Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Useful_Mistake]

Yeah, but why. Like we here understand that this is obviously a fact.

Because that challenges their claims that the annexation referendum was a sham, and as well challenges their claims about how bad Russia is. Or that is what I think anyway. Denying this fact allows them some propaganda leeway, admitting it makes them look bad as they tried to stop the people from being where they wanted to be.

 

[TrulyMan]

Not so far ago german cities of Koenigsberg, Breslau and Eger was rapidly clear from Germans and resettled by ruzzkies, Poles and Czechs.

I don't see any problem with doing the same with pro-ruzzkies suporters in Crimea after war. Just another day in Europe.

That would be throwing all their supposed legitimacy of "international law" and "human rights" under the buss for all future conflicts forever. Its a big hit to take. I can see some radical Ukranians going there but the West would commit diplomatic suicide since all we have is being "the good guys" at least officially in some peoples eyes.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

10 million crossed into Poland from Ukraine, the other numbers are of those applying for gibs, claiming refugee status for said gibs. Many have have gone elsewhere, and some even went back

Read before send. The same table says that are BORDING CROSSINGS, and about 6 million of them was from Poland to Ukraine.

I explain it this way: let's say you are a truck driver, and you are going every week from country A to country B for 50 weeks in a year. You generate 100 border crossings.

You have to go back and read what I and others posted earlier. I am finished giving basic military strategy lessons.

So, what was the strategy about leaving Kherson and retreating from Kiev and Kharkov?

Bakhmut is about to fall into Russia's hands, as is Zaporozhye.

And what cope you will use when in summer they still be no ruzzkies in Zaporozhye?

 

[TrulyMan]

Because that challenges their claims that the annexation referendum was a sham, and as well challenges their claims about how bad Russia is. Or that is what I think anyway. Denying this fact allows them some propaganda leeway, admitting it makes them look bad as they tried to stop the people from being where they wanted to be.

I know...So its like, because they don't want their feelings hurt and admit they are wrong, they'd rather support a war with no end in sight, that either moves into a frozen conflict a la Palestine for 50 years or ends up in Nuclear armageddon. It's kinda sad.

Still I think there are aspects of fear of career suicide and some vain hope of "convincing" the Russians who live there to become Ukranians again maybe.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

That would be throwing all their supposed legitimacy of "international law" and "human rights"

No one give a shit about that when they bombed Belgrad in 1999, right?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

This video has been floating around Ukrainian telegrams, allegedly portraying a Russian apartment block. The voiceover says "Thank god that we live in Russia, and not America." as it pans around massive piles of garbage, decaying apartment buildings, and ancient rusty cars. Horrifying stuff, eh?

...except that this is footage from a NATO member country, Bulgaria. It's a gypsy ghetto called Stolipinovo, in the city of Plovdiv. Sorry Ukraine bros, you've been debunked.

The Largest Gypsy Ghetto in Europe - Stolipinovo, Bulgaria - YOMADIC

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The Largest Gypsy Ghetto in Europe - Stolipinovo, Bulgaria - YOMADIC

Recently listed as the number one worse place on the planet to take a short vacation, Stolipinovo is a shocking parallel world that defies belief.

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Charming place. Makes me think that if Ukraine joined NATO, it would've ended up looking just like that.

But at least they have pride parades!

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Read before send. The same table says that are BORDING CROSSINGS, and about 6 million of them was from Poland to Ukraine.

I explain it this way: let's say you are a truck driver, and you are going every week from country A to country B for 50 weeks in a year. You generate 100 border crossings.

So, what was the strategy about leaving Kherson and retreating from Kiev and Kharkov?

You think they went back to Ukraine, especially after the Doritos rained down in Kiev? When they could fuck off to Europe, the US and Canada, something the vast majority wanted to do for the longest?



OK Candide.

And what cope you will use when in summer they still be no ruzzkies in Zaporozhye?

There won't be any Ukrainians there for sure.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Bakhmut holds
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Ukraine border guard clearing Russians in Luhansk
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Meanwhile russian advances are being repelled on all fronts with no significant gains.
Southern front attacks canceled as well ones in eastern front. No signs from Wagner group or a word from Prigozhin

Sorry bruh, you've been deboonked.

Prigozhin on the objectives of the actions of PMC "Wagner" in the Artemovsk region.

“The task of taking Bakhmut is to destroy the Ukrainian army in the vicinity of the city and prevent any offensive actions in any direction of the front. All of their combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are sent to Bakhmut. And PMC "Wagner" destroys them, opening up operational opportunities in other areas "(c) Prigozhin

Intel Slava Z

🇷🇺🇺🇦 ⚡Prigozhin on the objectives of the actions of PMC "Wagner" in the Artemovsk region. “The task of taking Bakhmut is to destroy the Ukrainian army in the vicinity of the city and prevent any offensive actions in any direction of the front. All of their combat-ready units of the Armed Forces...

