Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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That's what I am talking about. Melitopol/Berdyansk/Mariupol is the southern front, the land bridge to Crimea I mentioned in the original post.
Ammo. They need ammo. Russia has lots, but we do not.

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If China decided to come after us well...
"The US military industrial base is not sufficiently prepared for today's international security environment. In a major regional conflict - for example, in the war with China in the Taiwan Strait - US use of ammunition is likely to exceed the current stocks of the US Department of Defense"

This happens when you turn over your manufacturing to a potential belligerent.

Also, it would be "See ya Kiev, good luck!" if that indeed occurs.
 
yet most of Ukraine is shitting in bags in the dark,
Nope. Kiev and Lviv still had electricity and water.

their economy and industry is in taters
https://tradingeconomics.com/ukraine/exports well, I see their export is rebuilding from six months since jul 2022.

most of their population has fled
Ya, sure dude, ten millions country like Hungaria is housing around 2 million refugees, sure :)

they lost 20% of their land.
Like where?

When is the winning going to start? Got a specific date?

11/11/2022, liberation of Kherson.
Note how the NAFO shill's cope gone from "Moscow in two weeks" to "well Putin didn't take 100% of Ukraine yet."
Still better love story than "everything is going as intendet, annexing Kherson was just a joke, the true aim was old mine near Soledar, bro, why you don't wanna die for Putin bro, whe need that salt bro".
 
That's right blyat
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When there are no more holhols to drive those Abrams, who's next into the meatgrinder? I do believe you're a mutt, with all that implies but you should read up on how small regional conflicts become world wide ones throughout history.

t. mutt American
Americans won't be fighting a war with Russia anytime soon, also last I checked the Ukrainians aren't exactly short on available manpower here. Especially since they started their draconian recruitment campaign way back in circa February 2022 meanwhile your average Russian is probably going to expect another mobilization be called out especially if Wagner penal mercenaries aren't enough to fix the issue. Do you really think the average Muscovite is going to want to send their 15 year olds to die in Ukraine? Sure they're okay with sending some Kazak or Asian mongol. But your average Muscovite brother really?
I'm prettysure that northern counteroffensive was based on tanks and was better than anything ruzzkies can due whit their T-62.

At least Ukraine didn't waste half of their stock like ruzzkies.
This^
When Ukraine is recapturing a vast area with main cities in region it is only a tactical retreat of ruzzkies, when ruzzkies are capturing a middle of nothing with price around ten thousand KIA nad WIA this is a major victory.

It is impossible to force ruzzkies into seeing thing how they really look. They will cope to the very end.
Yeah I've noticed unfortunately. I'm pegged as Pro Ukrainian when I really care about the footage I'm seeing.
Look and snow nigga Feline Supremacist isn't able to understood sources about refugees, where he is mixing border crossings with asylum seekers ad so one.


Only and only important thing with Abrams vs T-72/T-62/T-shitty is that never soviet-eguiped side has won a conventional war. The main failures of western powers was:

- Afghanistan where their fuck-up retreat withou smashing Taliban,
- Nam, where the public opinion was a pussy.

And none was a conventional war. Also both was a strategic nonsense - Nam was pointless from the very begining, Afghan was pointless after killing Osama.

All conventional wars where the western egupiment was facing soviet shitty - civil war in Hellada, Korean war, all Israeli-Arab wars, operation in Iraqi - was just a carnage of soviet tanks by modern eguipment. God, ruzzkies ar so pathetic in usage of equipment that their loos a flagship of their navy without seabattle or their was forced to rebase their strategic bombers from OWN base deep in their OWN territorry.

Also ruzzkies CAS aren't seen nowhere. Their fail to secure airspace too.
I mean the Russian Equipment turned out to do very well for the Egyptians during the early days of the Yom-Kippur war, and apparently AGTMs and the British Centurian and M63 Patton tanks found their respective match's and Equals during the early phases. A Patton tank can easily take on a T-55 no problem. But against the T-72s, 68s and some 62s it turned out they where roughly equivalent. Now the Germans and Americans blew the Russians in the 1970s by developing their respective Abrams and Leopard tanks. however I would prefer an Abrams to a leopard tank as it quite frankly is more battle tested and crew survivability is best in an Abrams tank.
:story: Nigger the thing could run on Tyrone's grape kool aid and you'd still need to have either a massive supply chain or make a trip to a gas station every day. Neither really being a realistic option given the situation on the ground.
Talking to tankers The Abrams fuel range is a lot better then the T-72s fuel ranges. I know you think the myth Soviet tanks never fall apart. But that's not true they're cheap tanks designed to be rebuilt and replaced with relatively simple tools. I mean do you want to make the Elon musk claim and proclaim that tanks are useless for modern warfare.
Nope. Kiev and Lviv still had electricity and water.


https://tradingeconomics.com/ukraine/exports well, I see their export is rebuilding from six months since jul 2022.


