Diseased Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.

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in other words your statement implying they told minors to fuck off is not only wrong, but extremely so

They were encouraged as staff

I thought you said you were leaving the bully forum 5ever because we wanted children strung up in the streets or whatever?

 

[porch_day]

I thought you said you were leaving the bully forum 5ever because we wanted children strung up in the streets or whatever?

the Light Upon Light topic a few posts above is too interesting to ignore

if someone mentions that I magically reappear

Homeland Security Today actually had the SS co-founder Diego as a writer, due to ICSVE. they deleted his article credits though after both ICSVE and HSToday got heat for that.

Alexander Ash, Author at Hstoday

Alexander Ash is the administrator of http://incels.co, currently the biggest incel forum on the web. The forum has remained controversial throughout the years, and it has increasingly become the focus of research by academia as interest in the community intensifies. Ash has retained a scholarly...

www.hstoday.us

Also Light Upon Light was parading Diego around as a suicide interventionist on the incel board WHILE he was facilitating a massive suicide pact thread on SanctionedSuicide.

 

[F13 Key]

the Light Upon Light topic a few posts above is too interesting to ignore

if someone mentions that I magically reappear

Even Purple Tinker can manage to stay gone from what makes him go into autistic rages longer than you. Christ.

 

[porch_day]

Even Purple Tinker can manage to stay gone from what makes him go into autistic rages longer than you. Christ.

I mean if you want a massive thread where you all lie about SS due to bogus fears about muh section 230 go ahead. But I was providing information for anyone who actually wanted to learn. Adios for actual now

 

[Markass the Worst]

I mean if you want a massive thread where you all lie about SS due to bogus fears about muh section 230 go ahead. But I was providing information for anyone who actually wanted to learn. Adios for actual now

Ok, I'll bite. However:

The first moderator Lamarcus and Diego put into place was Okami, an open, admitted, suicidal minor girl.

the Light Upon Light topic a few posts above is too interesting to ignore

if someone mentions that I magically reappear

Homeland Security Today actually had the SS co-founder Diego as a writer, due to ICSVE. they deleted his article credits though after both ICSVE and HSToday got heat for that.

Alexander Ash, Author at Hstoday

Alexander Ash is the administrator of http://incels.co, currently the biggest incel forum on the web. The forum has remained controversial throughout the years, and it has increasingly become the focus of research by academia as interest in the community intensifies. Ash has retained a scholarly...

www.hstoday.us

Also Light Upon Light was parading Diego around as a suicide interventionist on the incel board WHILE he was facilitating a massive suicide pact thread on SanctionedSuicide.

Do you have any links, archives etc. proving any of this? To me it seems like people are only saying Alexander Ash = Diego Galante because they're both described as co-administrators of incels.is. I also can't find much about Light Upon Light with a couple searches online, are they a research organization of some sort? And therefore I can't find much about them being funded by DHS either.

It'd also be great if you can provide links/archives of the Okami stuff but I understand if you can't right now due to the site being private.

Edit: Well I found a critic blog and another critical piece. Not sure what to make of it. They don't seem to mention Alexander Ash.

Edit: see below

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

Homeland Security Today actually had the SS co-founder Diego as a writer, due to ICSVE. they deleted his article credits though after both ICSVE and HSToday got heat for that.
https://www.hstoday.us/author/aash/

And are these articles he's written mysteriously gone, like the archived "minor debate" you mentioned, before editing it out of your post? The page you linked has a link to an article giving a summary of the research paper I already linked to, with the lead author being Anne Speckhard. The page gives the same author bio as in that research paper for him. It seems pretty obvious why he's listed as an author on the site, but with no articles: he's a co-author on a paper, but didn't write any articles. Co-authors like Molly Ellenberg have the same thing. I have no idea how you think "parading him around" would be getting them a bunch of DHS grant money (especially since Homeland Security Today isn't the DHS), but I have a suspicion you and Adenekan aren't exactly writing grant proposals from your tenured professorship gig.
Also, you're still a double-posting niggerfaggot. See how I managed to fit that into the same post?

 

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bogus fears about muh section 230

Do you think that modifying Section 230 to make webhosts responsible for their users' posts is a good idea? If you don't, please elaborate on what you're actually proposing be done to Section 230.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Well it looks like this page names Alexander Ash as Serge. So much for opsec.

 

[porch_day]

And are these articles he's written mysteriously gone, like the archived "minor debate" you mentioned, before editing it out of your post? The page you linked has a link to an article giving a summary of the research paper I already linked to, with the lead author being Anne Speckhard. The page gives the same author bio as in that research paper for him. It seems pretty obvious why he's listed as an author on the site, but with no articles: he's a co-author on a paper, but didn't write any articles. Co-authors like Molly Ellenberg have the same thing. I have no idea how you think "parading him around" would be getting them a bunch of DHS grant money (especially since Homeland Security Today isn't the DHS), but I have a suspicion you and Adenekan aren't exactly writing grant proposals from your tenured professorship gig.
Also, you're still a double-posting niggerfaggot. See how I managed to fit that into the same post?

you are arguing for the sake of arguing because you think I care about section 230, i don't

I said they removed his article credits

they removed his article credits, see

https://archive.is/Hm8Sa (2 articles published)
https://archive.is/wwsrd (0 articles published)

Well it looks like this page names Alexander Ash as Serge. So much for opsec.