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Meanwhile Ukrainian government is undergoing a purge. Dozens of people got shitcanned, including Kirill Tymoshnenko. More info to come later.

Ukrainian Deputy Minister of Communities, Territories and Infrastructure Ivan Lukerya has resigned

Another resignation — now the Ukrainian Deputy Minister of Communities, Territories and Infrastructure has left the post "of his own volition"

Another resignation in a day, and this time again deputy — the post was left "at his own request" by Deputy Minister of Community Development, Territories and Infrastructure Ivan Lukerya. A number of media outlets claim that the purge is taking place against the background of a corruption scandal with the provision for food of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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t.me

Here's Zelensky thanking the sponsors of this war, BlackRock, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and others. Don't forget to tip the clown, ladies and gentlemen!

...and in even funnier news, Finland is considering withdrawing their NATO application because NATO is gay and useless.

Finnish Foreign Minister: We may have to reconsider pursuing the NATO membership application if the Swedish application is delayed for a longer period

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🇫🇮🌐⚠️ — 🇫🇮 Finnish Foreign Minister: We may have to reconsider pursuing the NATO membership application if the Swedish application is delayed for a longer period

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For some news out of Poland, they're openly discussing the partition of Ukraine now, to no one's surprise.

In an interview to the Polish Commercial Radio Station "Radio ZET", Mr. Radosław Sikorski, well-known in Poland for being the Former Minister of Defence of Poland, Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, former Marshal of the Polish Sejm (Polish Parliament) and a Member of the European Parliament (MEP) for the Pro-EU "Civic Platform" party, accuses the current Government of Poland, led by Law and Justice Party (PiS), of plotting and considering the partition of Ukraine in the first week of the War in Ukraine, where Polish Armed Forces would seize by force Western Ukraine.

Such point about a possible Polish intervention in Western Ukraine, which routinely appear in speeches by government officials and state media in Russia, who accuse Poland of planning to take the Lands of "Galicia" and "Lodomeria", now appear clearly in the mouth of a Pro-EU figure, as Mr. Sikorski well-known is.

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🇵🇱❌🇺🇦❓ — In an interview to the Polish Commercial Radio Station "Radio ZET", Mr. Radosław Sikorski, well-known in Poland for being the Former Minister of Defence of Poland, Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, former Marshal of the Polish Sejm (Polish Parliament) and a Member of the European...

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Meanwhile Hungary is undergoing a purge too, except they're purging all pro-NATO officers in their ranks. Anyone wants to guess why?

Hundreds of high-ranking military officers sacked in Hungary - Daily News Hungary

The ministry of defence started to sack hundreds of high-ranking military officers, including generals and colonels. Here is why

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Hundreds of high-ranking military officers sacked in Hungary - Daily …

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Multiple Hungarian media outlets reported that Hungary’s defence minister sacked hundreds of high-ranking military officers. The people concerned have two months to leave and will get 70 percent of their current salaries as a pension-like allowance even if they continue to work. The minister says the move served the rejuvenation and modernisation of the army. The opposition believes the government fired pro-NATO officers.

Hungarian military officers fired The ministry of defence began to sack hundreds of high-ranking military officers, including generals and colonels. The decision follows a government decree allowing officers to retire after 25 years in service. It seems, in most cases, the minister and the ministry decide instead of the officers.

The ministry says this move served the aim to modernise the army and pave the way to the rise of a new officer generation. Media reports about more than a hundred generals, colonels and other high-ranking officers sent away. Meanwhile, the former defence secretary and the Democratic Coalition’s MP, Ágnes Vadai, counted around 170 officers on Thursday. She added the officers sent away were pro-NATO. Based on information she acquired from the ministry, the final number can reach one thousand, telex.hu wrote. Political loyalty will be the deciding factor in the Hungarian Defence Forces, she highlighted. The ministry did not answer the questions of Telex.

Defence minister discusses defence cooperation with Serbian counterpart Hungary and Serbia agree that peace in Ukraine is a priority, and that small and mid-size countries are especially vulnerable to the consequences of the war, Defence Minister Kristóf Szalay-Bobrovniczky said after meeting Milos Vucevic, his Serbian counterpart, in Belgrade on Friday. The ministers discussed cooperation opportunities between the countries and the ministries.

