Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Foltest]

Well, two things:
Russia hasn't violated any treaties it's has signed,

Apart from all of those it has violated.
Budapest treaty from 1994 anyone? Where it stated it would respect the independent of their neighbors?

 

[102]

This thread's been pretty negative lately, so here's this.

2016 - Zelensky playing the piano with a Strap-On Dildo, pretending it's his penis.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy in 2016 recreated one of the show's most memorable bits, a five-minute performance in which he plays the piano with his penis, before a live audience of adoring fans. Clips of Zelenskyy's 2016 performance went viral over the weekend, and fans were particularly complimentary of his take on Jewish classic "Hava Nagila."

Here's a clip from when Zelensky first did the act, somehow looking even gayer

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Whose ganking who here? Is it a Russian killng a holhol or the other way round?

Either way, it confirms that trench warfare fucking sucks.

Hard to tell but I'm going to assume it's Russian ganking a holhol. Mainly because it's mostly Russia on the offensive right now and the guy who won that little engagement was part of the element assaulting the trench network.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Apart from all of those it has violated.
Budapest treaty from 1994 anyone? Where it stated it would respect the independent of their neighbors?

Well when the USA itself maintains that the Budapest Treaties are not legally binding and violated it themselves, can't expect Russia to play by different rules. But then again, this kind of thought process is above that of a plumber.

Oh here's a joke. When you meet someone for the first time, how can you tell if they are a Pole? Look down: Rusty zipper, yellow socks.

 

[White_N]

Apart from all of those it has violated.
Budapest treaty from 1994 anyone? Where it stated it would respect the independent of their neighbors?

Wow right for self determination bites UN right in the ass, to bad that they are unscrupulous opportunists.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Let's ignore that you can NOT win against Russia even when you think you are.

Imperial Germany won, though. See the treaty of Brest-Litovsk.

Yeah let's just neglect the fact that Russia is never attacked first, without a solid reason,

The latter sorta invalidates the former, though, doesn't it? Besides, that applies to most countries. Nazi Germany attacked Poland because they were illegally (in violation of the treaty of Versailles) oppressing the Free City of Danzig who wanted to unify with Germany. In that sense, the Germans had a solid reason to invade. Germans invaded the Soviets because (as a result of Germany helping USSR's army to modernize as per Molotov-Ribbentrop pact) Germany feared that if USSR was allowed to stay alone, the Soviet army would become nigh-unstoppable, and they would break the treaty, just like the Soviets did by annexing more of Romania than they were promised. In that sense, Germans had a good reason here too. US invaded Iraq because it wanted it's oil and gold (Source 1, 2, 3, 4) (something they are still allegedly stealing today). That's a decent reason, ain't it? Sure as hell could help US. Point is, "solid reason" is just a thing a winner says to justify their actions.

In other words, your perception of "Russia is ewil and avways been a threat to us fluffy Europeans UwU" is base don't your derangement and revanchism, the very thing you always blame us in yet neglect/deny in your homelands, which makes you a hypocritical piece of butthurt belt fecal matter.

Problem is, and I think you address it too, is that "Russia has always been historically a threat" is an argument that can be made for any European state. If we take recent history, Poland had annexed parts of Ukraine in 1919 (the rest retaken by the Soviets), big parts of Ukrainian and Belarussian lands in 1921, big parts of Lithuania, parts of Czechoslovakia (in both Czech (1919,1924,1938) and Slovakian regions), Weimar republic. And that's just Poland.

who cares about some treaty?

This exact view is why we have this crisis to begin with.

Russia hasn't violated any treaties it's has signed

If we count USSR then it did. If we don't, than aside from Minsk accords (which no party actually followed), or Geneva convention (again, same), then maybe, yeah. Though I am likely wrong on this.

Your claim was that Russia is the USSR. Not that it is somehow related to it.

It is the successor state, an inheritor. Russia certainly, currently, isn't a communist state.

I asked him why he doesn't go out and ask people in Crimea about what they think instead of condemning people that report on it who have come from there.

