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No guys, ADHD is totally terminal. You just get distracted from living.
Inactive Chelsea Lawrence / TanzChelsea - Munchie kicked out of two hospitals, home care and multiple treatment teams; Flagged and blacklisted by EPIC; Munched Herself to Death
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She's a miserable lying bitch. "I'll try to get them on camera" is crap. Someone with PERM has inducible myoclonus, that means all she needs to do is have someone aim a damn camera at her leg and have someone tap it with a reflex hammer (or honestly anything, practically anything with a little mass to it will trigger it). With something that is inducible, you don't have to try, you just have to fucking do it. Given how often this bitch is recording things on her phone, this is not a difficult thing to do.
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She made an interesting comment yesterday that she could not say the name of the new hospital for safety reasons. It has a very distinctive border though. Wonder how far they had to go to find a place to take her.
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In her last 3 videos, posted 1-14, 1-17, and the last one posted 4 days ago, she is wearing the same pajamas.
I bet she just took a bunch of videos and got kicked out.
edit: looking back a few videos it looks like she's had the same pajamas on since 1-8
I bet she just took a bunch of videos and got kicked out.
edit: looking back a few videos it looks like she's had the same pajamas on since 1-8
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She's going to have to start holding up the day's newspaper to prove the date of recording in response to accusations that she's prerecording her little videos. She would probably really like pretending to be a hostage, considering how much she likes pretending to be dying.
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Chelsea is too busy pretending to die to provide me adequate entertainment, so let's take a trip through her archive to see if we can pinpoint when she transitioned to special K.
In 2019, Chelsea was given ketamine, presumably for the first time. She hilariously admits that ketamine didn't work. At the time she was on high doses of opiates, which probably satiated her general need to be high.
Transcript: The seizures just kept rolling. Um they attempted to give me ketamine. That did not help the seizures whatsoever in fact it enhanced the seizures um and things just kept just kept going and going.
Although this video is from August 2020, she was recounting her journey on YouTube to get her viewers caught up. It's hard to tell the exact date of ketamine administration but, based on context, appears to be in 2019.
Later in 2019 while at her first nursing home, Chelsea says she was accused of being a drug addict. This was likely referencing her prescribed doses of opiates, not necessarily ketamine. She also named her teddy bear after ketamine and percocet which is... a choice.
Transcript: The pain was excruciating. Then one night the doctors decided um that I was a um a drug addict and they pulled every single one of my medications including the ones that were keeping convulsions and seizures and spasms and everything, just decided to pull everything. Narcotics, muscle spasms, and I've been on these meds for years. Just pulled them all at once which made everything absolutely worse because they thought that I had a problem, which we'll get to that story later on. And then then the doctor says why are you are you yawning a lot? I said yeah I'm yawning a lot, she goes that's a sign of drug addiction. Or maybe it's because I'm not sleeping because I'm in pain. And many doctors come in and accuse me of a lot of different things at this hospital.
Transcript: We had one of the pt people walk into my room with my teddy bear and go, "is this your friend? Is this your friend? What's your friend's name?" This is called infantilism, it's a form of ableism. She goes, "is this your friend? What's your friend's name?" I go, "that's my friend Purkette. It's named after my last surgery off of percocet and ketamine. What's your name?"
In April 2020, Chelsea claims to have gotten off opiates due to the stigma impacting her care. She's said that this took months, so it may be in response to the above. She brags a lot about how easy this was. She notes that she still has medications to control her pain.
Transcript: Okay so when all of this is going on I also discontinued taking all of my opiates because I wanted to get off them. There was a lot of stigma behind it but when this happened I noticed all of these symptoms started to pop up.
