Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Tombigbee]

He said in the last live stream that he was going to look at an apartment the next day. It was weird though because he said the current place’s lease was up in 6 months.

I can’t remember all that he said but I was left with impression he might rent them both for awhile. But it was like he realized mid-stream how that might look to his paypigs so he started saying things like ‘it’s good to just scope out the neighborhood’ etc whereas like I say he initially gave the impression that he was going to look at a very specific apartment and was ready to sign. Maybe I misunderstood though.

And yeah this statement about the landlord’s innocuous comment is odd too. And in the stream he once again made it sound like the idea of him being able to afford to buy a house was comically absurd. Can someone give us a current breakdown range of his income? I assume he’s full of shit but do we have confirmation?

He’s very slippery and (surprise!) phony when it comes to his money. Even Contra will acknowledge that he is more wealthy than he could have imagined when he was an Uber driver and that worrying about money is now a moot point for him. But Abigail doesn’t have a sincere bone in his male body and alternates between bragging and acting like a penny pinching Beardstown lady. Which is a good name for him har har. In the last PT production he said he was going to donate “most of” the proceeds to some tranny charity. Which is a meaningless statement as it’s pretty open ended and subjective.

 

[AfghanBlue]

I'm surprised he keeps name-dropping Steve Coogan since he worked with He Who Must Not Be Named.

Hmm, Graham Lineham (is that him?) looks way less Syndromey as a younger man.

Yes, Choobey probably is going to let two places- in London it’s often a total dash for a nice place, like you’ll be shown round a house with a few other people and you are on the phone to confirm you’ll take it halfway down the street basically who can dial quickest.
And that is in much less desirable areas as wOuld be befitting of a Tube.

He will not want to be caught short and can afford it, despite what he for some reason says. I don’t know why he thinks he has to plead poverty or insults our intelligence to expect people to believe it, on the other hand presenting himself as a celebrity, lol.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

Hmm, Graham Lineham (is that him?) looks way less Syndromey as a younger man.

Yes, Choobey probably is going to let two places- in London it’s often a total dash for a nice place, like you’ll be shown round a house with a few other people and you are on the phone to confirm you’ll take it halfway down the street basically who can dial quickest.
And that is in much less desirable areas as wOuld be befitting of a Tube.

He will not want to be caught short and can afford it, despite what he for some reason says. I don’t know why he thinks he has to plead poverty or insults our intelligence to expect people to believe it, on the other hand presenting himself as a celebrity, lol.

Yeah that's him and Arthur Matthews, the other Father Ted writer guy.
Getting old and fat (and I would no longer have sex with him) will do that to a guy, as will ball cancer treatments, ironically the same sorts of drugs that troons use. This is the future you chose, Choob. As he is now, so shall you be. (edit: and Glinner was less fat at the same age to start with, so I predict Olly's going to end up worse. Assuming of course that he's in the 59% that does get old.)

 

[AssignedEva]

Olly should've stuck with the manic pixie primary school teacher look he had a few videos back. Comes across relatively unthreatening, artsy, and well suited to his butterball frame. He's never gonna achieve the Contra horse face ghoul heroin chic.

You mean this look? Absolutely not!

I can tell what he was going for - a combination of some postmodern and bauhaus inspired photoshoots via baffle makeup coupled with an approximation of Jean-Paul Goude's maternity dress for Grace Jones


But the execution was so poor it just came across as deranged. Even if you imaging a woman with a more talented makeup artist

I mean what is this? It doesn't look like deliberate power clashing and there's a tea cosy being used as a hat. I found the whole thing very distressing, and not in the way he intended it to be!

If Ollie wants a go to look, it should be the Nigella Lawson video. He wasn't overly frumpy but instead was dressed in some relatively tasteful mumsy clothes, and because he was trying to ape as sort of 50s housewife his hair was coiffed and up. I wouldn't say he looked good, but it meant he was relatively well kempt and we were spared him squeezing into "sexy" costumes.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

You mean this look? Absolutely not!
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I can tell what he was going for - a combination of some postmodern and bauhaus inspired photoshoots via baffle makeup coupled with an approximation of Jean-Paul Goude's maternity dress for Grace Jones
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But the execution was so poor it just came across as deranged. Even if you imaging a woman with a more talented makeup artist
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I mean what is this? It doesn't look like deliberate power clashing and there's a tea cosy being used as a hat. I found the whole thing very distressing, and not in the way he intended it to be!

If Ollie wants a go to look, it should be the Nigella Lawson video. He wasn't overly frumpy but instead was dressed in some relatively tasteful mumsy clothes, and because he was trying to ape as sort of 50s housewife his hair was coiffed and up. I wouldn't say he looked good, but it meant he was relatively well kempt and we were spared him squeezing into "sexy" costumes.

