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[AnOminous]

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I literally just commented yesterday or so about Fred being the only character who could come across as a Chad while wearing an ascot.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Since Scooby Doo's a recent topic in the thread, do you all have a favourite movie from the series? Hard mode: No Zombie Island.

Honestly, the Scooby Doo movies are mostly alright, never offensive, but never groundbreaking. I feel like the best ones are the crossovers mostly because of the passion the team seems to have for the thing Scooby is crossing over with nowadays, moreso than the Scooby gang itself.

In saying this, obviously Scooby Doo and Batman: The Brave & The Bold is great. Scooby and Batman have always fit together extremely well, but Brave & The Bold truly is the best adaptation for such a crossover. I hold a lot of love for B&B personally as I really enjoy the 60s aesthetic and the absolute love for the golden age the series has. It isn’t deep like BTAS, but it is a show with a lot of earnest to it that is severely lacking in modern writing, so it is always a joy to see this adaptation of the DC universe again. Great 10 year anniversary to the under appreciated third child of the main Batman cartoons, and I hope to see it again.

Courage should also be mentioned. While the crossover was a little rough, they definitely cared about the Courage IP. I am surprised it took 19 years for it to happen given the similar premises, but it was serviceable. All we need now is a crossover with Billy & Mandy to complete the CN trio.

Other than that, most crossovers with Scooby are pretty shit as the franchise is just clinging onto any random ass thing for relevancy. It doesn’t help that even in the ones I mentioned, the Scooby Doo gang feels like they have little involvement compared to say Johnny Bravo’s great crossover. I posted it in the Scooby thread, but the series really needs an update and to stop relying on crossovers to carry its ass.

 

[skykiii]

And they give a look to his sister who's remeniscent of Penny Gadget. Strange coincidence or is it a coincidence?

That's just what girls looked like back then. In the 1980s all girls regardless of age were tiny, blonde, and had double-ponytails. I bet you can't find a single piece of evidence to prove me wrong!

..... On the subject of Tim Curry's villain roles, never forget that he played the best ever take on Captain Hook. (... Did I seriously hear Captain Hook call someone a troon? Did that word even exist in 1990?)

On Scooby movies... I personally actually like Witch's Ghost more than Zombie Island.

 

[skykiii]

One of my favorites is Cyber Chase.

The Phantom Virus was awesome.

Scooby Doo & The Cyber Chase: The Phantom Virus

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I honestly would like a series where Spindly Johnny here comes back but as like a good guy and permanent team member, like if the mystery machine had a sentient computer or something.

 

[AnOminous]

..... On the subject of Tim Curry's villain roles, never forget that he played the best ever take on Captain Hook. (... Did I seriously hear Captain Hook call someone a troon? Did that word even exist in 1990?)

Tim Curry always brings an A-game even to absolutely ridiculous roles.

 

[Oats12345]

You know I know everyone is probably tired of talking about Velma. But I was thinking it's clear that wokies hate Velma and are trying to make up ways for them to say that it was a "hit job" because it's everything they been claiming every show to do down to the humor and to the full force and with that you got a very cringy woke show. So basically in denial that everything they want to see in a story is cringe even when it's up in their face like Velma

 

[A Grey Cat]

You know I know everyone is probably tired of talking about Velma.

I don't think anyone's ever gonna get tired of shit talking this show. We still have the remaining episodes of the season and the supposed second season to slog through.


Anyway to commemorate this thread reaching 500 pages may I present the oldest surviving work of western animation. 1908's fantasmagorie.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

You know I know everyone is probably tired of talking about Velma. But I was thinking it's clear that wokies hate Velma and are trying to make up ways for them to say that it was a "hit job" because it's everything they been claiming every show to do down to the humor and to the full force and with that you got a very cringy woke show. So basically in denial that everything they want to see in a story is cringe even when it's up in their face like Velma

Yes and no. When Wokies talk, they mostly just want works like Steven Universe or The Owl House, stuff that never crosses a line and is just gay adventure narrative. For adult animation, it is Inside Job, where the humor is references and jabs at Republicans.

Velma feels like a lib-shit show stuck in 2005. It never evolved to take on the new Dem audience and now gets shit on like Family Guy does for just being obnoxious. Woke-folk claim Family Guy is right-wing and have for years, even though it sucks Dems off hard. Velma has the race humor, body-shaming humor, and graphic violence that wokes hate Family Guy for, so it shouldn’t be much of a surprise that they hate it. Mindy wrote for the Office, a show even she claimed would never be made today, so her writing an anti-woke, woke piece ain’t weird. 2000s Dems and 2010s are two different breeds, Mindy doesn’t really seem to pick up on that fact and is playing to an audience that left her long ago.

