Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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lol, once i found out that Dwarfs hat ebeing called midget, ad refer to it as "the M word". it is thier Nigger .
I trully thought it was like, just a different gens of dwarf.

anway.
WHO'DA THUNK
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I just gotta get this out of my system...

Even though I spent years in therapy and doing in-depth research on physical and emotional outcomes of top surgery, and wanted it ever since I learned about it, I never expected I could feel this way years post op.

Yes my dysphoria is a lot better now, but in exchange I started experiencing so much debilitating shame that has basically canceled out all the positives. I literally feel like I SHOULDN'T enjoy my body. It isn't just a feeling or just a thought, it's a core belief, and I even have a whole host of reasons to back it up.

Pre-op, in my pros and cons list, I struggled to envision significant cons other than complications. I did not foresee ever developing this mental state. I thought I had gotten rid of trans-related shame long ago. Over time, I have learned about acceptance in life, and I see now that I could have just coped with the potentially lifelong chest dysphoria. It would have even been easy compared to living with this... believing deep down that I should be ashamed post-op (but not pre-op).

In all my years of trans experience, I've never heard of anything like this happening suddenly POST transition. I see most people sharing how they are happy post-op, and I get confused. Like maybe this means there's a chance I don't have to feel this bad? But I believe in the most absolute sense that I should feel this bad. I know this post is upsetting and shitty, but therapy isn't helping and I feel completely hopeless.

[Note: I will not engage with comments suggesting I might not really be trans or that I try detransitioning]
Off-topic, but I thought "midgets" were small, but otherwise proportionate human beings, where dwarfs are humans who also have a disproportionately large head and short limbs and torsos, while in addition to being short, unlike midgets.
 
lol, once i found out that Dwarfs hat ebeing called midget, ad refer to it as "the M word". it is thier Nigger .
I trully thought it was like, just a different gens of dwarf.

anway.
WHO'DA THUNK
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I just gotta get this out of my system...

Even though I spent years in therapy and doing in-depth research on physical and emotional outcomes of top surgery, and wanted it ever since I learned about it, I never expected I could feel this way years post op.

Yes my dysphoria is a lot better now, but in exchange I started experiencing so much debilitating shame that has basically canceled out all the positives. I literally feel like I SHOULDN'T enjoy my body. It isn't just a feeling or just a thought, it's a core belief, and I even have a whole host of reasons to back it up.

Pre-op, in my pros and cons list, I struggled to envision significant cons other than complications. I did not foresee ever developing this mental state. I thought I had gotten rid of trans-related shame long ago. Over time, I have learned about acceptance in life, and I see now that I could have just coped with the potentially lifelong chest dysphoria. It would have even been easy compared to living with this... believing deep down that I should be ashamed post-op (but not pre-op).

In all my years of trans experience, I've never heard of anything like this happening suddenly POST transition. I see most people sharing how they are happy post-op, and I get confused. Like maybe this means there's a chance I don't have to feel this bad? But I believe in the most absolute sense that I should feel this bad. I know this post is upsetting and shitty, but therapy isn't helping and I feel completely hopeless.

[Note: I will not engage with comments suggesting I might not really be trans or that I try detransitioning]
Lol!

No wonder she (I assume it’s an FTM?) doesn’t want to engage with trans-istential questions. She knows deep down inside that this is where the bone is borrowed, so to speak, but the thought of having invested so much in a one way street and false narrative would literally break her.

Speaking of trannies “not suffering from dysphoria” post op, I cant help but wonder how much of it is just caused by passage of time and maturation.
Off-topic, but I thought "midgets" were small, but otherwise proportionate human beings, where dwarfs are humans who also have a disproportionately large head and short limbs and torsos, while in addition to being short, unlike midgets.
Ehh… Isn’t it the same thing though? The reason dwarfs aren’t proportionate are that the human physiology just doesn’t allow them to. A brain or a heart can only be so small after all.
 
Lol!

No wonder she (I assume it’s an FTM?) doesn’t want to engage with trans-istential questions. She knows deep down inside that this is where the bone is borrowed, so to speak, but the thought of having invested so much in a one way street and false narrative would literally break her.

Speaking of trannies “not suffering from dysphoria” post op, I cant help but wonder how much of it is just caused by passage of time and maturation.

Ehh… Isn’t it the same thing though? The reason dwarfs aren’t proportionate are that the human physiology just doesn’t allow them to. A brain or a heart can only be so small after all.
Dwarfs usually have an endocrine or genetic condition that makes them develop abnormally. Midgets on the other hand may be small, but are physiologically normal and healthy.
 
Speaking of trannies “not suffering from dysphoria” post op, I cant help but wonder how much of it is just caused by passage of time and maturation.

