Rooster Teeth / Achievement Hunter / Let's Play / Funhaus / Inside Gaming - The company was resurrected.

[Burt Ryan]

Poor Charlotte, all that effort to look like a ugly man.

He was 'average to good looking' before.

 

[3MW0J8]

The real AH ended in 2019 when Fiona was hired. Once they started putting niggers in videos regularly, it was all over. I miss that old group.

 

[Your NSA Handler]

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He was 'average to good looking' before.

No dude why

To continue to be depressing, I can't help but wonder how I would react if I got propelled into internet fame like these guys did. It's a world I don't (and hope to never) understand, one with a focus on appearance and a perception of acceptance. These people's pathetic twitter posts of complete self-absorption could be written off as the expression something these people always had, but social acceptance is a big thing for everyone, and when the lens you see the world through is a bunch of fans on the internet who don't really know or care about you, but who will smother you in love for the most mediocre of shit, it has to skew your worldview.

In my mind it goes either one of two ways:

1. They're (mostly) normal people and being caught up in this fake world really fucks with your head. This is what I'm biased toward. Look at Jeremy, or Michael. These guys haven't really done anything "wrong" and seem generally like alright people through the whole situation. And yet they can't let go. In fact, the only people to really let go were Joel, who said "Fuck it" and stopped showing up, and Burnie, who carefully planned an exit that ended with a whisper and not a bang. Then you see all the trannies, and the pandering, and vapid, embarrassing Instagram/Twitter pictures and you just wonder "What if?". What if these dudes just worked at a local accounting firm and went home to an average looking wife, maybe had a kid or two? Maybe "Charlotte" would live out his days in peace. I'll even go so far as to say that spoiled brats like Fiona would be a lot more sympathetic if they just lived normal lives, or were spoiled without having thousands of people to listen to her going "look at me".

or

2. They're all rotten from the start. I don't know, maybe. I'm sure self-absorbed people like finding avenues to feed that, and maybe I'm being much too generous. But the amount of people on this sinking ship who just won't let go makes me think this isn't the case.

Point being, I'm so fucking glad all my attempts to "get big" online over a decade ago failed miserably. Being a normal person is something I'm equipped to deal with. Not the internet of current year.

 

[transliberianorchestra]

No dude why

To continue to be depressing, I can't help but wonder how I would react if I got propelled into internet fame like these guys did. It's a world I don't (and hope to never) understand, one with a focus on appearance and a perception of acceptance. These people's pathetic twitter posts of complete self-absorption could be written off as the expression something these people always had, but social acceptance is a big thing for everyone, and when the lens you see the world through is a bunch of fans on the internet who don't really know or care about you, but who will smother you in love for the most mediocre of shit, it has to skew your worldview.

In my mind it goes either one of two ways:

1. They're (mostly) normal people and being caught up in this fake world really fucks with your head. This is what I'm biased toward. Look at Jeremy, or Michael. These guys haven't really done anything "wrong" and seem generally like alright people through the whole situation. And yet they can't let go. In fact, the only people to really let go were Joel, who said "Fuck it" and stopped showing up, and Burnie, who carefully planned an exit that ended with a whisper and not a bang. Then you see all the trannies, and the pandering, and vapid, embarrassing Instagram/Twitter pictures and you just wonder "What if?". What if these dudes just worked at a local accounting firm and went home to an average looking wife, maybe had a kid or two? Maybe "Charlotte" would live out his days in peace. I'll even go so far as to say that spoiled brats like Fiona would be a lot more sympathetic if they just lived normal lives, or were spoiled without having thousands of people to listen to her going "look at me".

or

2. They're all rotten from the start. I don't know, maybe. I'm sure self-absorbed people like finding avenues to feed that, and maybe I'm being much too generous. But the amount of people on this sinking ship who just won't let go makes me think this isn't the case.

Point being, I'm so fucking glad all my attempts to "get big" online over a decade ago failed miserably. Being a normal person is something I'm equipped to deal with. Not the internet of current year.

This is one of the GOAT trannies posting their L's. Which one of you rascals were his therapist?

 

[Bored & Confused]

This is one of the GOAT trannies posting their L's. Which one of you rascals were his therapist?

