Snowflake Eliza Bleu/Knows/Cuts/Siep / Eliza Ann Morthland - Queen grifter, "Human Trafficking Survivor Advocate", ex-Gerard Way stalker/girlfriend, friend of Jeffree Star, Elon Musk's pet, perfect example of the Streisand Effect

[Brickleberry NationalPark]

As part of digging out some Carl pictures, I saw that Eliza had run a GiveSendGo fundraiser for her to start her podcast. The goal was $5,000, which she met. The last archive.org capture on May 9 2021 had her at $5,205. Adam Crigler created the fundraiser; it seems he used to be associated with Tim Pool, before Crigler was accused of sexual assault.
(web.archive.org, archive.ph)

I don't recall any claims of sexual assault against Crigler, at most there was some argument between Lydia (former producer for timcastirl) and him. She ran to Tim and claimed he yelled at her and there is the story. Though this isn't the thread for his history.

Anyways to add information, Crigler states that he thought he was friends with Eliza and thus would defend his friends and help his friends. With all the censorship he came out and said he is not okay with that and still isn't sure about her story. The more she censors the less her story seems credible. He told his story of leaving TimCast I think roughly 2 years after the event. The video is roughly 6 hours long.. 2x speed will be saving grace, it's slow.

 

[Geranium]

From the Michael Malice interview (I'm transcribing parts of it at the moment). I've never seen other anti-sex-trafficking advocates laugh so much while describing people being exploited.

Edit: This video is a real slog, so I took a break and saw that Red State had "unpublished" their article about Eliza (it now returns a 404), and Manuel Delfango, who had a widely cited (if somewhat inaccurate) thread about Eliza, has been permanently banned from Twitter.

The Red State article was mostly about the Twitter drama and wasn't even that good. Two archives of it: (web.archive.org, archive.ph)

(twitter.com, archive.ph)

(twitter.com, archive.ph)


Manuel wasn't the first (maybe this was) but whatever.
(twitter.com, archive.ph)

I look forward to Null posting the inevitable legal letter shortly after this thread leaves the Prospering Grounds.

May 27 2021 - Michael Malice, "Your Welcome" interview, "Eliza Bleu - On Surviving - ”YOUR WELCOME” with Michael Malice #156 - YouTube" (archive)

Just the audio below for file-size reasons, as the interview is 90 minutes long. Linked timestamps go to the right place in the YouTube video.

This is the interview where Eliza is wearing the tiara. She does her thing of trying to butter up her interviewer in quite a gauche way at the start. I've also noticed that in her interviews she has a habit of deflecting away from the detail of topics. When asked for details about her own experience, she typically says that it's a long story, would take hours to get into, etc. In this interview she says how "nuanced" a crime human-trafficking is, and then just gives the soundbite version you'd find on any NGO's website. Perhaps I've just become jaded after watching so many of her interviews, but I'm convinced it's a deliberate tactic so that she can just stick to the easy talking points.

This is also the interview where she gets asked about "being trafficked on Twitter". It's funny; she starts off with a more or less reasonable answer of her traffickers using Twitter to draw in potential punters, but then when pushed she just blabs about how "Twitter makes a cut off of all of our Twitters".

Eliza doesn’t give a narrative account of her story in this interview, but two bits stood out to me, where she says:

• "I’ve found they (her traffickers), there was a website, (looks offscreen to the left) actually maybe I shouldn’t talk about it, probably I’ll leave that out". It made me wonder if there was someone else in the room who warned her away from giving a detail that could be easily disproven.
• "I keep this part of my life separate from my parents. We don’t talk about it, ever, EVER. It’s a very sensitive topic, because I’m very close with my family." If true, perhaps she didn’t try the con on her parents, and they got a rude awakening recently.

[00:01:34] First, uh, I wanted to congratulate you on your book … Can we just talk … I mean OK (giggling) look I know the topic is very serious but let's talk about, can we *please* talk about how awesome your book is doing for a second. (Malice: No, we're talking about human trafficking)

[00:02:27] In my particular case I am a survivor, I was trafficked domestically here in the United States, and I am a United States citizen. So, that's kind of, it was sex-trafficking in my particular case.

[00:04:56] I was trafficked on Twitter as well, so there's been three profiles to my knowledge that my former abusers made to traffic me on Twitter. I didn't realise 'cause I kinda just signed up for Twitter in late 2019, so it was one of the last few days of 2019 that I signed up for Twitter.

