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Are MauLer's videos too long?

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  • Fuck YES

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The problem I have with this model is that it doesn't predict different results than the critical rubric that Drinker has rolled out for several years. The Prey trailer did send mostly the wrong signals, while the movie remedied several of the usual female protagonist failings - she was lucky as well as skilled, survived on her wits instead of her feats, never was dominant over the antagonist, portrayed a clear sense of danger, wasn't even the best fighter in her group, etc. I find his review a little easygoing but mostly consistent with his previous work.

He's riding the algorithm, obviously, but the GOW:R video is the first time I can think of that he's stepped in a serious self-contradiction.

As far as real film criticism: of course it doesn't apply to any of this stuff. This is catharsis, news, entertainment, parasocial bonding, recommendations, very basic dramatic theory, and a little bit politics. But this also describes Synth's content, and his criticism of Drinker isn't about the specificity of the content so much as Drinker and other youtubers holding back on the really uncomfortable stuff because they want to make money. And maybe this is where I diverge from you and him: I don't care as much if they hold something back. However, it's a whole other matter to acknowledge certain things and defend them.
My point is that his "previous work" isn't anything special either. I specifically remember he covered Midsommar almost immediately after Red Letter Media did and he gave a piss-poor take on it because he didn't really get it. This is where I really noticed the grifting taking place--I watch RLM's video on day and then, all of a sudden, Drinker's video pops up soon after... Yeah, he's totally covering Midsommar because he just loves film so much. It's not because some huge YouTube channel also happened to cover it, right?

Overall he doesn't actually engage the medium in any way that's actually meaningful. That's why he thrives on capeshit because he can't see the forest for the trees so there's media made for the more simple-minded folks of the world.

The thing is, he's not contradicting himself when he praises GoWR because he's on board with the mainstream critics. The guy knows who butters his bread and so goes where the wind take him. So he'll quietly brush aside all the obvious woke details GoWR has because he can't be too contrary the mainstream or he risks losing his rent.

I don't even give him credit for "basic" tier stuff. Someone could read the synopses of films off Wikipedia plus other trivia and call themselves a critic and achieve the same results.

This is the entire reason people follow him. It has nothing to do with actual criticism of anything.


Oh, gee, I dunno, Drinker. If I toss a coin, will it land heads or tails?

I guess we're just obligated to click the video to find out, right?
 
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That is just not true.
There are shows for children like Paw Patrol, Peppa Pig or Spongebob as well as tons of other ones that adults just have no clue about unless they're parents (seriously, I looked it up and kids today have more choice than my millenial ass ever had).
As far as movies go, if we remove the ones trying to push some ideology, just this year we had The Bad Guys, Minions 2, League of Superpets, Sonic 2 and Puss in Boots 2 which is a really good movie in general.

There's plenty of stuff for both kids and adults, don't let the MauLer types color your worldview.
Peppa Pig is ongoing for 20 years, Spongebob also exists 20 years, Paw Patrol for 10 years. Despicable Me came out 10 years ago, League of Superpets is based on decades old comics, the original Sonic game came out 30 years ago, Shrek was made 20 years ago.

Think about it, of all the show you mentioned only one is not ongoing for a decade or based on a cultural icon that's at least ten years old. Even the repackaged Super Sentai footage or the light hearted adaption of an edge lord comics I grew up on were at least a novel concepts. Yeah there's choice but kids should watch something new that is made for them instead of living in the nostalgia of their parents.
 
More prevalently are the Chinese, I suspect.


However, I also suspect some of our invaders from the southern border are having their own influence.

This is true. Since the 50's Hollywood has been infiltrated by communists. No doubt that China, being a communist nation, wants to take down America in order for them to be the leading world super power. Hollywood, being a place infiltrated by communist ideology, is all too happy with helping communist China in dismantling capitalist America.
Nah they're not, most of the time there's actual woke feminist shit in there when they complain it's just that it's been more or less normalized so the argument is about who has the correct "badass and strong" chicks lol.

Complaining about feminism and gender shit on YouTube is in general way safer than race so they tend to focus on the former rather than the latter.

What I am trying to understand is to what degree are they conscious of the obvious misdirection's and lies they play with this race stuff when it comes to the stuff they like. Do they actually believe the trannies behind GOW are not woke and aren't putting woke shit in the game? They think all these black people in a norse setting is just a curious stylistic choice? It's mind boggling.

