, but it's still a shit ton of cash I'm never going to be given the chance to touch.
 
Crowder registered “stopbigcon” on 12/12/22
Didn't he open his coming out vid by basically saying he was mulling over this for a while and really didn't want to do this? I believe that he's being genuine, even if we accept the possibility that he misunderstood their intentions (he didn't). He thinks he's exposing corpos who's selling out the conservative movement, and I don't think he's wrong.
He thought they were like him, willing to sacrifice money for the cause, but it ended up being the other way around. So he thought he had to do something about it, despite personal connections.
He never struck me as greedy. Somewhat bisexual, perhaps, but not greedy. He's doing this because he thinks it's the right thing to do.
 
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Brother I feel that in my soul. And you just suck it up because your livelihood is on the line. When was the last time any of these fucks that just talk politics all day have to deal with that?

And as for the money. 50 million will have a man set for life. It may have been a raw deal given the scale, but it's still a shit ton of cash I'm never going to be given the chance to touch.
I wouldn’t even be mad if he got it, but I hate that he initially held back the number
Didn't he open his coming out vid by basically saying he was mulling over this for a while and really didn't want to do this? I believe that he's being genuine, even if we accept the possibility that he misunderstood their intentions (he didn't). He thinks he's exposing corporos who's selling out the conservative movement, and I don't think he's wrong.
He thought they were like him, willing to sacrifice money for the cause, but it ended up being the other way around. So he thought he had to do something about it, despite personal connections.
He never struck me as greedy. Somewhat bisexual, perhaps, but not greedy. He's doing this because he thinks it's the right thing to do.
Then he’s been retarded this whole time.

Can you explain to me why he had his agent contact the Daily Wire to solicit an offer in October when he wasn’t announcing he was leaving The Blaze until mid December, and why would he solicit another contract, through an agent no less, in the first place instead of keeping his mug club bucks for himself?
 
Don't forget Alex Jones.
Crowded Trump Jones Alliance vs SShapiro Kanye Ashkenazi Axis.
But that would put Shapiro on the same side as Nick Fuentes. I don't see Nick Fuentes on DW's side nor on Crowder's side. Would we have a 3rd, younger and retarded, front?
 
But that would put Shapiro on the same side as Nick Fuentes. I don't see Nick Fuentes on DW's side nor on Crowder's side. Would we have a 3rd, younger and retarded, front?
Don't know much about Fuentes, but I'd bet he'd sell for anything.
Kanye definitely would, he needs the money and DW has a solid mil to spare now.
 
How about nope?
First, we need the drama.
Second, DW should burn and crash for being a gatekeeping org.
Third, we should have as much data as possible about scummy corporate shenanigans.
Fourth, your welder fellows should fucking get rich off those injuries and band together to bully their employers and keep them in check at all times.
yes yes you should get praise for being a manly man and not crying when you hurt your pinkie
Now that this is clarified, how about you do the other manly thing and make sure nobody gets too rich off your labor.
He got fair compensation for a freak accident, company took care of it; what you're suggesting would get you fucking blacklisted. The trades aren't white-collar where you can pull that bullshit. People get hurt, what matters is that you nut up and not be a bitch.

As for the drama- its fucking stupid garbage that should have been handled in a board room. This is what you so desperately crave, trash tier content? No one is winning here. Ben looks like a total jew, Crowder gets blacklisted, everyone gets nuked.
 
Brother I feel that in my soul. And you just suck it up because your livelihood is on the line. When was the last time any of these fucks that just talk politics all day have to deal with that?

And as for the money. 50 million will have a man set for life. It may have been a raw deal given the scale, but it's still a shit ton of cash I'm never going to be given the chance to touch.
Until you start counting expenses for production itself to salaries and medical insurance that DW wasn't going to cover (that's over 4 years, mind you), along with the fact that they would be the one owning his merch and everything he creates henceforth, including email list so he would have to rebuild Mug Club or its equivalent from scratch after he leaves, just like he finds himself doing now. That's not counting all the rest of the bullshit.
One would think they'd try to skip the part where they're trying to fuck him over if they thought of him as a friend.

People talk about negotiations with the presumption that they would've been willing to compromise in the first place. Maybe they would've, but we aren't going to find out since he reacted how he did, and most importantly he even recorded their CEO straight up admitting that they're punishing their creators on behalf of media platforms like it's a given, which is everything you need to know they're compromised, really. We all fucking know what happens when people go against the accepted narrative on these platforms.

I get it that they're in the business of making money and would rather do that than suck it up for the sake of fighting the fight or adapt to not be at the mercy of these platforms, but it seems that Crowder naively thought it would be the latter with them until they approached him with their offer and conditions therein.
The proposition is thus: DW - Money > Values / Crowder - Money < Values
Then he’s been retarded this whole time.

