Zoosadist Million Pity / Baby Monkey Hate / 0chan.life / Million Tears / EvilUnveiled / VidLii - YouTube Monkey Torture horrorshow, a horrible rabbit-hole of international zoosadism. Now featuring fresh milk from monkeyfuckers themselves!

No you guys don't get it, I was drawing monkey torture fanart to GET INTO THEIR SUPER-SECRET GROUP! So I could get their super-secret torture conten- I mean... to expose them all of course!

Sidney Tuttel, what I find gross and sad is that your sketches of infant monkeys being tortured are much better drawn than your usual art. It gives me the sense that you really love this shit, because every detail seems planned out, the stretched limbs, the fucked up faces, I dunno man. It doesn't make any sense at all that you would need to make fanart for this group for any reason other than you enjoyed it. Either way, whether for bad gayops or monkeyfuckery, get fucked retard.
 
No you guys don't get it, I was drawing monkey torture fanart to GET INTO THEIR SUPER-SECRET GROUP! So I could get their super-secret torture conten- I mean... to expose them all of course!

Sidney Tuttel, what I find gross and sad is that your sketches of infant monkeys being tortured are much better drawn than your usual art. It gives me the sense that you really love this shit, because every detail seems planned out, the stretched limbs, the fucked up faces, I dunno man. It doesn't make any sense at all that you would need to make fanart for this group for any reason other than you enjoyed it. Either way, whether for bad gayops or monkeyfuckery, get fucked retard.
This is just another parallel between monkey torture and child molestation. Every time someone gets busted putting their credit card info down on CP stings, the most popular excuse is that they're doing research. Pete Townsend of The Who got pinched for CP a while back and UK authorities ended up letting him go because of this excuse, but that's maybe the only time I can think of it working. I think he had a better shot than most as he was one of the biggest UK rock stars of all time and in a country where the authorities have a long history of looking the other way when celebrities and religious minorities rape children.
 
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Despite their survival of the fittest mentality, they don't accept exposure with grace and dignity, they fold and breakdown.

The Itch: Zoosadist Sexuality and Moral Relativism

Zoosadists are defensive creatures, they instinctively know they have things to hide, and will invoke anything at their disposal to justify what they do. If they cannot justify what they are doing, they will demand you alter your moral framework so as to no longer see things in objective terms.

There was a notorious child murderer in England called Ian Brady. You may have seen youtube documentaries about him. His crimes are considered some of the worst in human history, yet when viewed in relativistic terms, how zoosadists prefer to see things...he's not really that bad a guy.
Ian Brady wrote a book called Gates of Janus, and every time I see a zoosadist defend their inclinations and become angered at the majority of humanity, I'm reminded of the rheotoric employed by Brady in his true crime/philosophy book. It's a three layered approach;

Point to another bad thing, and accuse your critic of not caring about that thing.
Demand the critic only sees the crime from the moral framework of the criminal.
Project that the critic is actually the bad one, because by focusing on an individual zoosadist/child killer/rapist they are ignoring crimes that are even greater in relation to their own.

Ian Brady argued something along the lines of; politicians kill millions and nobody cares, if I wasn't born into a predatory, chaotic universe which compels us towards the survival of the fittest, or society catered for the way sadists are, we'd all be better off. The purpose of this is not necessarily to justify his own crimes, but to change the subject. When you call into question the moral standing of somebody who enjoys watching small animals being brutally tortured for prolonged periods of time, you can bet they'll want to talk about anything else. Monkey on monkey violence, how it isn't sexual, how they love cats, how 'Karens' aren't doing enough to stop CSAM, they have an abundance of talking points that are intended to make people who are appalled by them second guess themselves.

Even if just for a moment, a man who rapes and strangles children to death can plant in your mind that maybe you should hear him out, he's won a small victory. Zoosadists are no different. Their moral relativism is not intended to ease their own conscience, sadists are self preserving and lack empathy. Their moral relativism is meant to discourage people who want them exposed and held to account. It is a distraction, and a struggle to control how we perceive them.

The best response to the zoosadists moral relativism is an unwavering objectivism. Downloading, distributing, encouraging and seeking pleasure from the torture of animals is objectively wrong. We do not care about your Brady-esque Nietzchean mental gymnastics. We're not here to explore philosophy with you, or the equivalency of your crimes with others, we're here to tell your loved ones that you like to watch small animals being tortured and would escalate beyond this given the means. We know that people share videos of cartel killings on 4chan, as it stands murder is illegal and people better equipped than us are at least trying to respond to cartel violence. For now we are the only ones dealing this thoroughly with zoosadists. I wish that were not the case but it is.