From that video you can also notice how they almost play a controlled opposition-like role in the whole politics in media shit. You have to really hammer in the progressive messaging for them to call something woke, but if there's so much as a wiff of (non)-plausible deniability they will eagerly go ahead and attack people calling that piece of media woke as "Thinking everything is woke", "Acting just like the SJWs", "Being outraged by everything" . They are very, very eager to attack their own viewerbase/ostensible side to prove how non-partisan, non-racist, non-outraged and objective they are. Basically if it isn't dead obvious and completely undeniable they will try to shame people out of calling that piece of media woke, and by doing that they move the ratchet on what's considered "woke" or not in media.

These people are in a way more dangerous than the SJWs because of this behavior. Imagine going back 10 years and telling someone that black vikings/black norse gods in games isn't a political statement, that's the overton window shifting.
Synth brought up a good point in that the Fandom Menace is more or less controlled opposition. Just like Fox News they are here to placate the cattle, keep them in line and herd them back into the herd if they begin to step out of line. It doesn't help that many members of the Fandom Menace have been on and do work for the Daily Wire and Glenn Beck's corpo. Deep down, these people don't hate woke culture. They in fact love it and want it to continue. Without woke culture they would lose their main form of grifting. This is why they will defend woke elements in certain media like video games. They want the grift to go on forever.
 
Yeah I mean Critical Drinker definitely does whatever he can to get as many views with as little work as possible, and his criticism is incredibly shallow but I dislike the tendency of people, like the ones in that video to pretend that because of that the idea of media in general getting worse or woke shit being everywhere is just something he's making up.
 
Peppa Pig is ongoing for 20 years, Spongebob also exists 20 years, Paw Patrol for 10 years. Despicable Me came out 10 years ago, League of Superpets is based on decades old comics, the original Sonic game came out 30 years ago, Shrek was made 20 years ago.
Oh, so your argument isn't really "there's no media for kids to grow up on" like you've said in your previous post, it's "franchise bad".
There's plenty of original stuff too, I just didn't mention it because that wasn't your argument and also, those names would tell you absolutely nothing, just like they tell me nothing.
 
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Peppa Pig is ongoing for 20 years, Spongebob also exists 20 years, Paw Patrol for 10 years. Despicable Me came out 10 years ago, League of Superpets is based on decades old comics, the original Sonic game came out 30 years ago, Shrek was made 20 years ago.

Think about it, of all the show you mentioned only one is not ongoing for a decade or based on a cultural icon that's at least ten years old. Even the repackaged Super Sentai footage or the light hearted adaption of an edge lord comics I grew up on were at least a novel concepts. Yeah there's choice but kids should watch something new that is made for them instead of living in the nostalgia of their parents.
It feels autistic listing off kid's shows, but i have to make a point so i'll bite the bullet.
there is plenty of new stuff for kids. most recent disney movies (originals) are mostly inoffensive, whether its stuff like Moana, Inside out, souls, zootopia, encanto.

Then there are stuff on netflix for kids, like The Sea Beast (genuinely great movie, for the most part) and Klaus, Del toro's pinocchio, as well as stuff like The Dragon Prince.

Then there is a ton of stuff like adventure time and amazing world of gumball on cartoon network which manages to do the secretely edgy but mostly somewhat intelligient humor and adventure stuff that kids will enjoy, as well as the billions of shows that Warner Bros fucking nuked, but still.

For younger kids there is the usual Dora the explorer type rip-offs, as well as stuff that is several rungs above the likes of peppa pig (Bluey for example).

The problem here is that you are looking at media through the extremely foggy lens of nostalgia, where you wind up with this misconception that the media landscape in the past was better, based entirely on the fact that the only things that remain from said media landscape is the good stuff.

Most shows from the early 2000s died, but spongebob remained.
Most games from the early 2000s were shite, but AOE2 remained.

There is unique and new stuff out there, but when you fail to find it dont blame media, blame the consumer (you).
 

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Why are you even looking at what's in the video to determine this? Just look at his subs. Look at how much he's capitalizing on the algorithm. He has a channel is full of coverage of trailers despite the fact that people familiar with the industry know trailers don't always give you a worthwhile grasp of what the final product will actually be. He continually trashes Marvel but continually fills his channel with Marvel.

Why would a film critic who loves the art -orm continually to pay homage to people and media they have said are decidedly bad for the art-form?

Why is he giving so much attention to media that he has said Western audiences are flocking to Eastern media?

Stop associating huge numbers with quality. Nothing he says in that video gives any indication he did anything other than copy-paste someone else's reviews and smatter a bit of his own glib within.