Can you explain to me why he had his agent contact the Daily Wire to solicit an offer in October when he wasn’t announcing he was leaving The Blaze until mid December, and why would he solicit another contract, through an agent no less, in the first place instead of keeping his mug club bucks for himself?
It's not entirely clear to me who reached whom first, I would imagine DW was just one of the many either way, it's not that important. His hesitation could just as well be explained by his temperament.
Mug Club has to be rebuilt now, all these people signed up to BlazeTV through him, and they didn't bother to keep track of who that was (likely deliberately, but either way because of this he's going to have issues reaching them). Likely he didn't want to do it and assumed DW has it all already figured out, so he might as well just roll with his bros there, but he got what he got instead. He expected a company that built a network resistant to the pressure from big tech, just to find out they would rather enforce their policies for the sake of profit.

It's all assumptions on my part, but I think my assessment is fair. I know it's popular to shit on Crowder because he's somewhat flamboyant and whatnot, but I think he's at least authentic.
I used to watch DW, even Shapiro, and sometimes it was entertaining, it's good background noise. I stopped eventually because they started sounding like milquetoast establishment republicans, and that's just boring if anything. Oh, and the fucking ads every 5 minutes.
Maybe in the end DW is a net good for the conservative movement despite the compromises they're making, I dunno. It's a slippery slope if anything.
Just to show where I stand on the two and where I'm coming from.
 
As for the drama- its fucking stupid garbage that should have been handled in a board room. This is what you so desperately crave, trash tier content? No one is winning here. Ben looks like a total jew, Crowder gets blacklisted, everyone gets nuked.
Ben is a total Jew. Ben's shenanigans have created more anti-Semitism than 100 public barmitzvahs inside the White House would. He literally spent hours and hours droning about the threat of white supremacy and alt right w/e, he consistently attacked any attempts to leave the Republicuck plantation. He is a pink hair destroying manlet, but he would never debate even a Jewish friendly actual right winger like Jared Taylor. Hell, he has cucked out of debates with leftoids like Secular Talk. And called Andrew Neal or w/e a leftist lol.
He has made probably hundreds of hours of content crying about identity politics, yet he literally relies on Jewish idpol each and every time something that's Jewish-critical happens.
It's rare to see such a stereotypical Jewish nerd in the wild, with all the drama and historical holo-trauma embossed deep into their character.
Not only he doesn't like whites organizing the same way Jews do, he also fears Christians doing that. Beyond parody.
Oh, and he failed to make a clear point on trannies against famed astronauticalified nignog DeGrasse Tyson, even though indeed his waifu is a medic and he's 110% intelligent enough to easily dunk on the fat nignog that lied all the way through the "debate" and made a mockery out of science just to protecc muh holy minority under attaq from rabid far right chuds.
Crowder isn't that important either and if he gets blacklisted, great, he'll hopefully spill even more beans on cuckservatism and make even more idiots angry.
This is NOT trash tier content.
We need cuckservatards to be bullied from the right until they stop lying.
Cheers!
 
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But that would put Shapiro on the same side as Nick Fuentes. I don't see Nick Fuentes on DW's side nor on Crowder's side. Would we have a 3rd, younger and retarded, front?
After some initial hesistance, Fuentes is full on backing Crowder now.
 
I'm not sure what Crowder is really expecting here. DW is notorious and meme worthy for its ad reads. Top Jew Ben himself has made jokes about it with Crowder. I have no idea why it was some shocking surprise he would have to read ads on air if he was to go with DW. I get that Crowder feels like he is Jesus on the Cross, but he needs to get off of it. Look, if you are so smart you are telling people how to run things (lol, (()) in particular), maybe you should just go off on your own? Tim Pool is a fag, but he did say that DW did ask him about signing on, he didn't like the terms and that was the end of it. It is obviously a grift then that Tim will have Steven on to talk about how he was nailed to a cross. I understand 100% that Big Tech is a globohomo problem, but it seems like DW is trying to move away from it in a calculated way instead of a fuck you kind of way. They have a billionaire who owns them and apparently that person hates at least the LGBTQBBQ agenda, but has a head for business.

Crowder says he knows what he is doing. OK, fine, put your money where your mouth is, or shut up. I don't mind him beyond he has some ax to grind with Catholics and now this apparently.
 
Until you start counting expenses for production itself to salaries and medical insurance that DW wasn't going to cover (that's over 4 years, mind you), along with the fact that they would be the one owning his merch and everything he creates henceforth, including email list so he would have to rebuild Mug Club or its equivalent from scratch after he leaves, just like he finds himself doing now. That's not counting all the rest of the bullshit.
One would think they'd try to skip the part where they're trying to fuck him over if they thought of him as a friend.

People talk about negotiations with the presumption that they would've been willing to compromise in the first place. Maybe they would've, but we aren't going to find out since he reacted how he did, and most importantly he even recorded their CEO straight up admitting that they're punishing their creators on behalf of media platforms like it's a given, which is everything you need to know they're compromised, really. We all fucking know what happens when people go against the accepted narrative on these platforms.

