Diseased Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.

[The Mist]

That was a fuck up on my part, not a image but a post where op says, which are archived. Which I would class as discouraging or least trying to get the person to second guess it.

But the more encouraging or least romanticizing suicide posts aren't hard to find. Here is one of the post from the op that would fit that bill of romanticizing suicide.

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God, FuneralCry's message feels like a fucking Reddit post. How much do you wanna bet that they would shit their pants if presented with the option to kill themselves? And how the hell do you make suicide feel pretentious as fuck?

How any of the site admins of SS can't see the clear farming for attention is beyond me.

 

[AnOminous]

Anti-SS'ers are already gloating about the site moving domains. Also a FuneralCry post (can't find the archive though).

It's funny how these goofballs gloat about utter inconsequentialities. Sites like these are the Wandering Jews of the Internet, like us. It's actually fairly rare for a site to cling tenaciously to a domain name like the Farms, and we've had more actual ISPs than most of these idiots have had hot meals.

God, FuneralCry's message feels like a fucking Reddit post. How much do you wanna bet that they would shit their pants if presented with the option to kill themselves? And how the hell do you make suicide feel pretentious as fuck?

Ask Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.

 

[Muttley]

I don't see how this is any different from a drug website that operates on the basis of harm reduction like erowid or pill reports.

while I don't think that you should kill yourself if you engage in suicidal ideation, as I think suicide is something that should be done on a pragmatic basis;
is it still not ultimately more harmful that people do these things without access to information?
don't get me wrong, just because you read the website doesn't mean you won't fuck up and end up a vegetable, but it certainly decreases the chances of that happening.

anything that facilitates people being more knowledgeable in their decision making and more capable in the execution of those decisions, is something I'm fine with, whether it's eating hallucinogenic drugs or committing suicide.

fuck cloudflare

 

[Haramburger]

I wouldn't want to see Cloudflare drop SS, but if nothing else it would finally prove Null's theory that it's complaint volume and add a ton of weight to all of his other arguments going forward, so there's that to look forward to maybe.

 

[Markass the Worst]

They now have a Tor link, suicidabvrputryeg3mxdwwtwnv3eqj2koztuaiko5zn5rzodtencnad.onion.


source (a)

Although I tried it and it doesn't seem to work.

 

[AnOminous]

I wouldn't want to see Cloudflare drop SS, but if nothing else it would finally prove Null's theory that it's complaint volume and add a ton of weight to all of his other arguments going forward, so there's that to look forward to maybe.

I'm an accelerationist on the Cloudflare issue. I'd like as many people as possible to know that all you have to do to get rid of any site protected by Clownflare is just get an army of retards to bitch at them incessantly.

As site after site goes down, people will realize this bullshit fraud of a company doesn't even provide any real service at all. They're just ripping off their customers. They promise DDoS protection. Until a bunch of whiners show up and scream and complain and then they get rid of you.

Or until they get a REAL DDoS to protect against.

The protection offered by this bogus service is a pure mirage. The more people "protected" by these losers who learn that the company does absolutely nothing of value, the better.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

You know who FC reminds me of? Those Evanescence listening, cutting for attention, emo girls from the 2000s. Not a lick of sincerity, all performance.

 

[Overpriced Gaming Chair]

Someone made 46-minute long review of the site.

After watching the first 9 minutes, it makes a compelling argument against the site. They apparently only added the "don't encourage anyone" -disclaimer after the site first started gaining mainstream media attention. It seems to be a paper thin mask against someone taking action against the site as it is being openly violated. Posts offering support and links to suicide prevention are regularly ridiculed, with the site's admin having "liked" one of these posts.

 

[afounder]

Someone made 46-minute long review of the site.

After watching the first 9 minutes, it makes a compelling argument against the site. They apparently only added the "don't encourage anyone" -disclaimer after the site first started gaining mainstream media attention. It seems to be a paper thin mask against someone taking action against the site as it is being openly violated. Posts offering support and links to suicide prevention are regularly ridiculed, with the site's admin having "liked" one of these posts.

This is actually false, and this is one of the biggest problems with the video: It is extremely biased. It is clear to see that encouragement was never allowed and that is something that was put in place almost at the very start of the forum. When I was there, we actively discouraged encouragement and that remains in place today.

The video doesn't really source or provide evidence for this from anywhere, but it is clear to see that Fixthe26 and Kelli was heavily involved in feeding Tentacrul outright fabrications and lies about the community. That's why it's such a mess.

 

[Nigor]

Someone made 46-minute long review of the site.

After watching the first 9 minutes, it makes a compelling argument against the site. They apparently only added the "don't encourage anyone" -disclaimer after the site first started gaining mainstream media attention. It seems to be a paper thin mask against someone taking action against the site as it is being openly violated. Posts offering support and links to suicide prevention are regularly ridiculed, with the site's admin having "liked" one of these posts.

