Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

Bro I made a dating app account again recently, inspired by the memory that it takes no bravery at all, but forgetting how soul-destroying it is. It's actually gone a little better, got a match but no message and a few likes (probably fatties, if I haven't matched with them). I insist on using it in my stupid, inefficient way, which is to actually look at women's profiles because I actually care about that, and loading my profile up with my hobbies, cat photo, formal photo of me, etc., because the way I see it, I know that's going to put off a decent chunk of women, but I'm not Chad Thundercock so I can't pull off the dog-and-bros photo stuff and I don't think I'd really want that kind of vapid bint. I want to get whatever rare one might see my instruments or kayaking or whatever it is and be interested in the personality.

Well, anyways, these women are so samey. In the past I'd wonder about how so many women physically look real similar, this sort of generic but uninspiring prettiness, sea of blondes usually (natural or not), and I'd feel like a sociopath thinking how they looked like they all came out of a factory, but I mentioned it a few times to other people and they'd agree. And that same sort of woman always has the same shit on their profile. Some sassy comment, some shit about how much htey love the gym/sportsball (probably trying to suck up to the men they're looking to attract), wine or whiskey or the bar, The Office, listen to contemporary Black rap or to contemporary country depending on whether or not they're a hick.

And it's not that I'm dead set against those things, but that's all there is, and it's all of them. Sometimes some pop up that do seem to have a bit more going on. What I'd say there's a real lack of is the women who have intellectual or artistic interests, or music interests that aren't "I listen to Childish Gambino." They don't exist, at least not on the app.

I think there may be this extreme segmentation where the hambeasts (male and female) go on out of desperation and Chad and Stacy go on there because they know they can fuck high quality (for their standards) people easily.
Dating apps are a huge waste of time, even if you above average looking, they are for the top 5% of men (which are perceived as 99% of men by most women).

Approaching women through your social circle or even at work will always be more effective because your competition is infinitely smaller and both parties can already start filtering.

This has the added benefit of being good instead of devestating for your self-esteem and sharpening your social skills.
You will also be more able to develop the idgaf attitude that makes being an adult so much easier.

And mother nature has as of now not developed a destructive algorithm that designed to keep you engaged with it's product instead of procreation.

Regarding the topic of the thread:

I think male competition will go down anyway when more and more men will engage in such fun activities such as /VR Porn/hyperrealistic sex dolls/new drugs/cutting your dick off
 
I generally agree - I know a couple of legit 9's, maybe 10's on one of my sports teams. They aren't exactly experiencing relationship bliss. IMO people in general are a lot uglier than they used to be, and I think that matters a lot. But there is something deeper going on.

I think to a big degree, men and women in general don't really have much to offer each other anymore; other than maybe the physical side of hookups (which suck mentally, btw).

I've ran into this in my own life - I am a 32 year old man now. 10 years ago a girlfriend would have brought a lot to the table for me. Now.....idk man, I live cleanly, take care of all my own chores by myself, I can cook well, and my free time is filled with hobbies I find interesting and enriching, or hanging out with people. The only things a relationship would bring to the table are intimacy and consistent sex. Not that those aren't important, but thats just two fairly higher level things on the whole hierarchy of needs. So the desire, or need to get out there and find someone, anyone, just isn't really there. Does this mean that I am probably at least a better than average relationship partner than most dudes, who come with a number of issues or needs that I don't have? Probably. Does that also mean that by and large, I am just not an option and will likely remain single for a while because there just isn't anyone out there that will actually be a net positive to my life? Also sadly, probably yes.

When we don't want kids, when we get relationship dopamine hits from dating apps and cheap flings, when we have no more shared goals, when we get food from services......what fucking point is there to relationships anymore?

Welcome to modernity. Hope you enjoy your stay.
Yeah, definitely I live in a place that's supposed to be full of beautiful people, but I've seen a lot of people who look like trolls and neckbeards. I do think that most people who are ugly on the outside, are on the inside as well. I do think you have to be at least somewhat attractive to have friends and hobbies. I remember growing up my mom didn't understand why I didn't want to play with the neighborhood kids (we lived in a not great neighborhood), and most people don't seem to get that friends are supposed to make you happy and not just be whoever is around.

I've found attractive people drawn to me, now I'm attractive but I don't think that's the main reason. I don't think it's even dating or hookups that people are missing, it's human connection and friendships in general. I've talked to so many people who are models, influencers, musicians, athletes, designers or whatever else who feel alone surrounded by people but are excited to see me.
 
Might be Canada?
Interestingly true - living with someone for certain amount of time makes the partnership a Common Law partnership.

Spousal Support is not gendered, so the NEET staying at home on the X-Box all day can claim alimony off his working girlfiend.

The following is stuff common law can share (in Canada and a lot of other places)
  • spousal support
  • welfare and disability benefits
  • income taxes
  • immigration sponsorship
  • health care decisions

HOWEVER only MARRIAGE allows the equitible sharing of PROPERTY after a break up, so if it is a big issue, put all your assets into property under your name, ideally before the relationship, and don't try to claim any tax breaks by having both your names on the title. Inheritance is another thing that is not shared unless you are married, so if you can work out a deal with Mom or Dad to hold on to your cash and bequeath it to you after they pass on, that will still be considered yours and not your cohabitating partners.


 
Well bros
I told you about my dating website experiment
I now know that there are about 50 Filipina and Indonesian women that want my dick, and that number's rising every day

Some parts of the US south. No lie.
Might be Canada?
What the fuck kinda country has this law ? The Congo ?
It's called a common law marriage and it comes out of British common law. Couples that cohabit long enough are married by virtue of living as though they are married. It's mostly an artifact of the days when marriage licenses were a government tax-raising scam and most peasants just shacked up together license or not.
 
I don't know about you guys, but I'm looking for ways to legalize rape. Most of Africa has arranged marriages where you can pay the father for the daughter, and where marriage is a "contract for sex". Thus "marital rape" is not recognized as rape by their cultures nor their criminal justice systems. Also there is a point, where your intellectual dishonesty is so advanced, even if you are a human trafficking kingpin, no criminal justice system can prove it. My onion project I move hosting on time-to-time to different servers I hack into and threaten the owners of:
 
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm looking for ways to legalize rape. Most of Africa has arranged marriages where you can pay the father for the daughter, and where marriage is a "contract for sex". Thus "marital rape" is not recognized as rape by their cultures nor their criminal justice systems. Also there is a point, where your intellectual dishonesty is so advanced, even if you are a human trafficking kingpin, no criminal justice system can prove it. My onion project I move hosting on time-to-time to different servers I hack into and threaten the owners of:
Nigga
 
I don't know about you guys, but I'm looking for ways to legalize rape. Most of Africa has arranged marriages where you can pay the father for the daughter, and where marriage is a "contract for sex". Thus "marital rape" is not recognized as rape by their cultures nor their criminal justice systems. Also there is a point, where your intellectual dishonesty is so advanced, even if you are a human trafficking kingpin, no criminal justice system can prove it. My onion project I move hosting on time-to-time to different servers I hack into and threaten the owners of:
Rape is legal. Just switch genders and get sent to women's prison.
 
It's one thing to be lonely, another thing to label oneself as an incel. Incels refuse to work on themselves and see the world as a mostly level playing field. Most people can get a girlfriend or boyfriend, those retards just refuse to allow themselves to change their outlook on life.
 
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