Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month

[byuu]

So Linux is as locked-in to particular hardware as iOS and that's just fine. Wow.

Nah, I was literally saying "Windows Mobile". Which is a complete bullshit OS that doesn't respect my choices because I can't run it on iPhones.

 

[SilentDuck]

There's some real dumbfuck opinions in this thread but this takes the cake. Every megahuge tech company has their own linux "distro" because it is an open and well defined system. They have the engineers on staff to take linux and modify it to the extreme to fit their own specific use case and squeeze out every last bit of specific performance of it.

Of course a generalized Linux distro meant for public consumption will not have these specific changes. Why the fuck would it?

The more this thread goes on the more I am convinced that the terminal is just a retard filter and that halfway intelligent computer users should thank god that the year of the Linux desktop never actually happened. It would be eternal September x1000. You people deserve your proprietary hellscape.

They use their own distributions to eliminate problems: wasted time, data loss and downtime because time is money - a concept very much lost on linux savants who don't know why Grandma doesn't just compile her own kernel.

 

[Aidan]

So Linux is as locked-in to particular hardware as iOS and that's just fine. Wow.

Linux: it's about choice, as long as you choose the right way.

TPM 2.0 says hi

 

[Matt Damon]

Nah, I was literally saying "Windows Mobile". Which is a complete bullshit OS that doesn't respect my choices because I can't run it on iPhones.

I love that the Linux tards in this very thread are continuously criticizing and ridiculing anyone who thinks it's a bad idea to switch to Linux and claiming they're making unjustifiable "excuses" while you're openly admitting that trying to use an nVidia GPU on Linux is tantamount to running Windows Mobile on an iPhone. nVidia - the company with >75% of the discrete GPU market.

The cognitive dissonance is just breathtaking.

TPM 2.0 says hi

Yeah, Windows is shit. Microsoft is shit. Will you say the same about Linux?

 

[caccoooo bird]

Remember, Linux is all about choice and you chose the wrong hardware so it's all your fault.

Because it's obvious then when you install a software on your system by your choice and said software is unable to function on the hardware because the hardware manufacturer has not done anything to support that portion of their customers that want to use that combination of software on hardware. It's clearly the fault of developers of the software! No way either you, or the hardware manufacturer plays any part in it.

Because if tool A is shit, but tool B cannot solve all problems in the world, then it's clear that tool B cannot be better than tool A, for anyone.

 

[Aidan]

Yeah, Windows is shit. Microsoft is shit. Will you say the same about Linux?

Linux doesn't spy on me and runs on stuff I've had for a long time so we're cool and have a good time.

I was actually going to post how Windows is the oddball when it comes to end-user hardware support but it's not really here or there and has a lot of nuance. It's just worth accepting that for now this is the de facto Linux Hate Thread.

 

[byuu]

I love that the Linux tards in this very thread are continuously criticizing and ridiculing anyone who thinks it's a bad idea to switch to Linux and claiming they're making unjustifiable "excuses" while openly admitting that trying to use an nVidia GPU on Linux is tantamount to running Windows Mobile on an iPhone. nVidia - the company with >75% of the discrete GPU market.

iPhones have like a 60% market share of the American smartphone market. Seems like a fitting analogy.

You're upset that people don't manage to painstakingly reverse-engineer complex hardware from We Hate Linux Inc. and recreate drivers, that even multi-billion dollar companies struggle with, the moment it gets released.

 

[Matt Damon]

it's clear that tool B cannot be better than tool A, for anyone.

Are you fucking retarded? That's what the Linux users in this thread have been saying the whole time.

They're the ones proclaiming the Linux gospel. I don't have any particular affinity for Windows - I just hate the deceptive proselytizing of the Linux community.

iPhones have like a 60% market share of the American smartphone market. Seems like a fitting analogy.

It's like you're making a concerted effort to miss the point.

 

[Pissmaster]

Guys, I've bought an iPhone - why doesn't Windows Mobile work on it?

Buying hardware that works with what you want to use seems like common sense to me.

Shit nigga, a lot of people stick to iPhones despite hating Apple and all the retarded shit iOS does because learning Android and its quirks is a bridge too far. And those are phones, those are as simple as they come.

 

[Toolbox]

Shit nigga, a lot of people stick to iPhones despite hating Apple and all the retarded shit iOS does because learning Android and its quirks is a bridge too far. And those are phones, those are as simple as they come.

You're defending retards that can't even learn how to use a different mobile OS?

 

[Kosher Dill]

So, 2 days left to buy your new Win10 licenses. How many has everyone bought?

 

[Pissmaster]

You're defending retards that can't even learn how to use a different mobile OS?

Apple has the highest market cap in the fuckin' world because it's too much of a hassle for most people to bother leaving their ecosystem that's designed to keep you in their walled garden. You can go to Android, but everything's a little different and you have to learn the quirks, and yes, that's a bridge too far for a seriously significant amount of people.

Shieet, man, 100 years ago you'd be calling people retards for looking at Esperanto and saying "lol I'm not learning that shit". There's just no tangible, clear-cut benefit. It never caught on. Linux won't catch on for home use until there's enough benefit for laptops to start commonly shipping with them as opposed to Windows. In a world where average people find the jump from iOS to Android is a bridge too far, how the hell do you think an OS where you're expected to know how to compile from source from the get go is supposed to catch on? How much free time and willpower to relearn something do you think the entire rest of the planet has?