Ya, sure dude, ten millions country like Hungaria is housing around 2 million refugees, sure :)


Like where?



11/11/2022, liberation of Kherson.

Still better love story than "everything is going as intendet, annexing Kherson was just a joke, the true aim was old mine near Soledar, bro, why you don't wanna die for Putin bro, whe need that salt bro".
I swear I'm so glad guys like you are here in this thread otherwise I would have lost my mind with all the Z cope I'm seeing.
 
Nope. Kiev and Lviv still had electricity and water.


https://tradingeconomics.com/ukraine/exports well, I see their export is rebuilding from six months since jul 2022.


Ya, sure dude, ten millions country like Hungaria is housing around 2 million refugees, sure :)


Like where?



11/11/2022, liberation of Kherson.

Still better love story than "everything is going as intendet, annexing Kherson was just a joke, the true aim was old mine near Soledar, bro, why you don't wanna die for Putin bro, whe need that salt bro".
>Nope. Kiev and Lviv still had electricity and water.
Well yeah, Ukraine's ability to ebeg is like their Thermopylae. They will defend it to the last Ukrainian.
 
Also, it would be "See ya Kiev, good luck!" if that indeed occurs.
Ya dude, PRC is dreaming about war on remote island when PRC didn't have sufficent navy for this. They will thrown into junk own economy, source of microchips, millions of own peasants in sake of nothing.

Boy, you are so naive in politics. Arc with "every Ukrainian is in Budapest" was better.
 
:story: Nigger the thing could run on Tyrone's grape kool aid and you'd still need to have either a massive supply chain or make a trip to a gas station every day. Neither really being a realistic option given the situation on the ground.
@JosephStalin can tell those niggers about logistics all day long and he still wouldn't get it.
LeChampion1992 said:
Americans won't be fighting a war with Russia anytime soon, also last I checked the Ukrainians aren't exactly short on available manpower here. Especially since they started their draconian recruitment campaign way back in circa February 2022
It's cute how you think you just hand over the keys to a Bradley or Abrams, like Cornpop giving you the keys to his Corvette, and say "Go get 'em" to a shell shocked holhol and expect him to go head to head with a T-90 instead flooring to the Russian lines waving a white flag to surrender.

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Picture is me when I read the hoholsisters posts.
 
All that cope, yet most of Ukraine is shitting in bags in the dark, most of their population has fled, their economy and industry is in taters, their government is collapsing, and they lost 20% of their land. When is the winning going to start? Got a specific date?
Around the Kharkiv Offensive and during the summer of 2022 did the tide of war slowly begin to swing in their favor. When Ukraine retook Lyman that started it.
Note how the NAFO shill's cope gone from "Moscow in two weeks" to "well Putin didn't take 100% of Ukraine yet" which was never the stated goal.
Before the war most people thought Putin would simply just go into Donbass and the Luhansk and maybe destroy the dam near Kherson. I didn't predict in the beginning of 2022 that he would try to take out the legitimately elected Ukrainian government with a "two weeks to Kyiv surprise offensive."
Here's something you should never forget. People win wars, not equipment. Taliban dicked you mutts up and down the mountains of Afghanistan for 20 years without an air force, without tanks, without drones, and without rocket artillery. How did that happen? They had no Abrams tanks, they weren't supposed to win!
They didn't fight us in a traditional war, the Taliban hid in the cave, took potshots and made small raids against special forces, And bleed the US and its allies dry. It turns out that you can win a guerrilla war if you outlast the public's apatite for war.
Look at how poorly Ukraine is faring. If a people are incapable of winning a war, you can give them all the equipment in the world and they'll still lose. Now they're losing on your dime.
I mean is Russia really winning? You're wasting tens of thousands of men trying to secure Bakhmut, you're in the middle of mud season so you can't move outside of established road networks, you're bogged down in the Verdun of the 21st century and trying to use WW2 esq propaganda to disprove me and say Nuh uhh Sputnik and I tell Slavia said that the US government is about to collapse, NATO is falling apart, and Ukraine will overthrow Zelinsky this week.
Meanwhile I'm looking at the big picture like logistics, weather, and general morale and sentiment and last I checked even the isolationists are sympathetic to the average Ukrainian civilian. Zelinsky is a tinhorn same with Putin. The only difference is Zelinsky is backed by the US and is very popular at the current moment because another tinhorn has decided to invade his land.