Hungary has consistently called for a ceasefire and for peace since the war started, Szalay-Bobrovniczky stressed after the talks. At the same time, this is the first time in the history of both countries that they had to react to changing security situations from the east and the south simultaneously, he said. Serbia is “the leading country of the Western Balkans”, and the region faces ongoing security threats, Szalay-Bobrovniczky underlined. Tensions have escalated between Serbia and Kosovo lately, he noted. Hungary supports Serbia’s EU accession because it would aid the stability of the region, he said.

Hungary has sent troops to the region to improve stability, the defence minister said. “Hungary has significant troops in NATO’s mission in Kosovo, and headed the force’s command in the past year,” he explained. The commander’s work “in a very precarious time and place” was praised by the Serbian, Kosovan and international communities, Szalay-Bobrovniczky added. Hungarian troops are also involved in the EU’s mission in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and a Hungarian commander will take over leadership there next year, he added. The ministers discussed the achievements of Hungarian-Serbian defence cooperation as well as future possibilities in the defence industry, Szalay-Bobrovniczky said.
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[Useful_Mistake]

Poland has reportedly asked for an export license for 14 Leopard 2 tanks.

Poland has sent an official request to Germany asking for permission to send tanks to Ukraine, Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak said Tuesday.

Poland will ask for reimbursement from the European Union for any Leopard tanks it sends to Ukraine, the Polish prime minister said Tuesday.

"WE ALL MUST DO OUR PART TO SUPPORT UKRAINE!"
"Will you donate, Mr. Poland?"
"NO! EU PAY FOR POLAND GIFT OR POLAND NO DO GIFT TO UKRAINE!"

Polish generosity in full effect.

He said that Viacheslav Nehoda, the Deputy Minister of Communities and Territories Development of Ukraine, and Vitalii Muzychenko, Deputy Minister of Social Policy of Ukraine, had been dismissed.

They join Viacheslav Shapovalov, a Deputy Minister of Defense, and Ivan Lukerya, a Deputy Minister of Communities and Territories Development, in leaving the government.

The dismissals follow that of Vasyl Lozynskyy, the Acting Minister of Communities and Territories Development.

Ukraine's Infrastructure Ministry said on Sunday that Lozynskyy had been arrested on suspicion of embezzlement. He has not commented on the allegations.

That's not good.

US and Western officials are urging Ukraine to shift its focus from the brutal, months-long fight in the eastern city of Bakhmut and prioritize instead a potential offensive in the south, using a different style of fighting that takes advantage of the billions of dollars in new military hardware recently committed by Western allies, US and Ukrainian officials tell CNN.
It is not clear, however, that Zelensky feels prepared to abandon Bakhmut.

People familiar with his thinking tell CNN that Zelensky does not believe that a Russian victory in Bakhmut is a fait accompli, and that he remains reluctant to give it up. Holding Bakhmut would give Ukraine a better chance at taking back the entire Donbas region, Zelensky believes, and that if Russia wins, it will give them an opening to advance further to the strategically important eastern cities of Slovyansk and Kramatorsk.

Western officials join US and urge Ukraine to abandon Bakhmut because it's worthless. Though, weirdly, the article mentions that it's super important for Ukraine to take over Donbas. Which is it?

China and India have expanded their trade with Russia. In 2022, China set a record high for both exports and imports. India's trade value increased by 3.4 times the same period last year with a cumulative total of 1 ～ November. It effectively supports the procurement of Russian labor costs that have invaded Ukraine, and is a loophole in anti-Ross sanctions.

According to the China Customs Office, the amount of mid-Russia trade in 22 years increased by 190.3 billion dollars （ about 24 trillion yen ） by 3% from the previous year, the highest for the second consecutive year.

But I was told that the sanctions worked...

 

[Random Internet Person]

The pro-Russia side, 24/7:
Please bro, you have to believe us, US is really bad, they really affect you, please bro, think of the thousands of Vietnamese and Iraqis please bro look at the Guantanamo prison our brothers in Allah got tortured please bro the US hurts you really bad the West is colonial and evil please bro, think of the third world alliances we could have please bro you could literally go be an electrician or teacher in bantu lands please bro everyone outside the Evil Zapad loves Russia

Needs more mentions of Israel and rainbows and pride.

 

[nukelol]

Russia was RSFSR you tard. And its Jewish leader has written tens of books on how to fight "Russian chauvinism" and how Russia is a prison of nations. All the Union republics were planned to be created to be a counterweight to Russian nationalism, and it was an obvious and open policy.
If you want to be ignorant, fine, but stop insisting on this idiocy.

it doesnt matter how many autistic initialisms u give it, it was russia. a communist takeover that lasted several decades doesnt erase a millennia of it being russia. sorry u find that statement so controversial.