Have you read the literal first post of this thread?

 

[Haramburger]

This is actually false, and this is one of the biggest problems with the video: It is extremely biased. It is clear to see that encouragement was never allowed and that is something that was put in place almost at the very start of the forum. When I was there, we actively discouraged encouragement and that remains in place today.

The video doesn't really source or provide evidence for this from anywhere, but it is clear to see that Fixthe26 and Kelli was heavily involved in feeding Tentacrul outright fabrications and lies about the community. That's why it's such a mess.

I can't remember the SS user or the exact wording, but one person had the best quote about deplatforming SanctionedSuicide: "The critics don't want to actually help suicidal people, they just want to take down the site so they don't have to see us hurting. If we're down, they can forget about feeling bad about us feeling worse."

The taker-downers don't give a fuck about actually helping people who feel like killing themselves, they just don't want to see it happening. There's no 'Step #2' if they succeed, no helping depressed people. They just don't want them congregating and talking to each other, and especially don't want to see the site covered in the media. Niggers.

 

[Overpriced Gaming Chair]

In my defense, I searched this thread for "toxic" and assumed the video would come up if it had been posted already. Apologies.

Well, I checked to be sure and it does give one result... the start of OP. Instead of arguing about that, I'll just admit I should've properly read the OP first before posting.

About what Haramburger said, I guess it's the same principle where cities try to force homeless people out with hostile architecture and criminalization because it's much easier than solving the actual problem of people not having places to live in.

 

[Markass the Worst]

This is actually false, and this is one of the biggest problems with the video: It is extremely biased. It is clear to see that encouragement was never allowed and that is something that was put in place almost at the very start of the forum. When I was there, we actively discouraged encouragement and that remains in place today.

The video doesn't really source or provide evidence for this from anywhere, but it is clear to see that Fixthe26 and Kelli was heavily involved in feeding Tentacrul outright fabrications and lies about the community. That's why it's such a mess.

I can corroborate this too. Here's the oldest known archive of the rules thread from 2020. There's no edit signature so the post has never been edited since 2018. And it still has the "Encourage any acts" blacklist under "Do Not".

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

If this cabal followed the advice of that forum, they could reunite with their loved ones in hell.

 

[Overpriced Gaming Chair]

Another critique was that I swallowed like a fool went something like this:

"Site requires you to be 18+ and the only verification website the requires is user checking a box that says they are over 18."

Isn't that how every single website does the age check?

Outside of paywalling the entire site so that you require a Credit Card number or something even more centralized, like government-issued digital ID, how are you supposed to enforce this?

 

[Markass the Worst]

Another critique was that I swallowed like a fool went something like this:

"Site requires you to be 18+ and the only verification website the requires is user checking a box that says they are over 18."

Isn't that how every single website does the age check?

Outside of paywalling the entire site so that you require a Credit Card number or something even more centralized, like government-issued digital ID, how are you supposed to enforce this?

Yes, age verification is impossible on the Internet without forcing people to dox themselves. The best you can do is assume they're not lying and ban people who say they're minors. He of course provides no instances where someone willingly revealed their age, because anyone who does is immediately banned. Which, as I've pointed out before, is far better than what Discord trannies do in grooming and abusing people they definitely know to be minors.

It's not like this is the crux of his argument anyway. In the thread he made advocating for changes he eventually said his arguments still applied even if SpentStardust was 19. And in the video he immediately falls back to an argument that registration doesn't matter because the site is public.

 

[afounder]

Another critique was that I swallowed like a fool went something like this:

"Site requires you to be 18+ and the only verification website the requires is user checking a box that says they are over 18."

Isn't that how every single website does the age check?

Outside of paywalling the entire site so that you require a Credit Card number or something even more centralized, like government-issued digital ID, how are you supposed to enforce this?

Yeah, it is.

It is the only reasonable way to do such a check without invading one's privacy. I believe I spoke to one of the parents one time about it and I brought up the cost of verifying IDs or credit cards, which is around $1 per verification at the time. I told them that it would be wholly unreasonable, for privacy and costs reasons, to impose such a verification system that is easy to circumvent anyways. They told me to just suck it up and pay the costs of the system. The exchange may still be up on the SS Twitter account if you look for it, but that was the gist of it.

It's hard to enforce and it is an unreasonable invasion of privacy. Third party or not, it would be a pain and it would be a nightmare in the case of a data breach to have your real identity associated to a online suicide discussion board.

 

[2 Faces 2 Colours]

I just perked up from bed to post this:
Look I don't know much about the YouTuber guy who made this video in the OP, but he has this in his description, take of this what you will.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

This thread reminded me of one of my favorite Futurama scenes.

 

[Echnaton]

On one hand, killing yourself is cringe. On the other hand, whatever enrages the geriatrics by merely existing is admirable.