If someone is planning on killing themselves, SS not being there will not stop them from killing themselves. They’ll take a more painful route where they’ll be suffering even in their last moments. I don’t think people should kill themselves and I don’t believe in assisted suicide as a medical option unless it is for the worst of terminal or chronic illnesses. I don’t agree with the morality of the forum, but I also don’t believe it should be striked from the internet for merely existing, instead it should be criticized for idealizing suicide as an option for people who have other options, and if that criticism is great enough to affect the website let it go down that way, not through removing a key part of law that protects website owners. Parents have a right to be upset at the loss of a child, especially when they dedicated their lives to raising and caring for that child, but to focus all of your attention on one forum and not the increasing statistics of suicide worldwide and the mental health issues that cause suicide is focusing on an outlier rather than a solution. Mental health resources (Not just a number that incriminates you the moment you call) need to be expanded on and more effective, because anyone who i’ve known in my life who went to a place to receive help came out feeling worse than they did going in. Suicidal people are made to feel that they are the problem, not the issues that caused them to be suicidal in the first place. It is a key issue with mental health resources.
Nothing stops a suicidal person from committing suicide. Women can not even have tampons in psych facilities because women have previously strung them together into nooses to hang themselves. In the psych ward nothing is private, someone is with you 24/7, you’re put in a room with someone who may be dangerously psychotic and take that out on you. I don’t blame these people for not wanting to go to a psych ward, because the conditions are fucking horrific.
On the freedom of speech note, it’s the most important right in the United States and across the world for that matter. Getting rid of section 230 is a hit on freedom of speech online, and should not happen no matter what. Holding a website owner responsible for someone else’s actions is fucking retarded and could be applied to anything, a person could post a Youtube video talking about murder, and inspire someone to commit a murder. Does that mean Youtube is responsible for allowing true crime material? No. If journos make a huge media frenzy about a school shooting and publicly state how the killers did everything and got all of their weapons, and someone is inspired to commit a school shooting, is it the journalists fault? No. Crazed people on the internet will always exist no matter what, and publicity of events can often encourage them, but the blame should not be on the publicity, because most people see the material and think “that’s fucking crazy, why would anyone do that?”, not “I should do that!”. The repercussions for removing section 230 are massive and not worth the risk. Hope lawmakers can realize that before they go through with it relying on purely emotion, but hey, that seems to be what politicians and lawmakers rely on nowadays.
You really think that one shithole site going down equates to the "Entire Fucking Internet"? Are you mentally handicapped? Get your head out of your ass. That site isn't a significant cornerstone of internet freedom and expression like here. You can't compare that place to KF or the whole internet. It is only under attack for providing constant suicide discussion and being partly and fully responsible for the suicides of young people and minors. That's a far more real and justifiable reason for it being taken down than the 'trannies mad' reason for taking down KF.
It is far more morally dark than KF. It going down or not does not effect KF since KF is already a massive target. The worst thing KF has done is archive doxes that lolcows upload themselves. The shit site you're defending, directly and indirectly leads people to ending their own lives.
How many more depressed and dead children will get you to quit your frozen peaches over a single, nearly illegal, suicide groomer website? You seriously value a suicide site over the lives of children? Maybe you really are mentally handicapped.
Also, you wanna talk freedom? Go get some sun and organise with IRL people who actually exist, instead of promoting a death website as the world's cheapest gotcha to the inevitable centralisation and corporatisation of the internet.
Hmm, maybe I should raise awareness of this vile site to people IRL.
Some autistic GG Movieblob reference?
The issue is that section 230 which is being targeted by the people advocating against this website is what protects KF and other forums to host content that encourages full freedom of speech.
Section 230 makes it so that a website owner is not held responsible for the third party content of their website.
For example, if section 230 is repealed and someone on KF posts a threat, KF would be held responsible for allowing that person to make a threat, and less the individual who made the threat.
This means that websites would be encouraged to censor material, make websites more expensive and operation of a website would be significantly harder.