Like a Britbong Dylan Mulvaney. It could work.
The makeup looks there remind me of the ones people were doing to try to fool facial recognition software, so he might want to keep some elements of those so AIs don't immediately identify him as a man.

 

[The Jackal]

Uptalk has been around for decades, but "putting question marks at the end of a statement in text to soften it" absolutely did start on Tumblr and spread from there. It's not just a written form of uptalk, because it's done very specifically at the end of only certain sentences.

I mean, no. I remember this being done long before Tumblr. We can just agree to disagree though.

He said in the last live stream that he was going to look at an apartment the next day. It was weird though because he said the current place’s lease was up in 6 months.

I can’t remember all that he said but I was left with impression he might rent them both for awhile. But it was like he realized mid-stream how that might look to his paypigs so he started saying things like ‘it’s good to just scope out the neighborhood’ etc whereas like I say he initially gave the impression that he was going to look at a very specific apartment and was ready to sign. Maybe I misunderstood though.

Wonder where he's moving to... Elsewhere in London? Though it might not be on the cards at the moment, I think it's highly probable that as both an ambitious YouTuber and ambitious actor he might one day make the move to LA, where both groups of people tend to congregate. Or possibly on the East Coast somewhere, tangibly close to where Contra lives.

Regarding buying a house: he probably just means he can't afford to buy one in a place where he wants to live. He's not interested in a semi-detached in Luton or Slough is he? It's beneath him.

 

[PuddIeduck]

And yeah this statement about the landlord’s innocuous comment is odd too. And in the stream he once again made it sound like the idea of him being able to afford to buy a house was comically absurd. Can someone give us a current breakdown range of his income? I assume he’s full of shit but do we have conconfirmation

Maybe he means he doesn't have the money to buy it outright? I could believe that, income aside, he doesn't have ~5mil just sitting in his bank.
And he's too retarded to see that basically sinking money into a rental property (a different one every so often at that) is a bigger waste than dropping a deposit(/down-payment) which he likely either does have, or has the resources to get ... heck, mortgage payments usually cost less than rent, so why wouldn't he?

 

[Tybalt The S@ucy B0y]

 

[PuddIeduck]

I've been watching some of Contra's old videos on the archive (yes, yes, give me all the puzzle pieces) and quite a few times Contra's sentences were interrupted by a black screen with [redacted] across it...

I know it's not a terribly hard joke to make, but what are the chances that Olly stole the joke from Contra?

 

[The Best of Me]

I've been watching some of Contra's old videos on the archive (yes, yes, give me all the puzzle pieces) and quite a few times Contra's sentences were interrupted by a black screen with [redacted] across it...

I know it's not a terribly hard joke to make, but what are the chances that Olly stole the joke from Contra?

The joke is okay in moderation, but Olly is so obviously making it to try and encourage speculation amongst his 'fans'

He does it so much it comes off like this, except markedly less amusing

 

[Kars den Karb]

The joke is okay in moderation, but Olly is so obviously making it to try and encourage speculation amongst his 'fans'

He does it so much it comes off like this, except markedly less amusing

Wow, that video was very discomforting.

 

[PuddIeduck]

The joke is okay in moderation, but Olly is so obviously making it to try and encourage speculation amongst his 'fans'

He does it so much it comes off like this, except markedly less amusing

Sure. It wasn't particularly hilarious when Contra did it, but she's not done it for years. and Contra's was clearly joking while as you say, Olly was trying to stoke the curiosity of fans...

 

[Tombigbee]

When Oliver had his fake meltdown over the large ($500) superchat, I didn’t even clip the whole thing because it went on and on. At one point he returned to the regular stream, then started fake crying again.

But I see now here in the comments that Diana Rivera was borderline offended and wants it known there’s no “relationship” at play here, this is strictly a patron supporting Art. Oliver had said “I know how parasocial relationships work.”

I suspect Diana will give an even BIGGER donation next time though.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Monty poses a question.
Tube responds with surprising honesty and trans-bashing details:

it is genuinely fucked how hard /whoever, went after him, for what was legit bullshit, and he wanst veen anywhere near the center cause of it?-

When he was detailing this stuff about haters before, i didn't realise it was fellow troons who were the guilties i thought he thought it was those dastardly kiwis, and the like.
the results are in, btw!

EDIT- just realised, maybe he makes such a deal of this because its an attachment to Contra- we experienced a trauma bond! see what i endured for thee!

even still, if these incidents did happen the way he tells it here, it is fucked truly, and im surprised he threw troons under the bus.

somewhat suprising- but oh

it appeaers that troons are unable to tell the difference between a bible thumping devote evangelical, and an over-it socialist butch lesbian.

