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[Cthulu]

Why are you trying to downplay and deny the existence of the greatest thing the White Race has ever managed to do?

I think he's a secret Zionist conspirator. He is obviously trying to discredit the true Aryan race.

 

[Mikemikev]

The sum of missing people, the probable outcome of these death camps and the remainder of the 100 000 documents, pictures and videos collated for nuremberg. Correlated with the testimonies of the guards and survivors.

The end of WW2 europe had 6 million fewer jews, deathcamps with the means for mass execution, hundreds of witnesses to an organised effort to exterminate undesirables and roughly 100 000 documents detailing how they did it.

what do you think happened? The russians?

Most of the Polish Jews were evacuated prior to Barbarossa. That's a couple of million. There are American reports of them flooding back in too. I'm sure your 6 million discrepancy is made up too.

 

[Lorento]

Most of the Polish Jews were evacuated prior to Barbarossa. That's a couple of million. There are American reports of them flooding back in too. I'm sure your 6 million discrepancy is made up too.

Proof. You have been given letters proving the murder of Jews at the hands of the fascists. Where is your proof of this mass evacuation.

 

[Mikemikev]

Proof. You have been given letters proving the murder of Jews at the hands of the fascists. Where is your proof of this mass evacuation.

LOL @ "You have been given letters proving the murder of Jews at the hands of the fascists."

 

[Vitriol]

Here is another, this time talking about setting up camps for working the jews to death and exterminating them that way rather than via public shooting as at vilna:

The summary:
http://nuremberg.law.harvard.edu/ph...ties+and+work+camps+for+Jews.&color_setting=C

Spoiler

the english:
http://nuremberg.law.harvard.edu/ph...tion+of+the+Jewish+Question..&color_setting=C

The german:
http://nuremberg.law.harvard.edu/ph...tr.:+Loesung+der+Judenfrage..&color_setting=C

Most of the Polish Jews were evacuated prior to Barbarossa. That's a couple of million. There are American reports of them flooding back in too. I'm sure your 6 million discrepancy is made up too.

have you any evidence for that at all? Bearing in mind the above letters show that they had to build more facilities to kill all the jews they wanted to.

 

[Cthulu]

LOL @ "You have been given letters proving the murder of Jews at the hands of the fascists."

Dated 1946 moron. When did the war end?

 

[Wildchild]

Honestly, it doesn't matter if the Holocaust didn't happen or all the SS officers were tortured, or all the evidence was faked, it doesn't matter.

The point is that from modern historical thought the Holocaust happened and sure, evidence may be discovered in the future that disproves it and proves everything was faked, I highly doubt it, but until that evidence is discovered dismissing all current evidence as fake is ignorant and counter productive to everything.

 

[Lorento]

LOL @ "You have been given letters proving the murder of Jews at the hands of the fascists."

Tut Tut. Nowhere in this article does it say that these Jews escaped from the Nazis. Please note the 'Many are coming from Russia' line. After the war, there were actual purges of Jews by Stalin who saw them as cosmopolitan and a threat to communism.

 

[Mikemikev]

Walter N. Sanning to John Bennett, 8 March 1984:

Dear Mr. Bennett,

A few days ago I received a copy of Dr. Rubinstein's letter to you criticizing The Dissolution as a book "permeated by willful sleight-of-hand and distortion" and "as historically worthless" at the same time charging me with "neo-Nazism" and "anti-Semitism." Possibly, one must expect this kind of denunciation if one presents facts contrary to the views of the established power structure and its most influential special interest group.

I assume that Dr. Rubinstein knows the difference between "emigration" and "immigration." He refers to "the extreme difficulties faced by wealthy and educated German Jews in emigrating between 1933 and 1939..." However, the difficulty was on the immigration side as a number of Western countries did not welcome Jewish immigration. Dr. Rubinstein knows this and I suppose that is what he meant, but he creates the wrong impression that Germany prevented them from leaving the country.

Not in a single instance does Dr. Rubinstein try to disprove or refute the conclusions, facts or evidence contained in The Dissolution. He calls the figure of only 2.6 million Polish Jews in 1939 "demographically quite incredible, apart from the fact that it is not based upon adequate sources." He goes on: "There is not the slightest evidence of any such widescale emigration and one might ask: where did these Jews emigrate to?"