So if you can find this stuff why should I do the work for you

Yes there are archives for everything I said. I'm not spending hours to do what everyone should already have been doing if they wanted an honest thread on the topic

 

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you think I care about section 230, i don't

So to confirm, you aren't in favor of modifying Section 230 to make webhosts legally responsible for their users' posts?

So if you can find this stuff why should I do the work for you

Yes there are archives for everything I said. I'm not spending hours to do what everyone should already have been doing if they wanted an honest thread on the topic

Yeah you're right it's so annoying when people ask you to back up your beliefs with facts.

 

[porch_day]

So to confirm, you aren't in favor of modifying Section 230 to make webhosts legally responsible for their users' posts?


Yeah you're right it's so annoying when people ask you to back up your beliefs with facts.

someone asked about the hstoday archives and I just provided them

bye you're all being extremely lazy, scrambling my email

 

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someone asked about the hstoday archives and I just provided them

bye you're all being extremely lazy, scrambling my email

See you in ten minutes!

 

[Markass the Worst]

So if you can find this stuff why should I do the work for you

Yes there are archives for everything I said. I'm not spending hours to do what everyone should already have been doing if they wanted an honest thread on the topic

someone asked about the hstoday archives and I just provided them

bye you're all being extremely lazy, scrambling my email

Nigger I'm not the one asserting things without proof. The burden of proof always rests upon the person making the accusation. If I said "X is a pedophile" on here and provided no archives, links, not even a screenshot I would be crucified immediately and called a faggot. Even if I was right.

For the OP I spent hours upon hours finding and digging through archives to back up every single word so fuck off with that "extremely lazy" bullshit. I'm not here to make your argument for you and I only decided to do a little digging because I was bored. I don't even know where to start with the Okami shit because I only learned about this site a few days ago and quickly got up to speed on everything, I don't have the knowledge of every single detail about the site. And browsing through archives is extremely hard if the Wayback Machine blacklisted the site.

Whether or not you're right about anything you said, you are an extremely retarded nigger. We'll eventually find the proof but don't be fucking surprised if we don't believe you at first if you don't provide any.

 

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Nigger I'm not the one asserting things without proof. The burden of proof always rests upon the person making the accusation. If I said "X is a pedophile" on here and provided no archives, links, not even a screenshot I would be crucified immediately and called a faggot. Even if I was right.

For the OP I spent hours upon hours finding and digging through archives to back up every single word so fuck off with that "extremely lazy" bullshit. I'm not here to make your argument for you and I only decided to do a little digging because I was bored. I don't even know where to start with the Okami shit because I only learned about this site a few days ago and quickly got up to speed on everything, I don't have the knowledge of every single detail about the site. And browsing through archives is extremely hard if the Wayback Machine blacklisted the site.

Whether or not you're right about anything you said, you are an extremely retarded nigger. We'll eventually find the proof but don't be fucking surprised if we don't believe you at first if you don't provide any.

>expecting a menopausal woman infected by Internet slacktivism to be rational
NGMI

 

[Chandelier]

Not saying this argument has any merit, but one manga has a premise of MC killing himself and going to Hell. Demon girl explains that suicide is sin, grievous enough to send you to hell, because you are "killing the potential future versions of yourself who want to live."

This subject has actually interested me. Unless you specifically kill yourself for God, via Holy War or some other grand crusade, you will either go to Purgatory or Hell. There are scholars who argue Purgatory is worse than Hell, because there's nothing but a vast emptiness there. I recall a story about a Frenchman or some other who in the 18th century had hung himself in his own home. His family had to say he died of natural causes or else he would've never been buried.

Islam is ironically a little more lax on this. It doesn't approve of it, but do it for Allah and you shall be gifted access to Heaven (and your mandatory 72 virgins). But not for women though.

There's a book called "Night Falls Fast", and it details historical and modern aspects of suicide. I have yet to read it, but subjects like that do interest me. I've had family members attempt it, and an accidental, near fatal overdose from a heroin injection. The guy still had the scar.

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

you are arguing for the sake of arguing because you think I care about section 230, i don't

I said they removed his article credits

they removed his article credits, see

https://archive.md/Hm8Sa (2 articles published)
https://archive.md/wwsrd (0 articles published)

I'm arguing because your contributions have been coming into the thread, making numerous scattershot claims without any clear information or evidence, shitting up the place, and then acting as a moral superior with numerous "I'm leaving!" attempts. If you had come in and laid out information in a direct and simple way, you wouldn't be getting (rightfully) antagonized.
I haven't said anything about 230. You probably care more about it than I do, considering your posts feel like they're right out of the Fixthe26 stream of consciousness ("They're trying to kill kids!!! Y'ALL EVIL!!!").