Yes, he's definitely watching the narrative and picking whatever side butters his bread. You must have missed this part, but Synth specifically points out that Drinker left his "criticism" section at the end of his video purposely because, by that time, most of his viewer will have tuned him out. That's what this business is all about. These guys aren't even remotely on the level of actual film criticism, this is just click-bait, rage-bait for anyone who isn't looking for anything so serious as to acknowledge engage the medium as it is.
Imagine watching "actual fandom" unironically.
Drinker is fine, he gets all his points out reasonably. Never saw any substantive criticism of him beyond having a bad take or making the wrong judgement from time to time.
The woke shit is bad, but even woke shit can have some qualities, and shit that isn't woke doesn't mean it is automatically good.
 
I would like to take a moment to just point out that in 2019 MauLer released part 0 of the force awakens critique and despite being paid 2K a month on Patreon and getting more in super chats than most waiters make in tips, can't be assed to finish the series because he's too busy playing video games and talking with friends on how wrong people are.

That is all, carry on.
 
Imagine watching "actual fandom" unironically.

Imagine refusing to watch stuff that doesn't conform to your views and feeling safe within your own echo chamber.

Drinker is fine, he gets all his points out reasonably.

Is that why he changed the title of his video? You know, to better reflect how "reasonable" his views were in hindsight? :lol:

At least Drinker has good taste. Even if he’s lazy. Not true with Mauler.

That said, he’s probably not a big gamer. He plays the big games, reviews them leniently. Because he doesn’t care about games as much.

Good taste in what? His channel is full of capeshit and trailers for capeshit. And, just as someone else posted earlier, he can't even be bothered to remember examples of Japanese films he has watched even though he claims more and more people in the West are watching them.

Name one remarkable thing he has said that actually made you think about something beyond what you already agree with anyway.
 
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To drive the nail home that these people are grifters, someone mentioned that Drinker, on his Kickstarter, is charging close to 400 usd for digital copies of his books (he wrote 9 of them). You can get the entire Harry Potter series in hardcover for less then 400 dollars. The hubris. This is how you know that someone is a grifter.
 
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Imagine refusing to watch stuff that doesn't conform to your views and feeling safe within your own echo chamber.



Is that why he changed the title of his video? You know, to better reflect how "reasonable" his views were in hindsight? :lol:



Good taste in what? His channel is full of capeshit and trailers for capeshit. And, just as someone else posted earlier, he can't even be bothered to remember examples of Japanese films he has watched even though he claims more and more people in the West are watching them.

Name one remarkable thing he has said that actually made you think about something beyond what you already agree with anyway.
They're a joke, and they're cringe social justice types that just stand there complaining about how people are calling them gay and beta for liking gay and beta material.
People are allowed to change the title of something if it doesn't reflect the content or the intent of it, whats the problem there?
Drinker's audience numbers in his genre reflect his ability to be in touch with their common interests. So when he makes a suggestion to see something, its more likely that hes saying its good because its good, not because of any exterior or ulterior motivation. If anything the major thing that pisses of Critical Drinker is he says he wants content that pleases the audience and not "The Message" which is actually a pretty common point of view, and isn't even political really. Its a rejection of the idea that one point of view should be the default in all media, when art should be made by a person or a team with a specific point of view they want to put out there for general audiences.
Name one remarkable thing he has said that actually made you think about something beyond what you already agree with anyway.
I'm not his audience, but if someone out there with influence is praising movies I already know are good, then I think thats a net win for good things.
Because, if we actually do have a similar taste in movies, or like similar stories, maybe the suggestions this person is making for me are good suggestions.
How is that an L for the channel or me as a viewer?
Nothing critical drinker does should be controversial in my opinion, hes almost boomer-like in his point of view.

Wheres the unreasonable opinion in any of these suggested movies? A Spider-man movie?
If your point is he is too milquetoast, and everyone already knows these movies, then it just confirms my point about how he is in touch with his general audience, which has general interests in generally good movies.
How is this a problem?
 
They're a joke, and they're cringe social justice types that just stand there complaining about how people are calling them gay and beta for liking gay and beta material.
People are allowed to change the title of something if it doesn't reflect the content or the intent of it, whats the problem there?
Drinker's audience numbers in his genre reflect his ability to be in touch with their common interests. So when he makes a suggestion to see something, its more likely that hes saying its good because its good, not because of any exterior or ulterior motivation. If anything the major thing that pisses of Critical Drinker is he says he wants content that pleases the audience and not "The Message" which is actually a pretty common point of view, and isn't even political really. Its a rejection of the idea that one point of view should be the default in all media, when art should be made by a person or a team with a specific point of view they want to put out there for general audiences.