Transcript: I've worked really hard to get off all of my opiates. I've been on opiates for like most of my life and because of the stigma I was getting from doctors because of invisible illnesses and because of the eds and because of all of the somatic crap that they put on me last year I was like let me show you that I can manage all of this without opiates. And so I did it and I dropped my opiates that I had been on for over 15 years of my life and I've been on every opiate imaginable, pretty high doses. And I did it in under two months no withdrawals no problems no things and half these people were like, "you're gonna have detox you're gonna need a rehab you're gonna need-" like no my body doesn't have issues with it. Apologize you can hear my dog rolling around.
A few days later in April 2020, Chelsea complains that her doctor is trying to get her off of a mystery medication. In the comments she clarifies this medication is a sedative. I'm pretty sure this is ketamine.
June 2020 Chelsea has ketamine prescribed for home administration. She takes a few doses for an MRI, claiming it "numbs out" her central nervous system and "kills any stimulation coming in". It appears that her doctor failed in tapering her off ketamine.
In November 2020, Chelsea is asking her doctor for more pain meds. Because she has previously considered her sedative a pain med, I assume this is a request to increase ketamine.
Transcript: I tried to call my pain doctor today to let them know that I need more pain meds, which made me feel like a failure but it's really hard to admit that you need more pain meds, really hard to admit that reality.
February 2021, Chelsea implies she's had occurrences of nodding out on ketamine. In the clipped video she talks about her massive fatigue and inability to even open her eyes, but claims it wasn't due to pain medications. That reads, to me, there are times she can't open her eyes due to high doses of ketamine. Up to you if that's too much of a stretch.
Transcript: Lethargic, lethargic, fatigued and it's not like a fatigue like, "oh I'm tired." It's like a couple days ago I literally couldn't open my eyes and it wasn't do it due to a pain medication or any medication.
In late 2022, as we all know, Chelsea confirmed in an interview that she takes ketamine.
So my best bet is she was introduced to K in 2019 but didn't take to it. When she realized no one was taking her malingering seriously due to her opiate use, she detoxed. To fill the black hole in her addict heart, she warmed up to K and has been escalating ever since.
In 2019, Chelsea was given ketamine, presumably for the first time. She hilariously admits that ketamine didn't work. At the time she was on high doses of opiates, which probably satiated her general need to be high.
Transcript: The seizures just kept rolling. Um they attempted to give me ketamine. That did not help the seizures whatsoever in fact it enhanced the seizures um and things just kept just kept going and going.
Although this video is from August 2020, she was recounting her journey on YouTube to get her viewers caught up. It's hard to tell the exact date of ketamine administration but, based on context, appears to be in 2019.
Later in 2019 while at her first nursing home, Chelsea says she was accused of being a drug addict. This was likely referencing her prescribed doses of opiates, not necessarily ketamine. She also named her teddy bear after ketamine and percocet which is... a choice.
Transcript: The pain was excruciating. Then one night the doctors decided um that I was a um a drug addict and they pulled every single one of my medications including the ones that were keeping convulsions and seizures and spasms and everything, just decided to pull everything. Narcotics, muscle spasms, and I've been on these meds for years. Just pulled them all at once which made everything absolutely worse because they thought that I had a problem, which we'll get to that story later on. And then then the doctor says why are you are you yawning a lot? I said yeah I'm yawning a lot, she goes that's a sign of drug addiction. Or maybe it's because I'm not sleeping because I'm in pain. And many doctors come in and accuse me of a lot of different things at this hospital.
Transcript: We had one of the pt people walk into my room with my teddy bear and go, "is this your friend? Is this your friend? What's your friend's name?" This is called infantilism, it's a form of ableism. She goes, "is this your friend? What's your friend's name?" I go, "that's my friend Purkette. It's named after my last surgery off of percocet and ketamine. What's your name?"
In April 2020, Chelsea claims to have gotten off opiates due to the stigma impacting her care. She's said that this took months, so it may be in response to the above. She brags a lot about how easy this was. She notes that she still has medications to control her pain.
Transcript: Okay so when all of this is going on I also discontinued taking all of my opiates because I wanted to get off them. There was a lot of stigma behind it but when this happened I noticed all of these symptoms started to pop up.