[00:05:12] (Q: So what does that mean that they trafficked you on Twitter, how can someone traffic you if they're not in contact with you?) Yeah, so, the way that that was working, I didn't know about the profiles existing because I wasn't on Twitter, and I wasn't looking for them. The way that my former abusers were doing it is that it was going back to my Instagram, the Twitter accounts were linking back to my Instagram, and they were trafficking me off Instagram, Backpage, sugar-daddy websites. Whatever type of Internet trafficking was what was happening.

[00:05:37] I'll go into more detail. So it looks like a profile, in my particular case, the profiles look like profiles that would be me, but trying to entice business to sell me, bringing it back to my Instagram where they were doing business.

[00:05:56] Fortunately for me, in my particular case, there are no nude images or videos of me on Twitter, thank god, right now, the day is young I guess. But it would go back to my Instagram to traffic me, sell me, without my full consent and without my knowledge. When I joined Twitter an ex-boyfriend actually pointed out the first profile; after I pointed it out to Twitter it took them 3.5 months to take it down. The second profile took five days … and then the third profile the platform has refused to take down.

[00:06:35] (Q: I don't understand. So someone creates a fake profile of you, there's photographs of you, how are they monetising this? Is Twitter getting a cut? What's literally happening?) Yes, so Twitter makes a cut off of all of our Twitters based off of advertising sales and data sales, so any profile that's on Twitter, they get a cut of it. So they get a cut of it

[00:07:00] So they could say to, Pepsi, Coca-Cola, whomever they're doing business with, we have this many active users on our platform. So in essence you and I are definitely making them money. When it's a free platform, we are the product.

[00:07:12] (Q: But how are these people who are using your images making money themselves?) So, right, it would depend. So my trafficking situation would be a little bit different from what we're going to talk about with the children. So in my particular case, they're impersonation profiles that would have led back to them selling me to do business. So they would lure somebody in with the profile, like "oh this is a pretty girl", blah blah blah.

[00:07:49] They would lure somebody in, direct the business back to, I'm assuming, either a dating profile or, uh … kind of like when you see folks saying "Click this for my nudes" or whatever, they would send them back to my other profiles, platforms, I guess, who knows? 'cause I can't see inside the DMs, so I don't know what's going inside on the DMs on the backend. But I have been able, with an organisation, to sort of track some of the use of these profiles and some of the communication back with the other profiles, and it's really scary.

[00:08:28] So, uh, it would be somewhere where they would contact to do some kind of "business" and then take it somewhere else. Now what does scare me about those profiles still being active is that my abusers are still free, so they could be using my image to contact survivors, that are already more vulnerable of course for trafficking or abuse. They could be using those profiles to traffic other women, that's the truth.

[00:09:23] I've found they, there was a website, (looks offscreen to the left) actually maybe I shouldn't talk about it, probably I'll leave that out

[00:09:30] But, yeah, there's a lot of things that go on, and now more than ever I am terrified because survivors are already vulnerable, because they've already been trafficked, that they are using my name and likeness to contact our most vulnerable.

[00:09:45] Especially they could say "Hey, I've been on these shows", oh and get the victim or survivor to trust them, and say "Oh come out and live with me", especially minors, because minors fall prey to this really easily.

[00:10:18] So when they were trafficking me they would have tried to get business that way, now there's no way to get business unless they're using it for some other type of business.

[00:10:40] When I went to a national organisation, I said "Hey I'm being trafficked on Twitter", cause nobody could help me, I went to the police department, I went all over the place.

[00:11:34] (Laughs) It's a lot, (laughs) it's really intense isn't it?

[00:16:33] Unfortunately in my case, so when we go back and talk a little bit about my case, my case so because it's not so explicit on Twitter I would have a more difficult time suing Twitter.

[00:16:43] But, after I learned about John Doe 1 and now John Doe 2's case (who are suing Twitter), my own story sort of took a backseat. Y'know, I was kind of like: "Whoa! This is a thing! OK!"

[00:29:05] (Malice: Most people don't know what these images would look like and they don't want to start thinking about them.) You don't want to, I mean, depending on my particular mental state, at the time, when I witnessed child sexual abuse material it will knock me out for three days, like it will really jack me up.

[00:35:56] I still had a cell phone the whole time I was being trafficked.

[00:36:26] I was legit this close to death like so many times.

[00:45:05] There's some many nails on a chalkboard when it comes to being a survivor. First and foremost, people don't believe survivors. … There's nothing worse than getting ready to tell the worst parts of your life imaginable and not being believed. It's not easy, I'm not going to say that people haven't lied, I know somebody's going to be in the comments like "Some people lie", yeah, I also believe in due process.