I'm not his audience, but if someone out there with influence is praising movies I already know are good, then I think thats a net win for good things.
Because, if we actually do have a similar taste in movies, or like similar stories, maybe the suggestions this person is making for me are good suggestions.
How is that an L for the channel or me as a viewer?
Nothing critical drinker does should be controversial in my opinion, hes almost boomer-like in his point of view.

Wheres the unreasonable opinion in any of these suggested movies? A Spider-man movie?
If your point is he is too milquetoast, and everyone already knows these movies, then it just confirms my point about how he is in touch with his general audience, which has general interests in generally good movies.
How is this a problem?

Make some kind of argument as to why they're incorrect in anything they've said. Stop saying they're in non-conformity with your beliefs or views like you're incapable of thinking beyond your simple dislike of what they stand for and actually address what they say here. I realize they're a bunch of progressive faggots, but they're still correct in this instance.

Drinker changed the title of the video to reflect the audience score because he discovered the film wasn't as bad as he had predicted. This is how YouTube works. You talk of "audience numbers" reflecting some bullshit but you haven't even done any of your own research on because you're relying completely on wishful thinking and echo-chambered ideals.
In no way do these numbers reflect someone who is "in touch." What these numbers reflect is someone who knows how to work YouTube algorithmic systems and make effective clickbait for simps like you to click on because you can't help yourself.

The guy's channel has 1,590,000 subscribers. His All Quiet On The Western Front video which was posted more than a month ago has accumulated only accumulated about 885,000 views, aobut 7,000 comments, and 65,000 likes. The total number of views makes up about 50% of his total subs. This as opposed to his Velma video which was posted last week and has accumulated 3,673,520 views, 33,666 comments, and 205,000 likes. The total number of views makes up about 230% of his subs.

It's pretty clear what the majority of his audience want from his channel, and it's not critical analysis or love of classics.

Whatever his stated philosophies are don't mean jack because he clearly isn't trying to change the industry. In fact, he is indirectly supporting it by turning his channel into some hyper-awareness factory for whatever trash is churned out by the people he claims he thinks are ruining the industry. He's a parasite. Hell, he can't even prove the systems he believes are in place are actually real given he hasn't actually worked in the industry. But that doesn't matter because YouTube doesn't vet people who talk out their ass about whatever they please--people can lie all day and give whatever philosophical underpinnings will cater to what makes their followers warm and fuzzy inside.

Where's the unreasonable opinion? In what the video you just posted? The one on They Boys?

Okay...

Not all the superheroes are illustrated as complete assholes. That's 1.
Black Noir DOES speak. That's 2. (Drinker obviously didn't read the comics, else he would know this.)
You can easily figure out where Karl Urban is from by looking it up online. That's 3.
Excessive violence is not equal to dark humor. That's 4.

Here's 5:

Drinker watched the show without knowledge of the source material which is a huge discrepancy because he is going to judge the show for how it was re-tailored by amazon and not through the eyes of the original authors. He clearly doesn't know how "wokified" the show became during its transition:

Hughie, who is powered in the comic, is a weak beta male in the show.
Queen Maeve is turned into a token lesbian. In the comics, she had a child named The Legend, which obviously means she had sex with a man.
In the show, the only powered member just so-happens to be a woman. That's The Female (of the species). In the comics, Hughie, Butcher and Mother’s Milk are also powered.
In the show, there are multiple scenes of full male nudity. Coincidentally, there is minimal female nudity.
The Frenchman has his balls squeezed by a female in public. Nobody says or does anything in response.
Butcher is physically assaulted by Mother’s Milk’s wife due to her being angry at him. Nobody has a problem with this.
The Deep is sexually assaulted by a female. While Episode 01 includes rape warnings, there are no rape warnings for this episode.
A Christian group is shown as anti-gay while being led by a closeted homosexual.

Mallory who was a man in the comic is played by a woman--Laila Robins.
Stillwell is also a man in the comic, replaced by a woman--Elizabeth Shue.
The Frenchman is race-swapped and played by an Isreali actor named Tomer Kapon.

But here's the kicker. This is 6:

Drinker is one of these guys who won't even be remotely cognizant of the fact that all the social commentary made by The Boys is tailored specifically to fall in line with the mainstream perceptions about celebrities, politicians, and oligarchs alike. Because woke Lefties, while exceedingly blind to their own vanities, will still see The Boys illustrations as being indicative not of the mainstream Left, but of the Right. Supes as a proxy for police violence, the government being behind the crack epidemic, all men being pigs, etc.