Is he joking? Either he overlooked or he chose to overlook the evidence I presented for such widescale emigration. Examples: (a) the testimony of U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Breckinridge Long before a congressional committee to the effect that the U.S.A. admitted about 580,000 refugees until 1943 -- most of them Jews; (b) the large immigration in Palestine in the Thirties and early Forties (almost 300,000); (c) the huge Jewish population increases in Latin America (almost 200,000) and Western Europe until the war (over 100,000). It is precisely because I anticipated charges like those of Dr. Rubinstein that I based by analysis almost exclusively on Allied, Zionist and pro-Zionist West German sources. If he believes that the evidence given by the wartime U.S. Assistant Secretary of State, the Institute of Jewish Affairs, the American Jewish Year Book, official census publications or the pro-Zionist Institute for Contemporary History in Munich and other similar sources is inadequate, then he should explain what he considers adequate. In Germany at any rate, the Holocaust- enthralled courts have used the latter institute's testimony as prima facie evidence.

Dr. Rubinstein's question "where did these Jews emigrate to?" is brazen indeed. The Dissolution has been very specific on this (Chapter Seven) and I can only take this remark as another example of a thoroughly dishonest approach.

His assertion that "there is not one shred of compelling evidence [that] very substantial numbers of Polish Jews were moved to the eastern parts of the Soviet Union in 1939" is absolutely correct. Trouble is, I never claimed that: I referred to the year 1940. The evidence presented (Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, Institute of Jewish Affairs, Gerald Reitlinger, American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, Encyclopaedia Judaica, David Bergelson, American Jewish Year Book, Herschel Weinrauch, Rabbi Aaron Pechenick, Shachne Epstein, Committee for Jewish Refugees from Concentration Camps, etc.) is overwhelming. Dr. Rubinstein neither refers to this evidence nor does he explain why it should not be accepted; he chooses simply to deny its existence. But then, I can't blame him considering how easy it is to be charged with "anti-Semitism" these days.

I am afraid that I also have to dampen somewhat his obvious delight in having found what he believes are contradictions between Prof. Butz's work and mine.

However, it is just not true that Prof. Butz "claims that no Hungarian Jews were deported," nor is it true that I stated that 100,000 or more were deported. What Prof. Butz said was that some deportations were going on between March and October 1944 and, again, that in October 1944 between 35,000 and 45,000 were actually deported to Germany for labor. My own reference to this episode was that the IRC report mentioned only 60,000 scheduled to be deported and that nowhere do we find any trace whatever that this number was exceeded or attained. I went on to say that "in this analysis we will assume that... the total number of deported Jews from Hungary reached 100,000 which is probably much too high" (p. 140). It is difficult to believe that Dr. Rubinstein's false charges are just the result of gross negligence.

Dr. Rubinstein's further claim of a contradiction between Prof. Butz and my work regarding the number of Jews in the United States is just as baseless. Prof. Butz stated "I really have no idea how many Jews there are in the U.S... As far as I know, the correct figure could easily be 9,000,000." In other words, Prof. Butz did not claim 9 million Jews for the U.S.A.; he merely stated a personal view while admitting that he does not know. Where is the contradiction?

There are more misrepresentations and false charges I could cite, but I think that the above is quite sufficient to show the total failure of this representative of "normal" history to fend off the blow whichThe Dissolution has delivered to some of the basic tenets of the Holocaust story.

If "incredible" and "inadequate" is all he can say to counter my arguments, his case must be weak indeed. If he feels that he can resort to crude falsehoods just to make up for non-existent differences between Prof. Butz and myself, can one believe that he would tell us the truth in as abstruse and lucrative an affair as the so-called Holocaust?

Dr. Rubinstein deplored the fact that I did not examine "the historical evidence for the Nazi Holocaust." Well, I haven't done so for good reason. First, there are plenty of excellent Revisionist works available examining "the historical evidence" (Butz, Faurisson, Rassinier, Stäglich) to name just a few, and, unfortunately for people like Dr. Rubinstein, they found this evidence wanting. Secondly, my objective was to examine the statistical demographic facts and the specific historical frame pertaining to just one aspect of recent Jewish History: The demographic development of eastern European Jewry.

I kept The Dissolution as free of emotion as possible and I hoped to contribute thereby to a genuine discussion of the premises underlying the genocide charge. It seems, though, that this is not possible. One should think that academics would owe it to their self-esteem to argue objectively and impassionately rather than to resort to slander, name-calling, misrepresentations and outright lies. Hopefully, Dr. Rubinstein is just an exception. His total disregard for the truth is further proof, if any was needed, of the Holocaust story's lack of substance.