[00:49:13] I'm at my parents house right now because they have the wifi on the farm, long story. I live in a different house. My dad came home early from work to mow, and I had to make sure, I'm trying to make sure that he stays out of the house because I keep this part of my life separate from my parents. We don't talk about it, ever, EVER. It's a very sensitive topic, because I'm very close with my family.

[00:49:51] So just imagine, all through 2020, all this time, all this stuff you've seen me have the ability to do, my parents don't know. Because it's just something we don't talk about.

[00:52:15] In my particular case, I was sold as a teenager. There was no real grey area, that was the first time.

 

[Ike Aim]

She won but the cost might have destroyed her story - as someone says, "the grift is over".

She's not grifting the people in the comments section, though. Her grift is targeted at entire institutions. That's what the jealous, indignant YouTubers (1/3 of the comments in your screencap) don't get about this. It fundamentally isn't like Jack Murphy. Jack Murphy looked the image of a "manosphere" grifter working a grift on men. This bitch looks (and behaves) like she was freshly MKULTRA'd.

Nobody knows what Twitter's private position on Eliza is or how they're invested or who they may or may not be interested in and how. Nobody knows who or what they may be protecting and why. Institutions do not think and behave like people. They aren't people. There are too many unknown unknowns and while it's probably ok for the public personas who have already been involved with her to express concerns over her story to some extent, smart people who have had contact with her in the media are either cautiously acknowledging the gaps in her story - vaguely tooling around the edges leaving her wide berth to "correct" herself - or completely ignoring it all-together. Why? Until that is known, best for people with something to lose to tread carefully and leave the heavy-lifting to proxies.

Spoiler: In this game, when you're that exposed to taking L's, you gotta know what the shot is before you take it.

Manuel wasn't the first (maybe this was) but whatever.
(twitter.com, archive.ph)

I look forward to Null posting the inevitable legal letter shortly after this thread leaves the Prospering Grounds.

TUG's take here is fucking stupid. It's like getting upset that the actor hired to rep KFC isn't a real Kentucky Colonel. This dizzy fucker wants integrity in thottery? Who gives a fuck? Bomb the jungle. Traffic all the women, Piss world 2025. Is it fun and amusing for us to unravel her story? Sure. For them, though? They have gay online "content creator" rackets to run. Now, the one's who believe they need to blow this up are fully involved in massive cope because what they thought was going to be a clout-rich environment turned into a potential ban-spiral and all because they have incredibly distorted perceptions of their own importance coupled with woefully incomplete situational awareness.

The Red State article was mostly about the Twitter drama and wasn't even that good. Two archives of it: (web.archive.org, archive.ph)

Meanwhile, more of the quasi-professional internet commentariat continue to back out of the room slowly. Hello? Ho's be trippin and this ho glows.

[Twitter][Archive]

May 27 2021 - Michael Malice, "Your Welcome" interview

Notice how Michael Malice, the prancing Jewish homosexual so fond of the term "midwit", masterfully demonstrates how not to behave like a Venti- TUG- or Hambly-tier "midwit". You can always tell when quick-witted people get caught up in a mess and have to lie because they act innocently confused. Malice doesn't believe her story. He probably grasps what he's dealing with immediately. But he doesn't say he doesn't believe her. Nor does he mirror her and start babbling in an attempt to turn her invented reality into their shared reality, thus "solving" the disconnect. He scowls and acts confused and in his mind a million billion possibilities are spun atop dreidels as he works-out how to finish the interview and extricate himself while preserving his own credibility.

 

[Geranium]

Malice doesn't believe her story. He probably grasps what he's dealing with immediately.

Malice is by far the best interviewer of all the Eliza Bleu interviews I've gone through. I had the same thought while watching his interview with her, but then I went on Twitter and he was palling around with Eliza for long after that interview took place.

Anyway, here's another one from the Viva Frei YouTube Channel. Audio below purely for my convenience; the whole video is two hours long, but in the end only the first half hour is relevant to my interest in cataloguing Eliza's various versions of her trafficking story.

This is another from the "groomed for two years" dimension. She says her childhood was spent partly in Denver and partly in southern Illinois, which was new to me but makes sense as I have a background report on Richard Morthland which shows him selling two properties in Thorton CO and Westminster CO in early 1993 and late 1994. They're in the Denver metropolitan area and seem like pretty normal surburban places, which undermines her claim of farmgirl naïveté a little.

She also claims both of her parents have doctorates (Ballotpedia suggests Richard Morthland has a PhD from the Denver Seminary; her mother's supposed epidemiology PhD I can't find evidence for in a quick search).