Therapists that don't beat around the bush & give good advice are hard to come by. And this guy just throws him away.

 

[Pizdec]

Can I make a humble request from my fellow Roosters - does anyone have a definitive list of their GOOD stuff, or at least a general timeline of when their quality fell off too much?

off the top of my head, I wanna say RoosterTeeth reached peak quality by 2016-18, and then people began to trickle off, myself included, with the whole subbing to RT first. By then it was kind of meh, because I couldn't catch the podcast live, and when I did by then it honestly got boring, even with the option to watch Off Topic live as well, it didn't add to much.

Therapists that don't beat around the bush & give good advice are hard to come by. And this guy just throws him away.

When the goal is affirmation, it doesn't matter if it's good advice or not, it is not what they want. They wanted someone to affirm their bullshit even in the face of someone telling them straight that this is not the path they should go down. Like you said, it's pretty sad when someone throws away a really good specialist in favor of yes men.

 

[Tom Honks]

“Big sigh”

 

[Pizdec]

“Big sigh”

Sorry for being so horny chat, I'm a gay nigger who believes in horoscopes uwu I love eating ass.

"Bully that's the eighth time you brought up eating ass this week"

Inb4 sonicfox level of autism about not being openly gay is homophobic

 

[Burt Ryan]

“Big sigh”

I can't wait for 'Funhaus' to upload their Hogwarts Legacy gameplay and not include Charlotte.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

No dude why

To continue to be depressing, I can't help but wonder how I would react if I got propelled into internet fame like these guys did. It's a world I don't (and hope to never) understand, one with a focus on appearance and a perception of acceptance. These people's pathetic twitter posts of complete self-absorption could be written off as the expression something these people always had, but social acceptance is a big thing for everyone, and when the lens you see the world through is a bunch of fans on the internet who don't really know or care about you, but who will smother you in love for the most mediocre of shit, it has to skew your worldview.

In my mind it goes either one of two ways:

1. They're (mostly) normal people and being caught up in this fake world really fucks with your head. This is what I'm biased toward. Look at Jeremy, or Michael. These guys haven't really done anything "wrong" and seem generally like alright people through the whole situation. And yet they can't let go. In fact, the only people to really let go were Joel, who said "Fuck it" and stopped showing up, and Burnie, who carefully planned an exit that ended with a whisper and not a bang. Then you see all the trannies, and the pandering, and vapid, embarrassing Instagram/Twitter pictures and you just wonder "What if?". What if these dudes just worked at a local accounting firm and went home to an average looking wife, maybe had a kid or two? Maybe "Charlotte" would live out his days in peace. I'll even go so far as to say that spoiled brats like Fiona would be a lot more sympathetic if they just lived normal lives, or were spoiled without having thousands of people to listen to her going "look at me".

or

2. They're all rotten from the start. I don't know, maybe. I'm sure self-absorbed people like finding avenues to feed that, and maybe I'm being much too generous. But the amount of people on this sinking ship who just won't let go makes me think this isn't the case.

Point being, I'm so fucking glad all my attempts to "get big" online over a decade ago failed miserably. Being a normal person is something I'm equipped to deal with. Not the internet of current year.

Group think in environments for medically serious things can be surprising strong. For example:

• I have never known a younger wall street trader who didn't abuse cocaine and stimulants near-daily for perceived improvement at work (and also abuse every other drug recreationally)
• If you go work at an Alaskan cannery, everyone is smoking meth and cigarettes so they can stay awake for 24 hour shifts gutting and cleaning tons and tons of fish.
• Anyone that plays D1 football in college takes steroids/hgh/SARMs to some degree, and also almost all take significant blows to the head causing irreparable damage to their brain.

Now, it's hilarious that the environmental groupthink pressure on RT employees is "go tranny so we can claim increased diversity and/or bump yourself up on the oppression totem pole".


To avoid double posting, here's a thought that's been bouncing around my head:

RoosterTeeth's biggest mistake was too much short-term thinking in their heyday

I was thinking about how LinusTechTips talked about putting other people in front of the camera early on, at first occasionally, then more and more to slowly get the audience used to the other hosts, and also allow them to gain experience and get better. Did the hosts get hate early on? Yep. Did the videos get worse metrics early on? Probably. But he knew being the sole face in front of the screen would damage him in the long term, so he slowly introduced it so that it would be a smoother transition.

