Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[TheBigZee]

Seriously, what the fuck is it with munchies and the "we" are trying/doing [insert medical thing here]?

Hey, the towel boy is an important part of the team.

I think it's derived from language/metaphors used to encourage people to participate in their own treatment. For whatever reason "team", "team work", etc are powerful motivator. It's why the HR schtmick about being a team player is so effective.

Eli had some actual spinal issues (one he's claiming is cauda equina syndrome) and is now unable to walk, and may be like this for the rest of his life. I'm not sure exactly how someone could do this to themself, but my money is still on that.

@Vampyroteuthis infernalis - We've seen several subjects get a disc herniation. Not sure if you could fake your way into emergency surgery after that. You can have stenosis and not have cauda equina. Maybe a medfag like @std::string or @Thomas Eugene Paris can give their opinion. I know they do a bladder scan and test your reflexes after the MRI, but I'm not sure if you can just hold your urine and lie about it, or lie about parathesia and muscle weakness.

Spoiler

Laying in a hospital bed for several days with severe compression doesn't really add up to me. That really could leave a young person in a wheelchair for life. To the point you'd think they'd find her a surgery slot and drive her by ambulance anywhere in the region.

The good news is if she isn't paralyzed, there is some high quality milk when she's not immobilized from the anterior/posterior fusion she had. You can't walk without a walker for a period of time, and your bowels are messed up while they reposition themselves. After that we should get some really good contradictions.

further edit:
I know there are tests you can do to figure out how the muscles are working while trying to urinate - but I'm not sure they would have bothered and just took her word for it.

Lose weight kids. Even being slightly overweight sets you up for shit like this

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Areport came out saying that 70 percent of people with EDS/hEDS who claim digestive issues are full of it.

• Over 70% of patients with HD have psychological symptoms, and whether these are primary (independent of hypermobility) or secondary (due to physical symptom burden), the resultant disabilities and treatments are similar for both. Psychological assessment and therapies are therefore key when addressing psychological and GI symptomatology in patients with HD.
• Patients with HD often have a high medication burden, including higher opioid use. These medications, often prescribed in combination, can contribute significantly towards GI symptoms in patients with HD.
• Eating-related symptoms, leading to reduced oral intake and/or food avoidance, should prompt review for specific underlying disorders of gut–brain interaction. Oral diet and oral nutrition supplements should be optimised as the primary strategy via a multidisciplinary team approach. The evidence for clinically assisted nutrition and hydration is for objectively demonstrated malnutrition or electrolyte disturbance only, and should not be implemented for symptom management alone, given its associated iatrogenic risks.

Gastrointestinal symptoms and nutritional issues in patients with hypermobility disorders: assessment, diagnosis and management | Frontline Gastroenterology

 

[clockwomble]

Areport came out saying that 70 percent of people with EDS/hEDS who claim digestive issues are full of it.

• Over 70% of patients with HD have psychological symptoms, and whether these are primary (independent of hypermobility) or secondary (due to physical symptom burden), the resultant disabilities and treatments are similar for both. Psychological assessment and therapies are therefore key when addressing psychological and GI symptomatology in patients with HD.
• Patients with HD often have a high medication burden, including higher opioid use. These medications, often prescribed in combination, can contribute significantly towards GI symptoms in patients with HD.
• Eating-related symptoms, leading to reduced oral intake and/or food avoidance, should prompt review for specific underlying disorders of gut–brain interaction. Oral diet and oral nutrition supplements should be optimised as the primary strategy via a multidisciplinary team approach. The evidence for clinically assisted nutrition and hydration is for objectively demonstrated malnutrition or electrolyte disturbance only, and should not be implemented for symptom management alone, given its associated iatrogenic risks.

Gastrointestinal symptoms and nutritional issues in patients with hypermobility disorders: assessment, diagnosis and management | Frontline Gastroenterology

That’s a very telling study, especially where it states that motility testing isn’t often done, or when it is, patients are not removing medications that would impact results significantly (not that it’s not known by munchies what meds to use to impact GES, but that in this study that doctors aren’t even pulling them off of meds prior to the study as opposed to hidden patient manipulation of results). Don’t see these people doing manometries or the uncomfortable testing for sure, particularly ones that are harder to manipulate easily, to show actual dysmotilities.