 

[The Ugly One]

What kind of disingenuous shit is this?

You're the one who said you hadn't messed with Windows 11 long enough to figure out how to change app notifications and do copy/paste correctly. I can only go by what you said.

I deal with Windows for a living. I dealt with it long enough to know that these kind of changes should NOT be pushed out willy nilly onto unsuspecting end users. They know they are retards when it comes to this shit and they shouldn't be punished with this crap. You should be, frankly.


Are you being purposefully dense? Good job, you phase in and out of retard really well.


It's funny, you've actually fucking nailed it. Windows is exactly that. The UI, front end is constantly dumbed down for people like you with third world IQ and initiative, and the internal components are constantly re-worked so that you can't really dig much deeper unless you accept that it starts to follow the Linux model of command line/WSL/oh no not freetards in muh windos system!

You can't figure out how to configure notifications in Windows 11 because you're too smart for it. I'm comfortable setting up and using hybrid Win 11/RHEL 8 work environments because I'm stupid.

Yep, that's how intelligence works.

Semantics: the dishonest smarter than you's favorite thing.

It's not mere semantics. Telling people that "Linux fixes your software update issues" when not all Linux distros are even remotely created equal is misleading. It's such an important issue that CentOS market share in critical industries is collapsing due to switching from trailing RHEL releases to a rolling-release "preview" model. Ubuntu is one of the worst operating systems in existence when it comes to breaking your machine with overnight updates, breaking core libs like Open Fucking GL with auto-updates. The shit-tier quality of the most common Linux-based desktop OS absolutely matters when you're claiming it's some kind of cure-all.

I don't treat computing platforms like part of my identity. They're just machines for doing a job. You talk about Linux like a 19th-century quack hawking laudanum from the back of a cart.

We're talking about Windows and how it sucks.

We're actually talking about how not being able to buy a new Win 10 license any more makes some of you MATI because the UI for system notifications changed.

 

[byuu]

Apple has the highest market cap in the fuckin' world because it's too much of a hassle for most people to bother leaving their ecosystem that's designed to keep you in their walled garden. You can go to Android, but everything's a little different and you have to learn the quirks, and yes, that's a bridge too far for a seriously significant amount of people.

Shieet, man, 100 years ago you'd be calling people retards for looking at Esperanto and saying "lol I'm not learning that shit". There's just no tangible, clear-cut benefit. It never caught on. Linux won't catch on for home use until there's enough benefit for laptops to start commonly shipping with them as opposed to Windows. In a world where average people find the jump from iOS to Android is a bridge too far, how the hell do you think an OS where you're expected to know how to compile from source from the get go is supposed to catch on? How much free time and willpower to relearn something do you think the entire rest of the planet has?

That's the nice thing about Linux. I don't need to relearn everything because Microsoft decides to make everything different in their new version.
My setup works more or less the same as it did 20 years ago.

 

[zyclonPD]

So, 2 days left to buy your new Win10 licenses. How many has everyone bought?

Brah, I'm running windows 7 unlicensed on my laptop. Fuck licenses. Fuck telemetry. Fuck modernity. I'm in the stone age and I'm free, can you say the same future man?

 

[Pissmaster]

Microsoft decides to make everything different in their new version.

no they didn't

 

[byuu]

no they didn't

Sad that you have to defend all of Microsoft's fuckery because you got filtered by Linux and have no other choice.

 

[Pissmaster]

Sad that you have to defend all of Microsoft's fuckery because you got filtered by Linux and have no other choice.

I could use a Mac if I wanted to, I guess, but until Adobe software works on Linux, I’m sticking to Windows.

Maybe KF would have better uptime if it ran on Windows Server instead

 

[byuu]

I could use a Mac if I wanted to, I guess, but until Adobe software works on Linux, I’m sticking to Windows.

So you want to use Linux but Adobe is forcing you to stay on Windows?
Sad.

 

[The Ugly One]

Apple has the highest market cap in the fuckin' world because it's too much of a hassle for most people to bother leaving their ecosystem that's designed to keep you in their walled garden. You can go to Android, but everything's a little different and you have to learn the quirks, and yes, that's a bridge too far for a seriously significant amount of people.

My wife does the iPhone/iPad/Macbook/iMac thing, and the way all that shit plays together is, I have to admit, pretty slick. Steve Ballmer wins the prize for biggest goat of all time by not jumping on the smartphone revolution, and now it's really just too late for Microsoft.

Shieet, man, 100 years ago you'd be calling people retards for looking at Esperanto and saying "lol I'm not learning that shit". There's just no tangible, clear-cut benefit. It never caught on. Linux won't catch on for home use until there's enough benefit for laptops to start commonly shipping with them as opposed to Windows. In a world where average people find the jump from iOS to Android is a bridge too far, how the hell do you think an OS where you're expected to know how to compile from source from the get go is supposed to catch on? How much free time and willpower to relearn something do you think the entire rest of the planet has?

Also just how often Wine comes up in these discussions...if I have to containerize applications built for another operating system and run them through a compatibility layer with the crapshoot that entails just to have a working environment, what problem am I solving again? Windows was too complicated?