Transcript: I've worked really hard to get off all of my opiates. I've been on opiates for like most of my life and because of the stigma I was getting from doctors because of invisible illnesses and because of the eds and because of all of the somatic crap that they put on me last year I was like let me show you that I can manage all of this without opiates. And so I did it and I dropped my opiates that I had been on for over 15 years of my life and I've been on every opiate imaginable, pretty high doses. And I did it in under two months no withdrawals no problems no things and half these people were like, "you're gonna have detox you're gonna need a rehab you're gonna need-" like no my body doesn't have issues with it. Apologize you can hear my dog rolling around.
A few days later in April 2020, Chelsea complains that her doctor is trying to get her off of a mystery medication. In the comments she clarifies this medication is a sedative. I'm pretty sure this is ketamine.
June 2020 Chelsea has ketamine prescribed for home administration. She takes a few doses for an MRI, claiming it "numbs out" her central nervous system and "kills any stimulation coming in". It appears that her doctor failed in tapering her off ketamine.
In November 2020, Chelsea is asking her doctor for more pain meds. Because she has previously considered her sedative a pain med, I assume this is a request to increase ketamine.
Transcript: I tried to call my pain doctor today to let them know that I need more pain meds, which made me feel like a failure but it's really hard to admit that you need more pain meds, really hard to admit that reality.
February 2021, Chelsea implies she's had occurrences of nodding out on ketamine. In the clipped video she talks about her massive fatigue and inability to even open her eyes, but claims it wasn't due to pain medications. That reads, to me, there are times she can't open her eyes due to high doses of ketamine. Up to you if that's too much of a stretch.
Transcript: Lethargic, lethargic, fatigued and it's not like a fatigue like, "oh I'm tired." It's like a couple days ago I literally couldn't open my eyes and it wasn't do it due to a pain medication or any medication.
In late 2022, as we all know, Chelsea confirmed in an interview that she takes ketamine.
So my best bet is she was introduced to K in 2019 but didn't take to it. When she realized no one was taking her malingering seriously due to her opiate use, she detoxed. To fill the black hole in her addict heart, she warmed up to K and has been escalating ever since.
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Just checking to see how our little miracle is doing without fluids.
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Totally dying, but bothers to video reply to a comment from someone who thought her feeding tube affected her voice somehow. Because priorities.
I bet she's been home for a while, sans tubes and just posting drafts from the hospital.
I bet she's been home for a while, sans tubes and just posting drafts from the hospital.
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"hanging w/elites"
Nobody gives a shit about that, we think Selma Blair and Lena Dunham are full of shit too.
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Chelton's religious tendencies are perhaps one of my favorite examples in munchies. The comments she makes in the above post are so funny to me. She has actively demonstrated how lacking in intelligence she is already, so are we meant to believe this kethead has a degree in some sort of religious studies? Looking back through her history, I don't think there's any evidence of her going to college to get more knowledge, but correct me if I'm wrong. I could only find references to her acting/modelling "career" before she accepted a full time position in the malingering sector.
