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Does anyone else genuinely miss the 2000s?
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I thought I had a handle on it until 2010. I was an adult, I handled my shit, and then WHAT THE FUCK.
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These days when people talk about oversocialization, they are usually talking about oversocialization as defined by Ted Kaczynski in his manifesto. Here is the relevant section:
OVERSOCIALIZATION
24. Psychologists use the term "socialization" to designate the process by which children are trained to think and act as society demands. A person is said to be well socialized if he believes in and obeys the moral code of his society and fits in well as a functioning part of that society. It may seem senseless to say that many leftists are oversocialized, since the leftist is perceived as a rebel. Nevertheless, the position can be defended. Many leftists are not such rebels as they seem.
25. The moral code of our society is so demanding that no one can think, feel and act in a completely moral way. For example, we are not supposed to hate anyone, yet almost everyone hates somebody at some time or other, whether he admits it to himself or not. Some people are so highly socialized that the attempt to think, feel and act morally imposes a severe burden on them. In order to avoid feelings of guilt, they continually have to deceive themselves about their own motives and find moral explanations for feelings and actions that in reality have a non-moral origin. We use the term "oversocialized" to describe such people. [2]
26. Oversocialization can lead to low self-esteem, a sense of powerlessness, defeatism, guilt, etc. One of the most important means by which our society socializes children is by making them feel ashamed of behavior or speech that is contrary to society's expectations. If this is overdone, or if a particular child is especially susceptible to such feelings, he ends by feeling ashamed of HIMSELF. Moreover the thought and the behavior of the oversocialized person are more restricted by society's expectations than are those of the lightly socialized person. The majority of people engage in a significant amount of naughty behavior. They lie, they commit petty thefts, they break traffic laws, they goofoff at work, they hate someone, they say spiteful things or they use some underhanded trick to get ahead of the other guy. The oversocialized person cannot do these things, or if he does do them he generates in himself a sense of shame and self-hatred. The oversocialized person cannot even experience, without guilt, thoughts or feelings that are contrary to the accepted morality; he cannot think "unclean" thoughts. And socialization is not just a matter of morality; we are socialized to conform to many norms of behavior that do not fall under the heading of morality. Thus the oversocialized person is kept on a psychological leash and spends his life running on rails that society has laid down for him. In many oversocialized people this results in a sense of constraint and powerlessness that can be a severe hardship. We suggest that oversocialization is among the more serious cruelties that human beings inflict on one another.
27. We argue that a very important and influential segment of the modern left is oversocialized and that their oversocialization is of great importance in determining the direction of modern leftism. Leftists of the oversocialized type tend to be intellectuals or members of the upper-middle class. Notice that university intellectuals [3] constitute the most highly socialized segment of our society and also the most left-wing segment.
28. The leftist of the oversocialized type tries to get off his psychological leash and assert his autonomy by rebelling. But usually he is not strong enough to rebel against the most basic values of society. Generally speaking, the goals of today's leftists are NOT in conflict with the accepted morality. On the contrary, the left takes an accepted moral principle, adopts it as its own, and then accuses mainstream society of violating that principle. Examples: racial equality, equality of the sexes, helping poor people, peace as opposed to war, nonviolence generally, freedom of expression, kindness to animals. More fundamentally, the duty of the individual to serve society and the duty of society to take care of the individual. All these have been deeply rooted values of our society (or at least of its middle and upper classes [4] for a long time. These values are explicitly or implicitly expressed or presupposed in most of the material presented to us by the mainstream communications media and the educational system. Leftists, especially those of the oversocialized type, usually do not rebel against these principles but justify their hostility to society by claiming (with some degree of truth) that society is not living up to these principles.