From your first post on KF, it seems like you've only come to this site to alog some incel forum owner, and then started b'awwing because KF didn't unanimously agree to be a personal army against that dang, dirty Sanctioned Suicide. If you want to actually "expose" this guy, or whatever gay little crusade you're on, then stop spastically making two or three posts at once in a race to respond and then spending the next twenty minutes editing them. Make a single post with all the information you have, with whatever archives you have available, and lay it out.

Or you can just keep acting like this is an airport terminal and announcing your departure, just to come back and sperg ten minutes later. I know some people were thinking this thread wouldn't exactly be funny material, but having a dedicated retard might be good for a laugh.

 

[That's the Spirit]

I remember there being a subreddit called /r/SanctionedSuicide that I ran into a few years back, it was pretty much the same as this website before it got banned. I think the forum started on a subreddit before being forced to migrate after getting banned, but even if that's not the case it's still worth mentioning in the OP imo

Yeah, this Vocativ article corroborates some of that and I remember it being mentioned on SS itself. It'll be hard to find the posts now that the site is private however.

I was a lurker on the subreddit in 2016. It was banned around the donald trump sub and others were. CTB, N - I recall that lingo. I remember posts where you would see people sharing about their lives going down hills then a final post and that was it. Nothing further from the account.

I saw this thread and wanted to share some thoughts and resources. I have struggled with suicide for more than half my life and known a lot of people who have struggled similarly. You can't make someone want to live or choose life. That is a choice they, and they alone make. You can't love them better. You are the only thing you can control and to some, death is the ultimately demonstration of their control, their ability to demonstrate they have bodily autonomy. Some run out of the ability to deal and cope with the stress of life. I do not blame those people. I know what it is like to be overwhelmed and unable to manage the weight of the responsibilties needed to go on. Completely fatigued but the burden and pressures never ceasing. I realised no one was coming to save me so I had to do it for myself. I think life is meaningless but individually we derive our own meaning from life. Find your anchor. Find what gives you meaning. I wish you all the best.

Lost All Hope - information on suicide.
Viktor E Frankl's book The Man's Search for Meaning
"He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how." - Friedrich Nietzsche

 

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lamarcus was providing seller info of bizarre suicide agents so that people could end their lives, on a site specifically dedicated to extralegal suicide facilitation. his and diego's actions have been tied to over 500 individually confirmed deaths. I don't think suicide facilitation is a matter of free speech but hey you do you

You seem to be making lots of claims without proof. We never provided such information to anyone.

As they say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and you seem to have no proof on these claims.

The 500 deaths thing is from the NYT article and that is something that was calculated by counting goodbye threads and that number hasn't been independently confirmed. It was just a "just trust me bro" number from the NYT.

Oh, and for those wondering, @porch_day is only here to a-log me so I will be mostly ignoring them for here on out. I'm pretty sure I know who it is as they have been the only one obsessively collecting information on me for a couple of years to "prove" that I did some heinous crime. Also, it's a he and I do know their identity (it's public) and they have multiple accounts on multiple platforms. I don't have much proof to show, as they continuously cover up their tracks and I haven't really cared much up to this point, but I just wanted to let you all know that they're just here to a-log me and almost everything they post is going to be for that purpose. He also has ties to FixThe26, which is an anti-SS group that have pretty much done the same.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Some run out of the ability to deal and cope with the stress of life.

Even animals self harm and kill themselves under stress conditions in captivity. A lion might bite his own arm off and bleed out if his state is desperate enough and this are supposed to be creatures of pure instinct.

Addressing why is more common that people want to MAID themselves should be a more important concern than censoring discussion about it but its get a lot more nuanced and controversial, is also very damning for the status quo, insert the obligatory full of shit Bill Gates Foundation charts showing everything is better than ever and everyon lives happily ever after thanks to globohomo. Surely if current year is so amazing anyone feeling miserable enough to consider dying in this brave new world must be a bratty kid that does not know how good they have it.

 

[Womble of Wimbledon]

Amazing OP. Never heard of this but it reminds me of drugs forum dot com which I used to lurk on. Discussing illegal and harmful behaviours but being very careful about explicitly advocating for anything illegal. My feelings are the same about SS as they were about drugs forum; if people are going to hurt themselves, harm reduction is the best policy. The only better option is actually getting to the root issue which drives people to self-harm, which is beyond the capability of an online community. Of course SS could lead to suicidal people committing, but hey, they were already suicidal. Parents of suicide kids are always the same, looking for anything/one to blame but themselves, which is understandable.

And yes, if you believe SS should survive, then so should tranny advocacy sites and DIY-HRT manuals and everything else you hate. Free speech includes things you hate, everything right up to the line of a criminal act being committed. SS obviously knows how to ride that line and so do most online troons, however immoral their conduct may be, it is rarely criminal.