Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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Question for both sides.
Can those shiny tanks actually change the route of the war or tilt the table to the ukranian side ever so slightly? for me they feel pointless, won't make a difference, are expensive, a pointless escalation from NATO and a burden on european taxpayers. But i want to see what others think. almost feels like the HIMARS could do more.
 
It'd be an interesting thing to see, asking the EU countries to drop absolutely everything and repatriate men back to Ukraine, thus not only violating a principle of nonrefoulement but incurring millions in additional costs.

I'm not worried, no but it's touching that you care.
Did you register though? And, you know it's not that difficult to repatriate; you are there on a special visa, so it's as simple as 'oops VISA expired' and you're in the trenches where you belong instead of sucking at our nipples.
 
when they produce nearly nothing to sell
Holy shit you are one of the most economically illiterate people I've ever had the misfortune to engage with. Russia, India, and China of course make nothing and have no natural resources no exports at all in fact; of course what etherial wisdom from the gods flowing like mana from heaven. You're either a brain rotted boomer, a literal child, or mentally ill.
 
And, you know it's not that difficult to repatriate; you are there on a special visa, so it's as simple as 'oops VISA expired' and you're in the trenches where you belong instead of sucking at our nipples.
Sucking at "our" nipples? Nigger, I pay taxes to my resident country too, if you're implying that I live on welfare.
I'm sure they'll take exception to a fellow Kiwi. Those EU types are really miffed by the forum users.
Bottom line is, I understand why some people are genuinely upset by me. However, I'm not going anywhere and I have a good reason to believe that I'm staying right where I am. If I don't - well, Alhamdulillah.
 
It's alright my dear Vatnik, I have secondary and tertiary sources for you
And another
TASS officially stated this too

How does it feel to support a ideology that brought back cold war era nuclear rattling, economic decline, complete exodus of western companies and cut off medication, essential supplies and modern technology?

80s back, baby!
> MSN link to that same exact Metro story. Even says Metro in the header. Fail.
> Eurasian Times is pretty obvious Russian propaganda. Thought you'd know that.
> TASS? Come on.

So you're falling for obvious Russian propaganda and then asking me why I don't trust it 100 percent? That's a big brain move right there.

BREAKING: Russian T14 Armata Advanced Battle Tanks seen rolling off the assembly lines in Kramatorsk and Belgorod

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You mean Pawrmata, of course.
 
Question for both sides.
Can those shiny tanks actually change the route of the war or tilt the table to the ukranian side ever so slightly? for me they feel pointless, won't make a difference, are expensive, a pointless escalation from NATO and a burden on european taxpayers. But i want to see what others think. almost feels like the HIMARS could do more.
They'll give the hohols another far superior weapon that will kill Russians in carload lots. So yeah they won't really change THAT much. More of the same really
 
Question for both sides.
Can those shiny tanks actually change the route of the war or tilt the table to the ukranian side ever so slightly? for me they feel pointless, won't make a difference, are expensive, a pointless escalation from NATO and a burden on european taxpayers. But i want to see what others think. almost feels like the HIMARS could do more.
Escalation is irrelevant. The escalation happened 24 Feb 2022. What is going on now is dealing with the escalatory, spergy, rapey threat, which comes with some risks, but worrying is futile.
The tanks can change some battles, but they are in insufficient numbers and they need proper artillery, air and infantry support, which Ukraine might have some issues providing, and might result in over-cautious wielding of the Western tanks. Much more than that is needed to help Ukraine.
More rockets would be better, but again, numbers matter. This is obviously not a war of hitting some precision targets and the enemy running scared. It's a butt clenching war of attrition where you need to kill a lot and inflict grievous harm on the enemy, or it will consolidate, build trenches and defenses, and remain holed up. Goes for both sides, each has shown that it's willing to sacrifice men by the thousands.
 
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You exist in your own reality. Russia only seized Crimea after Victoria Nuland and her fucking kikes overthrew the elected government of Ukraine in a violent coupe. Crimea has been the base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet continuously from 13 May 1783 onwards until current year with the only interruption being at the hands of the Germans during the world wars. To act like GAYTO overthrowing the government of Ukraine and threatening Russian strategic security was not a provocation of the highest degree and that seizing Crimea was not warranted is to admit you are a mental child who is susceptible to the emotional rhetoric of the western anglo-judaic media. Crimea and Ukraine were Russian for hundreds of years before 1991. Ukraine is a fake fucking country created by Soviet Jews and vile intellectuals of the Hromadas to begin with.
i actually agree with a lot of wht ur saying. the coup was meant to make ukraine natos frontier in its eternal quest to destroy russia. this has been the meta of geopolitics since ww2, everyone knows this song and dance already. a preemptive invasion is 100% justified (why putin didnt do it in 2014 is an eternal mystery.)

what i take issue with is the lack of skepticism from some pro russian posters. this is geopolitics, take the rose tinted glasses off. the putin regime doesnt give a fuck abt the donbass. the same way they dont give a fuck abt south ossetia and abkhazia from the 08 invasion of georgia. and for tht matter, the same way the clinton regime didnt give a fuck abt kosovo when nato bombed the balkans. and sry, but the world today is wht it is. stop living in the past. idc if X nation used to own X territory. tht doesnt justify war, if it did the entire world would be on fire. russians should accept some responsibility for a change. ukraine is a fake country created by communists? well who put the communists in power to begin with? who murdered the tsar and worships the rotting corpse of lenin? (in the same square as saint basils cathedral, fucking disgusting.) who starved ukraine yet stll think they have a right to rule over it? (oh thats right, the ussr...couldnt of been poor innocent russia. funny how russians put tht mask on/take it off when it suits them.) okay, catharsis over.

ps: i respect the "homeland" concept and who should own what. but im not gonna white knight for russia, not until they acknowledge the sea of blood that goes up to their knees.
 