My very best regards,
Walter N. Sanning

This details evacuation.

 

[Vitriol]

LOL @ "You have been given letters proving the murder of Jews at the hands of the fascists."

there were around http: 10 million jews before the war and around 3.5 after. //www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/09/europes-jewish-population/

even accounting for your number which claims there could be 3 million leaving russia and east europe in 46 that still leave a gap of 3.5 million.

I would also point out the NYT is speculating and projecting there. Bear in mind there are only 2million jews of european descent in israel today- their figure is clearly wrong.

 

[Mikemikev]

Honestly, it doesn't matter if the Holocaust didn't happen or all the SS officers were tortured, or all the evidence was faked, it doesn't matter.

The point is that from modern historical thought the Holocaust happened and sure, evidence may be discovered in the future that disproves it and proves everything was faked, I highly doubt it, but until that evidence is discovered dismissing all current evidence as fake is ignorant and counter productive to everything.

This is one of the most disturbing pieces of irrational stupidity I have ever read. The word "insanity" springs forcefully to mind.

 

[Cthulu]

The word "insanity" springs forcefully to mind.

Yes it does don't it. Every time you post.

 

[Wildchild]

This is one of the most disturbing pieces of irrational stupidity I have ever read. The word "insanity" springs forcefully to mind.

No. We have no evidence to deny the Holocaust, plenty of evidence to prove it occurred. It doesn't matter if the Holocaust didn't happen, until evidence comes along that proves or refutes current evidence then rationally you can't deny, not just some evidence, but all evidence.

 

[Mikemikev]

there were around http: 10 million jews before the war and around 3.5 after. //www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/09/europes-jewish-population/

And how is this calculated?

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Just to kind of duck in and point out the extermination camps were all in German occupied Poland prior to Barbarossa. Most concentration camps within Germany proper were largely for political dissidents and slave labour and then later Jews. The first such camp was in Chelmno, which was within the 'traditional' territory of East Prussia.

The Soviets were no fans of the Jews either, especially under Stalin and so many flooded into the West to avoid persecution by the Russians throughout 1946 and 1947.

This is often cited by Holocaust deniers as "proof" there were no extermination camps due to the fact that WESTERN european numbers of Jews were subsequently "boosted" by the exodus. The reality is the post-war era was one of basic chaos. We don't know precisely the numbers of people who moved and fled the soviets in the post-war era.

We do know it became so bad over the 13 years between the closing of the border in 1948 (and the subsequent airlift) and the building of the Berlin Wall in 1961 that the wall was absolutely necessary.

And how is this calculated?

Census Data.

 

[Mapache]

Winners don't spend their time posting on this forum of sociopathic lying cowardly garbage. You can pretend your word filter is the only reason if it makes you feel better. The real reason is that you're scum, and what's more really very boring. It's quite ironic. All of the posts here are just childish name calling. This is the kindergarten of the internet. Sad sad people.

So youre not a sociopath, eh? Well..
"Whats wrong with killing innocent children if it's for a good cause. And it is a little bit funny."
>asking a Jewish women if she would like to be gangraped.
>threatening to kill someone 3 times because you were banned from ED
>making sock puppet after sock puppet to harass people.
>hiding under multiple fake identities to lure people.
>starting multiple flame wars where ever you go.
>alienating the fringe amount of people as nasty and loser like as you are.
>sperging on Wikipedia to validate your ego.
>extremely hypocritical
>childish and immature
Do we think you're a sociopath, it's possible, but more than likely you're just autistic.

 

[Vitriol]

And how is this calculated?

the figure is taken from this work which goes into its methodology in some detail:
http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/details.cfm?PublicationID=17719.

 

[Mikemikev]

the figure is taken from this work which goes into its methodology in some detail:
http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/details.cfm?PublicationID=17719.

I get that. Presumably you haven't gone into its methodology in any detail, amirite?

 

[Vitriol]

I get that. Presumably you haven't gone into its methodology in any detail, amirite?

I have- it is collating census data from the early 1920s/30s and applying local birthrates for a 1939 figure. The census data is taken from earlier works as is the birth/death rates. she links to them in her sources.

That seems reasonable to me.

 

[GS 281]

I get that. Presumably you haven't gone into its methodology in any detail, amirite?

I think it would be interesting if you were to critique it, propose your own methods, and then propose what you feel is a more accurate number. You will most likely continue faffing off here accomplishing nothing, but I would love to see what you have to say on this.