Ehh… Isn’t it the same thing though? The reason dwarfs aren’t proportionate are that the human physiology just doesn’t allow them to. A brain or a heart can only be so small after all.
For sure, the passing of time will be a big part-

majorly, I think its because they actually have such a horrible fucking actual bodily trauma for the first time ever- they have these awful rotdog horror stories going on for months, and are immediately free of dysphoria-
and dont realise its because for the first time in their life, they have to take care of thier body, realise how fragile it is, and are so grateful when it actually works (for a few days before the next collapse).

waking up from surgery blissed out on opiates, and then going immediately into a world of pain and recovery where all they want is for their body to have adequate function (exactly what it did have)

once you've had a huge awful stress, you dont sweat the small stuff- so yeah, dysphoria cured!

the Tif in that reddit screen cap...it sounds like (I think) she only had top surgery, and must be having some sort of horrible complication from it? I'm not totally sure of the possible levels of severity, but I know they can have all sos of nerve pain, which will effect movement , gnarly scars, and possibly things like chronic nipple rot, or whatever- i'm not sure like i say, of how long term and serious booboff complications can be.
 
Now im not saying he looks like a woman, but this guy has never seen a naked woman before if he thinks theyre just completely flat between the legs. Fucking idiot i stg.

Re: Tard Whisperer (reply function not working)

That’s an excellent writeup. His story highlights just how privileged some of these troons are. The average person cannot afford to take extensive periods off from work, to travel to foreign countries and shell out tens of thousands of dollars for surgeries, spend weeks in recovery, then later on decide to pay for the surgery to get reversed. Meanwhile, he is cheered on by troons and their ilk for “becoming his true self.”

He says he doesn’t regret it, but meanwhile he says he would’ve been fine had he not transitioned.

Some of those surgeries are so strange. I mean, teeth lengthening? He looked fine beforehand. Every surgery made him look uglier. He had issues with the result of so many of them. A bunch of them went wrong, like the bolt-on chest implants. In the end, he puts all of the blame on everyone but himself. It is the doctors fault for giving him a bad result, the troons for lying, etc. etc. He is the one that underwent the surgery. No one forced him. He is angry at Kamol, yet Kamol gave him exactly what he asked for. Also, despite decrying troon dishonesty about surgeries, he still perpetuates these lies by not rejecting SRS altogether. He also complains that the surgeries are like torture, but I can’t feel any sympathy because he is always eager to go under the knife again afterwards.

He seemed to think after each surgery, he would finally be comfortable in his body. What he didn’t realize is that you cannot cure mental illness by changing your body. The result is never as good as they intend. Even if they got surgery that perfectly fit their idea of what they should look like, who is to say that their mental illness wont change later on to desire a different body shape? I am not sure if that last point makes any sense with how I worded it.

It seems like his transition was a way of him trying to cope with some sort of unaddressed childhood trauma. Does he mention being abused anywhere in his digital footprint?



In one post he said he convinced his ex-partner to go to Tijuana and to get his own injections. How does a person develop such a sick fetish in the first place? I feel like these people with extreme fetish body modifications are always living in Washington State and San Francisco, California. I am not sure how they can be functioning members of society if they have to waddle around with the equivalent of two ostrich eggs in their pants. You can’t even go in public like that. What if a child were to see?

I also don’t doubt for a second that he has abused drugs.
They all live in San Fran and Washington bc they are progressive meccas of faggotry. Thats basically it.

Off-topic, but I thought "midgets" were small, but otherwise proportionate human beings, where dwarfs are humans who also have a disproportionately large head and short limbs and torsos, while in addition to being short, unlike midgets.

Dwarfs usually have an endocrine or genetic condition that makes them develop abnormally. Midgets on the other hand may be small, but are physiologically normal and healthy.
Lmfao im not sure where you got your understanding of the dichotomy of "midgets" and "dwarves", but im like 99% sure its not the case. Dwarves is just the politically correct term now (im guessing based on the medical term of "dwarfism"), "midget" has always referred to the exact same people, used to be seen as a laymans term but its just a slur now. I mean maybe midgets have always considered it a slur but who cares about what those niggers think?

The only proportional-but-tiny people are also dwarves, its just a different type of dwarfism (there are shitloads of different types) called primordial dwarfism. They all have a specific type of face and voice associated with them, and its very rare, from what i remember. Maybe there are cases of smaller-but-proportional people that isnt due to dwarfism, but they wouldnt be called midgets, at least not if you were trying to be nice to them lmfao.
 
You might be referring to Jalisa Vine, brief spell of being called “Being”…. formally Tyler (Username to most shit was Tyince). She deleted all of her regret videos a couple of months back (for the nth fucking time).
Her Instagram says she will be back in 2023. I keep an eye on her because the cope and faux positivity is cringe as fuck and I am just curious to see how long it will be before she completely breaks.
Just an update on Jalisa

She posted a Youtube video explaining why she deleted her detransition diaries videos.
- Basically said she felt unsafe with the reaction with different people using her videos to suit their own agendas blah blah blah.
-She has also started a podcast.