If she really did study to become a Religious Expert then...fair enough I guess, some of the colleges offering Mickey Mouse religious study degrees have a very very low bar for entry. But I really don't buy it. These low bar religious courses will be dedicated to teaching standard milquetoast evangelical doctrines, it's just a big bible study group that you have to pay for. Her religious perspective does not reflect standard milquetoast evangelical doctrine at all. She gets offended by strangers commenting to turn to Jesus in her final hours because "if I wasn't Christian that would be very hurtful
" and insists that because Jews just so happen to share the Torah with Christians everything is fine and good actually. n.b. Though some more reputable universities will encourage a more academic approach and look at doctrines from a critical standpoint, this is completely off the table for Chelsea as she is too dumb to reach the entry criteria.I wonder what her standard milquetoast evangelical pastor thinks about her insistence that Christianity isn't the be-all-and-end-all for her soon impending passing onning. Even Brooklyn Speaks, the MCAS/EDS who VSED'd for Jesus, would have replied with a cursory "amen sister I can't wait to see Jesus soon" rather than looking for something to get offended by where there isn't in Chelton's case, but she is just too much of a specimen for that.Don't think I am defending the standard milquetoast evangelicals here. I have just come to the conclusion that just as Chelsea is stupid when it comes to anything medical, she is also stupid about her own religious basics and that this second, minor part of her identity after munching is also done extremely badly. Even the fundies on her page can see through it. Then we have the constant arguing, insults, blatant lying, wow very christian much holy. I think she is only professing a mild, no-effort Christianity to multiply the attention from her elderly mother but once she is out of the picture the Christian facade will drop entirely.
Sorry this is such a late addition for those comments. Clocks are duly accepted in your tithes and offerings.
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Well, there is Crown College (https://www.crown.edu/), not far from her.Chelton's religious tendencies are perhaps one of my favorite examples in munchies. The comments she makes in the above post are so funny to me. She has actively demonstrated how lacking in intelligence she is already, so are we meant to believe this kethead has a degree in some sort of religious studies? Looking back through her history, I don't think there's any evidence of her going to college to get more knowledge, but correct me if I'm wrong. I could only find references to her acting/modelling "career" before she accepted a full time position in the malingering sector.
If she really did study to become a Religious Expert then...fair enough I guess, some of the colleges offering Mickey Mouse religious study degrees have a very very low bar for entry. But I really don't buy it. These low bar religious courses will be dedicated to teaching standard milquetoast evangelical doctrines, it's just a big bible study group that you have to pay for. Her religious perspective does not reflect standard milquetoast evangelical doctrine at all. She gets offended by strangers commenting to turn to Jesus in her final hours because "if I wasn't Christian that would be very hurtful
Don't think I am defending the standard milquetoast evangelicals here. I have just come to the conclusion that just as Chelsea is stupid when it comes to anything medical, she is also stupid about her own religious basics and that this second, minor part of her identity after munching is also done extremely badly. Even the fundies on her page can see through it. Then we have the constant arguing, insults, blatant lying, wow very christian much holy. I think she is only professing a mild, no-effort Christianity to multiply the attention from her elderly mother but once she is out of the picture the Christian facade will drop entirely.
Sorry this is such a late addition for those comments. Clocks are duly accepted in your tithes and offerings.
"Jesus Only
Every major we have is built on the foundation of Jesus. Integrate your faith with your passion."...
Never met a scholar (religious or otherwise) who was so small-town. "I am a biblical scholar on top of my other degrees [lol -ed.] the first five books of our Bible make up the Bible for Jewish people.". But in a prototypical Minnesota way, which is to say, being sweetly warm and tolerant of all those poor misguided wretches (mostly but not exclusively brown) from hell-holes where all the children are definitely not above average. Sort of a malignant Rose Nylund.
I know there is a Deb, Barb, or Marge (Margie) in her family somewhere.
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Interesting find.
Standard milquetoast evangelicals, check.
Low academic rigor (admission GPA 2.0)
Must be Christian to join
Though their pastoral majors etc. are BA the actual Biblical study ones are all associates degrees. I get that the website promotes a higher Christian ethos than is probably there within the student body but given what they probably teach then why would Chelton be so bad at basic Christianity?
I note that you can request a transcript for $3 but I'm still not won over that she actually has a degree let alone from here.
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While trying to find where her "diagram" was from ran across Etsy Furry Cards for MCAS Awareness.
Update She answered Gemma:
Update She answered Gemma:
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Re: her opiate use and accusations of drug seeking
Just like munchies don't realise most people with chronic invisible illnesses aren't accused of faking by multiple doctors, munchies don't realise it's possible to be on long-term opiates without being accused of drug seeking, as long as you're not behaving like, well, a drug seeker.
