Ben Shapiro / The Daily Wire - Commentator, Lawyer, Writer, WAP Sommelier, Vanquisher of SJWs, Podcast Host, Mara Wilson's cousin

[verissimus]

Fuck, Trump did more for the right and did so coming out of absolutely nowhere than Shapiro has done, a guy who Shapiro swore up and down would be the end of the party.

Is it really difficult to do more for the right than Ben Shapiro supposedly does?

Yeah, Ben pisses me off, or has traditionally pissed me off with a lot of his takes, but at least he literally did sue to prevent vaccine mandates for his staff. That’s an actual action, at least.

But the part I’m stuck on is how Crowder makes the claim that DW is somehow affecting things as a net negative when it literally does not have the power to gatekeep. All DW has is Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, Jordan Peterson and some new guy I haven’t heard of.

Ben, Jordan, and Candace were all known on their own prior to the Daily Wire either existing or having anything to do with them. I admit to only having heard of Walsh and Knowles afterwards, but between them “what is a woman” is the only thing I can remember being significant between either of them. So DW is just trying to exist as a company and build out the capacity to make movies or something, right?

Crowder is Crowder, and there’s nothing he really stood to gain. Of course he could make more money from his own followers than he could expect DW to pay him for making the money off his followers for him. DW was never an obstacle to anything Crowder wanted to do and it’s weird to pretend they were

What pisses me off the from all this is Crowder's supposed moral posturing. In particular how he's just standing up for other "talent" (his lingo not mine) out there. What other "talent" is he even referring to? Seriously. Exactly how many names can you think of right now that not only draws in fairly big numbers, but also doesn't rock the boat too much that groups like the Daily Wire or the Blaze would want to partner with? I pretty much can't think of any person out there that fits that description. And even if there was such people, there is no guarantee they would sign up with these groups. So as far as I'm concered, Crowder isn't looking out for anyone in particular, and from what I hear, he isn't much of a better business partner than Ben is.

Everything about this squabble comes across as petty beef these people have with one another, but Crowder wants to frame this as some kind of greater struggle. No bud, this just sounds like your personal problem, one that you didn't need to make public.

 

[RX-78]

So aside from the token boomerhorde, who actually listens to this jew again?

 

[WelperHelper99]

I wanted to write something more constrained, but fuck it, ready my black hat.

This entire all or nothing attitude the right has is retarded and a blight on the entire community. I've been following the right wing sphere on social media the last decade and EVERY single time it ends the following ways:
* The channel stops growing and becomes an echo chamber saying the same tired points forever.
* The channel dies after being caught as massive degenerate/psy ops/grifting.
* The channel tries going legit and is immediately destroyed in real life politics/economics.

The modern new right wing absolutely refuses to engage in optics, pummeling its head against the overton window and as result keeps being seen as a joke (or worse, a live strawman) and the window still moves to the left regardless. They saw Trump saying shit and thought that they'll get the same treatment as a man with fuck you money.

Call Shapiro a grifter but so far he achieved more than the entire right wing sphere combined by having optics and making conservative media a thing, so parents will feel safe showing their children tv, without the fear it will groom them. And that also includes making a push back against trannies and offering contracts to people blacklisted for having the wrong opinions. The end goal is making conservative opinion legitimate again.

And the question you asked can be easily reversed on Crowder - What was the point of revealing the contract? It hurts the entire conservative movement by (for the billionth time) engaging in cannibalism, and his only achievement will be a small bump in viewers.

If the left will cover up for everyone with their opinion, even if it's outright sex pests, the right constantly self polices - You go too far, you are a fed. You don't stick to some arbitrary set of talking points, you are a grifter.

This exactly. The right can't go on attacking itself forever in this fucking purity spiral. Argue about the contract all you want, point is it should have never seen the light of day. All this does is promote a culture of mistrust and fractures the movement.

Not completely incorrect. But Ben has achieved more not because optics, but because he is fucking sheltered by his pinnacle of the oppression pyramid Jewish identity.

What is with you Europeans and the damn jews? He's Jewish. So is the funniest man alive, Mel Brooks! Blazing Saddles still holds up and they still actively sell it on blu ray, and that man insulted everyone, incuding the Jew. Religion doesnt determine character, the person does. Like it or not, if the right wishes to survive, they cannot pick and choose allies.

 

[Big Al's Famous Pork]

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So aside from the token boomerhorde, who actually listens to this jew again?

I just don't understand why/how a spergy little manlet who constantly wears a stupid hat is going to save Western Civilization.