 

[starborn427614]

You know I know everyone is probably tired of talking about Velma. But I was thinking it's clear that wokies hate Velma and are trying to make up ways for them to say that it was a "hit job" because it's everything they been claiming every show to do down to the humor and to the full force and with that you got a very cringy woke show. So basically in denial that everything they want to see in a story is cringe even when it's up in their face like Velma

Velma does feel like a parody of liberal shit, so I'm not surprised per se to see people point fingers at the right over it. They're wrong of course, but I get it.

 

[Trilby]

Velma does feel like a parody of liberal shit, so I'm not surprised per se to see people point fingers at the right over it. They're wrong of course, but I get it.

Sometimes people don't realize they're being jerked around like a tool.

That aside, here's a classic 50's cartoon in full aperture glory. Registration marks and peg bars ahoy!

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Also, on the topic of favourite non-Zombie Island Scooby Doo, I have a lot of love for the 'Where's My Mummy' movie. Loved a lot of the comedy, the variety of locals, Scooby and Shaggy getting a win, the Gang actually taking the time to worry about each other, Christine Baranski as crazy Lara Croft and the songs were a blast. I especially remember that, as a kid, the 'Paralysis Demon because we can't actually kill people' set up that a lot of kids shows used fucking terrified me more than actual on-screen deaths.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

God, I’m bored of Harley Quinn. I’m tired of superheroes in general.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

God, I’m tired of Harley Quinn. I’m bored of superheroes in general.

I enjoy the show to an extent. I am skeptical about this special as it seems like weird kink shit again, much like season 3’s horrid beginning.

This show is basically just a good version of Velma. Take a children’s franchise, make it adult, give an over-arching plot, etc.. Only difference is that Harley Quinn can be funny and have interesting plots despite the woke shit.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I would have liked this show a lot better had they handled the whole Ivy/Kiteman thing better rather than “Well Harley HAS to get with Ivy!”

 

[A Grey Cat]

God, I’m bored of Harley Quinn.

Remember when she was a hack pop psychologist turned joker fangirl and lackey? I miss that Harley. Stop turning her into your mouthpiece for woke shit and or your attempt to ride Deadpools coattails DC.

I’m tired of superheroes in general.

I miss the punisher, before they bastardized him he would have shown the capes heroism is for kiddies and suckers.


People got sick of superheroes once before 3 or so generations ago, sooner or later I wonder if that'll happen again.

(The decline of their popularity after wwII ended I'm referring too)

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

People got sick of superheroes once before 3 or so generations ago, sooner or later I wonder if that'll happen again.

It already is. If I had to guess, Batman and Spider-Man will be the survivors of the 2020s because at least they can produce interesting products. The MCU and likely DCU will fall apart. Capes are too expensive and provide little returns nowadays.

I would have liked this show a lot better had they handled the whole Ivy/Kiteman thing better rather than “Well Harley HAS to get with Ivy!”

Yeah, cannot disagree. That whole conflict ruined the second half of season 2 and first half of season 3. It came together eventually, but god, it was painful.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

500 pages in and the only thing I’m thinking about is the fact raunchy and cringeworthy scenes from Velma is making me want to watch Ren & Stimpy even more than usual. At least when John Kricfalusi was being pervy with women, him and his cartoon was still actually funny.

 

[KingLiberty76]

Seems like Craig's started work on the new PPG and Fosters shows.
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It's great to see people like Craig McCracken and Genndy Tartakovsky getting work, I would still hold my breath when it comes to the reboots, but I'll keep an open mind and hope it'll be good.

 

[Nuns with guns]

Velma is a prime example of how rotten our society currently is. It has homosexuality, nudity, wokeism, it's edgy, unfunny... it probably even has trannies too, but I don't want to look more into it.

The only silver lining is that it's not marketed as a kids show. But children's cartoons these days are full of fags and shitty stuff too.

Digital animation was a mistake. I don't care what any of you says, it ruined the medium. Now we have cookie-cutter shows that require zero skill to produce. The classics are still classics because those men were masters of their craft. Modern cartoons are souless and cause brainrot.