Also says that her "parents dropped me off" in Los Angeles, not just her dad. Says she thinks the duration of her first "trafficking" was two weeks.

2021-07-07: "Sidebar with Eliza Bleu - Viva & Barnes Live - YouTube" (archive)

[00:07:39] (Q: You were … homeschooled as a child?) Yeah I was homeschooled as a child, I have one sister, she's married. Unfortunately she doesn't live here but she's the mother of my two favourite people on the planet, my nephew and niece.

[00:07:55] (Q: And was that southern Illinois?) Yeah, it's uh, we're from Illinois but we grew up in Denver. So, I sort of grew up a little bit in a couple of different spots.

[00:08:05] (Q: And homeschooled all the way through?) Yeah, they tried to put us in public school, I went to public school for driver's ed and typing. And they tried a couple times to get us to do school but I just, it never sat well with me … I didn't seem to fit in.

[00:08:26] I feel really fortunate that I was homeschooled because my parents focused on things that maybe my sister and I would be better at and didn't necessarily focus on other things. So sometimes I was better at spelling, reading, writing, things like that, or math even, but I'm really good in other ways. … My sister and I are both really creative.

[00:09:02] (Q: If you're parents are homeschooling you, did they work?) They kind of took turns. My dad — I try not to give too much information about my family because I just don't want to be stalked — so my dad would work at night at the beginning of my sister and I's life, he worked for a radio station, so he did the overnight shift.

[00:09:35] Both of my parents are really well educated, they both have doctorates. My mom has her doctorate in epidemiology and my dad, um, I'm trying to think if it's in theology or public speaking.

[00:10:37] The Vans Warped Tour is a punk rock music festival tour that tours all around the United States.

[00:10:57] My parents were absolutely incredible at raising my sister and I, but we were a little bit sheltered …

[00:11:27] I really wanted to get off the farm … really wanted to do anything other than be on the farm, which I thought was super lame.

[00:11:46] I went to this Vans Warped Tour, I met a photographer there, he told me that I could be a model and a star, and I believed him. He was from Los Angeles, so because I was homeschooled I graduated early, and that's where the initial trafficking situation happened.

[00:12:53] (Q: Why did your parents do the homeschooling?) They didn't trust the school system back then to do a good job. … and my sister and I were a handful.

[00:13:57] I'm so glad that they did that (homeschool) because we have a good relationship, we have a good bond.

[00:16:13] (Q: When you're talking of your own experience … this was an experience where people obtained compromising photographs … that were being used for monetary purposes, or you as a physical body human being?) Yeah, so, sometimes I get really bad at explaining things … sometimes I do a really horrible job of explaining.

[00:17:01] I was sex-trafficked. I was sold for sex at age 17 in West Hollywood, in California. The initial set of folks that brought me out there for a modelling contract, and to be a rock star, sold me the dream. I told my parents: "I'm going with your without your permission" and I said: "If you stop me from going I will never speak to you again" and I meant it at the time.

[00:17:23] So I went out to Los Angeles, with the help of my parents, and they knew where I was, I got an apartment and I was going out there to be a star. Within a matter of a few hours I was having a beer, I wasn't used to drinking

[00:17:40] Right away the beer was introduced, once I was tipsy then the drugs were introduced, and after the drugs were introduced then started grooming behaviour, I won't get too specific or explicit.

[00:17:52] But then I was, I don't want to say addicted to the drugs, because it was easy for me to get off the drugs once they weren't around, but once I was addicted to the drugs, I was sold for $500 to an older gentleman in the hills, in the Hollywood Hills, for sex.

[00:18:09] So that was the first time that I was trafficked.

[00:18:19] So after that, luckily, I was sex-trafficked but only with that one individual. I think I was such a handful … that he ended up giving me back, and then I was left for dead on a drug overdose in a hallway.

[00:18:36] I got out, I was left for dead, that was probably the best-case scenario of how that could have ended, I'm very grateful it ended that way because the other options probably would have been worse.

[00:18:48] I think I was so difficult because I didn't want to do anything, sometimes abusers will get victims and try to get them to do things in different ways. I was super not compliant. I was a difficult one.

[00:19:33] (Q: What does grooming actually look like in real life?) Everyone's grooming experience is different. In this case … I say that the grooming started right when we met at the Vans Warped Tour.

[00:19:47] I was very young, I was 15, and it took them two years to actually get me out to Los Angeles. That's how long they dedicated this time to grooming.

[00:20:32] It was starting to be implanted in my head that it was my fault, that it was my idea, who was I going to talk to, the police weren't my friend.