I get it that they're in the business of making money and would rather do that than suck it up for the sake of fighting the fight or adapt to not be at the mercy of these platforms, but it seems that Crowder naively thought it would be the latter with them until they approached him with their offer and conditions therein.
The proposition is thus: DW - Money > Values / Crowder - Money < Values

It's not entirely clear to me who reached whom first, I would imagine DW was just one of the many either way, it's not that important. His hesitation could just as well be explained by his temperament.
Mug Club has to be rebuilt now, all these people signed up to BlazeTV through him, and they didn't bother to keep track of who that was (likely deliberately, but either way because of this he's going to have issues reaching them). Likely he didn't want to do it and assumed DW has it all already figured out, so he might as well just roll with his bros there, but he got what he got instead. He expected a company that built a network resistant to the pressure from big tech, just to find out they would rather enforce their policies for the sake of profit.

It's all assumptions on my part, but I think my assessment is fair. I know it's popular to shit on Crowder because he's somewhat flamboyant and whatnot, but I think he's at least authentic.
I used to watch DW, even Shapiro, and sometimes it was entertaining, it's good background noise. I stopped eventually because they started sounding like milquetoast establishment republicans, and that's just boring if anything. Oh, and the fucking ads every 5 minutes.
Maybe in the end DW is a net good for the conservative movement despite the compromises they're making, I dunno. It's a slippery slope if anything.
Just to show where I stand on the two and where I'm coming from.
If it’s not immediately clear to you who contacted who first, that’s because you’re not listening to anyone outside of the Crowder camp.

The fact that he was leaving The Blaze was not public knowledge back in October, so DW only knew because Crowder’s agent solicited them to make an offer.

Steve wasn’t too mad to contribute to DW’s election night coverage, and since November comes AFTER October, that seems pretty snaky. So does secretly recording setup calls.

And for fucks’ sake, if DW says “this is what we can afford to pay you,” if it’s not enough then move the fuck on. DW is worth about $150 million in its entirety, and Crowder wanted a deal worth $120 million.
 
Ben is a total Jew. Ben's shenanigans have created more anti-Semitism than 100 public barmitzvahs inside the White House would. He literally spent hours and hours droning about the threat of white supremacy and alt right w/e, he consistently attacked any attempts to leave the Republicuck plantation. He is a pink hair destroying manlet, but he would never debate even a Jewish friendly actual right winger like Jared Taylor. Hell, he has cucked out of debates with leftoids like Secular Talk. And called Andrew Neal or w/e a leftist lol.
He has made probably hundreds of hours of content crying about identity politics, yet he literally relies on Jewish idpol each and every time something that's Jewish-critical happens.
It's rare to see such a stereotypical Jewish nerd in the wild, with all the drama and historical holo-trauma embossed deep into their character.
Not only he doesn't like whites organizing the same way Jews do, he also fears Christians doing that. Beyond parody.
Oh, and he failed to make a clear point on trannies against famed astronauticalified nignog DeGrasse Tyson, even though indeed his waifu is a medic and he's 110% intelligent enough to easily dunk on the fat nignog that lied all the way through the "debate" and made a mockery out of science just to protecc muh holy minority under attaq from rabid far right chuds.
Crowder isn't that important either and if he gets blacklisted, great, he'll hopefully spill even more beans on cuckservatism and make even more idiots angry.
This is NOT trash tier content.
We need cuckservatards to be bullied from the right until they stop lying.
Cheers!
Ok he is big nosed jew that wants to pave over Palestinian. And? So do the rest of them, you salty euro! I'll admit he's a dumbass that should be made fun of. Not like this. This is destroying shit and doing what the left wants.
 
Crowder isn't that important either and if he gets blacklisted, great, he'll hopefully spill even more beans on cuckservatism and make even more idiots angry.
This is NOT trash tier content.
We need cuckservatards to be bullied from the right until they stop lying.
Cheers!
How can we be so sure then blacklisting Crowder will not create a Streisand effect?

Some commenters on Unz imagined a new term: Cohn-servatives.
 
Ok he is big nosed jew that wants to pave over Palestinian. And? So do the rest of them, you salty euro! I'll admit he's a dumbass that should be made fun of. Not like this. This is destroying shit and doing what the left wants.
This is the important part. Good job on all conservatives for completely shitting the bed from September 2022 to fucking February 2023. We all make fun of Biden for being total fuck up but holy shit Republicans really are masters at sinking below their opponents when the situation calls for it.
 
Crowder registered “stopbigcon” on 12/12/22
He registered a website? HE PAID LIKE A COUPLE HUNDRED TO REGISTER A WEBSITE??
Oh shit, you fucking got him.

That's turbo retarded bullshit and you fucking know it. Most of your posts in this thread are decent, i disagree, but I understand your side. This huge faggoty proclaimation that registering a website is such a betrayal is just stupid as fuck.
 
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