Because Crimea is pro-Russia. They can't allow themselves to admit it anymore. US sponsored poll in 2014 was forced to admit it, and same is true for 2015 German poll (conducted in Russian).

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Ukraine actually has more available manpower for this war.
It's easier to motivate a man to defend his home than invade somewhere else, besides actually supplying them so far from home.
Foreign donations allow more men to fight instead of working in weapons factories.

No. The Donbass is no longer Ukraine, so their residents are unavailable to the AFU, that's about 4 million; about 10 million are in Poland, 3 million in Russia. Hungary got 2 million, around 3.5 million in Moldova,Romania and Slovakia. Those are just the ones that bother to sign up for yuro gibs status, at least a couple million GTFO ran to the US and Israel and maybe 1 million to other countries around the world. That's maybe 24-25 million out of a population of 40 million, pre war (we don't know for sure because Ukraine hasn't done a census since 2001). Of what's left half are the elderly, women and children; then there are the sick and disabled.

Since the AFU has collapsed the conscripted have to be trained, housed, fed, clothed and armed (that is if they're given training, many POWs say they were give two-three weeks at a NATO center and then sent to the front). Specialized training is now being done by other countries, since Ukraine lacks the capacity and infrastructure. They have to leave and come back, and I bet many simply don't return. There are no weapons factories operating in Ukraine, that's what Russia targeted at the start.

Mind you, this is just what a person can deduce merely from looking at numbers and reports from the government of Ukraine. The UN has refugee numbers. Materiel has to be sent out to other countries for repairs, probably the countries people here reside in. Its announced when soldiers are being trained in those other countries. Ukraine is demanding tanks and weaponry from the West because theirs have been all but destroyed. The situation is far more dire than whatever news outlet you get your information from. You can see the status of Ukraine from simply looking at the information their government and their allied governments put out.

At some point survival becomes more important than the language and ethnicity of the tax collector.

Russia also has other commitments to defending its long border and treaty allies.

Russia is outnumbered by the AFU yet advancing and taking territory. Russia has not declared war so they haven't even put their military on a war footing. Their borders are fine and have no issue meeting any treaty obligations.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

about 10 million are in Poland, 3 million in Russia. Hungary got 2 million, around 3.5 million in Moldova,Romania and Slovakia.

Poland has around 35 million residents, Hungary around 9 million. It is impossible to keep that numbers of refugees in that countries.

There are no weapons factories operating in Ukraine, that's what Russia targeted at the start.

They mostly import weapons, from small arms to tanks.

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Honestly, I'm tired.

In february 2022 ruzzia was just going to win in 3 days. Didn't won

In april 2022 ruzzia was able to take Kiev whit LOOOONG KAWAII. Didn't get near of it.

In late summer 2022 ruzzia was talking about HUGE mobilization and MASSIVe strike. Nothing happened.

Last fall ruzzia was sepaking how Europe will die from cold due to gas and gasoline blockade. Well, nothing happened again.

Now according to ruzzia Ukraina is runing out of men (I heard that year ago also). So, why ruzzia is STILL only in Donbas and Crimea? What cope we will hear in spring, then in summer and in rest of '23 when ruzzia will be in the same place? How long suckers of Putin balls will cope with reality, that ruzzia is loosing war and everything is getting out of their hands?

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

Their borders are fine and have no issue meeting any treaty obligations.

Russia was unable to meet its obligations to protect Armenia due to the current conflict in ukraine.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Russia was unable to meet its obligations to protect Armenia due to the current conflict in ukraine.

And that action was masterpiece of westerm-backed Azers. That just thrown in the toilet all that CSTO thing.

No one after that will take a alliance with ruzzia. They aren't be able to stop a thiny country from harrasing they allies, so what is the point?

 

[nukelol]

Well, two things:
Russia hasn't violated any treaties it's has signed, unlike the US. The fact that the US does and everyone supporting the UKR is willing to just accept it is why the rest of the world is turning against the west.