 

[For The Internet]

I was talking with an OT today and found out something interesting about a very innocuous munchie prop.

A lot of them use weighted blankets. We see them pop up all the time. But apparently they're contraindicated for pain and PTSD. Which all of those girls I've seen using them claim to have.

Just thought that was interesting.

 

[Oracular Slug]

I was talking with an OT today and found out something interesting about a very innocuous munchie prop.

A lot of them use weighted blankets. We see them pop up all the time. But apparently they're contraindicated for pain and PTSD. Which all of those girls I've seen using them claim to have.

Just thought that was interesting.

IDK about pain, but weighted blankets are suggested for PTSD unless they’re claustrophobic or have issues around being restrained.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Hi my next post is taking for fucking ever for reasons that will be abundantly clear when it’s finally ready. In the meantime, have a booby prize. When I did my 2022 followup last month I said Katie Schmude DFE’d. Nope, pretty sure I was just drunk and spelled her handle wrong because she's still super active and public on tiktok. We last checked in on her in April 2022. Let's see what she's been up to since then!

Spoiler: good ole hexagon head

tl;dr: Failed nurse turned Trevino patient, moved from Michigan to Florida after bombing nursing school, claims the usuals and a bunch of autoimmune shit. Managed to get on CF and transplant medications despite having neither CF nor a transplant. Obese and "TPN-dependent" but shows herself eating. Chimps in hospitals. Makes videos screaming about what doctors accuse her of, exposing exactly how she's keeping herself sick (including overdosing herself on blood thinners until her lungs bleed, draining blood out of her port, and injecting herself with bootyjuice). Considers herself a medical expert and LARPs as a nurse on Tiktok, gives out terrible advice and picks fights with real nurses. Got called out for skinwalking by Katie Stanina, a literal SPED. Most recently claiming she's terminal from mitochondrial disease.

She had the same thing that killed Jaquie! Her intestine herniated through her GJ stoma and got wrapped around the tube. Note that there's no evidence Katie was ever friends with Jaquie. She was an orbiter at best. Worst adhesions the doctor ever saw, new GJ, terrible pain.


Lol if you read the original posts on her then you know she's already been accused of misusing/overdosing her blood thinners to cause her lungs to bleed, autoexsanguination through her central line, and using sandpaper or some other abrasive to fake a malar rash.


just a silly lipsync but lol if every doctor "gaslights" you, consider that you're actually a batshit crazy munchie.


A rather innocuous couple videos of her cat in the car and her dog on the bed, then her new retarded best friend in the comments saying she misses them. 1) this is foreshadowing. 2) i love that she's so transparent and awful the two friends we know of that got close to her are learning disabled because anyone with more than a lukewarm IQ can clock her.


Going for a shitbag, apparently.


In May on a stupid lipsync video, she announces her new GJ is already infected and she also has been off her anti-rejection meds for months.


here's a compilation of some rashes she's given herself.



Ah yes, that EDS-exclusive experience of giving yourself dead leg.

Drinking sugary carbonated beverages on TPN for total paralysis of her digestive tract and excruciating gastroparesis, just munchie things.

Lol I love this one. She pulls the deaf card, the doctor says she's not deaf but he'll scream so she can get the attention she desperately wants. Based.

Central lines aren't a fashion statement!!!! And this is why I don't believe she's HoH. Fuck me if I can hear what she's mumbling when that music is blasting and my hearing is totally fine.

Man she really is a skinwalker.

Oh yeah this is the good stuff, this is what we love her for. She's had psych called on her in the hospital when she shows up with an infection demanding pain meds. Angry that addicts that go to the ER with infections get sent to rehab while she just gets tylenol. No, no she doesn't want rehab, she wants the pain meds!!!!

Man she's such a winning combo of dumb and ugly.

If a munchie gets a colonoscopy and doesn't show you her bowel prep did it ever happen?


You claim they do tho. It's what your entire internet presence is about.


Sounds like mommy and daddy are telling her to get a job and stop being a useless lazy munchie.