Hell, Homelander was turned into an absolute a parody of right wing Republicans for the past two seasons. The show is egregiously left-leaning. So, if Drinker really wonders how The Boys can be made in this day and age, he clearly doesn't understand wokeness.

It's the same here as it was with GoWR.
 
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Drinker is one of these guys who won't even be remotely cognizant of the fact that all the social commentary made by The Boys is tailored specifically to fall in line with the mainstream perceptions about celebrities, politicians, and oligarchs alike. Because woke Lefties, while exceedingly blind to their own vanities, will still see The Boys illustrations as being indicative not of the mainstream Left, but of the Right. Supes as a proxy for police violence, the government being behind the crack epidemic, all men being pigs, etc.

The best example of this is if you look at the "criticism" boys has for each side. The boys is praised by people who swallow the show's mask as the "centrist" show, that mocks both sides as if that's some kind of moral good. In truth this is a progressive/ dirtbag-left kind of show. The right wing is shown as dumb, weak, fat, ugly, irrational, scared ect... Meanwhile any "left wing" criticism people proport the show to have is actually criticism of corporations not doing weakness right, they mock and shit on corporations for doing wokness for profit rather than wokeness for ideological principles.

That way any bits of wokeness that might be unsavory to the viewer are projected onto corporate directors, politicians ect that just do it for the money according to the show, but the core ideas are of progressive shit are exonerated. Any semblance of a right wing worldview is of course mocked and portrayed as dangerous.

All of that aside the show is such a pain in the ass to watch because so much of the cast is incredibly annoying.
 
So the ultimate criticism from @Rusty Cheeseknife is Drinker's not "anti-woke" enough and he didn't read a comic so he doesn't criticize it against its basis.
But all the comments about numbers and popularity just sound like sour grapes that drinker has an audience that agrees with his sensibilities, but not Rusty's sensibilities.
As in the same crippling critic bullshit we've seen a million times before, where a guy like SK for example thinks he knows better than everyone else and is upset someone else is getting attention and money instead of him getting to write and direct his own Spider-man series or something. Its Movie-bob armchair general thinking. If you can change the industry go do it, but you won't so keep bitching online! maybe you can make a few adbucks off it, sell some merch. Many such cases.
Whatever his stated philosophies are don't mean jack because he clearly isn't trying to change the industry.
Should he not have a youtube channel where he can complain about what he doesn't like, promote his books, and shoot the shit with disaffected people?
I mean say what you want about grifters or whatever but as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing out of the ordinary here when it comes to fucking media reviews.
If everything is shit anyway why the fuck are you still watching at all? Who gives a fuck what anyone says about this crap if it all sucks and is gay jew bullshit anyway?
Normies will never care about your problems. They don't give a fuck that this character from the Ennis book is supposed to not say anything.

Do you see how retarded it is to get precious about shit everyone calls grifting, when modern mass media is just grifting nostalgia and trends in the first place with all this remake bullshit? You mentioned Velma, and its a complete shit show from every angle. Are you really going to say to someone who talks about current day media should not talk about something that is new, current, and trending out of a sense of principle? Like they should be talking about how great Eggers is as a director instead of if Avatar is going to make 2billion or whatever. You gotta face the fact that the general audience will mog the niche audience constantly, and that no one gives a fuck about arthouse niche films except people who care about such things.

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Here's a great example. Mauler's audience doesn't give a fuck about him praising a character study starring Anthony Hopkins, they want to see him rip into Justice League.
So hes a moron for leaning into what his audience is interested in?

I don't watch any new shit anymore, so I don't give two fucks about your conversation about the "culture war" to be quite honest.
As far as I'm concerned this whole hollywood thing could end tomorrow and I'd be fine with it. But it won't because someone is going to be a lazy fuck and turn on the TV.

If someone wants to go out there and "work to change the industry, and get more people to watch unknown and niche media" thats great, but it won't ever get the amount of attention that something popular will, and thats fine.
But you would be a fucking moron to not use what is in front of you to make the situation better for yourself, and what you care about.
And ironically, Drinker is actually engaging with industry professionals. Perhaps your whole attitude is too caustic where his is amenable enough to get access to talent.

For example here. Being able to talk to professionals is breaking out of the internet space into the professional space. It's why I like Gamersnexus for example.
No one out there in the film world is going to want to talk to you. Try it though, see what happens.

He's very clear about what he's there for, and I wonder what you think has changed aside from making a living off of this stuff.
I think you're being uncharitable and dishonest about Drinker, and I don't even really watch his stuff unless there's a specific reason to.
If you think hes not a good enough critic, you should do better yourself instead of making digimon shit.
 