I know we talk a lot about how Roosterteeth nowadays seems way too deaf to fan criticisms (i.e. loud is what we do), but I'd argue that in the critical 2014-2016 period (which is when they made decisions that set up their future for either feast or famine), they were way too fucking weak to "viewership" and "metrics" in the short-term which screwed them over long term.

Now, obviously views drive their business, but on a company-wide level it's akin to buying a stock, waiting a month and then checking your ROE, seeing that you've lost money and panic selling.

The two examples that jump out to me from that period are Sportsball (the first season, not the "LOOK WE GOT MIA KALIFA!!!" second season attention grab) and the Let's Builds with the secondary crew. Both were cancelled due to "low viewership", but both were prime opportunities to low-stakes expand into different market shares and foster new talent respectively.

Tyler Coe was a very entertaining host, and their sports podcast was very well produced. They cancelled it after the first season due to "poor viewership", but they were branching out into new territory with less cross-over appeal for the existing fanbase. It's going to take longer to attract and foster a new fanbase, but it would have been a fanbase that otherwise might not give a fuck about RoosterTeeth, which I think would have been an advantage.

For the secondary crew let's builds in 2014, it was a super low stakes way for the newer talent to get comfortable let's playing, help them develop their skills, and also find a good group dynamic, comedic voice, etc. But at that point, they were so worried about views that they snuffed it. But that mentality fucked them over because eventually the O.G. talent that gets high views starts getting burned out, so you start shoving in raw new talent in front of the camera all at once and then bitching out the audience when they respond negatively. It's unfair to the new talent as well, since you're dropping them onto a treadmill going at full speed instead of letting them crawl, walk, run to get up to speed.

So currently, we're seeing the results of all their years where they weren't willing to take short-term losses and risks for future development, and all their eggs are coming home to roost.

 

[Burt Ryan]

Funhaus handled it slightly different since the Inside Gaming days. They did 'premiere' the other guys (Lawrence, Spoole, Joel) in front of the camera once in a while, and the same goes during the Funhaus era with Don, Bones, Dan, Jon, Jacob and by the end Ryan, Lyndsey and Alanah.

I don't think Funhaus failed at 'long-term planning' as AH / RT did (considering all the inconsistencies someone pointed out either in this thread or the Ryan/Adam thread about Bruce statements, etc.), but I think the core crew breaking up, with Bruce and Lawrence leaving, Adam getting fired, and the replacement with Charlotte, Lyndsey, Armando, Patrick and Ryan softened the blow for most fans, not all since the new crew is definitely different and I really wish for Funhaus tenure to end at long last.

 

[Steinercard]

What if these dudes just worked at a local accounting firm and went home to an average looking wife, maybe had a kid or two? Maybe "Charlotte" would live out his days in peace. I'll even go so far as to say that spoiled brats like Fiona would be a lot more sympathetic if they just lived normal lives, or were spoiled without having thousands of people to listen to her going "look at me".

or

2. They're all rotten from the start. I don't know, maybe. I'm sure self-absorbed people like finding avenues to feed that, and maybe I'm being much too generous. But the amount of people on this sinking ship who just won't let go makes me think this isn't the case.

Point being, I'm so fucking glad all my attempts to "get big" online over a decade ago failed miserably. Being a normal person is something I'm equipped to deal with. Not the internet of current year.

You have this very middle class boomer way of looking at work. Where you can just slide into an accounting firm and it's a valid option for everyone.