If they didn't ask for high dose opiates in the ER and just shut up and did what the doctors suggested then it probably wouldn't raise those red flags. When a person is in 10/10 pain it's unmistakable. It's written all over their faces, it's indicated in their behaviour, and there's usually physiological indicators like significantly elevated blood pressure. It's pretty common to vomit from intense pain. If you're showing physiological signs of distress (and not just deliberately hyperventilating while making cry faces, or just having a panic attack) you're going to be taken seriously. That doesn't mean you're going to get top shelf drugs immediately, but of course it's suspicious to refuse morphine and ask for a stronger drug right out of the gate. If you're in 10/10 pain you'll try whatever the fuck a doctor gives you in case it helps even a little bit and if you're not responding well it's the doctor's call, not the patient's, to try stronger drugs.
It's true that long-term opiate use can make you very tolerant to morphine, to the point where it won't make you dopey at all and if you're in 10/10 pain the usual doses might not help much or even at all. But if doctor's given you multiple doses of IV morphine and you're still showing those same symptoms with little to no improvement, they're going to try other drugs.
It's not normal for people with chronic pain to request a particular drug. That's not a thing a non-drug seeker does. A non-drug seeker will be honest about the pain meds they take and leave the issue of medication in the doctor's hands.
I'm not saying there's not stigma attached to people who take opiates, especially when they arrive at the ER purely for pain control. You're going to be looked at closely. But just because they mentally screen you for drug-seeking behaviour doesn't mean they're automatically going to determine you are seeking drugs.
Just like munchies don't realise most people with chronic invisible illnesses aren't accused of faking by multiple doctors, munchies don't realise it's possible to be on long-term opiates without being accused of drug seeking, as long as you're not behaving like, well, a drug seeker.
If they didn't ask for high dose opiates in the ER and just shut up and did what the doctors suggested then it probably wouldn't raise those red flags. When a person is in 10/10 pain it's unmistakable. It's written all over their faces, it's indicated in their behaviour, and there's usually physiological indicators like significantly elevated blood pressure. It's pretty common to vomit from intense pain. If you're showing physiological signs of distress (and not just deliberately hyperventilating while making cry faces, or just having a panic attack) you're going to be taken seriously. That doesn't mean you're going to get top shelf drugs immediately, but of course it's suspicious to refuse morphine and ask for a stronger drug right out of the gate. If you're in 10/10 pain you'll try whatever the fuck a doctor gives you in case it helps even a little bit and if you're not responding well it's the doctor's call, not the patient's, to try stronger drugs.
It's true that long-term opiate use can make you very tolerant to morphine, to the point where it won't make you dopey at all and if you're in 10/10 pain the usual doses might not help much or even at all. But if doctor's given you multiple doses of IV morphine and you're still showing those same symptoms with little to no improvement, they're going to try other drugs.
It's not normal for people with chronic pain to request a particular drug. That's not a thing a non-drug seeker does. A non-drug seeker will be honest about the pain meds they take and leave the issue of medication in the doctor's hands.
I'm not saying there's not stigma attached to people who take opiates, especially when they arrive at the ER purely for pain control. You're going to be looked at closely. But just because they mentally screen you for drug-seeking behaviour doesn't mean they're automatically going to determine you are seeking drugs.
I have all the respect in the world for people who work in ERs. It must take heroic levels of self-restraint not to openly roll your eyes and tell people to fuck off when they're seeking drugs or being insanely OTT like Chelsea. The sheer amount of bullshit they encounter is mind-boggling. I was at ER with my husband several months ago and the guy ahead of my husband at intake would have made me lose my shit. He had a cut across the inside of his index finger that looked pretty superficial, wasn't across the joint, and it seemed to have already clotted up on the drive over because he was waving his unbandaged finger around the whole time and there was no bleeding. He immediately asked the intake nurse who's just there to write down your details for pain relief, and told her with complete seriousness "I think I severed an artery or something."
