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Ancient Egyptians were so into oral sex, they put it in their religion — and religious art​

The popular perception of Western history is that humans have grown less puritanical over time; compare, for instance, how the sight of an ankle (on a man or woman) was considered shocking in 18th and 19th-century Victorian culture. Given our current attitudes towards clothing, clearly something has shifted, as even the percentage of one's bare skin that is socially acceptable has increased linearly since then.

Yet there are some subjects that we are far more prudish about than our historical counterparts. Case in point: oral sex, which is apt to provoke squeamishness among, say, media execs and priests today. Yet ancient Egyptian priests would have eagerly and publicly conversed with you about oral sex, because it was a crucial aspect of both their culture and religion.

To understand why, look no further than the Book of the Dead of Henuttawy. It can be found in a funerary papyrus in the British Museum, a phrase that when read aloud makes the document sound quite serious and perhaps even wholesome. Yet in this holy scroll, the Egyptians depict their Earth god Geb — a deity so important that the planet itself was referred to as the "House of Geb" — performing an act that lends a different meaning to his nickname as the father of snakes.
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"Sucking himself off" was the phrase used by Dr. Richard Bruce Parkinson, a Professor of Egyptology at the University of Oxford. Unpacking the image for Salon, Parkinson explained that "it is thought that this is a symbolic representation of the way in which the earth can create things out of itself all by itself. It seems to be an image of a self-sustaining act; in Egyptian mythology, anything to do with creation is often conceived of as a sexual act."

While Geb's act of self-pleasure is no doubt memorable, it was hardly a solitary depiction in Egyptian artifacts. Parkinson also recalled how Atum the creator God in one popular myth "begets the first generation of gods after himself, as the sole creator, with an act of masturbation." Depending on the source, the act of masturbation is either manual (only involving the hand) or can involve both Atum's mouth and his hand. Regardless, however, it is clear that Egyptians who shared these stories so frequently that they were part of common conversation did not view them as particularly shocking, even if it leads to images that Parkinson admits are "striking to modern eyes."

"I think it's quite fun to realize that a male deity performing that act on himself, [which] for us is basically something pornographic" was mundane to Egyptians to the point where, unlike today, you could "expect to see in the highest, most prestigious levels of religious imagery."
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As the above bronze figure of the fertility god Amun-Kamutef reinforces, Egyptian reverence for sexuality was not limited to its masturbatory and oral manifestations. Parkinson pointed out to Salon that, while we do not know a lot about Egyptians' day-to-day perceptions on sexuality, "there is a great deal of sexual imagery in religious iconography. It's very common to see gods with erect phalluses, which is an expression of strength, masculinity and also for virility. And when the god of the dead Osiris is resurrected, one aspect of this is his ability to have an erection."

It is important, of course, to not overstate the Egyptians' permissive attitudes toward sex. In fact, in many ways ancient Egyptians were just as intolerant as their Old Testament Jewish counterparts. Extra-marital relations and adultery were harshly condemned, and the consequences of being caught were fatal to women. There is also evidence that Egyptians did not approve of oral sex when it was performed by one man to another "man who copulates" or one who was penetrated during intercourse. Yet this does not mean that Egyptians were homophobic (in the modern sense); their language did not have words for "homosexual," "heterosexual" or "bisexual." They did not conceive of "gender" as a construct, although their notions of it can be broadly construed as binary. Egyptians simply did not conceive of sex acts in ways that fit neatly into modern heteronormative discourse. For instance, in the Old Kingdom tale "Contendings of Horus and Seth," the falcon-headed god Horus catches in his hand the semen of another god, Seth, as the latter attempts to anally penetrate him. When Horus shows Seth's semen to his mother Isis, she cuts off Horus' hand and throws it into a river while putting Horus' own semen on Seth's lettuce, which Seth then consumes.

Such narratives, needless to say, defy conventional categorization.

Perhaps because Egyptian sexual mores seem foreign today, they have also inspired a lot of false facts about their culture that circulate periodically. One popular online urban legend holds that Egyptians invented lipstick because it helped women's lips appear like engorged labia. While it is certainly commendable to encourage clitoral pleasure during sex, the idea that Egyptians were such amazing lovers that they flaunted it on their faces is not supported by historical evidence.

