Canada is a failed state

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Canadians believe in being friendly and polite to everyone. This is what being friendly and polite to everyone gets you.

Bring friendly and polite doesn't involve selling yourself out and driving everything to a ruin. They're just greedy and naive.

 

[Ser Prize]

It's the worst it's ever been.

I see homeless children and immigrants who are working at a McDonalds who can't speak a lick of English. (Whose housing is tied to the job)

Even in the small towns too. Indians are buying everyone out, there's no point in going to the hospital even if you are dying.

Yep, small town BCer here and in another half decade or so I expect white people to be a minority. The immigration just won't stop and they're coming in and buying up everything now that we're poor as fuck.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Canadians believe in being friendly and polite to everyone. This is what being friendly and polite to everyone gets you.

Pretty much every study and poll finds Americans to be more friendly than pretty much every country in the world.

I have said it before and I will say it again: the friendliness and politeness of many, MANY Canadians is a facade and nothing more. Oh, Canadians will act friendly and polite to your face, but will be vindictive cunts behind your backs. Sometimes the mask will slip and they will take passive-aggressive jabs at you if they feel slighted.

 

[wry wrangler]

It's no longer enough simply to abolish immigration into Canada from outside Europe; even with such a measure it would still be necessary to deport as many Asians as possible, with a focus on Chinese and Indians.

 

[Nikes_JustDoIt]

The immigration just won't stop and they're coming in and buying up everything now that we're poor as fuck.

Also, due to the high number of immigrants, they are developing more fucking up the land and pissing off the environmentalist and, in turn yelling at us for this. Canada has nice lands but having more and more people is going to ruin that.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

TBF the government has "paused" the March rollout due to significant pushback, but what that ultimately means is anyone's guess.


One veteran took up the offer. Many others have been having it suggested to them unsolicited. If it's not about cheaply skirting around the problems the federal government has built for itself they're doing a terrible job of getting their messaging across. And that's not even factoring in having it romanticized as a literal fashion statement through mass media.

How Justin Castro will react if a more important number of the immigrants he cherished choose suicide?

 

[Never Scored]

Also, due to the high number of immigrants, they are developing more fucking up the land and pissing off the environmentalist and, in turn yelling at us for this. Canada has nice lands but having more and more people is going to ruin that.

I'm not anti-immigration, I just think we should only bring in people to fill gaps in the economy.

Bringing in doctors because we don't have enough doctors nor the capicity to train enough? Sure.

Dumping a bunch of random unskilled people and dumping them in the middle of a city because the government claims we needs to perpetually grow the population? Not so much.

 

[Nikes_JustDoIt]

I'm not anti-immigration, I just think we should only bring in people to fill gaps in the economy.

Bringing in doctors because we don't have enough doctors nor the capicity to train enough? Sure.

Dumping a bunch of random unskilled people and dumping them in the middle of a city because the government claims we needs to perpetually grow the population? Not so much.

I do agree the issue is how you can convince them to stay? They get paid more in the states, for example.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

I'm not anti-immigration, I just think we should only bring in people to fill gaps in the economy.

Bringing in doctors because we don't have enough doctors nor the capicity to train enough? Sure.

Dumping a bunch of random unskilled people and dumping them in the middle of a city because the government claims we needs to perpetually grow the population? Not so much.

I wouldn't even go this far for myself. I think we need immigration for a competitive edge (as in, we need what the US has with engineers, doctors, computer scientists, people who want to start businesses, etc choosing to come to Canada on the receiving end of the brain drain).

My big problem is that Canada is doing this, but also leaving behind the native population.

I hate to get nativist (look ma' Im already speaking Canadian), but you can't just forget about your native population when importing new labour, and that is precisely what it feels like the government is doing.

Only recently did they start to limit foreign investment from China, but if we're transitioning to IT and simply importing to labour to fill the gaps, whats going to happen to the people already here?

That's the big problem, imo. Finding a way to keep the old and transition the already existing population into a new mode of living, in conjuncture with the new.

You don't even have to train people (but its a good idea); just- don't let hardworking people fall through the cracks is all. Way too many people today are falling through the cracks, and its almost like noone really cares to stop that, other than giving them a little string to desperately grasp onto that wont stop the fall, but only slows it.

 

[SilentDuck]

I do agree the issue is how you can convince them to stay? They get paid more in the states, for example.

Thing about immigrants is they have a tendency to pick up and leave for the better place. Canada is not the better place.