After a few weeks of non-content we get this video where she announces she's been in the hospital, transferred twice, aseptic meningitis and pneumonia this time. But she's at Ascension Gensys Hospital in Grand Blanc, Michigan. She gives us some test results and also her chart which says one of her conditions is "obesity." Twice lol.

The worst part of her "terminal" illness is that people don't want to be around her because she's an unpleasant chronic attention-seeker who will ruin anything you invite her to. Not the, yanno, dying part.

Just her lipsyncing ("here I am, once again...") but she gets discharged and turns up back at the same hospital the next day. No update.


So here's a fun side quest! Katie here is just making a video about how hard it is to find a date (can't have anything to do with the fact that she's a fat, ugly, unemployed, unskilled, condescending know-it-all munchie who oozes mental illness out of every pore) and one of her examples is that she hits on a dude and finds out he's a she. Wait for it.


Just showing her planner, which is interesting only because it shows she's moving all her doctors to Michigan. Finding a new PCP. Dr. James L. Gee is a palliative care doctor in Michigan. So she never really explains the move, but it does coincide with her posting more "parental expectations" shit. We know she lived with them in Florida. I do wonder if they thought moving her up here and away from Trevino would solve the problem or what.


Also she's now got Rosie in therapy dog school so they can volunteer at a hospital in Michigan. I love the caption. i gotta assume the actual argument was "you don't need a service dog."

Kid's like 16 but here she is picking a fight with a teenager who had a pregnancy scare because doesn't she know that could ruin her life? I mean obviously she does if she's in a panic, you mong. Teenager responds with way more grace than the adult and says she wasn't on birth control because she got extremely sick from it. Stay classy Katie!

Anyway, killin my liver just munchie things


picking fights with other POTS munchies.

And my god, picking fights with the trannies. In one of the least stupid things she ever says, she points out that doctors need to know your biological sex and trannies need to deal with the fact that changing their pronoun doesn't change their chromosomes. It gets better.

Picking fights with new parents who panic and take their kid to the ER because it makes her wait too long when she is going in for her self-induced problems.

No medical drama, just funny tumblemunchie.

Rosie got attacked, some dude tried to pet her and katie tried to pull her away and choked her out with the prong collar and her foot got stepped on in the process or something IDK, she rambles and my attention span for her stories is short. She doesn't share pics or vet records like she said but she does later announce that the dog is fine, no broken bones and her trachea isn't fucked from being strangled.

Anyway back to business, her new tube is fucked with a yucky infection and it leaks everywhere. She claims the hospital won't help her until the infection gets worse. Gee wonder where this is headed.


I can't be insane! I have a therapy dog!!!!!!!!! Gaslighting doctor BTFO.


Still a coof sperg because the CDC dropped their mask mandate recommendations. COVID ISNT OVER PEOPLE!!!! Neither is the flu.


Dunking on self-diagnosing munchies. LOL Girl you're a trevino patient, you walked in the door and bought a diagnosis.


Picks a fight with the infusion supply company driver because he did his job. commenters remind her it's not his fault the order was wrong.

Jesus didn't help her but look at all the scars she's given herself.

Picking a fight with another service dog account. Ooooh sounds juicy, who was it Katie?

YES GORL. Clapping back at the "kweerz" who were freaking out about the don't say gay law, saying they need to stop pushing gay and trans shit on children. I never thought I'd agree with a batshit munchie but here we are. (Also she eats during this video, muh tpn)

I love this era. She starts these holier-than-thou fights with everyone and people start to respond with brutal takedowns.


Mom and dad don't understand!!! I have terminal genetic conditions!!!!! I can't do anything but tiktok!


Picking a fight with Dylan Mulvaney lmaoooo. YES GIRL COME TO THE TERF SIDE!

Picking a fight with a woman who has lymphatoid papulosis and terrible eczema. Apparently there was a thing going around where women would rub their skin to give themselves "natural blush" and this woman jokes that that is what she's doing. Katie suggests fine grit sandpaper in the future... which is exactly what the doctors in florida accused her of using to fake a "malar rash."


I do not consent to whatever you're doing right now


In november she lets us know she's in for emergency surgery because her port is fucked again, blaming it on "vascular EDS skin". LMAO nah you picked at it. Got a temp line in her neck, will also be getting an unnamed abdo surgery.