29. Here is an illustration of the way in which the oversocialized leftist shows his real attachment to the conventional attitudes of our society while pretending to be in rebellion against it. Many leftists push for affirmative action, for moving black people into high-prestige jobs, for improved education in black schools and more money for such schools; the way of life of the black "underclass" they regard as a social disgrace. They want to integrate the black man into the system, make him a business executive, a lawyer, a scientist just like upper-middle-class white people. The leftists will reply that the last thing they want is to make the black man into a copy of the white man; instead, they want to preserve African American culture. But in what does this preservation of African American culture consist? It can hardly consist in anything more than eating black-style food, listening to black-style music, wearing black-style clothing and going to a black-style church or mosque. In other words, it can express itself only in superficial matters. In all ESSENTIAL respects most leftists of the oversocialized type want to make the black man conform to white, middle-class ideals. They want to make him study technical subjects, become an executive or a scientist, spend his life climbing the status ladder to prove that black people are as good as white. They want to make black fathers "responsible," they want black gangs to become nonviolent, etc. But these are exactly the values of the industrial-technological system. The system couldn't care less what kind of music a man listens to, what kind of clothes he wears or what religion he believes in as long as he studies in school, holds a respectable job, climbs the status ladder, is a "responsible" parent, is nonviolent and so forth. In effect, however much he may deny it, the oversocialized leftist wants to integrate the black man into the system and make him adopt its values.
30. We certainly do not claim that leftists, even of the oversocialized type, NEVER rebel against the fundamental values of our society. Clearly they sometimes do. Some oversocialized leftists have gone so far as to rebel against one of modern society's most important principles by engaging in physical violence. By their own account, violence is for them a form of "liberation." In other words, by committing violence they break through the psychological restraints that have been trained into them. Because they are oversocialized these restraints have been more confining for them than for others; hence their need to break free of them. But they usually justify their rebellion in terms of mainstream values. If they engage in violence they claim to be fighting against racism or the like.
31. We realize that many objections could be raised to the foregoing thumbnail sketch of leftist psychology. The real situation is complex, and anything like a complete description of it would take several volumes even if the necessary data were available. We claim only to have indicated very roughly the two most important tendencies in the psychology of modern leftism.
32. The problems of the leftist are indicative of the problems of our society as a whole. Low self-esteem, depressive tendencies and defeatism are not restricted to the left. Though they are especially noticeable in the left, they are widespread in our society. And today's society tries to socialize us to a greater extent than any previous society. We are even told by experts how to eat, how to exercise, how to make love, how to raise our kids and so forth.
24. Psychologists use the term "socialization" to designate the process by which children are trained to think and act as society demands. A person is said to be well socialized if he believes in and obeys the moral code of his society and fits in well as a functioning part of that society. It may seem senseless to say that many leftists are oversocialized, since the leftist is perceived as a rebel. Nevertheless, the position can be defended. Many leftists are not such rebels as they seem.
25. The moral code of our society is so demanding that no one can think, feel and act in a completely moral way. For example, we are not supposed to hate anyone, yet almost everyone hates somebody at some time or other, whether he admits it to himself or not. Some people are so highly socialized that the attempt to think, feel and act morally imposes a severe burden on them. In order to avoid feelings of guilt, they continually have to deceive themselves about their own motives and find moral explanations for feelings and actions that in reality have a non-moral origin. We use the term "oversocialized" to describe such people. [2]
26. Oversocialization can lead to low self-esteem, a sense of powerlessness, defeatism, guilt, etc. One of the most important means by which our society socializes children is by making them feel ashamed of behavior or speech that is contrary to society's expectations. If this is overdone, or if a particular child is especially susceptible to such feelings, he ends by feeling ashamed of HIMSELF. Moreover the thought and the behavior of the oversocialized person are more restricted by society's expectations than are those of the lightly socialized person. The majority of people engage in a significant amount of naughty behavior. They lie, they commit petty thefts, they break traffic laws, they goofoff at work, they hate someone, they say spiteful things or they use some underhanded trick to get ahead of the other guy. The oversocialized person cannot do these things, or if he does do them he generates in himself a sense of shame and self-hatred. The oversocialized person cannot even experience, without guilt, thoughts or feelings that are contrary to the accepted morality; he cannot think "unclean" thoughts. And socialization is not just a matter of morality; we are socialized to conform to many norms of behavior that do not fall under the heading of morality. Thus the oversocialized person is kept on a psychological leash and spends his life running on rails that society has laid down for him. In many oversocialized people this results in a sense of constraint and powerlessness that can be a severe hardship. We suggest that oversocialization is among the more serious cruelties that human beings inflict on one another.