[00:21:08] (As in, no-one's going to believe you as you must have consented to this?) Yep, you're a drug addict, you're nothing but a … you're only good for your body, this was your decision, you decided to come out here.

[00:21:34] It was a multi-tier-level of just trauma input on top of each other.

[00:21:39] At the time I was scared, I was hungry - because I was also very thin back then, I was scared, I was very hungry, I was tired, I was traumatised and terrified.

[00:23:33] I did have a trafficker that did beat me up … I got free that initial time, awesome, cool, I never had an opportunity to deal with that trauma.

[00:24:04] Even when I went to the emergency room during the overdose I didn't turn anyone in, I didn't say anything, I was treated like a minor drug addict in West Hollywood, which wouldn't be that weird, I guess.

[00:24:19] Because I never really dealt with it, because I was too embarrassed and really didn't know what happened, that initial trauma was there.

[00:24:25] And I chose to go back to the adult entertainment lifestyle later in life and ended up being trafficked again. So there's a moment there where I was willing, and at a second point in my life I stopped being willing again.

[00:24:40] My second trafficker, a pimp … that was a little bit of a different style where I faced more physical abuse in a more prolonged period of time, where I had an extreme trauma bond with my abuser, and Stockholm Syndrome.

[00:25:33] (Q: Your experience in Hollywood, how long does that go on for?) The first time I had an overdose, and I think it was probably a couple weeks, but I don't remember a lot about that … I'm gratefully a lot of it is splotchy and blocked out.

[00:25:53] I mean I was on drugs. I remember specific things. I remember enough, let's put it that way, but fortunately I don't remember everything.

[00:26:13] But I think it was two weeks, but I literally don't know, only probably my mom would know, because I came back to Illinois after I went to Cedars-Sinai.

[00:26:25] So my parents dropped me off, I was trafficked right away, I ended up with an overdose at Cedars-Sinai, then I flew back home then I actually went back to Los Angeles after that.

[00:26:42] Fortunately I was able to get right off the drugs, but the damage on my life was bad.

[00:27:24] The second time, it was a little bit more presented like an opportunity to … well I thought I had a boyfriend.

[00:27:36] It starts off very small … it was presented like I was part of a team …

[00:28:59] I went back to him to him so many times … it started off with the first time that I left, I had contacted an organisation in Chicago, I was in Chicago, contacted an organisation through email.

[00:29:22] I had gotten their information off of a bible, off of a little bible that I had gotten - I still have it which is pretty cool - their email was on the back of a bible …

[00:29:37] I emailed them, asked for that, and she came and moved me out right away, I was moved to a survivor safe house.

[00:29:48] Unfortunately those trauma bonds were so deep that I actually left three months into the programme, it's a two-year programme, and I went right back.

Apologies for double posting (again!), but finished going through another interview. Just one more to do (the Zuby one of November 2021) then I'll post about the various versions of her story. She doesn’t talk about her story on the Zuby interview, so I’ll look at the summary next.

2021-05-12: "#41 Eliza Bleu- Human Trafficking Survivor and Advocate | Chatting with Candice" (archive)

Full version of this 1h45m, clip below is just the 15 minutes from 15m to 30m, so bear that in mind for the timestamps below, which are correct for the whole video.

Mostly the same as other interviews, though Eliza says that as an adult, "first I wanted to be a cocktail server, I wanted to be a cocktail server at a gentleman's club", which I don't think has been mentioned elsewhere. Honestly I just think she made that up with that because the host used to be a porn performer and it was Eliza's way of building a rapport by saying "I partly chose to do this too as something you might recognise".

[00:16:31] So my story, I was homeschooled, and I was groomed at age 15. I went to a concert, the Vans Warped Tour in Chicago, and I had a driver's permit, thought I was cool, went to the Vans Warped Tour and met a photographer there, and the photographer spent five uh two years grooming me, I don't know where five came from, 15 was probably in my head, but two years grooming me.

[00:17:03] I actually went to Los Angeles to do a photoshoot with the photographer, so everything seemed pretty legit. I moved to Los Angeles before I turned 18, just barely, because I graduated early because I was homeschooled.

[00:17:20] Within a few days of being there, I was promised the world, I was promised I was going to be a star …

[00:17:35] I was sex-trafficked right away. It started with a couple beers, went to drugs, I was trying to fit in, be cool, I wanted to impress everybody, show everybody that I was cool.

[00:17:54] Once I was on the drugs then I was sold.

[00:20:24] I overdosed on drugs, I was really difficult to deal with, my difficulty really kept my alive a lot.