So the ultimate criticism from @Rusty Cheeseknife is Drinker's not "anti-woke" enough and he didn't read a comic so he doesn't criticize it against its basis.
But all the comments about numbers and popularity just sound like sour grapes that drinker has an audience that agrees with his sensibilities, but not Rusty's sensibilities.
As in the same crippling critic bullshit we've seen a million times before, where a guy like SK for example thinks he knows better than everyone else and is upset someone else is getting attention and money instead of him getting to write and direct his own Spider-man series or something. Its Movie-bob armchair general thinking. If you can change the industry go do it, but you won't so keep bitching online! maybe you can make a few adbucks off it, sell some merch. Many such cases.

Should he not have a youtube channel where he can complain about what he doesn't like, promote his books, and shoot the shit with disaffected people?
I mean say what you want about grifters or whatever but as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing out of the ordinary here when it comes to fucking media reviews.
If everything is shit anyway why the fuck are you still watching at all? Who gives a fuck what anyone says about this crap if it all sucks and is gay jew bullshit anyway?
Normies will never care about your problems. They don't give a fuck that this character from the Ennis book is supposed to not say anything.

Do you see how retarded it is to get precious about shit everyone calls grifting, when modern mass media is just grifting nostalgia and trends in the first place with all this remake bullshit? You mentioned Velma, and its a complete shit show from every angle. Are you really going to say to someone who talks about current day media should not talk about something that is new, current, and trending out of a sense of principle? Like they should be talking about how great Eggers is as a director instead of if Avatar is going to make 2billion or whatever. You gotta face the fact that the general audience will mog the niche audience constantly, and that no one gives a fuck about arthouse niche films except people who care about such things.

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Here's a great example. Mauler's audience doesn't give a fuck about him praising a character study starring Anthony Hopkins, they want to see him rip into Justice League.
So hes a moron for leaning into what his audience is interested in?

I don't watch any new shit anymore, so I don't give two fucks about your conversation about the "culture war" to be quite honest.
As far as I'm concerned this whole hollywood thing could end tomorrow and I'd be fine with it. But it won't because someone is going to be a lazy fuck and turn on the TV.

If someone wants to go out there and "work to change the industry, and get more people to watch unknown and niche media" thats great, but it won't ever get the amount of attention that something popular will, and thats fine.
But you would be a fucking moron to not use what is in front of you to make the situation better for yourself, and what you care about.
And ironically, Drinker is actually engaging with industry professionals. Perhaps your whole attitude is too caustic where his is amenable enough to get access to talent.

For example here. Being able to talk to professionals is breaking out of the internet space into the professional space. It's why I like Gamersnexus for example.
No one out there in the film world is going to want to talk to you. Try it though, see what happens.

He's very clear about what he's there for, and I wonder what you think has changed aside from making a living off of this stuff.
I think you're being uncharitable and dishonest about Drinker, and I don't even really watch his stuff unless there's a specific reason to.
If you think hes not a good enough critic, you should do better yourself instead of making digimon shit.

No, I'm actually making the point that Drinker doesn't even know what "woke" actually is. He just fools people like you into accepting his tripe because he uses the word and says things that make you feel fuzzy inside.

You think there's nothing out of the ordinary when it comes to media reviews? Are you serious? Are you even aware of the fact that Rotten Tomatoes had to completely restructure how people used their website when Captain Marvel came out? :lol:

Everything is decidedly remains in the shitter because people like you try to defend the shit without taking a moment to think for yourselves.

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Drinker is product. Just consume it and return next week for next product. That's how this works. Drinker is just a mirror for the people he hates. I think there's some kind of psychological mumbo-jumbo associated with that, but I'm not pretentious enough to think of what the terminology is.

You're asking "who gives a fuck." Clearly you do. That's why you're watching this shit. You care. That's fine. Caring is fine. Stop making it out to be like this is pure escapism all the time. This stuff has value beyond escapism. My own channel is devoted to the art beyond escapism. These threads for these particular channels wouldn't even exist if nobody cared so it's nonsense to even think nobody gives a fuck.

Stop being concerned with what the "normies" think. If you're taking time out of your day to talk with me about "normies" then you're clearly not a normie and so should either bounce or accept that you're anything but a "normie." I mean, you're perceptive enough to see how modern media is grifting nostalgia and you don't immediately see how folks and YouTube are just following through? The reason they're all grifting each other is because this stuff is clearly selling, it clearly has a hold on the hearts and minds of the modern consumer.

...but that's really not how it should be. The modern consumer ought to ask questions and stop getting hyped for next product and realize there's something wrong going on. There's something off.