27. We argue that a very important and influential segment of the modern left is oversocialized and that their oversocialization is of great importance in determining the direction of modern leftism. Leftists of the oversocialized type tend to be intellectuals or members of the upper-middle class. Notice that university intellectuals [3] constitute the most highly socialized segment of our society and also the most left-wing segment.
28. The leftist of the oversocialized type tries to get off his psychological leash and assert his autonomy by rebelling. But usually he is not strong enough to rebel against the most basic values of society. Generally speaking, the goals of today's leftists are NOT in conflict with the accepted morality. On the contrary, the left takes an accepted moral principle, adopts it as its own, and then accuses mainstream society of violating that principle. Examples: racial equality, equality of the sexes, helping poor people, peace as opposed to war, nonviolence generally, freedom of expression, kindness to animals. More fundamentally, the duty of the individual to serve society and the duty of society to take care of the individual. All these have been deeply rooted values of our society (or at least of its middle and upper classes [4] for a long time. These values are explicitly or implicitly expressed or presupposed in most of the material presented to us by the mainstream communications media and the educational system. Leftists, especially those of the oversocialized type, usually do not rebel against these principles but justify their hostility to society by claiming (with some degree of truth) that society is not living up to these principles.
29. Here is an illustration of the way in which the oversocialized leftist shows his real attachment to the conventional attitudes of our society while pretending to be in rebellion against it. Many leftists push for affirmative action, for moving black people into high-prestige jobs, for improved education in black schools and more money for such schools; the way of life of the black "underclass" they regard as a social disgrace. They want to integrate the black man into the system, make him a business executive, a lawyer, a scientist just like upper-middle-class white people. The leftists will reply that the last thing they want is to make the black man into a copy of the white man; instead, they want to preserve African American culture. But in what does this preservation of African American culture consist? It can hardly consist in anything more than eating black-style food, listening to black-style music, wearing black-style clothing and going to a black-style church or mosque. In other words, it can express itself only in superficial matters. In all ESSENTIAL respects most leftists of the oversocialized type want to make the black man conform to white, middle-class ideals. They want to make him study technical subjects, become an executive or a scientist, spend his life climbing the status ladder to prove that black people are as good as white. They want to make black fathers "responsible," they want black gangs to become nonviolent, etc. But these are exactly the values of the industrial-technological system. The system couldn't care less what kind of music a man listens to, what kind of clothes he wears or what religion he believes in as long as he studies in school, holds a respectable job, climbs the status ladder, is a "responsible" parent, is nonviolent and so forth. In effect, however much he may deny it, the oversocialized leftist wants to integrate the black man into the system and make him adopt its values.
30. We certainly do not claim that leftists, even of the oversocialized type, NEVER rebel against the fundamental values of our society. Clearly they sometimes do. Some oversocialized leftists have gone so far as to rebel against one of modern society's most important principles by engaging in physical violence. By their own account, violence is for them a form of "liberation." In other words, by committing violence they break through the psychological restraints that have been trained into them. Because they are oversocialized these restraints have been more confining for them than for others; hence their need to break free of them. But they usually justify their rebellion in terms of mainstream values. If they engage in violence they claim to be fighting against racism or the like.
31. We realize that many objections could be raised to the foregoing thumbnail sketch of leftist psychology. The real situation is complex, and anything like a complete description of it would take several volumes even if the necessary data were available. We claim only to have indicated very roughly the two most important tendencies in the psychology of modern leftism.
32. The problems of the leftist are indicative of the problems of our society as a whole. Low self-esteem, depressive tendencies and defeatism are not restricted to the left. Though they are especially noticeable in the left, they are widespread in our society. And today's society tries to socialize us to a greater extent than any previous society. We are even told by experts how to eat, how to exercise, how to make love, how to raise our kids and so forth.
