Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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Winning is achieving aims.

Aims of Ukraine:

- not to fall (they still standing).

Aims of ruzzkies snow niggas (really, economy of ruzzkieland is in size of nigerian):

- retreat from Kherson (achieved);
- lost of a flagship (Moscov still on seabed);
- lost at least two million refugees due to avoiding mobilization (in progress, second attempt will be in few weeks);
- lost at least half of tank stock (done);
- form and abandon LOOOONG KAWAII near Kiev (done);
- smash own VDV's on Hostomel (done - bonus points for one who stuck on airstrip and get shelled by arties);
- at least take some salt mine in Soledar with Soledar (town with around 10k inhabitants pre-war) with price of at least 10k WIA and KIA (done and done).

Bro, ruzzia is winning. Bro, don't emigrate. Bro, belive in future, that salt mine is vital for mister Prigozhin. Bro, Prigozhin needs money from that salt bro, this is worth as many dead ruzzkies as possible. Bro, you shoud be proud of you brother who died from polish arties, Prigozhin really needs that mine. Bro, you familly will receive a car for you, go and die, that means fight.


Yes, just like ruzzkies deal with HIMARS. At have a New Years Eve party to celebrate that - best party ever, arms and legs was flying in air.
All I see is a bunch of coping and seething over Ukraine's impending loss and your impending financial ruin. Try moving the goal posts some more, maybe say how Ukraine is winning as long as there's at least one Ukrainian alive on the planet.

Maybe instead of getting so assmad, you could try volunteering yourself. Take a rifle and bring the fight to Putin!

As for immigrating to Russia, maybe you should consider it if you're too chickenshit to volunteer for Ukraine. You'll get to experience nice clean streets with no niggers and trannies, museums and theaters that aren't full of "modern art", and real women that don't have penises.
 
You don't hand over the keys to an Abrams tank they're push start engines.
But hey Im sure by the end of 2023 that Russia will totes win, Ukraine will fall and the west will be in rapid free fall collapse.

Now sir I dunno about you but you sir are on some weapons grade copium.
Even better for the holhol giving it to Russia, the SBU won't know until it's too late. Incidentally, that hohol is a thousand times smarter than you because...

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Chickenhawks, it is time for the US and our allies to finish the job in Ukraine! That means you, little zogbots, time to fight for Muh Democracy™! Oh, and you have been given a waiver for obesity and autism. Here are the keys to this vintage Sherman tank, we gave all the new ones to Holholstan.
 
For all those still parroting the claim "RuZZia is wasting all of their army in the strategically unimportant Bakhmut and accomplishing nothing":
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If even the Kyiv Fucking Independent admits it, then you know the reality has to be a lot worse.

Also, there has been much talk of Russia suffering a geo-political, strategic defeat by Finland and Sweden joining NATO:

I'm glad Finland and Sweden will finally get to join the bulwark of mature, cool-headed countries that is NATO. I hope everything goes smoothly...

Wait, Sweden... is that... a Quran? Are you burning that Quran? SWEDEN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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It's okay... it's just one Swedish redneck burning a Quran I'm sure everything will be okay.

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You'll get to experience nice clean streets with no niggers and trannies, museums and theaters that aren't full of "modern art", and real women that don't have penises.
Ya, and average wage lower than minimal wage in Germany and a neighbours from Caucasus.

Maybe instead of getting so assmad, you could try volunteering yourself. Take a rifle and bring the fight to Putin!
The only one who getting to explode are ruzzkies when their use cellphones near HIMARS, dear snow nigga.

When you are going to ruzzkie armed forces? Or you are sitting in other country due to poor condition of ruzzia?
 
Ya, and average wage lower than minimal wage in Germany and a neighbours from Caucasus.


The only one who getting to explode are ruzzkies when their use cellphones near HIMARS, dear snow nigga.

When you are going to ruzzkie armed forces? Or you are sitting in other country due to poor condition of ruzzia?
Don't worry about it, Europe is almost fully Muslim now. At least the Russian ones are Caucausian, not Somali or Syrian, lmao. They hate godless western swine too, so we got a common cause. The entire world is banding together the fight the NATO threat and send them back to where they came from. Brings a tear to my eye.

To put this in a language native to you NAFO shills, it's like when Magneto helped the Avengers to fight Thanos.