"It's a culture that has been viewed from colonialist and orientalist perspectives, and that means there are an awful lot of inaccurate urban myths," Parkinson told Salon. As for the lipstick myth, "there is a scene in a papyrus in the Turin museum which shows a lady painting her lips, but she is using something that looks like a brush. So there is lip paint, but no lipstick. Is there evidence that this had anything to do with oral sex? Absolutely not, no!"

Overall, the Egyptian view towards oral sex reflects a culture which took certain aspects of sexuality for granted and which are viewed as outside the parameters of polite conversation today.

"There are love songs in ancient Egypt celebrating sexual desire and its consummation, but as with all literature, you can't use that as a documentary source for social realities," Parksinson observed. "It seems though that on the whole, compared to European attitudes, there was a straightforward, open celebratory view of sexuality meaning the sort of sexuality that results in children, so normal heterosexual intercourse." Sexual desire itself was "very much celebrated, and that sort of sexual activity was also used as a metaphor for life after death. People would attain eternal life in a process of rebirth for which sexual imagery was often used, as with creation."
 
Ancient religions all used sex as a ritual practice. Women had to serve as the town whore in ancient Babylon before they got married in order to honor Ishtar the goddess of fertility. Hell, I read an article on here the other day that said that 19th century aborigines took their young women out and let several men rape them while a woman held the girl down. The woman was the one who tricked her to going out of the village to be raped. This had to occur before the woman was allowed to marry. That’s why they are referred to as heathen.
 
Ancient religions all used sex as a ritual practice. Women had to serve as the town whore in ancient Babylon before they got married in order to honor Ishtar the goddess of fertility. Hell, I read an article on here the other day that said that 19th century aborigines took their young women out and let several men rape them while a woman held the girl down. The woman was the one who tricked her to going out of the village to be raped. This had to occur before the woman was allowed to marry. That’s why they are referred to as heathen.

There's plenty of reasonable doubt that the Greeks were actually flaming gay, as their society was pretty darn heteronormative.

Why do I bring this up? Just to compare them to other ancient peoples, like the Canaanites and the Carthaginians. These two actually placed all kinds of sexual degeneracies on a very high pedestal. The more perverse, the better. Homosexuality and bestiality was among those practices, and Canaanite goddesses were worshipped by crossdressing priests.

Erotic dreams involving members of the same sex, or animals, were considered good omens. Erotic dreams involving your wife were considered bad omens. So not only did they embrace sexual degeneracy whole-heartedly, they considered vanilla heterosexuality with their wives to be a literal chore, done only to propagate the species and their society. Just like today, there was an undercurrent of heterophobia.

St Augustine had this to say about Carthage, an apt description of today's troons:

They were seen yesterday, their hair moist, their faces covered in make-up, their limbs flaccid, their walk effeminate, wandering through the streets and squares of Carthage, demanding from the public the means to subsidize their shameful life.
 
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There's plenty of reasonable doubt that the Greeks were actually flaming gay, as their society was pretty darn heteronormative.

Why do I bring this up? Just to compare them to other ancient peoples, like the Canaanites and the Carthaginians. These two actually placed all kinds of sexual degeneracies on a very high pedestal. The more perverse, the better. Homosexuality and bestiality was among those practices, and Canaanite goddesses were worshipped by crossdressing priests.

Erotic dreams involving members of the same sex, or animals, were considered good omens. Erotic dreams involving your wife were considered bad omens. So not only did they embrace sexual degeneracy whole-heartedly, they considered vanilla heterosexuality with their wives to be a literal chore, done only to propagate the species and their society.

St Augustine had this to say about Carthage, an apt description of today's troons:
Yes I totally agree with you on the Greeks not being gay. That’s alphabet propaganda to make everyone pro homo. I have seen that video you posted. Someone introduced me to it here about a month ago.
 
Yeah but is it really gay if it's self-suck?
Yes.