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A couple of webcomics from the late 00s that would be considered edgy today:
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There was a window of time there around 2005-2007 where the confluence of gaming, internet and computers really made it seem like the sky was the limit.
Grand Theft Auto III to GTA San Andreas blew everyone's minds, everyone expected the next generation to deliver an experience that was just as much of a quantum leap and it never really arrived, GTAIV looked better but was back to one city and no countryside, so it couldn't help but feel like a bit of a downgrade, GTAV brought back the countryside but was still one city, never again did the series make your jaw drop as much as SA's seemingly impossible sense of scale did.
Meanwhile the potential of the internet seemed insane, YouTube was insane, all of a sudden information could be thrillingly free and seemed destined to steer humanity into a better direction.
The cracks started to show with the Great Recession but hey look, we just elected the first black President! Obama seemed at the very least a step in the right direction and proof the internet was having a positive impact.
So from 2009-2013 that sunny optimism continued though not as intensely as from 2005-2007 which was the peak, but you knew change was coming, you knew we on the verge of something big.
What we didn't know is what it would turn out to be is people going insane and a massive, powerful movement dedicated tirelessly to wiping out all social norms, morality and decency in the world.
It just feels so insane, like something from an apocalyptic movie or book.
I feel like a lot of this happened because corrupt elites feared the positive potential of the digital age would mean game over for them and have done everything in their power to misdirect things, at the same time, it almost seems baked into the system, what is Woke faggotry if not the step by step evolution of what you used to see on LiveJournal 20 years ago? From LJ to Tumblr to Twitter, cross pollinating with things like the bitter as fuck cynicism of Something Awful?
Say whatever you will about what was specifically going on in the 2000s, but what you had was reasonable hope that while things might be bad now, we might turn a corner into a much better future, you could still have faith that most people were good, it's almost impossible to see the future as anything but a hell on earth or the whole system collapsing like a rotten wooden structure.
Grand Theft Auto III to GTA San Andreas blew everyone's minds, everyone expected the next generation to deliver an experience that was just as much of a quantum leap and it never really arrived, GTAIV looked better but was back to one city and no countryside, so it couldn't help but feel like a bit of a downgrade, GTAV brought back the countryside but was still one city, never again did the series make your jaw drop as much as SA's seemingly impossible sense of scale did.
Meanwhile the potential of the internet seemed insane, YouTube was insane, all of a sudden information could be thrillingly free and seemed destined to steer humanity into a better direction.
The cracks started to show with the Great Recession but hey look, we just elected the first black President! Obama seemed at the very least a step in the right direction and proof the internet was having a positive impact.
So from 2009-2013 that sunny optimism continued though not as intensely as from 2005-2007 which was the peak, but you knew change was coming, you knew we on the verge of something big.
What we didn't know is what it would turn out to be is people going insane and a massive, powerful movement dedicated tirelessly to wiping out all social norms, morality and decency in the world.
It just feels so insane, like something from an apocalyptic movie or book.
I feel like a lot of this happened because corrupt elites feared the positive potential of the digital age would mean game over for them and have done everything in their power to misdirect things, at the same time, it almost seems baked into the system, what is Woke faggotry if not the step by step evolution of what you used to see on LiveJournal 20 years ago? From LJ to Tumblr to Twitter, cross pollinating with things like the bitter as fuck cynicism of Something Awful?
Say whatever you will about what was specifically going on in the 2000s, but what you had was reasonable hope that while things might be bad now, we might turn a corner into a much better future, you could still have faith that most people were good, it's almost impossible to see the future as anything but a hell on earth or the whole system collapsing like a rotten wooden structure.
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hey @Stoner Metal (post too long to quote)
So if I understand that right, "oversocialization" means too many "social rules"?
So if I understand that right, "oversocialization" means too many "social rules"?