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You're the weird one, Karen!

What is the itch? I have heard zoosadists describe the time they spend watching animals being tortured, or torturing animals as being like 'scratching an itch'. I've heard Yardfish talk about how zoosadist videos, especially involving baby monkeys, recreate scenes from hurtcore CSAM. Despite this, zoosadists are vehement about the 'itch' they experience not being sexual, it's a compulsion, it's the way they're wired, it's morally abhorrent...but it's not sexual. This is a point of obsession for zoosadists, especially zoosadists who torture monkeys. They're as obsessed with talking about how zoosadism is not sexual as they are baby monkeys being breastfed or wanting to be held.

We've all seen crime documentaries about sadists who can only achieve 'release' in the moment their victim is dying. I imagine the itch to be something like this, something that cannot be satisfied by mundane sexual means alone. Something that runs deep into their make-up, and whilst likely well hidden, should be a monumental red flag to anybody unfortunate enough to be around that person.

That being said, a zoosadist would rather debate the finer points of the origin of their compulsion than deal with its objectively loathsome nature head on. Imagine a flasher, who upon arrested for indecent exposure has a sob story about how his brain has an itch, he feels lonely and isolated and indecent exposure allows him to feel connected to people. He'd argue that people like him exist and he's just a product of nature, that he never meant any harm.
A zoosadist would no doubt have a similar story. You'll see a lot of 'were actually good people' kind of talk among sadists. That is until the itch kicks in, and you'll see something along the lines of the screenshot above. The reason I used the screenshot above is to place some context around the sadism that these zoosadists claim exists in a sort of void, without any further implications.

Infancy, the relationship between the mother and baby macaque, the human-like characteristics of a baby monkey, it's needs mirroring those of a human baby such as longing for physical contact and food...these things are sources of absolute obsession for these people. They fantasise about baby monkeys being weened, they get excited about the 'milk bar', anything that reminds them of the vulnerable, infant status of their target for sadism. This milk obsession runs from the youtube comments section boomers, to the murkiest zoosadism chat groups. They like to play on this child-theme by fantasising about feeding baby monkeys chilli sauce from milk bottles.

Another common theme is exploiting the infants vulnerability by showing it affection and winning its trust and then gradually becoming increasingly abusive. I'm reminded of Peter Scully, who in his description of his infamous CSAM content spoke of a childs 'mental ruin'. The Karenmafia crowd have transcended basic sadism into far more elaborate and nightmarish territories, that involve psychological as much as physical abuse.

It's not pedophilic, or sexual, or anything like that though...so this is OK, apparently

Then we see the zoosadist project characteristics onto the baby monkey. They love the idea of 'tantrums', the monkey needing 'discipline'. This would be bewildering had I not seen the whole daddyofive thing blow up. There is an audience for this kind of abuse, the daddyofive comments section was rife with similar language, and videos of kids getting 'disciplined' rack up serious views on youtube. The thing is, zoosadists are risk averse. I remember Tim Win freaking out when Snakething proposed targeting humans instead of dogs. The tone of his response was to ensure the authorities had nothing to hold against him if he did get outed. Zoosadists know there's a limit, they know they're skirting real close to it, and they'll make a point of announcing 'nothing to see here' at every opportunity.

For many zoosadists, videos of traumatised monkeys being thrown into cold water on youtube is likely enough to scratch the 'itch'. What would be heartbreaking to most humanity is a source of pleasure to them. They can express their discipline fantasies, their breastfeeding obsessions and that may be enough. But unlike videos of children being abused on youtube, there's scope to distribute far more heinous content for zoosadists. They escalate to mind bendingly horrific videos of torture, still in the context of the mother-child discipline fantasy realm they've carefully established in their minds.

If we were to concede it's not sexual in the hope they'll just shut their mouths, we'd have to maintain that what they do is deeply, deeply fucked up all the same. But yes, it is also sexually charged. The sadism alone may not be, however the extensive context so often involved in scratching the 'itch' is a giveaway that is deeply entrenched in this niche of zoosadism that all the denial in the world won't undo.

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I'm gonna wrap this up with another piece of braindead relativism; "rather than talking about what I'm doing wrong, can we talk about what somebody else is doing wrong."