I mentioned Velma because the entire enterprise is one of preaching to the choir. It's like if someone kicked you in the balls and a friend says, "Man, getting kicked in the balls really hurts, don't it?" Does the question make you think? Does it make you ponder anything beyond the pain you're feeling? For me, it's like driving up I-95 and running into traffic because some accident occurred off the side of the road. The traffic isn't due the accident, but people watching the accident. People wanna be nosey. They want a story to tell their folks back at home while I just wanted to get to my destination on time.

The whole Velma thing is interesting because it shows just how easily the current "anti-woke" crowd is being lead. Like Orwell's 2-minutes hate, it's just something to occupy a few minutes of your time patting yourself on the back for being who you are. You're not like those other people out there who tweet about how much they love this woke faggotry all the time. In the meantime, even the progressive folks don't really care about Velma and they're having a laugh at how how desperate folks like Drinker are for touting it as an example of Left-wing media while stuff like God of War: Ragnorok completely bypasses Drinker's radar.

To the question of talking about what is or isn't current, who exactly dictates that? I'm not certain what you're on about--you make the who matter out to be like nobody is really in control except for the mainstream. Like, do you think you need to follow trends just because they're trends? Are you justifying the fact that you need to consume product because you're treading water if that's not the case? How desperate are you to be controlled by the mainstream? You say "general audiences" but you have no idea who those people are. You're just restating something you've probably heard or read just to make yourself feel smart for saying it. But I doubt you've actually looked at the demographics about who does or doesn't make up the majority of modern media consumers.

(Hint: the number is far more massive than some silly YouTuber's subscriber numbers)

This comparison to Mauler is idiotic because you're basically admitting that what Mauler and EFAP have promoted is a lie. You're basically saying people follow him for a specific reason which is decidedly not how they have promoted themselves nor how their followers promote them. It's no different than calling a Prostitute a "Sex Worker" because you want to remove the negative connotations from "Prostitute"

You say you don't give a fuck about the "culture war" yet you're following people whose platforms have been formulated based on their own anti-woke sentiments or the semblance of such. You don't give a fuck about the "culture war" even though the people you follow are constantly harping about a strange change in modern media over the past few decades. That's like saying you don't give care about what you eat on a regular basis as you watch your weight.

No, Drinker is not "engaging" industry professional in that interview you posted. What you should have noted off the bat was that the "interview" is only 4 minutes long. Next, everything Drinker says in that interview is decidedly not how he approaches film criticism. He offers zero of that same generosity to the makers of so many folks he has criticized and he even admits that in the interview. Like, gawd almighty, did you even watch this stuff before you posted it or did you just look at the titles?

Drinker stands to gain nor lose anything for having that interview. Hell, some folks might actually state their irritation at how lavish Drinker's home is seeing how all the money has gone to making himself nice and comfortable while the rest of the world continues to wallow in the woke culture he pretends to fight online. But, nah, wokeness is just some imaginary thing we "don't give a fuck about" because it's some "culture war" thing that doesn't concern us. Right? 😜

You're being entirely surface-level with all your arguments. Just like Drinker is with his content.

As for the final video, it's all words. "See how the YouTuber states things at face value! So just take them at face value because that's all there is to it."

No, I'll continue to ask questions and judge according to what I see, not how the YouTuber prefers to have himself seen by his viewers. Thanks!
 
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Drinker is one of these guys who won't even be remotely cognizant of the fact that all the social commentary made by The Boys is tailored specifically to fall in line with the mainstream perceptions about celebrities, politicians, and oligarchs alike. Because woke Lefties, while exceedingly blind to their own vanities, will still see The Boys illustrations as being indicative not of the mainstream Left, but of the Right. Supes as a proxy for police violence, the government being behind the crack epidemic, all men being pigs, etc.
While this is completely true, I don't see why the schizo leftie perspective is so important. To most people watching, the celebrity backstabbing in The Boys is a vicious satire of Hollywood in the wake of #MeToo. The showrunner is simply writing what he knows.

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The best example of this is if you look at the "criticism" boys has for each side. The boys is praised by people who swallow the show's mask as the "centrist" show, that mocks both sides as if that's some kind of moral good. In truth this is a progressive/ dirtbag-left kind of show. The right wing is shown as dumb, weak, fat, ugly, irrational, scared ect... Meanwhile any "left wing" criticism people proport the show to have is actually criticism of corporations not doing weakness right, they mock and shit on corporations for doing wokness for profit rather than wokeness for ideological principles.