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Compared to the last 5-10 years? Maybe a little but not much. I was born in 84 and I miss the 80's. I wasn't even old enough to really experience the 80's. I just know what I see in movies, old TV shows and video games. I guess I could say the 90's but the 90's were a pretty shitty decade as well. Like most millennial adults I miss the time when I was a kid. That's only because they made life so shitty for adults, they wish they were kids again. That has to be the most sad thing ever. We all sat around waiting for the day we would be adults and it's a total shit show. No decent paying jobs can't afford to have a family and you end being broke most of your life. What a shit show.
Do I miss the 2000's? Not really.
No one was optimistic about the first nigger president. Though I didn't see much optimism in the early and mid 2000's either. I was still in high school then. I didn't get out of there till 2003. I think that's when a lot of Millennials started becoming less optimistic. I imagine it wasn't much better for the Gen X people that had already been out of high school by then. The economy was shit then and it's always been shit. It just hasn't gotten any better. It's downward slide. You could go over the reasons why all day because there are many. But no one really though having a nigger as president was going to change anything. Only dumbass normies believed that shit.
Do I miss the 2000's? Not really.
GTA SA might have had countryside. But it was all just empty unused space. It never got used for anything just some side stuff. As far as SA being multiple cities it was more like one big city cut into 3 different sections of a map. They just made each section look different. Other than the stupid nigger shit that I had a higher tolerance for back then it was a fun game. But it wasn't that mind blowing. Those old GTA games could pull off stuff that the newer ones didn't or couldn't because they weren't that graphically impressive. Just look at the physics engine in GTA IV. GTA 3-SA never had that level of physics. They certainly didn't have the details either. SA made a big deal out players being able to shoot gas tanks and blow up the cars and I think it was used in one mission. In GTA 5 you could shoot certain parts of the cars and gas would run out of them and you could shoot the gas to ignite it. You could shoot the guns out of people's hands in GTA IV. The newer games looked better and had details the older games didn't. Though the details were minor. But a lot of people don't talk about them. There are even more small details like this in RDR2. That game is nothing but countryside but it's not all completely empty. There is usually something you can do all over the map. But in SA you could go stand out in the countryside and there isn't anything to do. The countryside in GTA V was pretty much the same way. You could go out there but there wasn't much to do.
No one was optimistic about the first nigger president. Though I didn't see much optimism in the early and mid 2000's either. I was still in high school then. I didn't get out of there till 2003. I think that's when a lot of Millennials started becoming less optimistic. I imagine it wasn't much better for the Gen X people that had already been out of high school by then. The economy was shit then and it's always been shit. It just hasn't gotten any better. It's downward slide. You could go over the reasons why all day because there are many. But no one really though having a nigger as president was going to change anything. Only dumbass normies believed that shit.
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Kind of. Oversocialization is being so mentally assimilated into society and the rules of society that you cannot even think about rebelling against those rules without feeling guilt, anxiety, etc. Someone who is so deep into the social collective that they cannot think thoughts that go against the societal norms without psychological distress.
I guess an example would be when you have the ultra-liberal white parents of a white child who is raped and murdered by a gang of black kids. These parents go on TV and tearfully apologize to the black community for the fact that their daughter was murdered. Because after all, the daughters death will end up creating more distrust of blacks, more racism and that is a bad thing that they must apologize for.
The white parents actions are the result of accepting and internalizing the worldview that says that whites are the bad guys and blacks are always the victims. The oversocialization comes into play in that they are so assimilated into society and this worldview that they cannot think that maybe the blacks are the bad ones here, if they even began to think that they would feel immense guilt for even entertaining such thoughts.
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ofc i miss the 2000s, it's the entire reason why i still continue to play OG Xbox and GameCube while not so much being interested in next gen games. that nostalgia just hits
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No wonder "weird" or "cringe" or "problematic" can be such an insult or dirty word to many, and modern urban "society" seems cult-y.