The terfening continues as she realizes these brave transwammens are just men measuring their "depth" like they used to measure their dicks.

picking a fight with a psych nurse who makes a joke because THAT COULD KILL HER!!!! SO many people have been negligent towards her care and she's almost DIED!!! The nurse tell her to learn to take a fucking joke.

A nurse almost KILLED HER with perfume!


She's got a new hole in her neck.


Lol her habit of starting fights with everyone has made her comments section fun. She makes a video about being fat and the response is "oh that's why you're such a miserable cunt, got it."


She made fun of a woman who is making up a bottle for a reborn doll because she's wasting colic medicine and formula. Gets absolutely roasted in the comments. It's SATIRE!!!


The Terfening continues as she agrees with a gay man saying pre-k kids are being groomed by the trannies.


Picking fights with the "Long Covid" people and coveting the attention cancer patients get. She's on three transplant meds and way more important than them!!

Yeah what kind of lunatic would mutilate themselves with unnecessary surgery?

Next post: emergency abdominal surgery!! God I love when the set up the punchline for me.

Because her bowel has herniated through her jtube stoma and wrapped around her feeding tube again. She's given yet another j-tube stoma. Her body "doesn't like" button tubes (a cute way of saying "I keep gaining weight and ending up with buried bumper syndrome")

Hot chocolate bombs. Her friend can't understand how she can drink something like this. She totally got sick out both ends!!!


And she has deep vein thrombosis in her jugular just like Potsie Nicole.


And days after responding to a woman with lupus talking about her rash, she has one. What a coinkydink!


(Also it couldn't be further from the truth that people with hypermobility are hypermobile guys.)

That's all. She's still funny as fuck and I'm glad I checked her account again

 

[large_farva]

I just feel the need to point out that she has a severe case of crazy eyes.

 

[HerbertWest]

I was talking with an OT today and found out something interesting about a very innocuous munchie prop.

A lot of them use weighted blankets. We see them pop up all the time. But apparently they're contraindicated for pain and PTSD. Which all of those girls I've seen using them claim to have.

Just thought that was interesting.

I’ve seen people with presumably self diagnosed adhd and cptsd shilling weighted blankets to others on social media. Describing How it helped them to sleep and relax etc. If it’s helping, it’s all good by me, even if it’s just a placebo. For physical problems all I can say is that it’s absolutely awful for people with hyper mobility and spine issues, especially for those with CCI.

 

[VagueMantis]

We have a rare one that actually is facing legal consequences and was recently arrested. Maddie Russo claimed pancreatic cancer and had gofundme of £30,000/$37000. I am not a health provider but looks like she taped a feed machine to her chest as a port and cut the feed bag on a hanger and the end in her nose.

 

[HerbertWest]

Based terf Katie schmude lol. even broken clock is right twice a day.
Thanks katefarms , I was wondering what became of her, because she is delightfully batshit crazy and reminded me of my favourite munchie Kelly Ronahan.
If I remember this correctly, Katie is the one who started her munching by cutting and creating a gnarly gash in her leg to avoid some nurse exams, right?

 

[soryu2electricboogaloo]

I’ve seen people with presumably self diagnosed adhd and cptsd shilling weighted blankets to others on social media. Describing How it helped them to sleep and relax etc. If it’s helping, it’s all good by me, even if it’s just a placebo. For physical problems all I can say is that it’s absolutely awful for people with hyper mobility and spine issues, especially for those with CCI.

In the past 4 or so years, weighted blankets have been available to purchase to the regular consumer if you visit a big box department store. You can walk out of Walmart with a 15lb blanket for about $20 now. I remember about a decade ago, finding a weighted blanket cost you an online order of about $90+.

 

[Jimmy Dean Bowl]

@Vampyroteuthis infernalis - We've seen several subjects get a disc herniation. Not sure if you could fake your way into emergency surgery after that. You can have stenosis and not have cauda equina. Maybe a medfag like @std::string or @Thomas Eugene Paris can give their opinion. I know they do a bladder scan and test your reflexes after the MRI, but I'm not sure if you can just hold your urine and lie about it, or lie about parathesia and muscle weakness.