 

[wry wrangler]

I see a lot of people in this thread expressing a belief (hope?) that recent immigrants are moving out of Canada at an increasing pace, whether they're returning to their home countries, moving on to the States, or to somewhere else entirely. In all fairness, I've read a handful of articles in the mainstream media expressing similar sentiments, although these articles almost always just say something vague like 'surveys suggest one-quarter of recent arrivals are considering leaving Canada,' but never present any definitive evidence this is actually taking place. Is there any definitive evidence this is taking place on a large enough scale for it to put a dent in the increasing hordes being brought in every year? If not, I'm inclined to believe this is just wishful thinking on the part of people who wish there weren't so many coming in the first place, people like us. Besides, however many might leave, there's always ten more putting their applications in to come.

The phenomenon of immigrants coming into Canada just to get their Canadian citizenship before immediately returning home is not new anyways; most of the 'Canadians' living in Hong Kong did this, returning with their Canadian passport as an escape mechanism in case shit ever gets real there. They never intended to live in Canada permanently and never will.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

The phenomenon of immigrants coming into Canada just to get their Canadian citizenship before immediately returning home is not new anyways; most of the 'Canadians' living in Hong Kong did this, returning with their Canadian passport as an escape mechanism in case shit ever gets real there. They never intended to live in Canada permanently and never will.

To say nothing about how women and couples from overseas come to Canada to give birth so their children have automatic Canadian citizenship. It has made question what the value of citizenship is when the government gives it away like Halloween candy.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

The phenomenon of immigrants coming into Canada just to get their Canadian citizenship before immediately returning home is not new anyways; most of the 'Canadians' living in Hong Kong did this, returning with their Canadian passport as an escape mechanism in case shit ever gets real there. They never intended to live in Canada permanently and never will.

We really should pump up residency requirements.

Currently, the way it works, you are granted residency and have to stay in Canada for a number of years before youre granted citizenship (permanent stay).

Really should make it something like 5 years continuously, for the vast majority of the year.

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

The reality of most liberals and leftists being all for open borders and mass immigration is ironic on many fronts.

Not only does mass immigration drive down wages, drive up cost of living, and bring in people wealthier then them, (because you have to be rich to immigrate here, because it's so expensive to move all the way across the world to a Northern country as well as pay all the fees associated with travel visas and such) but the majority of immigrants, (outside border crossing illegal assholes) are conservative. This is because they come from countries where you HAVE to be conservative, or you fucking starve.

You think some middle caste Pajeet in a city in India gives a fuck about gender identity? No, because he had to leave his family back in their tiny hometown which doesn't even have running water to go work in the city, and sends all his money back to them.


It's even worse for Canadian liberal women, who have bitched themselves out of the dating market. Why would any self respecting man date a woman who would do nothing but complain about patriarchy, how bad her life is, constantly lecture him about "toxic masculinity" and then eventually divorce him and take all his shit through some man-hating court?

More Canadian men are discovering that immigrant and foreign women still respect and appreciate traditional masculine qualities in men.

If Canadian liberals and leftists want to cuck themselves to both globohomo corporations and immigrants, then let them and their way of life die.

 

[PaleTay]

Canadians believe in being friendly and polite to everyone. This is what being friendly and polite to everyone gets you.

Most are absolute cunts.

 

[Fatboi Gus]

Most are absolute cunts.

English Canadians are passive aggressive hypocrites and French Canadians are a jovial bunch with a barrel of crabs mentality

 

[DiscoRodeo]

The reality of most liberals and leftists being all for open borders and mass immigration is ironic on many fronts.

Not only does mass immigration drive down wages, drive up cost of living, and bring in people wealthier then them, (because you have to be rich to immigrate here, because it's so expensive to move all the way across the world to a Northern country as well as pay all the fees associated with travel visas and such) but the majority of immigrants, (outside border crossing illegal assholes) are conservative. This is because they come from countries where you HAVE to be conservative, or you fucking starve.

You think some middle caste Pajeet in a city in India gives a fuck about gender identity? No, because he had to leave his family back in their tiny hometown which doesn't even have running water to go work in the city, and sends all his money back to them.


It's even worse for Canadian liberal women, who have bitched themselves out of the dating market. Why would any self respecting man date a woman who would do nothing but complain about patriarchy, how bad her life is, constantly lecture him about "toxic masculinity" and then eventually divorce him and take all his shit through some man-hating court?

More Canadian men are discovering that immigrant and foreign women still respect and appreciate traditional masculine qualities in men.

If Canadian liberals and leftists want to cuck themselves to both globohomo corporations and immigrants, then let them and their way of life die.

Most techie immigrants are liberal.

They come from a bubble. In order to get to the position where they can emigrate, they indeed need to be sheltered from the worst affects of their native countries.

They are not the ones who often build and insulate that bubble themselves. They often come from wealth, from already existing bubbles, and ironically its precisely that sheltered attitude that is often the most liberal.

A Mexican programmer from Monterey has never seen what the violence in the streets is like. They go to a private school, have a gated community, and just vague senses of "well if only everyone drove a tesla like I do, we could save the enviornment".