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At this point, Ametican society (and arguably most Western societies) are on parity with Japan in how mentally dull and enslaved most people are to the cultural norms and mores of the masses. It's not that I don't believe we shouldn't have any, but the ypunger generations have no concept of self apart from some group or "community" due to social media telling them they need to be popular or otherwise enslave themselves to popular opinion in order to be liked. I even see it in my church a lot and it's quite sad actually. These people might be functional adults, but they will never truly live life and that's quite depressing. I may be wrong, but as someone born in 1996, I saw the shift with my very own eyes in college from Gen Xers and millenials that acted like genuine people to this zoomer bullshit in the span of a year from 2017-2018. Anyways, back on topic, yeah I miss the 2000s. I can't say it was perfect, but nerdy havens weren't trampled upon by normalfags and I could go out and meet like-minded people IRL with amount of some work and hang out with them (bot to mention finding cute girla to hang out with being less of a nightmare as well), but it wasn't a logistic nightmare as it is now. Frankly, social media has been a travesty for the human race. I don't see why normalfags swear by this shit.
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What if "social media" was invented to lead to Current Year conformity on purpose?
At least the Japanese haven't gone full Clown World like the West has - at least not yet.
there should be an option to delete a post on the lower left
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Since this was a fucking triple post (Fuck), I might as well add some more grievances I see in the younger generations. They are unavle to criticize their heroes at all. They are either heckin' based or massive cring or some gay shit like that. They rwally have no sense of nuance. Sure there are some people that are literal saints and heroea and some that are irredeemanly evil. But most people fall in the middle, between one extreme or the other. Plus, I've noticed most of their heroes are people that are streamers or some shit like that. No saints like St. Therese of Lisieux; no everyday men doing extrodinary things like Gahndi, Neil Peart (or the other dudes in Rush really but especially him), Richard Feynman, etc. It's always just some lame ass grifting on youtube or Twitch. I don't technology is necessisarily bad but the way we use it is beyond stupid. I'm not saying it should only be for studying and research, but I think under-utilize it.
I think it's more of the case that it started off relatively harmless but as moneied interests got into it, it became more explicitly anti-human and a tool to enslave the masses to put it bluntly.
Maybe. It's been awhile since I've checked up on Japan, but I still think it's getting worse over time. The demographics problem and the general refusal to do anything to solve it is fucking peak Japan to me.
I tried looking for a delete option but all it says is that I can edit posts. Maybe it's a newfag filter or something. I'll be more careful about posting in the future. Is there anyway I can get in contact with a mod to fix this? This was a genuine fuckup on my network's end.
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As I've mentioned before, a new issue appeared in 2020: the constant wearing of "face masks" even when not sick, unlike before coronapanic. I've read that it could become an integral part of Japanese ways long after any coof scare is over. Everyone always wearing "face masks" can be mentally unhealthy, especially for developing children...
With "social media", I've heard that it was deliberately designed to be addictive. Any other dark purposes shouldn't be a surprise. And then there's that Google "The Selfish Ledger" leak, which I think could be "social engineering" via manipulated search results.
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As someone who was born in 1997, you're fucking spot on when it comes social media. Sad thing is, you're expected to have one and if not, people look like you like you're fucking crazy or something.
The problem with zoomers from my experience is, they look at the world in a very black and white lense without realizing it's just a bunch of grey. Then again, it is hard to think critically when your prefrontal cortex is getting bombed by dopamine hits every second of the day.
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I don't care about that, and I never hopped on the "social madia" bandwagon.
(I still remember when it kind of started in the '00s with Myspace and early Facebook, but it really took off in the '10s.)
More evidence that "social media" is what enabled Clown World? And why Current Year media feels "watered down" and "smartphone-y"?
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Yes because almost everyone I loved died then and I've been dead since.
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Ok gramps
Hard disagree. The issue with the west is that the economic elite is one sided while the general population is split on many issues. However, the elite does their best to shape and silence public opinion while still moving inside a de jure definition of free speech.
Wearing face masks was pretty common to wear in east-Asia when commuting, both to protect oneself and others from disease as a form of communal care and responsibility.
Hey, here is a thing I miss about the 2000s:
I miss thinking behaviour such as a above was crazy. But after experiencing what it feels like to have the violent behaviour of arabs and africans be considered equal responsibility of natives, while the economic elite tries to all but criminalise denying so, I REALLY miss wanting to take on such communal responsibility.