So now that we know Ukraine's goal for this year is to not fall down and shit themselves (too much), what do you think will be their goal for 2024 when they fail to meet their 2023 goal?
 
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Don't worry about it, Europe is almost fully Muslim now.
I'm living in Europe and saddly I must denied this fake news.

So now that we know Ukraine's goal for this year is to not fall down and shit themselves (too much), what do you think will be their goal for 2024 when they fail to meet their 2023 goal?
Probably counter ruzzkies goals.

So, when all goals of ruzzkies for 2022 - to waste own army and retreat for Kherson - was occured, which they will target now? Retreat from Crimea? Second BANG! at crimean bridge?
 
I'm living in Europe and saddly I must denied this fake news.
Try stepping outside, habibi. There are more kebab shops than churches in your country.

Probably counter ruzzkies goals.
Which you still haven't been able to name.

So, when all goals of ruzzkies for 2022 - to waste own army and retreat for Kherson - was occured, which they will target now? Retreat from Crimea? Second BANG! at crimean bridge?
Current task is to waste western resources and Ukrainian manpower, and it's been going on splendidly. Just in Bakhmut alone Ukrainians have been taking 3-figure casualties EVERY DAY.

But hey, maybe you can spend a couple of $5m HIMARS rockets to blow up some more holes in concrete on that bridge, that'll help the war effort, or at least keep the local Ukrainian migrants working in construction employed.

So come on, let's get this out of the way, what do you think Ukraine's goal for 2024 will be? Feel free to push the goal posts as far back as you need.

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There's no better way to describe the current state of the Ukrainian government than as a bunch of diseased rats on a sinking ship fighting over the last piece of stale cheese. Even Ukromedia is unable to shake off that impression. Don't assume they want to get rid of corruption, this happened because Western paypigs are starting to ask questions about why Ukraine is performing so poorly and where is all the money going.

This comment made me laugh. Poor naive bastard.
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Just in Bakhmut alone Ukrainians have been taking 3-figure casualties EVERY DAY.
That means if the ratio will be in use for another year they will lose nearly as much as ruzzkie in first few months of war.

But hey, maybe you can spend a couple of $5m HIMARS rockets to blow up some more holes in concrete on that bridge
Nah, better use them to make another party: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1/5/ukraine-attacks-russian-barracks-deflects-iranian-drones

Let the limbs flow into air.
There are more kebab shops than churches in your country.
Also lesser precentage of population has HIV than in ruzzia, but what is the point?

If EU is so bad, why we have as many ruzzkies immigrating?
 
That means if the ratio will be in use for another year they will lose nearly as much as ruzzkie in first few months of war.


Nah, better use them to make another party: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1/5/ukraine-attacks-russian-barracks-deflects-iranian-drones

Let the limbs flow into air.
Didn't like 6x Ukrainian mobiks die in a Russian missile strike the same night? You know what they say, he who laughs last, laughs best.

Also lesser precentage of population has HIV than in ruzzia, but what is the point?

If EU is so bad, why we have as many ruzzkies immigrating?
They may speak Russian, but they're Ukrainians, and they're raising your HIV rates to Africa levels. Enjoy! Don't visit any Ukrainian prostitutes, you hear now?
Source: https://journals.lww.com/aidsonline...gees_from_ukraine__an_hiv_epidemic_is.18.aspx

Just a curious question, since you mentioned you're European. Are you of the draft age?
 
Have you ever seen how long it takes to cold start an Abrams? It's not even a minute, it's quieter then most stealthy diesel engines, and can be started by battery systems.

Talking shit, again.
Gas-guzzling even by americans:

Consuming more than a conventional even idling, even more when "tactical idling".

"This is the function to compensate for the bad response of gas turbines. It takes 4 seconds to generate 90% output from the usual idling. This delay may be fatal to combat vehicles."
So the 4s response time is already "dangerous", but shutting it down is completely OK, because it's "not even a minute" to start it up. Compared to a conventional diesel engine's startup time?

Also note the "high temperature exhaust" part, which is basically a giveaway to any thermal recon.

Lastly it's a multifuel engine, the people saying it's a gas guzzling machine that's useless compared to stronk T-90 tank is dumb.
Too bad I never made such claims, but nice strawman argument.
 