Spoiler

Laying in a hospital bed for several days with severe compression doesn't really add up to me. That really could leave a young person in a wheelchair for life. To the point you'd think they'd find her a surgery slot and drive her by ambulance anywhere in the region.

The good news is if she isn't paralyzed, there is some high quality milk when she's not immobilized from the anterior/posterior fusion she had. You can't walk without a walker for a period of time, and your bowels are messed up while they reposition themselves. After that we should get some really good contradictions.

further edit:
I know there are tests you can do to figure out how the muscles are working while trying to urinate - but I'm not sure they would have bothered and just took her word for it.

Lose weight kids. Even being slightly overweight sets you up for shit like this

I had thought that the decompression was done the day after admission, sorry I must have read that ass backwards - that changes everything.
If decompression surgery wasn't done within 48 hours of paralysis onset then I don't believe it could have been CES, just an ordinary decompression like anyone with persistent sciatica would get.
One of the tests done at admission for CES is for anal tone. If the patient has CES they will have reduced or no anal tone, and that's something that I don't believe can be faked.
Just a little sperg while we await the arrival of more knowledgeable Kiwis. It's been too long since I worked in the hospital and my brain has festered so I've turned into a spazz.

EDIT: SP

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

I had thought that the decompression was done the day after admission, sorry I must have read that ass backwards - that changes everything.
If decompression surgery wasn't done within 48 hours of paralysis onset then I don't believe it could have been CES, just an ordinary decompression like anyone with persistent sciatica would get.
One of the tests done at admission for CES is for anal tone. If the patient has CES they will have reduced or no anal tone, and that's something that I don't believe can be faked.
Just a little sperg while we await the arrival of more knowledgeable Kiwis. It's been too long since I worked in the hospital and my brain has festered so I've turned into a spazz.

EDIT: SP

He claimed in a video update (or maybe a text post? maybe both?) that he had no response when they tested his bowel and bladder. He had a catheter in, not sure what the deal with his bowels is but I do not want to know.

Personally I do think he is paralyzed for real (ETA: the long hospital stay, multiple surgeries, etc seems legit and I thankfully know nothing about SCIs), but I do also think he somehow brought it on himself. Even if it wasn't completely self induced, saying "I want to be paraplegic" will get karma's attention.

 

[TheBigZee]

I had thought that the decompression was done the day after admission, sorry I must have read that ass backwards - that changes everything.
If decompression surgery wasn't done within 48 hours of paralysis onset then I don't believe it could have been CES, just an ordinary decompression like anyone with persistent sciatica would get.
One of the tests done at admission for CES is for anal tone. If the patient has CES they will have reduced or no anal tone, and that's something that I don't believe can be faked.
Just a little sperg while we await the arrival of more knowledgeable Kiwis. It's been too long since I worked in the hospital and my brain has festered so I've turned into a spazz.

EDIT: SP

Nov 9th - says admitted a few days ago, surgery in next few days. The paralysis started while she was inpatient. Now she is paralyzed. Nov 10th says NPO after midnight. So it was within 24 hours of the first post, but several days after she was admitted. Microdiscectomy and laminectomy on the 10th it looks like. Intractable pain post surgery (figures), they do more MRIs and she gets a posterior/anterior fusion Nov 15th.

The rest of her posts imply they kept her for pain. Then she developed all the problems you get from laying in a hospital bed with a catheter in. Dunno if the pain management regime she was on could cause urinary retention.

It'd be wild

Spoiler

(from my experiences with cord compression, ers, and hospitals)

that it could progress so much and them not do anything about it sooner while she was inpatient. I know anything is possible b/c you can't necessarily see nerve injury, but it just seems wild.

Edit: Willfully ignoring Cauda Equina symptoms and going to the hospital after they've been there for a period of time is way you could paralyze yourself. Shit - I wonder if she just kept her mouth shut until it was severe while inpatient.

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

It'd be wild

Spoiler

(from my experiences with cord compression, ers, and hospitals)

that it could progress so much and them not do anything about it sooner while she was inpatient. I know anything is possible b/c you can't necessarily see nerve injury, but it just seems wild.