That way any bits of wokeness that might be unsavory to the viewer are projected onto corporate directors, politicians ect that just do it for the money according to the show, but the core ideas are of progressive shit are exonerated. Any semblance of a right wing worldview is of course mocked and portrayed as dangerous.

All of that aside the show is such a pain in the ass to watch because so much of the cast is incredibly annoying.
Yes, this is abundantly clear in seasons 2 & 3, but season 1, which received the Drinker's official stamp of approval, is focused on a thinly-veiled portrayal of a ruthless talent agency. Starlight's central conflict is a coverup of her rape by said agency, Hughie's is trying to get revenge for an Ezra Miller-esque hit and run (also covered up), and Homelander, for all his Bushian bombast, is a villain because he's an amoral, hypersensitive narcissist who literally cannot live without popular adulation. In fact, the worst people in the season are caustic portraits of modernist, materialist, Professional Managerial Class liberals.

So Homelander ripped off the WTC 9/11 speech for a "terrorist attack" he committed himself. Ostensibly an attack on conservatives, but are we really going to take umbrage on behalf of ironclad conservative George W. Bush now? There was also that subplot with Starlight's televangelist ministry, but against the rest of the show it's pretty much background noise. I would also keep in mind that the comic also had a very edgy view of Christianity that basically sprung from the same backwater as New Atheism, which culminated in Homelander claiming the mantle of God as he dropped a family of rubes to their deaths.

As season 2 made phantom Nazis (Trump voters) the main villains, the Drinker's opinion also soured. (He hasn't made a video about season 3.) His review points out the show is heavily woke, preachy, and even criticizes the evangelical subplot from season 1. Sure, it doesn't point out that the show is another weapon in the war on American tradition by what are basically Jewish neuroses, but that's a bit of a high bar to clear isn't it? I really don't know what more you want from him vis-a-vis The Boys.

 
While this is completely true, I don't see why the schizo leftie perspective is so important. To most people watching, the celebrity backstabbing in The Boys is a vicious satire of Hollywood in the wake of #MeToo. The showrunner is simply writing what he knows.

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Because not everyone wears their beliefs on their shoulder. A shcizo leftie may try to promote his beliefs or perspectives, but sometimes the truth comes out. Like how James Cameron's Avatar relies on a White Savior narrative despite the fact that he tries desperately to promote the film as woke. If you're bringing up #MeToo, realize that #MeToo incidentally hurt both sides of the political spectrum. Again, justifying a centrist position on the narrative even though the real matter of focus should have been that the mobs on Twitter should not to be used a judge, jury, and executioner for misdeeds done by whomever.

The real narrative should have focused on the failures of both the justice system corporations constantly sweeping serious matters under the rug so as to make social media the only outlet for outcry. Instead, however, individual people were made to pay for their crimes because they fell under a hashtag while those who enabled them just walk free.\

As season 2 made phantom Nazis (Trump voters) the main villains, the Drinker's opinion also soured.

But the overall point to be made is people who were actually invested in the source material knew the entire thing was woke to begin with. Those people who actually did their due diligence and read the comics didn't need Seasons 2 and beyond to realize this. You can argue source material versus Amazon's show all you want, but if you concede that Drinker didn't look at the source material, then that means he doesn't care about the original arists who made the story in the first place. All he cares about is the corporate hacks who changed the story to make a TV show. That's still just bad criticism.

I can forgive this if it was just me and some friend of mine with a passing interest, but Drinker wants to pass himself off as someone who does his due diligence in showing love and dedication to a craft. If so, he should at the very least respect the authors of an original work to see what they created before it was dismantled by corporate media.
 
Speaking of Drinker, I noticed in his profile pic, he is seen drinking a bottle of Jack Daniel's. He is very pointedly aiming the label at the camera so the viewer has a clear view of the label.

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Just some general thoughts about this.
First, does Brown-Forman know or care about this?
Second, why is a 39-year-old Scotsman boasting he drinks a watered-down 40% American non-Bourbon whiskey when the finest whiskies are being regularly produced in his country of origin?
The guy's entire schtick is that he's getting drunk while reviewing cinema, but even his brand choice of drink is mid-shelf mediocrity.
Late to this, but a bottle of JD is universally recognisable, even in icon form. You can't do that with 21 year old Glenfiddich. A bottle of Smirnoff might work up to a point I guess, but at some point it's just a bottle: JD has a square bottle, and you need to pixilate the fuck out of that before it stops looking like a bottle of JD.

Drinker is a reasonably successful author. Regardless of my thoughts on him hanging around with mauler, he knows how to frame a character.
 
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