@LeChampion1992

Yeah it has great range for an MBT, but that's not relevant in this context. It has great range because the double edged sword for turbine engines is that their fuel consumption doesn't vary much depending on how fast the vehicle is moving. They get that great range because they can haul ass without using much more fuel than they would just creeping along at 5 miles per hour. That was great for the US in desert storm because the US could follow behind its tank columns with massive legions of fuel trucks across an open desert against an enemy entirely incapable of reliably targeting said fuel trucks. That's not the situation on the ground for Ukraine. They'll either A, have to drive to gas stations on a regular basis. This being basically suicide since Russia will no doubt start watching these stations and then shelling them as soon as they see tanks pulling up, or will wait for said tanks to return to their positions and then shell those positions. Option B is to bring fuel trucks to the tanks. This isn't really a good option either since this will inevitably give away their locations, and even the shitty grenade dropper drones we've been seeing can easily take out a fuel truck.

Also this isn't even getting into all the problems Abram's tanks will likely have with the mud there.
A T-72 has a ground pressure of 12.8 psi
A T-90 has a ground pressure of 13.34 psi
An Abrams has a ground pressure of 15 psi

We've seen T-72s and T-90s have problems with the mud in a lot of places there. More than likely the Abrams is going to have even worse problems.
(Since your response is the only one that isn't Z Ruzzia will win, us is gay copium post) I'll actually respond because you made valid points.

This war is definitely a game changer, we're seeing tactics used in Syria and the cartel wars make their way onto the battlefields in Ukraine.

But with the tanks, The T-55/M60 (With laser range finders, and digitized thermal imaging) Patton tanks are more then capable of going toe to toe with the Russian T-72M/T-90M.

This means that your medium, middle of the road, Tanks won't cut it unless they have thermal imagers and range finding.

For Ukraine they're slowly but surely getting more air cover to defend themselves from Russian terror strikes. This means they can slowly inch their supply lines closer into Russian lines (I'm being hypothetical here), I know the reality could change, the Z types could storm Kyiv and Zelinsky has his pelt ok Putin's wall. But more likely I see a situation where via debt payments the US will gauretee Ukraine s military victory and force a trade deal in order to get it's money back.

The Abrams and Leopard (possibly the Armata) tanks being sent in could make a difference seeing as They're much more survivable, these would basically be NATO Domestic abrams models, (IE depleted uranium, Next generation thermals, and Reactive anti Missile defense.)

(Bear with me I'm sorry it's a long explanation.)
In modern tank warfare we're finding out that an early cold war tank with modern thermals, and a super advanced tank actually are useful in this war. What is basically useless are the In-between tanks ie your T-90s and T-90AM models are basically useless against AGTMs. What isn't useless is the fact that an older T-62 you can slap a modern thermals system and destroy some of the best Russian gear. The Russian units have also understood this and are salvaging any scrap thermals they have and putting them on their T-62/T-55Ms they're pushing out.

However we're also finding that US artillery like himars, and modern MBTs could be useful.
Tl;Dr
The war in Ukraine is long and grueling and akin to WW1. Now if there is some sort of major spring/summer offensive whoever can get the better mobile warfare doctrine advantage in at the end of the day wins assuming both sides can survive until the ground dries up.
 
If Ukraine used their tank forces to good effect, where are those tank forces? In fact, where's the effect? All I see is a series of losses for Ukraine, burned tanks, and dead tank crews.

End result for Ukraine is that 20% of their land is gone, most of their population is dead or has fled, and all the tanks they had before couldn't do shit to stop it. I get that you cargo cult types like putting all your faith in some amazing wunderwaffe that will suddenly change the course of the war, but that's extremely delusional, to say the least.

To put an end to this Abrams/Leopard discussion. How long does it take to train a competent tank crew on one of those platforms? Six months? Eight months? Rush through it in two weeks and hope the Ukro mobiks can learn on the fly? By the time the first Abrams tank hits Ukrainian soil, Putin will be drinking tea in Kiev while admiring Zelensky's pelt on his wall.

Russia is at point that they
Russian army gives tanks to inept mobiks en mass. This has been the case since beginning of war.

need to Soviet Era ship from china

Untrained Russian mobiks do not know how to use few modern weapons left.

Use Soviet Era ammo and asks more from North Korea

Have drone shortage.
Don't worry about it, Europe is almost fully Muslim now. At least the Russian ones are Caucausian, not Somali or Syrian, lmao. They hate godless western swine too, so we got a common cause. The entire world is banding together the fight the NATO threat and send them back to where they came from. Brings a tear to my eye.