In short, no, fuck you, you loathsome, nasty, mentally deranged piece of shit. I'll go and donate to a rooster charity, then I'll be back to keep tabs on you in the hope you'll do something retarded enough to be outed. And should it come to that, you can run your little rooster analogy by your loved ones. I'm sure they'll feel better about you watching severely abused baby monkeys being put through incomprehensible torment just so you can get off, oops, i mean 'scratch the itch' if you remind them people fight roosters.

And in conclusion; maintain an absolutlely objective stance if ever you are forced into interaction with these utter demons. They will want to talk about anything but what they do, they'll project, they'll distract, they'll name call, they are masters of whataboutism, because they know what they do is reprehsensible and evil to most of humanity. The only thing they can't do is a provide an objective defense for their heinous behavior. The sadist in them doesn't even feel it needs one.

A quick run through of zoosadist defences to expect when they feel challenged;

- you must secretly be a zoosadist too if you are challenging me.

- The fact you dislike animals being tortured is a problem. You’re the one with the issue.

- what about *insert any unrelated issue here*

- If you saw more videos of this animal you’d share my perversion

- Your obsession is unhealthy, unlike my compulsion towards torture.

-you think my collection of videos of baby monkeys dressed like toddlers getting tortured is weird? What a pervert.

- I’m somehow better than other zoosadists, you should get to know me.

- Somebody once wished violence on me. I’m going to pretend that person is you so you cannot criticise my sadism.

- The fact you dislike me enjoying animal torture indicates a lack of empathy on your part (a personal favorite).

-If you actually KNEW about us, you’d be cool with baby monkeys/dogs/cats/sheep/insert preference animal being brutally tortured to death


-I only watch B animal being tortured, you’d have to be a monster to do that to A animal.

-I’m just a regular guy, I only watch them being strangled/punched/starved. Gore is gross.

-I was introduced to zoosadism by an anti zoosadist youtuber, take my word for that.

-kiwifarms spammed us with CP. Take our word for it.

Defences for zoosadists who have been outed:

- you got the wrong guy I love animals
- I was undercover

I made a promise I wouldn't essay post or give these people any engagement again. I felt some of the things here were worth saying, I hope others feel the same way. From here onwards its back to business.
 
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Found a hive of them being advertised on /gif/

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Shits just sad man just leave em alone

I’d advise keeping posts like this private. See what the consensus is, but if it isn’t a confirmed dox or information zoosadists don’t want public I’d say private this stuff. Use tags or a group? Again, I’m not policing the thread, it’s just a gut feeling.

This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.
 
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Were there any truth to the whole ‘monkey hate’ lie, he’d be right, it would be irrational. They don’t hate monkeys though, nobody does. They love zoosadism and videos of macaques being shaved, dressed like toddlers and tortured. They’re not driven by a hatred of monkeys, they’re driven by a deeply unsettling perversion. If dogs and cats had facial expressions and could fulfill the urges these people have, they’d use them too. It just so happens that monkeys tick the box and there’s a supply for the demand.

‘I hate monkeys and can’t explain it.”

That’s because there is no explanation, because the ‘hate’ is part of the fetish. You demonize the thing to make torturing it more fun and easier to get off too. It’s context. Like plot lines in porn. They get warmed up with some deranged fantasy about monkeys throwing a tantrum and talking about breastfeeding or whatever, then they’re set to watch an animal getting brutalized by some Peter Scully type in Indonesia.

People have a ‘visceral’ revulsion towards snakes and spiders. Nobody is in chat groups, sharing pictures of these animals having sex, or sat around coming up with ways to to torture them. Other than zoosadists. People don’t like rats, nobody is getting frantically excited over videos of them being sodomised with nails. Other than zoosadists. This behavior is exclusive to zoosadists.

Monkey hate narratives, from the breastfeeding obsession to the discipline stuff, are all just aspects of a fantasy to make the animal torture itself more exciting. Making the monkey look more human, naming it, projecting human personalities on them, building circlejerk communities for it.

They don’t hate monkeys any more than Tim Win hates dogs, they love watching small animals being tortured. That’s their thing. That’s their defining characteristic. They’ll distract from this by talking about monkeys being an invasive pest, by claiming they’re acting out some genetic predisposition, factory farms yada yada. But the bottom line is they enjoy watching animals being tortured.
 