Secondly, correct punctuation is important (capitalisation in this case) because it's difficult to read or take your points seriously if you don't do it.

nobody cares abt treaties. its pointless to argue abt this. russia invades crimea, violating treaty to not invade ukraine since ukraine gave nukes up. everybody bitches abt legality and reinterprets shit. nato violates treaty to not expand east. more legality bitching. shit gets reinterpreted. rinse and repeat since the beginning of time.

Your claim was that Russia is the USSR. Not that it is somehow related to it.

no. russia was the ussr. it also was the russian empire. and before that it was a tsardom. today its a federation. its all still russia.

No, this is the Russian Empire. No Ukraine visible.

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back then ukraine was one of the many subjects of the russian people within their empire.

This exact view is why we have this crisis to begin with.

im not saying i like it. im just saying thats how it is and always will be.

 

[Glowie]

Bakhmut holds

Ukraine border guard clearing Russians in Luhansk

Meanwhile russian advances are being repelled on all fronts with no significant gains.
Southern front attacks canceled as well ones in eastern front. No signs from Wagner group or a word from Prigozhin

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Poland has around 35 million residents, Hungary around 9 million. It is impossible to keep that numbers of refugees in that countries.

This is what the UN reported:

Situation Ukraine Refugee Situation

data.unhcr.org

This doesn't mean they didn't go elsewhere, or maybe even returned. But we do know 10 million or so Ukrainians declared themselves refugees in Poland.

They mostly import weapons, from small arms to tanks.

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Honestly, I'm tired.

In february 2022 ruzzia was just going to win in 3 days. Didn't won

In april 2022 ruzzia was able to take Kiev whit LOOOONG KAWAII. Didn't get near of it.

In late summer 2022 ruzzia was talking about HUGE mobilization and MASSIVe strike. Nothing happened.

Last fall ruzzia was sepaking how Europe will die from cold due to gas and gasoline blockade. Well, nothing happened again.

Now according to ruzzia Ukraina is runing out of men (I heard that year ago also). So, why ruzzia is STILL only in Donbas and Crimea? What cope we will hear in spring, then in summer and in rest of '23 when ruzzia will be in the same place? How long suckers of Putin balls will cope with reality, that ruzzia is loosing war and everything is getting out of their hands?

Nuu we are not running out of soldiers!

Everything is fine



ruZZia is failing



Halp me I'm winning



If Ukraine is doing so well then they don't need Leopards, Bradleys, Challengers, Strykers and trillions of dollars, right? So return it.

All of it. Right now.

With interest.

 

[White_N]

no. russia was the ussr.

Russia was RSFSR you tard. And its Jewish leader has written tens of books on how to fight "Russian chauvinism" and how Russia is a prison of nations. All the Union republics were planned to be created to be a counterweight to Russian nationalism, and it was an obvious and open policy.
If you want to be ignorant, fine, but stop insisting on this idiocy.

 

[Meh123]

In february 2022 ruzzia was just going to win in 3 days. Didn't won

This debunked bs again...

In april 2022 ruzzia was able to take Kiev whit LOOOONG KAWAII. Didn't get near of it.

Again, this debunked shit.. Russia was pretty nice and gentle at the beginning of this shit, and tried to scare UA to the bargaining table without major casualties. Then Boris swooped in, and it's suddenly "to the last ukrainian". Now that's happening.

In late summer 2022 ruzzia was talking about HUGE mobilization and MASSIVe strike. Nothing happened.

"Huge" as in 300k mobilized - done.
"MASSIVe strike" - I guess the missing UA infrastructure is due to elves stealing transformers and blowing up pgens.. Also the current grinding up of the whole AFU is russian propaganda, nothing else. That's why they're now snatching people from the streets..

Last fall ruzzia was sepaking how Europe will die from cold due to gas and gasoline blockade. Well, nothing happened again.

Fuel prices up by 100%, many business closing down because they can't pay the exorbitant utility bills, but everything is fine I guess...

Now according to ruzzia Ukraina is runing out of men (I heard that year ago also). So, why ruzzia is STILL only in Donbas and Crimea? What cope we will hear in spring, then in summer and in rest of '23 when ruzzia will be in the same place? How long suckers of Putin balls will cope with reality, that ruzzia is loosing war and everything is getting out of their hands?