Programs lifting up impoverished citizens? Freeing them from drug addiction? Giving money to bad schools. I would support it if it meant giving money to natives who would benefit. But I will not give a single cent to arabs because they'll gobble it up, come to nothing for it and demand more.
It wont happen. At least not like how it did in the west. The current state of the west is a result of its elites who themselves came into their current form due to a conscious effort from a political movement to become teachers, journalists and artists.
The Japanese elite knows that. It something like the west happens, it will be far slower, more controlled and for those reasons, may manage to create an actually successful multicultural society.
For now, its more likely that China will militarily occupy Japan and east-Asia. Or maybe that a significant population of Japan will come to consists of various east-asian immigrants. And so what? All of them have slanted eyes and eat rice. Big difference.
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Yes.
It was the last time sadboi music was actually fun. Music about wanting to kill yourself didn't make you want to kill yourself. It actually felt optimistic. You can shit on the scene movement but I will take MCR and Three Days Grace anyday over any of the depressed shit now. A lot of the popular top 40 music was actually fun, too. I even grew up listening to country and still like a lot of it from that time.
I miss the time when nobody ever thought Youtube was ever something they'd ever make money off of and just had fun making videos. The fact that Brad Jones used to make videos about E.T pornos and that shit could be on Youtube is sacred to me. No thumbnail edits. No drama channels. No five hour long essay videos on anime or films. A million Naruto AMVs. People doing cringey shit before the term cringe was even publicly used. A buffering circle of death that would never load. It was perfect.
Netflix having a million random shitty horror movies to choose from and being sent a random dvd from their subscription service every other week.
Cable channels also just seemed more... fun. There was basically no original content on those channels at the time so if you were up at 2 in the morning on a tuesday you were probably just going to watch a shitty 90s' straight-to-dvd action movie or an undiscovered gem.
Minorities were just people. The dating sphere seemed less nightmarish. Social interaction seemed less machiavelian.
It was the last unapologetic decade. The best way I can put it is people spent less time thinking about their thoughts. Of course I was very young at the time so I could be considered biased. But I would take it anyday over the past 10 years. The world didn't end in 2012 but it damn well should have.
I do wonder if 20 years from now in a hopefully less gay earth if there will be a huge influx of 2000s' nostalgia/tribute films the way the last 70s and 80s had films that were throwbacks to the 50s and early 60s.
It was the last time sadboi music was actually fun. Music about wanting to kill yourself didn't make you want to kill yourself. It actually felt optimistic. You can shit on the scene movement but I will take MCR and Three Days Grace anyday over any of the depressed shit now. A lot of the popular top 40 music was actually fun, too. I even grew up listening to country and still like a lot of it from that time.
I miss the time when nobody ever thought Youtube was ever something they'd ever make money off of and just had fun making videos. The fact that Brad Jones used to make videos about E.T pornos and that shit could be on Youtube is sacred to me. No thumbnail edits. No drama channels. No five hour long essay videos on anime or films. A million Naruto AMVs. People doing cringey shit before the term cringe was even publicly used. A buffering circle of death that would never load. It was perfect.
Netflix having a million random shitty horror movies to choose from and being sent a random dvd from their subscription service every other week.
Cable channels also just seemed more... fun. There was basically no original content on those channels at the time so if you were up at 2 in the morning on a tuesday you were probably just going to watch a shitty 90s' straight-to-dvd action movie or an undiscovered gem.
Minorities were just people. The dating sphere seemed less nightmarish. Social interaction seemed less machiavelian.
It was the last unapologetic decade. The best way I can put it is people spent less time thinking about their thoughts. Of course I was very young at the time so I could be considered biased. But I would take it anyday over the past 10 years. The world didn't end in 2012 but it damn well should have.
I do wonder if 20 years from now in a hopefully less gay earth if there will be a huge influx of 2000s' nostalgia/tribute films the way the last 70s and 80s had films that were throwbacks to the 50s and early 60s.