These people at one point worked dead end jobs, maybe retail. Nothing with any real prospects. Like most people from the Millenial generations. Suddenly for whatever reason they get a "side hustle" making You tube videos. Or instagram posts or whatever. It starts going well enough and they are lucky enough to be doing this pre social media actively deciding winners and losers in the social media game. They do well enough and by about 2010-ish they all start to decide to make this a full time job because it pays well enough to support themselves. There was no fucking way they were going to earn even your average middle class income with their current prospects. Even if they did become an accountant. So they say fuck it. But then everything shit that we all know about starts to happen about 2015 onwards. These people have giant gaping holes in their CV. So they can't just go get a "real job". Having a big hole of unemployment is poison to job prospects. And no, in the real world "I was an employee of a You Tube channel." will not get you that job stacking shelves in a supermarket. And them googling your name and seeing you humiliate yourself in slow motion on You Tube won't either. But the demands for content are so much higher. You have to compete with multimillion dollar tech companies, television networks and more for less money than the boom period of 2010-2014. Stress is high, these people look for any advantage they can knowing they're trapped in this shtty job they hate . Which causes mental issues and that's when you end up with people trooning out or having melt downs. Meanwhile Zoomers living on trust funds (((network))) with their greatest allies to get millions of followers overnight and have entire teams to make them videos so they can sleepwalk through internet fame. The average person nowadays will NEVER experience the growth of Pewdiepie or Rooster Teeth. You can't do a you tube channel on the side as a hobby if you want success. You have to turn Social Media into a full time job and devote more time to it than any actual person with a real job and responsibilities can do. Which of course is (((intended))).

Gen Z are fucked. There's no social mobility anymore. And Rooster Teeth employees are killing themselves or trooning out.

 

[Random Internet Person]

You have this very middle class boomer way of looking at work. Where you can just slide into an accounting firm and it's a valid option for everyone.

These people at one point worked dead end jobs, maybe retail. Nothing with any real prospects. Like most people from the Millenial generations. Suddenly for whatever reason they get a "side hustle" making You tube videos. Or instagram posts or whatever. It starts going well enough and they are lucky enough to be doing this pre social media actively deciding winners and losers in the social media game. They do well enough and by about 2010-ish they all start to decide to make this a full time job because it pays well enough to support themselves. There was no fucking way they were going to earn even your average middle class income with their current prospects. Even if they did become an accountant. So they say fuck it. But then everything shit that we all know about starts to happen about 2015 onwards. These people have giant gaping holes in their CV. So they can't just go get a "real job". Having a big hole of unemployment is poison to job prospects. And no, in the real world "I was an employee of a You Tube channel." will not get you that job stacking shelves in a supermarket. And them googling your name and seeing you humiliate yourself in slow motion on You Tube won't either. But the demands for content are so much higher. You have to compete with multimillion dollar tech companies, television networks and more for less money than the boom period of 2010-2014. Stress is high, these people look for any advantage they can knowing they're trapped in this shtty job they hate . Which causes mental issues and that's when you end up with people trooning out or having melt downs. Meanwhile Zoomers living on trust funds (((network))) with their greatest allies to get millions of followers overnight and have entire teams to make them videos so they can sleepwalk through internet fame. The average person nowadays will NEVER experience the growth of Pewdiepie or Rooster Teeth. You can't do a you tube channel on the side as a hobby if you want success. You have to turn Social Media into a full time job and devote more time to it than any actual person with a real job and responsibilities can do. Which of course is (((intended))).

Gen Z are fucked. There's no social mobility anymore. And Rooster Teeth employees are killing themselves or trooning out.

In other words, RT is fucked, and the people involved are screwed because nobody in RT has what it takes to become the next Mr Beast. Got it.

 

[Gondola Enjoyer]

Late as fuck, but I think the definitive death of AH for me was during the final Destiny Salt Raid video, where Ryan is screaming that they should play the game while Alfredo explains the mechanics because that'd make it more interesting for the audience, meanwhile everyone else is screaming back that they should just stand there and do nothing while Alfredo mumbles his way through esoteric shit that makes no sense until you see it. "That's why we have editors, they'll cut out the 20 minutes of Alfredo explaining the mechanics!". Alright then, make your minimum effort videos, see where it gets you.

 

[CptnSnshn]

Let's Builds with the secondary crew. Both were cancelled due to "low viewership"

See this one never made a lick of sense to me, it's not exactly like the videos they were shitting out had anything but the most basic editing and could probably be thrown out the same day they were recorded, hell even the stuff their A-Team did anything fancy.

Shit why did they even have all those editors when some asshole collage student in his first year of media production could knock out an AH video and what take an hour longer?

 

[batigol]

In other words, RT is fucked, and the people involved are screwed because nobody in RT has what it takes to become the next Mr Beast. Got it.

