Tim Pool - 'journalist' who claims to be a sensible centrist & sucks Sargon of Akkad's wiener; Afraid of the Milkshake ANTIFAs

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Sloppy Party Bottom said:
These people are fucking stupid if they think his new "stopbigcon" or "mugclubforever" mean shit. People are not going to fucking pay him again for something they have already paid him for.

How many of those "300k" people signed up had already paid him for the year? Sure, I'll just eat the remaining 8 months of the membership I already paid you for and pay you again. No fucking problem bud.
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If Crowder doesn't have the drawing power for paid subscriptions then why in the world did Daily Wire try to hire him in the first place?
 
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SpergioLeonne said:
If I remember correctly, Jeremy said in his response that Crowder claimed to be able to deliver “350,000 subs on day one.”

So, Crowder was most likely LOOKING to sell the license to his subs again, if they materialized. He just glosses over that and then acts like that provision in the term sheet was a surprise to fuck him over
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He made this claim on one of his videos as well, but there are claims he doesn't know his sub numbers or have his sub list from The Blaze as they own it. On Tim's show he said he had 300k people who said they'd sub, which makes it sound like this is poll data.

TheRaptorJesus said:
Crowder is actually hiring people. He said hes going from like 25 to over 30 soon.
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That was about Tim telling Rekieta he had 400k subs, not Crowder.
 
YouTube money isn't rational, to make the 12.5 mil a year Daily Wire offered, Crowder would only need 125,000 subs at $100 per year, exclusive of ad reads and merch.
"How does X Youtuber pay for Y?"
Every 1,000 people they grift out of $100 is $100.,000, if for example Nerdrotic grifts 1% of his subs for $100 he's making $690,000 a year. Again exclusive of any other income stream.
 
Not Really Here said:
YouTube money isn't rational, to make the 12.5 mil a year Daily Wire offered, Crowder would only need 125,000 subs at $100 per year, exclusive of ad reads and merch.
"How does X Youtuber pay for Y?"
Every 1,000 people they grift out of $100 is $100.,000, if for example Nerdrotic grifts 1% of his subs for $100 he's making $690,000 a year. Again exclusive of any other income stream.
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Right, which raises the question that nobody can ever answer,

Why was Crowder shopping for, I believe, his fourth contract?

He was signed with Fox, CRTV, and The Blaze at minimum. I don’t know if I’m missing something.

But this whole entire time, he could have ACTUALLY been independent and then there would be no need to have a BPD fit over contracts.

So the only thing he really stands to benefit from taking a contract with anyone is that he could burn THEIR platform before he burned himself. He’s just trying to defer risk. For that service, any business OUGHT to take a premium, because he’s using them as an insurance policy.
 
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SpergioLeonne said:
Right, which raises the question that nobody can ever answer,

Why was Crowder shopping for, I believe, his fourth contract?

He was signed with Fox, CRTV, and The Blaze at minimum. I don’t know if I’m missing something.

But this whole entire time, he could have ACTUALLY been independent and then there would be no need to have a BPD fit over contracts.

So the only thing he really stands to benefit from taking a contract with anyone is that he could burn THEIR platform before he burned himself. He’s just trying to defer risk. For that service, any business OUGHT to take a premium, because he’s using them as an insurance policy.
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I will fault Crowder for this: he doesn't know how to play the youtube game. Not in the Tim "I'll censor myself " Pool, but in the, "you know the rules when you start saying wild ass shit". Everyone else has to live in fear of the demonization demon, but there are ways around it without tripping the bots and without looking like a tool. Crowder has never wanted to even try to play ball. No wonder companies put in clauses when dealing with him.
 
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sneedem&feedem said:
If Crowder doesn't have the drawing power for paid subscriptions then why in the world did Daily Wire try to hire him in the first place?
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They didn't really.