How does it feel to support a hegemon that brought back cold war era nuclear rattling, US economic decline, complete exodus of western companies from the EU to America, the cut off medication by China and the loss of essential supplies and modern technology from Europe?

1930s back, baby!

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i actually agree with a lot of wht ur saying. the coup was meant to make ukraine natos frontier in its eternal quest to destroy russia. this has been the meta of geopolitics since ww2, everyone knows this song and dance already. a preemptive invasion is 100% justified (why putin didnt do it in 2014 is an eternal mystery.)

what i take issue with is the lack of skepticism from some pro russian posters. this is geopolitics, take the rose tinted glasses off. the putin regime doesnt give a fuck abt the donbass. the same way they dont give a fuck abt south ossetia and abkhazia from the 08 invasion of georgia. and for tht matter, the same way the clinton regime didnt give a fuck abt kosovo when nato bombed the balkans. and sry, but the world today is wht it is. stop living in the past. idc if X nation used to own X territory. tht doesnt justify war, if it did the entire world would be on fire. russians should accept some responsibility for a change. ukraine is a fake country created by communists? well who put the communists in power to begin with? who murdered the tsar and worships the rotting corpse of lenin? (in the same square as saint basils cathedral, fucking disgusting.) who starved ukraine yet stll think they have a right to rule over it? (oh thats right, the ussr...couldnt of been poor innocent russia. funny how russians put tht mask on/take it off when it suits them.) okay, catharsis over.

ps: i respect the "homeland" concept and who should own what. but im not gonna white knight for russia, not until they acknowledge the sea of blood that goes up to their knees.
He didn't do it in 2014 because the Russian economy couldn't have survived the initial hit to it. You are also wrong about Putin. He sees himself as Tsar, which is to say the big father of all Russian people. He wants to leave a legacy of a strong and unified Russia in the face of foreign opposition like Peter and Alexander did. This is pure ego to some degree but Putin also has sacrificed his whole life to his people working 12-20 hours a day for the last 30 years to put the pieces of the fall of communism back together. Are he and his friends corrupt yes, but this is just how Russia always has been with its ruling class and frankly no different from our own ruling class who hides behind thin veneer of political puppets that democracy affords them. You seem to think emotionally and not strategically if you cannot understand how deeply a role history plays in this whole issue. Jews obviously did all that you describe but the answer you want is Russians. Also presuming everyone who doesn't support the feminism and faggotry of the west is a Russian is more emotional coping of a child. The reality of the world from beginning to end is you have to protect yourself against the selfish interests of others with violence and that has played out in statecraft since civilization began. All nation states exist upon rivers of blood who built the foundations of the borders they occupy.
 
> MSN link to that same exact Metro story. Even says Metro in the header. Fail.
> Eurasian Times is pretty obvious Russian propaganda. Thought you'd know that.
> TASS? Come on.
So TASS a Russian source is unreliable? That's not very pro russian of you.
Also it's fallacious
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and contradictory of your previous statements, do you love those gays and nogs that threaten the motherland?
I'm curious how quickly you change your mind on the subject
What can you buy from BRICS nations? Food and fuel, neither of which Europe produces in large enough amounts for their own needs. And other stuff that apparently nobody needs like rare earth metals for EV batteries, etc. If nobody is willing to sell food or fuel for your dirty gay Euros or your stinky greasy dollars, you can maybe eat your currency. I hear paper has some nutritional value, kind of like tree bark. Oh wait, you got that gay plastic money now. Sorry bro.
Most euro nations are food independent, have firm agriculture and are energy independent
Meanwhile in Russia
Russia's food inflation
Shit income, soviet tier
Most of the wages go to rent.
I know for a fact people who escaped Russia before this shit show had to live with their parents even as adults.
Food and electricity take what's left.
Average Russian cannot afford shit much less live up to standards of those gay euros.
Your gold doesn't matter when Russia is cut off from international banking and trade.

Enjoy your potatoes, comrade, Heil Z!
 
the putin regime doesnt give a fuck abt the donbass.
I hate to break it to you but DC, London and Den Haag don't even know you exist, and wouldn't care if they did.

How does it feel to be less important to your rulers than a medieval serf? At least then they understood serfs were needed to till the land, tend to the livestock and make goods; China does that for them now so you are irrelevant.
 
(why putin didnt do it in 2014 is an eternal mystery.)
That was only 6 years after nearly fucked-up war with Georgia. They didn't have enough forces to conduct large scale offensive operation at that time.

Between 2014 and 2022 they do some changes (mostly - organizational) in their land forces and they started war last year. We cannot call this war a succesfull.
 
I hate to break it to you but DC, London and Den Haag don't even know you exist, and wouldn't care if they did.

How does it feel to be less important to your rulers than a medieval serf? At least then they understood serfs were needed to till the land, tend to the livestock and make goods; China does that for them now so you are irrelevant.
No elite gives a fuck about any of us, chill yo tits woman
 
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