 

[AgendaPoster]

What is with you Europeans and the damn jews? He's Jewish. So is the funniest man alive, Mel Brooks! Blazing Saddles still holds up and they still actively sell it on blu ray, and that man insulted everyone, incuding the Jew. Religion doesnt determine character, the person does. Like it or not, if the right wishes to survive, they cannot pick and choose allies.

I already specified what's the issue with having an identity that shelters you from criticism. While it might seem that I am anti-Semitic or anti-Jewish from the post, that's not accurate.
I simply desire the same privileges, I want to organize based on ethnic and racial characteristics, I want to have a homeland that's explicitly my people's just like Israel, and more.
I consider Jews smart pursuers of self-interest, and yes, they are a diverse group, with quite a few criticizing Israel even.
However, inside a large population, we do not use exceptions, we use gaussian distributions to determine what's the area that generates stereotypes.
Ben is not an ally. I don't know any Jewish person that is OK with European ethnic states.
You know why?
Because when we had those, we pogromed and expelled them and other foreigners.
It's a self-defense evolutionary mechanism. Religion has nothing to do with it. It's blood and genetic memory, history, education.
This is my last J thing in the topic, even though it's very relevant to DW and Shapiro, for obvious reasons.
If Shapiro will discuss these things and would be OK with European states created in a similar manner as Israel is, I would not even care about him. Jews deserve their homeland too.
But so do we.

 

[Retink Retunk]

Yeah, Nick Rekieta was speculating it was because she got a shit deal and didn't call it out the way Crowder did, and now she's upset about it. I think she also likely has some beef with Crowder historically though.

This is why I don't necessarily agree with Shadiversity on his take, as everyone should go in to any contract negotiation with skepticism. They should also have some idea of what they're worth, how they can justify it, and some idea of what they're willing to accept.

Because even if you go in, and the company makes you a "fair" offer, it might not always be what you could get elsewhere or what's actually fair because a company can only know so much about you. It's why I always ask for an offer first in a negotiation, because you'll be surprised what some people throw out there.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I already specified what's the issue with having an identity that shelters you from criticism. While it might seem that I am anti-Semitic or anti-Jewish from the post, that's not accurate.
I simply desire the same privileges, I want to organize based on ethnic and racial characteristics, I want to have a homeland that's explicitly my people's just like Israel, and more.
I consider Jews smart pursuers of self-interest, and yes, they are a diverse group, with quite a few criticizing Israel even.
However, inside a large population, we do not use exceptions, we use gaussian distributions to determine what's the area that generates stereotypes.
Ben is not an ally. I don't know any Jewish person that is OK with European ethnic states.
You know why?
Because when we had those, we pogromed and expelled them and other foreigners.
It's a self-defense evolutionary mechanism. Religion has nothing to do with it. It's blood and genetic memory, history, education.
This is my last J thing in the topic, even though it's very relevant to DW and Shapiro, for obvious reasons.
If Shapiro will discuss these things and would be OK with European states created in a similar manner as Israel is, I would not even care about him. Jews deserve their homeland too.
But so do we.

Let me put it this way. I don't give a shit about the Jews. I just accept them for what they are. Once you do that, life is so much easier. And I'm sorry, Europe shit the bed with 70 million dead. I'm just talking people in general. I don't live in a ethnicly pure US, and yet... it's alright. I work with different races everyday, some are better welders than I'll ever be. Why should you in some tiny country get some pure state when I don't have that- and neither does Isreal. If they could solve the Palestinian issue they would have already. Ben's view is stupid wanting to move them all out, you can make it work if you actually give a shit and try.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

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So aside from the token boomerhorde, who actually listens to this jew again?

He said that, and then they sued the federal government over the vaccine mandate. It’s almost like he can say his opinions without trying to force them on others

 

[Internet War Criminal]

What makes Crowder looks like a fucking retard grifter is that after getting that term sheet he asked them for $120M and he was fully prepared to live with their terms as long as he got paid $30M/Y and he only decided to shit on them and pretend it was about the way the contract was formulated when he didn't get the amount of money he wanted.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

What makes Crowder looks like a fucking retard grifter is that after getting that term sheet he asked them for $120M and he was fully prepared to live with their terms as long as he got paid $30M/Y and he only decided to shit on them and pretend it was about the way the contract was formulated when he didn't get the amount of money he wanted.

Right, so all the fifty million times he said “it isn’t about the money” were bullshit, and you understand that yes, Crowder gayopped the Daily Wire AFTER he finally decided he was going to just keep his own mug club 3.0 instead of selling it a third time and making himself sad later.

He literally did all of this to try to peel paypigs from DW.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I think she also likely has some beef with Crowder historically though.