People have a ‘visceral’ revulsion towards snakes and spiders. Nobody is in chat groups, sharing pictures of these animals having sex, or sat around coming up with ways to to torture them. Other than zoosadists. People don’t like rats, nobody is getting frantically excited over videos of them being sodomised with nails. Other than zoosadists. This behavior is exclusive to zoosadists.
Unfortunately there are zoosadists targeting snakes/reptiles, and it's sadly considered a normal and perfectly acceptable thing in some places (like the southeast). Rattlesnake Roundups are literally animal torture/snuff marketed as family entertainment, and have contributed to extremely worrying population declines of many reptile species[/ot snake sperg]

That said, nail on the head about everything else. It's all sickos who get off on cruelty towards something smaller and weaker, and seeking easy targets. Wildlife in general often lacks real protection against cruelty, in most of the world unfortunately.
 
Unfortunately there are zoosadists targeting snakes/reptiles, and it's sadly considered a normal and perfectly acceptable thing in some places (like the southeast). Rattlesnake Roundups are literally animal torture/snuff marketed as family entertainment, and have contributed to extremely worrying population declines of many reptile species[/ot snake sperg]

That said, nail on the head about everything else. It's all sickos who get off on cruelty towards something smaller and weaker, and seeking easy targets. Wildlife in general often lacks real protection against cruelty, in most of the world unfortunately.
Yeah, I've heard of inflation freaks using snakes. It doesn't seem like a market that gets discussed too often.
 
They've been infesting /gif/ for a while now, and along with other zoosadism threads are probably one reason that board isn't being indexed on Desuarchive anymore. They rear their heads on /int/ and /an/ occasionally too.
i learned about 0chan and mr.ape through anons discussing his (at the time) very recent doxing and the fallout around it on /gif. /an/ was actually the first place outside of youtube i ever saw these 'people' discussing these videos and using the term 'million pity'; it was that moment when it really clicked for me that there was something a lot bigger here than just retards on youtube.
guess the creeps never can keep their mouths shut
 
The whole ‘only hate monkeys’ narrative falls apart the longer you watch these scumbags. Theres one I saw just talking about how he hopes to see Orangutans being abused in Cambodia, in cages or whatever. They’re far less optics conscious behind closed doors. The less risk averse will absolutely escalate, whether this will involve animals or humans is anybodies guess.

I think historically zoosadists understood they were universally reviled. So they hid accordingly. This rebranding effort is completely unprecedented and has only been made possible through social media and the perpetuation of certain myths ( in this case monkey hate). The plus side is they’ve centralised, which leaves room for infighting, zoosadists throwing each other under the bus, not to mention archiving has never been easier.

A good rule of thumb is to not trust a word that comes out of a zoosadists mouth. Judge them by their sick, evil fetish instead.
 
Theres one I saw just talking about how he hopes to see Orangutans being abused in Cambodia,
This thread was a hard read as is.
It's nice to have an answer to a long-standing mystery I've been curious about, even if the truth is worse than I ever thought it'd be.
But seeing these little fellas tortured with is bad enough, seeing an Orangutan being hurt in this way would probably be enough to get me to take a break from the internet for a week. All life is valuable, but Orangutans are they are, are endangered as is. This industry turning towards them and culling them would put one of the coolest guys in the jungle towards an even bleaker path.
"A century ago there were probably more than 230,000 orangutans in total, but the Bornean orangutan is now estimated at about 104,700 based on updated geographic range (Endangered) and the Sumatran about 7,500 (Critically Endangered)."
 
This thread was a hard read as is.
It's nice to have an answer to a long-standing mystery I've been curious about, even if the truth is worse than I ever thought it'd be.
But seeing these little fellas tortured with is bad enough, seeing an Orangutan being hurt in this way would probably be enough to get me to take a break from the internet for a week. All life is valuable, but Orangutans are they are, are endangered as is. This industry turning towards them and culling them would put one of the coolest guys in the jungle towards an even bleaker path.
"A century ago there were probably more than 230,000 orangutans in total, but the Bornean orangutan is now estimated at about 104,700 based on updated geographic range (Endangered) and the Sumatran about 7,500 (Critically Endangered)."
Fucking with orangutans is also massively illegal, on the International level. They're CITES Appendix I animals (all nonhuman great apes are), which is the highest level of protection in that treaty.

I've said it before but if any evidence turns up of abuse towards orangutans or any other critically endangered primate species, that shit needs to be reported to all relevant agencies immediately. That is some serious, serious wildlife crime on multiple levels (international and local).
 
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