[00:21:18] I actually willingly returned, later on in life … I had a different trafficker this time

[00:22:18] (The second time) I had decided to … well first I wanted to be a cocktail server, I wanted to be a cocktail server at a gentleman's club. I had been working VIP host and stuff like that.

[00:23:02] The year that I was trafficked as a teenager, was right around the time we had our first laws in the United States around human trafficking at all.

[00:23:19] So I went to go be a cocktail server at a gentleman's club. They said "We'll let you be a server here, but first you have to audition a dance." I did, it was great, it was great money.

[00:23:43] Unfortunately I hit a financial skids because I was new to that lifestyle, I didn't know that the money would ebb and flow, I thought it would always be like that.

[00:24:10] My second abuser was violent. That was a difference. I guess they were probably both, I think before I was a little bit more docile when I was a teenager, they didn't need to do too much to keep me at bay. The second one was a little bit more violent.

[00:27:25] What that looked like for me was like you have to do this, you have a quota, you're not allowed to do … and also I wasn't in control of who I saw when, any aspect of the situation, and none of the money was mine but my basic needs were met.

 

[Dr. Butt]

This woman is a very bad person.

 

[HisShadowX]

So looks like Eliza got a RedState Article taken down

https://twitter.com/thequartering/status/1620212792069611520?s=46&t=R5Gz37IwQShv6IngMwtgjg

https://web.archive.org/web/20230130000528/https://redstate.com/brutalbrittany/2023/01/27/activist-eliza-bleu-cancels-creators-appears-to-ramp-up-twitter-censorship-n694751

Someone made an interesting post could this be an intel operation? The power she has across the board doesn’t make sense otherwise. Plus her father being in politics makes her an excellent asset.

https://twitter.com/perpetualmaniac/status/1620225547795333121?s=46&t=R5Gz37IwQShv6IngMwtgjg

 

[anustart76]

Can someone explain to me how this woman became a "video vixen" or whatever the fuck? Do people really find this attractive? She doesn't look "hot" to me at all, she looks like that lesbian soccer player that won't shut up about sexism.

Also, I don't have it clipped, but on tonight's Timcast IRL episode, Tim did address a superchat asking about Bleu (the live chat was almost entirely asking about her), although all he said was he intended to have The Quartering on and he cancelled, and that he doesn't know anything about Bleu's past, but he did say he sent his reporter Shane Cashman (not sure on spelling) to look into it and interview people.
The video is here, timestamp 1:33:39 is where the Eliza Bleu mention is:

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

Ok. I always said never trust a woman with the bulldyke hairstyle, or one with blue hair.

One with both? Lads, the devil walks among us

 

[Geranium]

Someone made an interesting post could this be an intel operation? The power she has across the board doesn’t make sense otherwise. Plus her father being in politics makes her an excellent asset.

The tweet, by someone whose tin-foil hat has seriously disrupted their brainwaves:

(twitter.com, archive.ph)

Right place, right time. She's desperate to be famous, manages to craft a story around topics gaining mainstream prominence, lucks out/fucks up by focusing on Twitter at the time when Elon Musk takes over and he's looking for ways to discredit the previous management. She is hardly the first person to gain some amount of prominence and then be exposed as a total fraud.

The video is here, timestamp 1:33:39 is where the Eliza Bleu mention is:

Eliza’s claims about being trafficked as a teenager​

When did she meet the photographer?​

Eliza consistently says she met her first trafficker, a photographer, at a Vans Warped Tour concert in Chicago. Sometimes she explicitly says she was 15 (born May 1981) when she met the photographer at the gig, meaning it would have been 1996. The relevant 1996 concert was actually in Tinley Park, IL, not Chicago. But perhaps it’s close enough for non-locals to consider it Chicago. This was on July 21 1996 (archive).

However in her Tough Love interview, Eliza says that she "flew to Los Angeles not long after" the concert for a visit, and that she was 16 on her first trip to Los Angeles. "Not long" is obviously an elastic phrase, but presumably it wasn’t the 10+ months needed to pass between being age 15 at the concert and then turning 16 and flying to Los Angeles. It would make more sense that Eliza was 16 at the Vans Warped Tour concert, making it the July 18 1997 gig (archive)

How long was Eliza groomed for?​

In most versions of her story where she was 15 when she met the photographer, she says the photographer spent two years grooming her. That is, from the July 1996 concert until she moved to LA in Spring 1999. (Edit: I got this wrong and initially said 1998, but she says she was nearly 18 when she moved to LA, so it’s 1999 and the grooming period is like 2.5 years.)