To put this in a language native to you NAFO shills, it's like when Magneto helped the Avengers to fight Thanos.

So now that we know Ukraine's goal for this year is to not fall down and shit themselves (too much), what do you think will be their goal for 2024 when they fail to meet their 2023 goal?


Wrong

Russia will rewind decades of progress and live behind iron curtain from evil western trannyniggerkikes.

Any Russian with practical skills and training fled Europe giving Russia brain drain

Coupled with low birth rate and high mortality rate.

Europe is so bad that Russians flee here, really makes me think.

By all means enjoy living a nation that turned into a third world nation and becomes second North Korea.

You'd be wise to learn mandarin before you end up in labor camp, comrade
 
They may speak Russian, but they're Ukrainians, and they're raising your HIV rates to Africa levels. Enjoy!
No, I'm talking about these guys: https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-russian-community-faces-harassment-and-hostility/a-61055867 now they are at least 3 million ruzzkies from ruzzkieland in Germany according to some sources.

Or that ugly girl: https://www.ibtimes.com/russian-wom...-germany-permanently-expelled-country-3639308

So, why they are going to EU? We really don't want them in EU, they should get it after second breaking windows. Can they just stay in their shithole without toilets, ugh?

Just a curious question, since you mentioned you're European. Are you of the draft age?
I should answer after you will give us answer when you are going to ruzzkies army. But I'm not a ruzzkie coward and I will answer now: I'm even a member of reserve (that was difficult because I'm living in other country than homeland).

So, when you are going to ruzzkie army? Prighozin needs that mine! Don't be just another internet child warrior, make you dream about going into battle real.
 
Nafo is basically slur NATO and HolHols (KolKols is how you pronounce it) are a slur for Ukrainians. I really don't understand why Russians seem to be Uber obsessed with genociding Ukrainians as an ethnic identity.
Lol no. That's both wrong and dumb. NAFO is a CIA-backed propaganda outfit that recruits Discord trannies and makes those fucking cringe dog memes. Do a search for #NAFO on Twitter.

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Here's their "meme museum", somewhere in a sub-basement in Langley, where they keep the troon vats.



Oh and it's also HOHOL, not holhol. Pronounced "khokhol" and means "crested one," after their stupid haircuts, like pictured here:
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It's starting to sound like you don't entirely know what you're talking about, bruh.

No, I'm talking about these guys: https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-russian-community-faces-harassment-and-hostility/a-61055867 now they are at least 3 million ruzzkies from ruzzkieland in Germany according to some sources.

Or that ugly girl: https://www.ibtimes.com/russian-wom...-germany-permanently-expelled-country-3639308

So, why they are going to EU? We really don't want them in EU, they should get it after second breaking windows. Can they just stay in their shithole without toilets, ugh?


I should answer after you will give us answer when you are going to ruzzkies army. But I'm not a ruzzkie coward and I will answer now: I'm even a member of reserve (that was difficult because I'm living in other country than homeland).

So, when you are going to ruzzkie army? Prighozin needs that mine! Don't be just another internet child warrior, make you dream about going into battle real.
Bro, in that case you're talking a lot of shit for someone who's country is practically occupied by Russians. Why are you waiting to be called up, and not volunteering right away? Are you not serious about your commitment to die for Ukraine?

Russia is at point that they
Russian army gives tanks to inept mobiks en mass. This has been the case since beginning of war.

need to Soviet Era ship from china

Untrained Russian mobiks do not know how to use few modern weapons left.

Use Soviet Era ammo and asks more from North Korea

Have drone shortage.



Wrong

Russia will rewind decades of progress and live behind iron curtain from evil western trannyniggerkikes.

Any Russian with practical skills and training fled Europe giving Russia brain drain

Coupled with low birth rate and high mortality rate.

Europe is so bad that Russians flee here, really makes me think.

By all means enjoy living a nation that turned into a third world nation and becomes second North Korea.

You'd be wise to learn mandarin before you end up in labor camp, comrade
Great job posting a bunch of outdated links not related to the conversation along with some schizo one liners, you're doing a brilliant job contributing to the thread and totally don't look like a GPT chat bot. Could you pass the Voight Kampff test?
 
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