I wonder why Crowder thought it would be a good idea to go to the DW anyway. If all of them were the chums they said they were, really all of them could figure out it was never going to work before an offer was sent if they were all being honest with each other, which I doubt, hence the dramaz. I am still not getting what Crowder wanted the DW to offer him specifically. He kept dodging the question the whole podcast. I am not sure even he knows what he was looking for besides money.
I will fault Crowder for this: he doesn't know how to play the youtube game. Not in the Tim "I'll censor myself " Pool, but in the, "you know the rules when you start saying wild ass shit". Everyone else has to live in fear of the demonization demon, but there are ways around it without tripping the bots and without looking like a tool. Crowder has never wanted to even try to play ball. No wonder companies put in clauses when dealing with him.
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Didn't the DW offer him the same format he has now and they use for the rest of their shows: 1 hour of free censored content on YT/FB/Rumble whatever and 30-1 hr of paywalled say whatever you want content hosted by the DW?
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
I will fault Crowder for this: he doesn't know how to play the youtube game. Not in the Tim "I'll censor myself " Pool, but in the, "you know the rules when you start saying wild ass shit". Everyone else has to live in fear of the demonization demon, but there are ways around it without tripping the bots and without looking like a tool. Crowder has never wanted to even try to play ball. No wonder companies put in clauses when dealing with him.
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There is no way around it unless crowder changes who and what he is. The show would be boring like tim is if he tip-toed around and refused to take hard stances. If he lose Landau then the show is good as dead anyway.
 
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It's more of a Daily Wire criticism than a Crowder criticism, but it is weird that they don't produce sketch comedy. Sketch comedy is the second cheapest form of entertainment in the world. As far as I can tell, sketch comedy is a lost artform today and there's plenty of fodder for comedy; the existence of the Farms is proof there's demand for making fun of degenerate weirdos.
 
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Daily Wire can't do sketch comedy because they spent all that money instead of having three fucking cameras for single person talking head pieces on all their shows, because switching to the B and C camera is a no talent hack trick to make it look like you're higher budget than you are. That's the one thing I wanted Crowder to really shit on, how insecure DW production really is as they're desperate to have the look of everything coming out of hollywood.
 
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Daily dose of fear mongering bullshit. Tim's such a mid-wit he doesn't get that him talking about this shit is exactly what the dumbasses who control the clock want him to do.
 
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After watching the majority of this interview (certainly all the relevant parts, and can you blame me with the softball circlejerking?), and entirety of Crowder's pair of videos and the entirety of Boreing's video, I just don't see how anyone could buy Crowder's shit here.

It's not about the money, but he opened this charade with complaints about 100,000 dollar reductions for missing a show when he already had all Friday's off on top of 2 weeks without work entirely - of course, without mentioning the inconvenient fact that this reduction was off of a 12.5 million annual sum.
It's not about money, but he counter offered for 30 million a year, AND he doesn't want anything coming out of his pocket if he can't post to the channel he keeps using to dance to YouTube's rhythm, or if his advertisers bail.

I could list a bunch of other points, but ultimately it just comes down to this simple fact: Of course it's about money. To live and life and to run a business, you need money. The same logic applies Daily Wire. It's surprising that they even have 12.5+ million to offer as is. Which is not a shabby negotiation-base number for Crowder's show, and would not be the end of DW's expenses even without negotiation. Even if he's got 31 employees including himself (and why he's even got between 25-30 is beyond me), that's over 400k of annual compensation a person. There's no chance the reality of what he's paying comes close to that. He's already got the infrastructure for the show set up as well.

He also talked a lot about how he "wouldn't have been able to come up" with BigCon's rules, when that's exactly what he did.
 
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Viva Frei brought up a good point as well: there's multiple instances of Crowder telling Tim how he does shit to avoid being banned from Youtube, and makes sure that he stays exactly within the guidelines there because he needs to be on Youtube.

Which is the main point he was originally shitting on the DW for.
 
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Blacklight said:

Daily dose of fear mongering bullshit. Tim's such a mid-wit he doesn't get that him talking about this shit is exactly what the dumbasses who control the clock want him to do.
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Tim gets it, he just makes his living off the same shit the mainstream media makes their money off of. He is also well aware that people don't make rational decisions when they're scared, and I can't think of a more irrational decision one can make than giving Tim Pool money.
 
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Not Really Here said:
He said this multiple times, it's less personal effort to work for someone else.
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That makes sense, but it's not exactly a great look to just say "I don't like this thing, change it for me!" At least he's finally come to the obvious conclusion that if he can truly promise so many subscribers then he should just make his own thing.

Value Size said:
Tim gets it, he just makes his living off the same shit the mainstream media makes their money off of. He is also well aware that people don't make rational decisions when they're scared, and I can't think of a more irrational decision one can make than giving Tim Pool money.
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If any of these people wanted to change anything, they'd be working on convincing advertisers that they can get them more sales and how they can protect them from backlash.
 
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