Implying you know the endgame for "Ruzzia" and Putin. If you'd only pull your head out of your ass..

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Bakhmut holds

Sure about that, Glownegger?

Russian troops knocked the Armed Forces of Ukraine out of the first houses in Artemovsk

No signs from Wagner group or a word from Prigozhin

How about Denis Pushilin instead?

Earlier, the acting head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, reported fierce fighting between the Wagner PMC and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the outskirts of Artemovsk and in the city itself.

"We are practically in Artemovsk. "And there are already the first houses taken," said a soldier of a Russian military unit.
According to him, the AFU fighters have begun to abandon their positions and surrender more frequently. They understand that "a force has come that will punish them," the fighter said.

I don't think they will get spankings, either.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Implying you know the endgame for "Ruzzia" and Putin.

They have no viabla endgame. Their are unable to win this war.

For gods sake, it is nearly year of war and ruzzia accomplished nothing. They even retreat from capital of annexed oblast. It is like Desert Storm taking whole year at whit retreat from Kuwait City in the end.

Fuel prices up by 100%, many business closing down because they can't pay the exorbitant utility bills, but everything is fine I guess...

Told me more about living in EU, because I don't see any of this expect some increase in gasoline price.

Russia was pretty nice and gentle at the beginning of this shit

Mass murdering thousands in Maryupol and Butscha?

So, they was nice, and this is reason why the mighty ruzzia loose Kherson, all of north front and so one, yes?

"MASSIVe strike" - I guess the missing UA infrastructure is due to elves stealing transformers and blowing up pgens..

Probably they aren't using mobilized ruzzkies as missiles, but maybye... and what was the point of hitting infrastructure? Ukraine still have electricity and heat in cities, so also it failed.

But we do know 10 million or so Ukrainians declared themselves refugees in Poland.

Fake news. They was around 8 million crossing of border between Poland and Ukraine, but firstly in both directions, secondly this counts also polish personel going into Ukraine.

This is what the UN reported:

That report is pointing around 1,5 million Ukrainian refugees in Poland. Nowhere they wrote about 10 mln refugees even in total.

Also, another sources are stating that number: https://www.eib.org/en/stories/ukrainian-poland-infrastructure-refugees for example.

If Ukraine is doing so well then they don't need Leopards, Bradleys, Challengers, Strykers and trillions of dollars, right? So return it.

If ruzzia is winning they probably captured some big cities in this month, right? Not a town with one mine, right?

 

[TrulyMan]

Because Crimea is pro-Russia. They can't allow themselves to admit it anymore. US sponsored poll in 2014 was forced to admit it, and same is true for 2015 German poll (conducted in Russian).

Yeah, but why. Like we here understand that this is obviously a fact. What is their end game, all these former idealists and soft hearts. Like do they just don't want to see the reality that Crimea and the Donbass can never again be Ukranian unless there is a genocide of Russians there? And if so what do they want Ukraine to do ultimately?
Do Appreciate that US Poll though, that's as official as it gets. Good to have.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

That report is pointing around 1,5 million Ukrainian refugees in Poland. Nowhere they wrote about 10 mln refugees even in total.

10 million crossed into Poland from Ukraine, the other numbers are of those applying for gibs, claiming refugee status for said gibs. Many have have gone elsewhere, and some even went back. No one knows for sure but the scale of people who left, and have not returned, is ongoing, and its unprecedented.

If ruzzia is winning they probably captured some big cities in this month, right? Not a town with one mine, right?

You have to go back and read what I and others posted earlier. I am finished giving basic military strategy lessons. Artemovosk is about to fall into Russia's hands, as is Zaporozhye.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Like do they just don't want to see the reality that Crimea and the Donbass can never again be Ukranian unless there is a genocide of Russians there?

Not so far ago german cities of Koenigsberg, Breslau and Eger was rapidly clear from Germans and resettled by ruzzkies, Poles and Czechs.

I don't see any problem with doing the same with pro-ruzzkies suporters in Crimea after war. Just another day in Europe.