@JosephStalin can tell those niggers about logistics all day long and he still wouldn't get it.

It's cute how you think you just hand over the keys to a Bradley or Abrams, like Cornpop giving you the keys to his Corvette, and say "Go get 'em" to a shell shocked holhol and expect him to go head to head with a T-90 instead flooring to the Russian lines waving a white flag to surrender.

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Picture is me when I read the hoholsisters posts.
You don't hand over the keys to an Abrams tank they're push start engines.
But hey Im sure by the end of 2023 that Russia will totes win, Ukraine will fall and the west will be in rapid free fall collapse.

Now sir I dunno about you but you sir are on some weapons grade copium.
 

Germany sends Leopard tanks to Ukraine​

After months of debate, Chancellor Scholz has managed to deliver battle tanks to Ukraine. The allies apparently want to go along too. Abrams tanks could come from the United States.

The decision has been made: Germany will deliver Leopard 2 main battle tanks to Ukraine. According to SPIEGEL information, it is about at least one Leopard 2A6 company.

Other allies, including those from Scandinavia, also want to deliver Leopard 2 main battle tanks to Ukraine. The Federal Government wants to grant approval for the export of tanks owned by other countries such as Poland.

 
Around the Kharkiv Offensive and during the summer of 2022 did the tide of war slowly begin to swing in their favor. When Ukraine retook Lyman that started it.

Before the war most people thought Putin would simply just go into Donbass and the Luhansk and maybe destroy the dam near Kherson. I didn't predict in the beginning of 2022 that he would try to take out the legitimately elected Ukrainian government with a "two weeks to Kyiv surprise offensive."

They didn't fight us in a traditional war, the Taliban hid in the cave, took potshots and made small raids against special forces, And bleed the US and its allies dry. It turns out that you can win a guerrilla war if you outlast the public's apatite for war.

I mean is Russia really winning? You're wasting tens of thousands of men trying to secure Bakhmut, you're in the middle of mud season so you can't move outside of established road networks, you're bogged down in the Verdun of the 21st century and trying to use WW2 esq propaganda to disprove me and say Nuh uhh Sputnik and I tell Slavia said that the US government is about to collapse, NATO is falling apart, and Ukraine will overthrow Zelinsky this week.
Meanwhile I'm looking at the big picture like logistics, weather, and general morale and sentiment and last I checked even the isolationists are sympathetic to the average Ukrainian civilian. Zelinsky is a tinhorn same with Putin. The only difference is Zelinsky is backed by the US and is very popular at the current moment because another tinhorn has decided to invade his land.


You don't hand over the keys to an Abrams tank they're push start engines.
But hey Im sure by the end of 2023 that Russia will totes win, Ukraine will fall and the west will be in rapid free fall collapse.

Now sir I dunno about you but you sir are on some weapons grade copium.
So your idea of "winning" is:
- Quarter of the population fled the country: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1312584/ukrainian-refugees-by-country/#:~:text=Nearly 2.9 million refugees from,refugees were registered across Europe.
- Losing at least half of power infrastructure: (old and gay link) https://www.voanews.com/a/un-half-o...ure-destroyed-by-russian-attacks/6874897.html
- Losing 20% of land: https://thegermanyeye.com/territory-occupied-by-russia-corresponds-to-one-third-of-germany-4859
- Not going to count the dead and wounded because it'll just get you depressed.

Is this some new American definition of winning that us Russian cunts don't understand? Should I email Webster's dictionary?
 

Germany sends Leopard tanks to Ukraine​

Took them long enough.
First they go "Nein nein nein nein nein nein".
Then they go "We are looking into it"
and lastly, they go "ja, we will send over shit".