If you watch the Mid-Terms stream between Crowder and DW, it's clear that she doesn't like him and he's basically giving her shit and making fun of Kanye and she looked pissed at him.

He literally did all of this to try to peel paypigs from DW.

Yeah he knows that there's a bunch of people who were subscribed to the Blaze and the Daily Wire, and that by leaving he would get most of the people who subscribed for him on the Blaze to come over, but there was probably gonna be some who would be like 'two subs is enough for me." He probably figured he had taken as much from the Blaze as he could, so trying to peel people away from the DW was his best move.

I think ultimately it's gonna blow the fuck back on him. Plenty of people who liked him enough to subscribe but also remember him doing shit like taking breaks for over a month multiple times a year AND him acting like a total cunt are not gonna want to subscribe to his mugclub as a result.

Him fanning the flames and making shit worse on Timcast tomorrow is only gonna make him go down in flames harder. I don't buy his 'I'm willing to step away and pass the torch to someone else' for a single second. When you ask for $30M/Y and throw a tantrum when you don't get it, that's not a man ready to retire.

I think he ultimately is going to lose viewers. I can't imagine how he thought it would actually turn out for him to try and pull this in the first place.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

If you watch the Mid-Terms stream between Crowder and DW, it's clear that she doesn't like him and he's basically giving her shit and making fun of Kanye and she looked pissed at him.


Yeah he knows that there's a bunch of people who were subscribed to the Blaze and the Daily Wire, and that by leaving he would get most of the people who subscribed for him on the Blaze to come over, but there was probably gonna be some who would be like 'two subs is enough for me." He probably figured he had taken as much from the Blaze as he could, so trying to peel people away from the DW was his best move.

I think ultimately it's gonna blow the fuck back on him. Plenty of people who liked him enough to subscribe but also remember him doing shit like taking breaks for over a month multiple times a year AND him acting like a total cunt are not gonna want to subscribe to his mugclub as a result.

Him fanning the flames and making shit worse on Timcast tomorrow is only gonna make him go down in flames harder. I don't buy his 'I'm willing to step away and pass the torch to someone else' for a single second. When you ask for $30M/Y and throw a tantrum when you don't get it, that's not a man ready to retire.

I think he ultimately is going to lose viewers. I can't imagine how he thought it would actually turn out for him to try and pull this in the first place.

Yes. The only people Crowder is doing favors for are Media Matters and the Young Turks, whose takes are top in the search results.

Way to stick it to big tech, Steve

 

[The Saltening]

Apparently Candace Owens has recorded an insane amount of calls between "friends" and aired dirty laundry on tape. Who would have thunk she would be a hypocrite.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

Right, so all the fifty million times he said “it isn’t about the money” were bullshit, and you understand that yes, Crowder gayopped the Daily Wire AFTER he finally decided he was going to just keep his own mug club 3.0 instead of selling it a third time and making himself sad later.

He literally did all of this to try to peel paypigs from DW.

I like all the comments on Crowder's last vid. This has overwhelmingly backfired on him. All he had to do was nothing really. About 48 hours ago, I was on the fence if he was a cow, but now I really think he quickly growing into a Jersey milker. I am looking forward to what is next. What photoshops of Matt Walsh sucking girldick?

 

[verissimus]

Apparently Candace Owens has recorded an insane amount of calls between "friends" and aired dirty laundry on tape. Who would have thunk she would be a hypocrite.

Was this before or after she supposedly became conservative?

 

[Big Al's Famous Pork]

"FUCK YOU FAGGOT DONT YOU DARE OFFER ME 50 MILLION DOLLARS" - Stephen Crowder

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

"FUCK YOU FAGGOT DONT YOU DARE OFFER ME 50 MILLION DOLLARS" - Stephen Crowder

Yeah, he wanted more, lmao. BuT iT wAsN't AbOuT tHe MoNeY!

 

[Hoppy]

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So aside from the token boomerhorde, who actually listens to this jew again?

I don't know either, its a mystery. This guy is a treasure trove of retarded takes.

 

[Big Al's Famous Pork]

Crowder isn't even all that funny. He's a Great Value Gutfeld and Gutfeld is basically a can of Spam.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

Crowder isn't even all that funny. He's a Great Value Gutfeld and Gutfeld is basically a can of Spam.

He needs to put his money where is mouth is. If he is oh so concerned about the next generation, he needs to hire them and give them their own shows. He won't though, because he apparently sufferers from the same disease Tim Pool does about this. If it isn't about ME then I don't want it, unless someone else will do it for me.