Considering the lengths one would need to go through to become limber enough to do it, it is a reflection of ones own degeneracy and need to coom and hence gay.
I have seen that video you posted.
Its pretty good. Basically the idea Greeks where massive faggots is entirely based off literally a handful of pieces of pottery featuring homosexual acts and people overemphasizing what a few Ancient Greeks said about homosexuality or in some cases male/male relationships all the while ignoring the writings of every Greek who condemned homosexuality.

tldr theres not actual solid physical evidence Greeks embraced faggotry, just the interpretations by modern degenerates.
Why do I bring this up? Just to compare them to other ancient peoples, like the Canaanites and the Carthaginians. These two actually placed all kinds of sexual degeneracies on a very high pedestal. The more perverse, the better. Homosexuality and bestiality was among those practices, and Canaanite goddesses were worshipped by crossdressing priests.
This.

The Phoenicians and its splinter cultures like Carthage where genuine degenerates that openly embraced degeneracy.
 
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What a surprise, historians have once again discovered that human were horny horny creatures who love sticking their things in things and/or sticking things into their things. People really do forget how having little distraction leads to obscene amounts of sex.

Its important to remeber that humans have not fundamentally changed all that much since the start of non-nomadic civilization.
 
Not sure I buy this. The author didn’t really supply evidence for his theories and relied on the ever douche line of, “trust me bro.” Now, if he’d included scholarly discussion on ancient hymnals to cunnilingus & fellatio, with sources and other interpretations, to back up and counter his narrative, it could be an interesting case study. As is, reads like wishful thinking, performative, queer-lie, trash.
 
From the shit I remember back when I really got into egyptian shit as a kid the dicks in Egypt art were supposed to have some spiritual symbolic shit tied to them rather than a literal "ooooh i'm fucking sucking my own dick ooooo all egyptians love kweer oral sex ooooo" like how the fucking snake eating it's own ass in ancient civilizations is also a symbolic thing. I see that the article actually HAS that explanation upon skimming it while writing this, so I'm glad it's at least not ALL bullshit. It still spirals into bullshit anyways with it's talk of "modern heteronormativity" and other nonsense.

Yes.

Considering the lengths one would need to go through to become limber enough to do it, it is a reflection of ones own degeneracy and need to coom and hence gay.

Its pretty good. Basically the idea Greeks where massive faggots is entirely based off literally a handful of pieces of pottery featuring homosexual acts and people overemphasizing what a few Ancient Greeks said about homosexuality or in some cases male/male relationships all the while ignoring the writings of every Greek who condemned homosexuality.

tldr theres not actual solid physical evidence Greeks embraced faggotry, just the interpretations by modern degenerates.
Interpretations of greek culture by modern day journos aside, Zeus was a fucking freak and there's no getting around the fact he fucked a woman while transformed into a goose for shits and giggles, unless I'm misremembering this and mixing it up with some other greek lore.
 
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Have you considered that great deal of that might be just ancient Egyptian shit posting? Even with all cultures having differences there are fairly universal patterns. People have always found dicks, farting and sex funny and kinda taboo. Ancient Romans had graffiti that talked about peeing on the bed after getting bad service in a hotel and declaring that they fucked the owner's daughter. Crudeness just be dicks has always existed.

Look at those slongs in the Book of the dead scroll. They are huge, poses are wierd and it's overall badly drawn. To me that looks exactly the same crap as young edgy teen boys draw today, just with less swastikas and middlefingers.
 
From the shit I remember back when I really got into egyptian shit as a kid the dicks in Egypt art were supposed to have some spiritual symbolic shit tied to them rather than a literal "ooooh i'm fucking sucking my own dick ooooo all egyptians love kweer oral sex ooooo" like how the fucking snake eating it's own ass in ancient civilizations is also a symbolic thing. I see that the article actually HAS that explanation upon skimming it while writing this, so I'm glad it's at least not ALL bullshit. It still spirals into bullshit anyways with it's talk of "modern heteronormativity" and other nonsense.


Interpretations of greek culture by modern day journos aside, Zeus was a fucking freak and there's no getting around the fact he fucked a woman while transformed into a goose for shits and giggles, unless I'm misremembering this and mixing it up with some other greek lore.
It was a swan
Zeus was a lech and a rapist
No wonder Hera was such a bitch.
 
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