What this also mean that for other countries that has the LEO (Sweden and Poland for exempel) are now in the clear to send over them.
Leo II is a very good tank and far superior to the t72 that Russia is mostly using.
 
According to SPIEGEL information, it is about at least one Leopard 2A6 company.
Let's combine that information with those from countries like Denmark and Estonia about giving arties.

Also we must remember that el pootin said not oonce, not twice, but at least few times that delivering tanks will be a daclaration f war. From that we can go straight to Noriega Saga and his DoW-ing USA in 1989. :)
 
Took them long enough.
First they go "Nein nein nein nein nein nein".
Then they go "We are looking into it"
and lastly, they go "ja, we will send over shit".
When they are threatened with murder from USA, suddenly they have quite a bit of interest in providing said tanks, less they find themselves in an "accident"
Also we must remember that el pootin said not oonce, not twice, but at least few times that delivering tanks will be a daclaration f war.
I don't believe he used this exact wording, but merely said that there would be consequences
 
@LeChampion1992
Talking to tankers The Abrams fuel range is a lot better then the T-72s fuel ranges. I know you think the myth Soviet tanks never fall apart. But that's not true they're cheap tanks designed to be rebuilt and replaced with relatively simple tools. I mean do you want to make the Elon musk claim and proclaim that tanks are useless for modern warfare.
Yeah it has great range for an MBT, but that's not relevant in this context. It has great range because the double edged sword for turbine engines is that their fuel consumption doesn't vary much depending on how fast the vehicle is moving. They get that great range because they can haul ass without using much more fuel than they would just creeping along at 5 miles per hour. That was great for the US in desert storm because the US could follow behind its tank columns with massive legions of fuel trucks across an open desert against an enemy entirely incapable of reliably targeting said fuel trucks. That's not the situation on the ground for Ukraine. They'll either A, have to drive to gas stations on a regular basis. This being basically suicide since Russia will no doubt start watching these stations and then shelling them as soon as they see tanks pulling up, or will wait for said tanks to return to their positions and then shell those positions. Option B is to bring fuel trucks to the tanks. This isn't really a good option either since this will inevitably give away their locations, and even the shitty grenade dropper drones we've been seeing can easily take out a fuel truck.

Also this isn't even getting into all the problems Abram's tanks will likely have with the mud there.
A T-72 has a ground pressure of 12.8 psi
A T-90 has a ground pressure of 13.34 psi
An Abrams has a ground pressure of 15 psi

We've seen T-72s and T-90s have problems with the mud in a lot of places there. More than likely the Abrams is going to have even worse problems.
 
So your idea of "winning" is:

Winning is achieving aims.

Aims of Ukraine:

- not to fall (they still standing).

Aims of ruzzkies snow niggas (really, economy of ruzzkieland is in size of nigerian):

- retreat from Kherson (achieved);
- lost of a flagship (Moscov still on seabed);
- lost at least two million refugees due to avoiding mobilization (in progress, second attempt will be in few weeks);
- lost at least half of tank stock (done);
- form and abandon LOOOONG KAWAII near Kiev (done);
- smash own VDV's on Hostomel (done - bonus points for one who stuck on airstrip and get shelled by arties);
- at least take some salt mine in Soledar with Soledar (town with around 10k inhabitants pre-war) with price of at least 10k WIA and KIA (done and done).

Bro, ruzzia is winning. Bro, don't emigrate. Bro, belive in future, that salt mine is vital for mister Prigozhin. Bro, Prigozhin needs money from that salt bro, this is worth as many dead ruzzkies as possible. Bro, you shoud be proud of you brother who died from polish arties, Prigozhin really needs that mine. Bro, you familly will receive a car for you, go and die, that means fight.

They'll either A, have to drive to gas stations on a regular basis. This being basically suicide since Russia will no doubt start watching these stations and then shelling them as soon as they see tanks pulling up, or will wait for said tanks to return to their positions and then shell those positions. Option B is to bring fuel trucks to the tanks. This isn't really a good option either since this will inevitably give away their locations, and even the shitty grenade dropper drones we've been seeing can easily take out a fuel truck.
Yes, just like ruzzkies deal with HIMARS. At have a New Years Eve party to celebrate that - best party ever, arms and legs was flying in air.
 
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