However in her Tough Love interview, despite crediting her traffickers with "amazing grooming", she doesn’t mention this two-year preparation. Instead, she only says that on her trip to LA (with her mother) aged 16 she "was groomed for what would happen later".

How did she move to Los Angeles?​

In her Tough Love interview, Eliza says that "my father drove me out to Los Angeles". In her Viva Frei interview she says "my parents dropped me off". However, she also says in the Tough Love interview that she went back to LA so soon after being sex-trafficked "because I had moved there, my car was there".

The most generous interpretation I came up with after listening to the Tough Love interview was that perhaps her father drove her car to Los Angeles and then flew back. But then in the Viva Frei interview it’s now both parents and she was dropped off which suggests to me they drove their own car there with Eliza as a passenger. Presumably she wouldn’t have had time to buy a car in LA before being trafficked "right away".

How long after arriving in LA until being trafficked?​

Eliza’s usual phrase is that she was trafficked "right away" after getting to Los Angeles. In her Tough Love interview she says that "within 48 hours" of arriving in Los Angeles she was "addicted to a drug I only know as ice". In her Viva Frei interview she says she was given that infamous beer "within … a few hours". In her Chatting with Candice interview, Eliza says that she was trafficked "within a few days of being there".

What year was her teenage trafficking?​

Eliza has consistently said that she was sex-trafficked at age 17, shortly before her 18th birthday. That would put it in 1999.

However, she has also said that "the year that I was trafficked … was right around the time we had our first laws in the United States around human-trafficking" (Chatting with Candice), or that "the year that I was trafficked was the first year that the first law in the US was written against human-trafficking" (Epoch Times).

She doesn’t name the law but I believe she’s referring to the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act of 2000 (aka the Trafficking Victims Protection Act; archive). But that was only introduced as a Bill on November 8 1999, passed the Senate on July 27 2000, passed the House on October 6 2000, and was signed by President Clinton on October 28 2000.

With the Bill being introduced in 1999, and with her vagueness in her statement about it in her Chatting with Candice interview, this could be argued to be accurate, but to me it seems like a stretch.

Was Eliza a fighter?​

Eliza has claimed repeatedly that she was "difficult to deal with", which is why the "older gentleman" handed her back to the original trafficker.

• "I was pretty difficult to deal with, even at any stage of being trafficked, I think one thing that saved my life continuously was that I was really difficult to deal with. My consistent willingness to fight was what actually kept me alive." (Tough Love)
• "I was really difficult to deal with, my difficulty really kept my alive a lot." (Chatting with Candice)
• "I think I was so difficult because I didn’t want to do anything … I was super not compliant. I was a difficult one." (Viva Frei)

But if Eliza was "super not compliant" with her traffickers why did she:

• "within a couple hours" of returning to LA, contact "the same person who had done the original trafficking"? (Tough Love)
• say she was "more docile when I was a teenager, they didn’t need to do too much to keep me at bay" (Chatting with Candice)
• not "turn anyone in" when she was at "Cedars-Sinai" after having a drug overdose? (Also lol at picking the one hospital people outside of LA might recognise from TV shows.)

She likes to pin this on Stockholm Syndrome or "trauma bonds", but she says this whole period of being trafficked was just two weeks, and she was fighting her traffickers the whole time, causing one to lose money.

Who enticed Eliza to LA?​

Eliza’s typical story is that she met this photographer who lured her out to LA for modelling work:

• "I was promised a bogus modelling deal" (Dr Drew)
• "The initial set of folks that brought me out there for a modelling contract, and to be a rock star, sold me the dream." (Viva Frei)

But in her first interview (Tough Love) she said:

the same photographer that had assaulted me [on her trip to LA with her mother] introduced me to a high-profile musician. The high-profile musician said "come out to Los Angeles, we’ll start a music career, you’re going to be a model, you’re going to be a musician, you’re going to be famous."

In this story, it’s "the famous musician" giving her the infamous beer and then selling her to the "very older gentleman" for $500.

Why would a famous musician do anything for $500? Why could the "very older gentleman" who lived in the Hollywood Hills and ran a "trafficking ring, it was a prostitution trafficking ring for transgender folks … I remember it clearly" not pay more?

This high-profile musician has not been mentioned in any of her more recent interviews.

In the same Tough Love interview she also says, of her original traffickers: "I don’t even know where they are. I have absolutely no idea where they are." But she’d talked about the "high-profile musician" just 10 minutes before – surely a high-profile musician is not difficult to track down?