(an aside- i never understood why Troons- and it always is troons- feel the need to comment the exact same thing as everyone else has already commented- they slightly reword it to give it a cringe bit of attempted originality, too. Idk if its the propagandist mindset, or if they think, maybe i can get in with this take, and it'll be the best worded one! and so it will be the purest take! people will....LIKE it! maybe EVEN retweet it! i cant wait! )

Moving on..

Tube extends and invitation o Paris to like..be his therapist or whatever? Lavish some praise on him, but then end it with a 'but rly babes, you work too hard, you need to look out for yourself for once! you do THE MOST, BABES "
none came, anyway.


next
Tube admits his voice is fake and gay, lol

last comment is a doozy; guy will have meant it totally casually, but it will have cut a Tube to the quick, lol.

 

[cia-log]

It’s just a written-word version of his new fake troon voice.
Adding ?’s as a kind of textual up-speak to sound more womanly.

I'm sure that's part of it, but there's this thing he does when fans get too comfortable with him where he just gets really standoffish and rude. Given how much he tries to win the approval of the upper castes of society himself, I'm guessing his rude and passive-aggressive replies to his fans is a reaction to seeing who actually idolizes him, and it's not millionaire celebrities and sex symbols.

I can't find many examples of what I'm talking about, but here's two from when he was doing his little documentary about himself and really trying to be Britain's next superstar:

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

(an aside- i never understood why Troons- and it always is troons- feel the need to comment the exact same thing as everyone else has already commented- they slightly reword it to give it a cringe bit of attempted originality, too. Idk if its the propagandist mindset, or if they think, maybe i can get in with this take, and it'll be the best worded one! and so it will be the purest take! people will....LIKE it! maybe EVEN retweet it! i cant wait! )

You're asking why troons copy other people and awkwardly try to pass it off as authentic?

 

[toobular]

Looks like the pitch to The Atlantic was rejected

 

[Francine StripeCheer]

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Nigga looks worse than Noel not even trying.

just realised that if Noel were coming of age today he'd probably troon out. In the 90s you could be involved in alt/cultural circles and just be a feminine man and wear weird fashion, but nowadays they'd probably convince him to be trans.

 

[AssignedEva]

Monty poses a question.
Tube responds with surprising honesty and trans-bashing details:
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it is genuinely fucked how hard /whoever, went after him, for what was legit bullshit, and he wanst veen anywhere near the center cause of it?-

When he was detailing this stuff about haters before, i didn't realise it was fellow troons who were the guilties i thought he thought it was those dastardly kiwis, and the like.
the results are in, btw!

EDIT- just realised, maybe he makes such a deal of this because its an attachment to Contra- we experienced a trauma bond! see what i endured for thee!

even still, if these incidents did happen the way he tells it here, it is fucked truly, and im surprised he threw troons under the bus.
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somewhat suprising- but oh
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it appeaers that troons are unable to tell the difference between a bible thumping devote evangelical, and an over-it socialist butch lesbian.

(an aside- i never understood why Troons- and it always is troons- feel the need to comment the exact same thing as everyone else has already commented- they slightly reword it to give it a cringe bit of attempted originality, too. Idk if its the propagandist mindset, or if they think, maybe i can get in with this take, and it'll be the best worded one! and so it will be the purest take! people will....LIKE it! maybe EVEN retweet it! i cant wait! )

Moving on..

Tube extends and invitation o Paris to like..be his therapist or whatever? Lavish some praise on him, but then end it with a 'but rly babes, you work too hard, you need to look out for yourself for once! you do THE MOST, BABES "
none came, anyway.
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next
Tube admits his voice is fake and gay, lol
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last comment is a doozy; guy will have meant it totally casually, but it will have cut a Tube to the quick, lol.

In some ways it's surprising that he'd say the most hate he's ever received is off trans people - not in that its true (we been knew that he's repeatedly failed to get terfs to care about him) but that he'd admit to it. It does feel very off message, although as you observe it probably is to do with Contra.

I do have to wonder what's wrong with someone who engages in that sort of harassment. That might sound rich coming from a farmer, but this is basically just a mean gossip forum that the cows don't have to look at. It says a lot that Ollie is coming across as reasonable here.

Amusingly though the Buck Angel stuff happened in 2019 so in this particular case, it wasn't trans-on-trans violence but a bunch of troons attacking a cis white male.

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...and I recant what I was saying about Ollie being reasonable. Everyone's on strike, Carole Vorderman is doing investigative journalism on the Chancellor's tax fraud and Ollie... wants to talk about how Starmer might be bad for minorities? Top notch.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

I think Olly wants to be a Tory psy-op but Sunak won’t return his calls.