An Indian from the same tech background will likely have similar views. See all the previous heads of twitter.

If you assume that everyone who migrates is blue collar, thats one thing. Most migrants are blue collar; but the migrants with power- theyre just as privileged as our own privileged class, and frankly they are the ones who matter politically. If its the rich ones driving up the cost of living, these are the ones youre talking about.


The other aspect is, the children of migrants- regardless of position, tend to vote left as well. There's something about being sheltered that makes you oblivious as to how bad the world can get, and why people put up their defenses or are wary of those in power having as much control over them as a privileged kid with an ant hill. If they fuck up, its just another day for them and they go back to their fancy condo, but to you, thats your entire life that could be gone.

and French Canadians are a jovial bunch with a barrel of crabs mentality

and their wine sucks.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

The reality of most liberals and leftists being all for open borders and mass immigration is ironic on many fronts.

Not only does mass immigration drive down wages, drive up cost of living, and bring in people wealthier then them, (because you have to be rich to immigrate here, because it's so expensive to move all the way across the world to a Northern country as well as pay all the fees associated with travel visas and such) but the majority of immigrants, (outside border crossing illegal assholes) are conservative. This is because they come from countries where you HAVE to be conservative, or you fucking starve.

You think some middle caste Pajeet in a city in India gives a fuck about gender identity? No, because he had to leave his family back in their tiny hometown which doesn't even have running water to go work in the city, and sends all his money back to them.


It's even worse for Canadian liberal women, who have bitched themselves out of the dating market. Why would any self respecting man date a woman who would do nothing but complain about patriarchy, how bad her life is, constantly lecture him about "toxic masculinity" and then eventually divorce him and take all his shit through some man-hating court?

More Canadian men are discovering that immigrant and foreign women still respect and appreciate traditional masculine qualities in men.

If Canadian liberals and leftists want to cuck themselves to both globohomo corporations and immigrants, then let them and their way of life die.

About the term ''liberal''. Many do not know the actual meaning of it when applied to our own politics. The liberal party in Canada is highly corporatist and meets the European definition fairly well which relates mainly to markets. They encourage mass immigration and illegal immigration under the umbrella of ''deregulation'' to drive down wages (as you already clued into) but the primary reason is to benefit their corporate donors that prop them up.

As far as patriarchy, Canadian women are probably worse off than American peers in terms of wielding of political power and influence. In America there are female CEO's, high ranking politicians and women can come close to be elected as a POTUS. Women in Canada are not at that status. A female (elected) prime minister is pretty laughable in Canada as it would never happen. Men often complain here that ''Women get government jobs easily'' - but those jobs are teaching, social work about 90% of the time.

 

[OutInTheRain]

About the term ''liberal''. Many do not know the actual meaning of it when applied to our own politics.

I agree, at this point it is just a brand name. I think most people thought in 2015 that they were going to get a version of the Chretien Liberal party. Fiscal responsibility, and kind of unobtrusive. However we have gotten a Liberal party that is obscenely corrupt, and massively authoritarian. Part of this is the people who pay the Liberal party's bills want it, and that Trudeau has some of the thinnest skin in politics. All these bills to fight hate speech and censor misinformation, are all because Trudeau is constantly pissed off about being called a retard on Twitter.

As far as patriarchy, Canadian women are probably worse off than American peers in terms of wielding of political power and influence.

Due to the nature of Canada's political system, it is difficult to have an elected MP serve for a long time. I think the longest serving was Herb Grey at 40 consecutive years and that was recentish(20 years or so ago). Federal candidates, if not explicitly headhunted(Andrew Leslie, Chrystia Freeland, Marc Garneau) usually are picked at the last moment, and it's usually someone boring like a lawyer. Many people don't want to make the sacrifice of losing income, to become an MP and then get voted out before you acquire that sweet pension. It also doesn't help that former cabinet ministers are usually despised after a government loses power, which also doesn't help an up and coming politician build a profile. Provincial politics are less chaotic, where for the most only a few seats really change hands from election to election, making it easier for female premiers to crop up.

I do think you are selling short the teaching jobs which after 5 years of full time you clear 6 figures. The most powerful political lobby group in Canada is the Ontario Teacher's Union.

 

[Sqwe-wi_Farmer]

There's a younger begger in a small Canadian town near to me who recently got contacted by or got incontact with the local papers, he's a poor homeless mentally ill alcoholic that's going to kill himself vis-a-vis MAiD, which sure if your heart bleeds I'm certain its tragic. A local facebook group after this article suddenly sprang into action and made a kickstarter for him to get a place but i've seen the guy around town for years among lots of other homeless. Idk what upgrading the guy to an e-begger does for his life but the state of this country is just sickening.