 

[Need4Sneed]

Katie, you know where to look.

 

[mailfrawd]

There are rumors circulating that Eliza might be working with NCOSE (https://endsexualexploitation.org/about/) and sending take-down notices through the FOSTA-SESTA act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSTA-SESTA). If this is true, I'm really looking forward to when this thread gets out of PG and Josh responds to the inevitable notice.

Eliza is likely claiming that the content she produced was used to sell sex services. Re:

Can someone explain to me how this woman became a "video vixen" or whatever the fuck? Do people really find this attractive?

The video she had made straight up looks like something she used to entice high-end clientele.

 

[Geranium]

[Tim Pool] did say he sent his reporter Shane Cashman to look into it and interview people

I'm sure Shane Cashman's article on Eliza will be hard-hitting journalism, definitely not a puff piece.


(twitter.com, archive.ph; twitter.com, archive.ph)

 

[ShitInMyMouth]

How do you go from being in the emo scene to hip hop gangsta slut? I hate schizo chameleon whores like that.

Pink did it but the opposite way around. Same haircut too.

 

[HisShadowX]

Heads up Farren Balance claims she will have a camera crew at Eliza’s fathers office. Someone is asking the right questions!

https://youtu.be/Vx8Hjdo8oG4

https://youtu.be/g88iHU0gPME

 

[Dr. Butt]

Katie, you know where to look.
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Katie's fast becoming a cow herself, with her arbitrarily contrarian "experiment to see what happens when we stop neutering dogs" series.

edited because I can't spell.

 

[Polish Businessman]

Tim Pool just deleted this tweet:

 

[Geranium]

Recording of a Twitter Space that Eliza held on December 14 2022 with Anny Donewald of Eve's Angels, and Annie Lobert of Hookers for Jesus.

(twitter.com, archive.ph)

This took place a couple of days after Eliza tweeted more concrete details (archive) about which organisation she contacted and when. Not listened to it myself yet but thought it was worth archiving here.

I came across this while looking through what Eliza had said in interviews about her second period being trafficked. While her accounts of the first period of trafficking are confused and inconsistent, her accounts of the second are just incredibly vague to the point where you can't really compare them. (But I'll still have a go this week.)

Edit: Listening to it now, got to this great moment, where she's talking about the pivotal night when she saw Annie Lobert on YouTube and contacted Anny Donewald's rescue organisation.

[00:08:34] So that night … (Q: What year are we talking about?) I would have to look it up, I tweeted it out the other day. Like, it was hard for me to find the exact year because, um, I tweeted out the year, I could look it up.

Previously Eliza has said that she kept the email she sent and often read it out at talks. Also, she's done the thing before of "Oh I'll have to check", particularly with dates, which to me just really smacks "I did my homework but I forgot to bring it to school today".

 

[HisShadowX]

Tim Pool just deleted this tweet:
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You shouldn’t be surprised, since there are people surprised about Tim I’ll let Tim’s sister talk about Tim…. https://youtube.com/shorts/E_Zf9ofZNw0?feature=share

Edit:

Cassandra Fairbanks has protected her tweets they are feeling the pressure

https://twitter.com/cassandrarules?s=21&t=nD8LrBcyKoX4Yqxs9SPMZA

 

[Public Disrespector]

There are rumors circulating that Eliza might be working with NCOSE (https://endsexualexploitation.org/about/) and sending take-down notices through the FOSTA-SESTA act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSTA-SESTA). If this is true, I'm really looking forward to when this thread gets out of PG and Josh responds to the inevitable notice.

Eliza is likely claiming that the content she produced was used to sell sex services. Re:

The video she had made straight up looks like something she used to entice high-end clientele.

The sex trade is so large in LA, no one actually wants to investigate it.

 

[Chocolate Wombat]

Great OP, 2023 off to a good start and holy shit, this lady is out of her fucking mind. She reminds me a lot of Amber Rose:



Eliza:



It's not a 1:1 looks-wise (though I suspect Eliza wishes it was) but it's very obvious who she's trying to emulate. Her "career" also follows the same trajectory; fucking a bunch of rappers to try and get famous. The difference is Amber was a bit more successful in the level of talent she was able to hook up with (Wiz Khalifa and Kanye West). But what's REALLY REALLY funny about all this to me is that Amber Rose is basically the Great Value Kim Kardashian (Walmart's brand, AKA "we have Kim K at home").

Eliza Bleu's whole gestalt is an even trashier knock off of a trashy knock off a reality TV whore who got famous for a sex tape with a rapper. Jesus wept, I don't know whether that's more funny or more sad.