Anybody with the talent and drive to be the next "insert x" isn't joining up with Rooster Teeth, they're doing it on their own. You join Rooster Teeth for the same reason as another established media company. You have the right credentials (i.e. bits of paper), tick the right boxes in terms of whatever the current political zeitgeist is, and wont rock the boat by doing dangerous things like thinking. Bonus points for making a pretence of going out on your own (I have a Twitch!) to pad out the CV while never having the intention to make it more than that. Which is a good description of all the most recent hires of Rooster Teeth - and other "Old New Media" companies for that matter.

 

[Steinercard]

In other words, RT is fucked, and the people involved are screwed because nobody in RT has what it takes to become the next Mr Beast. Got it.

No normal person with a normal job could ever be Mr Beast because he's a rich trust fund kid with connections that the average person will never have. And that's the only way to be a successful social media star these days. This is by design.

 

[3MW0J8]

The two examples that jump out to me from that period are Sportsball (the first season, not the "LOOK WE GOT MIA KALIFA!!!" second season attention grab) and the Let's Builds with the secondary crew. Both were cancelled due to "low viewership", but both were prime opportunities to low-stakes expand into different market shares and foster new talent respectively.

Tyler Coe was a very entertaining host, and their sports podcast was very well produced. They cancelled it after the first season due to "poor viewership", but they were branching out into new territory with less cross-over appeal for the existing fanbase. It's going to take longer to attract and foster a new fanbase, but it would have been a fanbase that otherwise might not give a fuck about RoosterTeeth, which I think would have been an advantage.

As much as I liked Sportsball, I don't think viewership would've increased. A regular sports fan is going to get their news from other sources, not from a random weekly show with hosts they never heard of. It was just geared toward sports fans who knew Tyler, Jack, and Joel. Not many people, as Rooster Teeth discovered.

That was the problem with RT during those years. They made a lot of money from RWBY, sold out to Fullscreen, and thought they were more than they were. After a decade of growing the company slowly, overnight they hired hundreds of people and greenlit dozens of shows, out of control like a kid in a candy shop. They should've focused on one or two things and made them good. Instead, they made everything and hoped something would stick, and nothing did. RT-ES, Crunch Time, Tuesday Night Game Fight, Nomad of Nowhere, Arizona Circle, Gen Lock... I was an RT fan at the time, and I didn't watch more than one episode of any of those.

And then there was the Let's Play Network, when they brought in channels to collab with AH. Screw Attack, Cow Chop, The Creatures, Sugar Pine 7. It was too much at once, and AH's audience just didn't care. Besides Funhaus, the groups all dissolved shortly after joining Let's Play.

Because of those bad financial decisions, RT was forced to lay off most of their staff starting in 2019, and then everything really went to shit.

 

[Your NSA Handler]

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I don't agree with this. I'm roughly the same age as people at RT and worked a dead end job. Even then, I always had options that wouldn't vet me super hard that could improve my prospects. And I'm not special. If anything, I had few to no connections and still managed to get to a better place, even as an unskilled worker out of my teens. I guarantee these people could get something going in their lives before too long. They'd lose their quality of life for a while, most likely, but they aren't getting interviewed at a Fortune 500. Plenty of mediocre but stable enough businesses would probably hire them.

Also, I'm talking "in an alternate timeline" when it comes to these people. My thesis that I don't think the trannies would have trannied as much if they didn't work and live in an environment that poisoned their minds.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

As much as I liked Sportsball, I don't think viewership would've increased. A regular sports fan is going to get their news from other sources, not from a random weekly show with hosts they never heard of. It was just geared toward sports fans who knew Tyler, Jack, and Joel. Not many people, as Rooster Teeth discovered.

But ultimately, how many people knew Jomboy when he started out? Basically no one, but after two years fulltime he had his first viral pop and then it just snowballed from there. Engaging new personalities in sports talk were definitely a field that was not fully tapped at the time, but fostering that audience takes time and effort, and RT didn't see results fast enough for their liking so they snuffed it. I think it was short-sighted on their part. They never would have converted RT fanbase over to it, but they could have cultivated a following I think. Who knows?