Edit: Willfully ignoring Cauda Equina symptoms and going to the hospital after they've been there for a period of time is way you could paralyze yourself.

See that's what gets me too. Emilee would be screeching about neglect and medical trauma if the hospital just left them alone to get paralyzed, or if they had somehow botched a surgery, or if things could in any way be the hospital's fault.

But if he were developing worse symptoms and purposefully ignored it? That's something you wouldn't want to post on Instagram. Knowing what I know about this particular munchie, she wouldn't wait until paralysis sets in to go to the ER - she would run/wheel in at the first sign of something that could become a hospital stay.

 

[std::string]

Personally I do think he is paralyzed for real (ETA: the long hospital stay, multiple surgeries, etc seems legit and I thankfully know nothing about SCIs), but I do also think he somehow brought it on himself. Even if it wasn't completely self induced, saying "I want to be paraplegic" will get karma's attention.

I can think of a way to self-induce CES but it's sort of out of the realm of expertise for munchies and would get you a nice stay in psych instead of surgical intervention since it would be fairly obvious. (it's lidocaine)

This does just seem like a case of bad luck and being fat.

 

[TheBigZee]

See that's what gets me too. Emilee would be screeching about neglect and medical trauma if the hospital just left them alone to get paralyzed, or if they had somehow botched a surgery, or if things could in any way be the hospital's fault.

But if he were developing worse symptoms and purposefully ignored it? That's something you wouldn't want to post on Instagram. Knowing what I know about this particular munchie, she wouldn't wait until paralysis sets in to go to the ER - she would run/wheel in at the first sign of something that could become a hospital stay.

You think it's possible s/he could have realized they had cauda equina symptoms after they were admitted and realized they could get their dream disability just by not saying anything?

Edit: I guess that's unknowable. Maybe she was just strung out on Diluadid and didn't realize it. But there is a scenario where she could have at least allowed it to happen after she ran to the hospital. Nerve injury sucks - even if he inflicted it on his self I hope he recovers enough (for her sake and ours) that we can laugh at him lying about how much he needs the wheelchar.

Spoiler

Maybe it's different for lumbar stenosis than cervical. The second I had a substantial change/worsening a resident with the spine center came to check on me.

 

[Jimmy Dean Bowl]

The fact she is still paralysed after surgery indicates either:
A) The surgeons never operated for CES on time - their fault - and she is permanently doubly incontinent and paraplegic
B) The surgeons never operated for CES on time - HER fault - and she is permanently doubly incontinent and paraplegic
C) The surgeons operated on time, decompressed the spinal nerves, and she is not paralysed, or temporarily paralysed (also happens).

Munchie paradise is B, you realise you have rapidly worsening symptoms, you can't feel your legs and you are becoming doubly incontinent. Very hard to hide though.
However, if the onset was slower she may have decided just to wait and see and try to milk it for a bit then it was a case of "Oh shit" literally once she couldn't feel her ass any more.

 

[VagueMantis]

Interesting development in the Maddie Russo cancer scammer recently arrested…. she followed a significant number of the munchies, frequently interacted with them and seems to have stolen many pictures from other munchies to pass as her own. If you scroll up, I included a photo where she taped a feeding tube to her chest to look like a port and taped a feeding set tubing inside her nose to look like a nasal feeding tube.

 

[A tree]

The fact she is still paralysed after surgery indicates either:
A) The surgeons never operated for CES on time - their fault - and she is permanently doubly incontinent and paraplegic
B) The surgeons never operated for CES on time - HER fault - and she is permanently doubly incontinent and paraplegic
C) The surgeons operated on time, decompressed the spinal nerves, and she is not paralysed, or temporarily paralysed (also happens).

Munchie paradise is B, you realise you have rapidly worsening symptoms, you can't feel your legs and you are becoming doubly incontinent. Very hard to hide though.
However, if the onset was slower she may have decided just to wait and see and try to milk it for a bit then it was a case of "Oh shit" literally once she couldn't feel her ass any more.

Is there a D)
Surgeons fucked up or accidentally caused damage?
Surely there's always that risk when you mess with the Spinal nerves.