 

[Glowie]

Sure about that, Glownegger?

Russian troops knocked the Armed Forces of Ukraine out of the first houses in Artemovsk

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How about Denis Pushilin instead?

Earlier, the acting head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, reported fierce fighting between the Wagner PMC and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the outskirts of Artemovsk and in the city itself.

"We are practically in Artemovsk. "And there are already the first houses taken," said a soldier of a Russian military unit.
According to him, the AFU fighters have begun to abandon their positions and surrender more frequently. They understand that "a force has come that will punish them," the fighter said.

I don't think they will get spankings, either.

Denis Pushilin the puppet head of DPR? True and honest™ Putin waterboy, no way he couldn't lie just to save his ass, like every other vranyo spewing politician who wants to keep his head.
Putin pretty much distanced himself from Prigozhin after he shit talked about russian army, lied and got caught.
Like I mentioned before Prigozhin wanted power, possibly run for president in 2014 is more

Why are you showing a map from two days ago where Russians were shelling southern Bakhmut two days ago? Get more updates, my dear Amerikaner

Also this Poshilin? He's bogged down by Ukrainian defenses while bullshitting on Russian television for clout yesterday.

Even papers in Norway report on this shit

ISW also writes that the group apparently made progress in the war, but that they were unable to fulfill their promise to conquer Bakhmut with their own forces.

They believe that Putin gave Prigozhin confidence after the Russian military suffered catastrophic setbacks over time, some time ago.

Moreover
And there are already the first houses taken.

Embarassing I'm sure that you

I know it's near day difference between you and +3 GMT.

I'm sure that you can do better.

 

[Fascist Kirk]

It will make a difference, because once it is demonstrated that Putin is just being seething pussy with his “ sending tanks is a declaration of war” rhetoric, then more tanks will arrive.

Germans of all people ought to know that an armored attack eastward in Ukraine to fight Russians is a one way trip.

This doesn't mean they didn't go elsewhere, or maybe even returned. But we do know 10 million or so Ukrainians declared themselves refugees in Poland.

Nuu we are not running out of soldiers!

When Ukraine is drained of ukrainains, zionist will move in and re-instate Khazaria. Nudelman will be the new president and Soros cfo.

 

[Involuntary Celebrity]

This video has been floating around Ukrainian telegrams, allegedly portraying a Russian apartment block. The voiceover says "Thank god that we live in Russia, and not America." as it pans around massive piles of garbage, decaying apartment buildings, and ancient rusty cars. Horrifying stuff, eh?
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...except that this is footage from a NATO member country, Bulgaria. It's a gypsy ghetto called Stolipinovo, in the city of Plovdiv. Sorry Ukraine bros, you've been debunked.

The Largest Gypsy Ghetto in Europe - Stolipinovo, Bulgaria - YOMADIC

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The Largest Gypsy Ghetto in Europe - Stolipinovo, Bulgaria - YOMADIC

Recently listed as the number one worse place on the planet to take a short vacation, Stolipinovo is a shocking parallel world that defies belief.

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Charming place. Makes me think that if Ukraine joined NATO, it would've ended up looking just like that.
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But at least they have pride parades!

pretty sure that's LA bro

 

[TrulyMan]

No one give a shit about that when they bombed Belgrad in 1999, right?

They bomb cities all the time, its different if they literally expel/murder an entire ethnic group.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

So how's that Finland and Sweden NATO membership application coming along? Just two more weeks, right fellas?

"The negotiations scheduled for February with Sweden and Finland within the framework of the trilateral mechanism on their accession to NATO have been postponed," - This was reported to TASS also on Tuesday by a diplomatic source in Ankara.

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t.me

Edit: Some chatter about the Ukrainian PM resigning. Will try to find more sources. Having a large chunk of the government step down while another part of the government dies in a mysterious helicopter crash are signs of a totally functional and definitely non-corrupt government in a totally real country that is totally winning a war, right?

Edit 2: And yet another zrada!

The Czech Republic cannot supply Ukraine with Leopard 2 tanks, because they are needed to ensure the country's own security, the Czech prime minister said.

https://t.me/intelslava/43716

 

[Random Internet Person]

Edit: Some chatter about the Ukrainian PM resigning. Will try to find more sources. Having a large chunk of the government step down while another part of the government dies in a mysterious helicopter crash are signs of a totally functional and definitely non-corrupt government in a totally real country that is totally winning a war, right?

But what’s the endgame?