I could not. The man reminded me immediately of our munchies and I have no idea how the nurse kept a straight face. He was incidentally next door to my husband later on and he asked the doctor twice if he was sure he didn't need stitches.
I could not. The man reminded me immediately of our munchies and I have no idea how the nurse kept a straight face. He was incidentally next door to my husband later on and he asked the doctor twice if he was sure he didn't need stitches.
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Yea but you don’t get it. Munchie baseline is 10/10, normies just can’t compare. But honestly though, for a bunch of highly pain tolerant individuals, they gripe constantly.
thankfully these pain warriors are conveniently unemployed, they never have to worry about actually utilizing their super human abilities. Just had a coworker pass, absolutely stellar man, punctual, never complained, yes or no ma’am/sir, worked overtime while just recently completing his phd, just succumbed to renal disease. Only a few people knew he was ill, it shook just about the entire building. These little girls have no idea just how soft of a life they have. Sorry, just a little sad 
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Yea but you don’t get it. Munchie baseline is 10/10, normies just can’t compare. But honestly though, for a bunch of highly pain tolerant individuals, they gripe constantly.
thankfully these pain warriors are conveniently unemployed, they never have to worry about actually utilizing their super human abilities. Just had a coworker pass, absolutely stellar man, punctual, never complained, yes or no ma’am/sir, worked overtime while just recently completing his phd, just succumbed to renal disease. Only a few people knew he was ill, it shook just about the entire building. These little girls have no idea just how soft of a life they have. Sorry, just a little sad
I'm sorry about your co-worker, renal disease is awful. You're completely right that people who are constantly unwell and in pain tend to not complain all that much about it or even mention it to people because it's not what they want to focus on. Normal people don't want their illness to define them and they don't want people to treat them like invalids.
The thing with the pain scale is, if you constantly have pain and that pain escalates over the years, you simply form new baselines. If you live with almost constant chronic pain you're forced to accept you're always going to be in some pain and shift your focus from obliterating the pain to managing the pain. That's because completely wiping out the pain would necessitate stronger and stronger meds, and most people understand the many reasons that's undesirable so they take the minimum they can to get by. So, your baseline begins at tolerable pain rather than zero pain. You never, ever see munchies talking about adjusting their pain scale. It's completely unrealistic that they're in 10/10 pain, considering 10 is supposed to be the worst pain you've ever felt. So they're in more pain than they've ever been every single day? It only escalates and never improves, even for a day here and there? It's ridiculous, and they can't see that.
Munchies will never understand why they come across as disingenuous. Even people with genuine illnesses who do a lot of advocacy work talk about things other than being sick on their personal social media accounts and amongst family and friends. It's bizarre to make it the focus of your entire world. People with dire medical situations that impede on their daily life (such as people who have to spend long periods of time inpatient) do whatever they can to escape that situation mentally. They want to be distracted so they're not focused on their illness all the time.
I think that's all part of what makes munchies so easy to spot online, and a little harder for doctors to see from ER visits and short hospital admissions. We can see through their online activity that their entire lives revolve around their illness and that it's their whole identity. We can see all the inconsistencies and OTT statements and actions. I think that's why it's a really good thing when doctors check social media for patients who ping their bullshit radar. Increasingly it seems that doctors are becoming savvy about doing that, and it won't be long until they recognise what the zebra accessories mean. I'm sure as it is seeing those dumb etsy shirts that advertise their illnesses/medical toys is at the very least something of a red flag to doctors.
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Chelton is home and making stupid sit there and nod-toks.
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I can’t keep her narrative straight any more. Was she not just claiming she was imminently dying in end stage SPS+ after 20 years of medical neglect? No meds, feed, or fluids?
Did getting cut off magically improve some of that?
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Chelsea, congratulations on surviving hospice!