 

[Meh123]

Meanwhile Hungary is undergoing a purge too, except they're purging all pro-NATO officers in their ranks. Anyone wants to guess why?

Hundreds of high-ranking military officers sacked in Hungary - Daily News Hungary

The ministry of defence started to sack hundreds of high-ranking military officers, including generals and colonels. Here is why

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https://archive.ph/AIiG5

That might or might not mean anything. Could be just Orbán putting his lackeys in place to prevent any "problem" come next elections.

 

[LeChampion1992]

This is what the UN reported:

Situation Ukraine Refugee Situation

data.unhcr.org

This doesn't mean they didn't go elsewhere, or maybe even returned. But we do know 10 million or so Ukrainians declared themselves refugees in Poland.


Nuu we are not running out of soldiers!

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Everything is fine

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ruZZia is failing

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Halp me I'm winning

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If Ukraine is doing so well then they don't need Leopards, Bradleys, Challengers, Strykers and trillions of dollars, right? So return it.

All of it. Right now.

With interest.

The entire premise of Ruzzia is losing, Ukraine is losing is retarded.

Both sides have made tactical blunders but unless you literally put your head in the sand and believe the Kremlin, Ukraine has an advantage when it comes to mobile warfare logistics.

The Russians seem to favor any situation where the situation on the ground is muddy and static as you can simply throw bodies at a problem during trench combat.

As for combat casualties it's pretty safe to say about 100k+ for both major sides is about right. Not to mention the Russians have probably killed at least a quarter million people already.

The Russian military has more wiggle room, they can fail multiple times and still ultimately win the war because they have numbers. However they don't have the significant morale behind them, and they lack much of the modern weaponry.

There is about to be an age old question of does superior weaponry even matter if numbers can overwhelm the lines.

So how's that Finland and Sweden NATO membership application coming along? Just two more weeks, right fellas?

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Turkieye could delay NATO membership but ultimately there is too much money on the table for turkieye to lose. Give it a few more months the coalition will most likely hold.

Especially that fakenews about Poles dispute about invading Ukraine was a "fact". Only fact is that after a month long battle ruzzkies was able to capture a small town. One small town.

Intel Slavia Z is always hilariously stupid.

You can easily search for my opinion about how long (few years) this war will take and what are aims of both sides (ruzzia - their just stupied; NATO/Ukraina - to destroy as much ruzzia military). That isn't my problem that you are beliving in junk like Hungary/Poland/Turkey/Bolivia invading Ukraine.

Hungry is invading Ukraine for Russia? Yeah that seems like a cope. Hungarian leader more then likely fired some of the pro NATO officers so as not to get a coup d'etat happening any time soon. As for Poland why would Poland invade a country it's defacto supporting. Same thing with Turkieye Erdogan and Zelinsky surprisingly see eye to eye. As for Bolivia has he not seen Bolivia it's a land locked Latin American country with one of the weakest armies in south America.

You are loosing the grip whit reality.

Most of the Z people have lost it. Then again all the Ukraine flag people who can't find it on a map lost their minds circa 2017 around Charlottesville when they blame the far right for violence they didn't initiate.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

But what’s the endgame?

If a Ukrainian politician resigns it means one of two things. One, that their lies/corruption were exposed to the west and that they became a liability in terms of bad PR, or two, that they want to go against the Zelensky/NATO narrative, making them an even bigger liability. I'm thinking it's mostly related to one, but who knows with them.

Turkieye could delay NATO membership but ultimately there is too much money on the table for turkieye to lose. Give it a few more months the coalition will most likely hold.

Lol no. They don't give a shit about just making a profit while serving America. Turkey wants influence in the region and to become a superpower, which means NATO will be ripped in half like Zelensky's asshole after his visit to Washington. Turks played NATO, and specifically Western Europe, like a fiddle. Or did you forget the throngs of Muslim refugees they intentionally sent into Europe? Who do you think they'll be more loyal to, their fellow Muslims in Turkey, or a bunch of degenerate European kaffirs?

Erdogan isn't satisfied with the status quo, he still remembers the coup attempt of 2016, and is waiting for the right moment to fuck Europe in the ass.

From what I see here, the pro Ukraine side seems to be getting increasingly delusional by the day. Their cope has gone from "two more weeks and Zelensky will be having a victory parade in Moscow" to "Turkey will accept Finland and Sweden into NATO and that will somehow make us stop losing" Why do you think Turkey cares about anyone other than Turkey, bros?

As for Hungary, yes, it does seem like Orban is consolidating power by eliminating pro-NATO elements in his government. How does that bode to Hungary's future in NATO, though? Wouldn't they now be more inclined on voting their way out of it?