This woman is a total fucking trainwreck. I genuinely believe that she has subconsciously fried her ability to actually FEEL real emotions in an attempt to deal with her cope at being duped into having her vagina scooped out and her arm skin stapled to her crotch.

(No point archiving. The video is literally a nothingburger).
 
Crazy lady does things with her rotdog that no man could (or would!) do with an actual penis.



The comments are about on par for these wacky broads:
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“OMG! Such a PRETTY dick! Where’d you get it?!”

“Teehee so whimsical! Very manly!”
"So can we see the helicopter too? Of course only to see the functionality in medical view..."

Unless its to see if you have a Kinsley-theorized sexual reaction to said helicopter, then I suppose this can be considered in a "medical view."
It has been said before but holy fuck, these troons don't have any insight of people's anatomy. If a cis male said that a vagina must be pink they would be crying "you are sexist and hate women!"

Edit to not double post but I saw this on tumblr and lol
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Yes surgeries can be gross, but what are you doing are mad men's experiments and totally not life saving stuff, despite what your mentally ill brain says
Conflation detector >>> Positive
The results -- months or even years after surgery -- are gross. That is what we are focusing on chief. This is yet another cope. Boob jobs, limo, even a full mommy makeover is a shitshow day after operation. But, many of those results, just a month or two later, start to look like it was well worth the money. Even if you didn't have literal grifting butchers hacking you for their third Tesla, it would still look gross and unnatural because you are trying to create what doesn't exist in nature. Weird animals with dicks are one thing, but a straight up XX woman with a dong that can get a rager and a pair of balls doesn't appear anywhere in history. You finding evidence of this is simply proof that degeneracy goes back a long way.

The more they make stupid arguments like this, the more I know I am (for lack of a less-douchier way of putting this) on the right side of history.

User Ceryliae has a super scrotum stink-ditch that looks like it healed into a J shape instead of the usual amhole. Butcher was Dr. Sinclair.

This is one of the most scar-ridden jobs I've seen and he's likely been picking at it or scratching like crazy. It is also weird how his left deflated testicle seems to have more meat than the other half of his amhole. He probably ripped his hole into the extended slit or something to get that shape.
It seems many troons have trouble saying it'll look better since it has been nearly 3 months since his butchery. He does get one pity "progress" comments at least. (A)
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Serethen
Thats a lot of scarring. Im assuming itll fade over time?

beanieweenie5214
Why is this being down voteddownvoted? They're not being hateful or anything.

SadElvenMermaid
because of its bluntness?
because thats a persons body, private parts, that theyre talking about, and something they may be stuck with forever?
this is blunt too

Catnipisjustweed
Well it was an objective statement. If you were not prepared to get comments like these, you wouldnt post here.

tessthismess
“That’s a lot of scarring” is literally not an objective statement. It’s an opinion.

SadElvenMermaid
should probably make it a little more clear that this subreddit isn't for care and consideration then, considering we're talking objectively about real surgeries real people who upload their own results have
the statement is also a bit loaded with implication. like "hey if that's me i hope i dont have that much scarring" or at least that's where i see my insecurity.

Catnipisjustweed
Well in my opinion, you should get objective answers, as they can sonetimes even help you seek out a doctor again in case of medical problems. Especially with surgeries there shouldnt be too much hugboxing as people might tell you wrong things that can come back to you in the future.


He may be coping a bit since he barely brings up much besides "I no longer have any pain"
Usually the weirdos talk about depth, orgasms or the dilating pain.
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leshpar
Its hard to tell exactly how it'll look once everything is healed, but its definitely making good progress! How exactly are you dealing with the pain and does it effect walking around, sitting, or sleeping? How do you handle everyday tasks?

Ceryliae
I no longer have any pain whatsoever

Opinion >>> Nigga! Why you sit on a meat grinder?
Objective Statement >>> There appears to be a lot of scaring.

But I'm not surprised they don't know (or, better, refuse to accept) the reality of words.
 
Another mutilated man speaks out:

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Fellow troons reply and got their priorities straight: BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COOOMING?!

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Appreciate your contributions but would be extremely cool if we could make the copy paste thing more common. KF and text heavy screenshots on mobile can be a pain in the ass. Let us embrace the copy pasted text.
 
Because it's just a flesh tube stitched to her crotch, not a body part. These crazy women see horror sausages as toys and accessoirs.

#1 tip doctors don't want you to know: you don't need an armroll penis. you can just go to the dollar store to get one of these guys to waggle and flop around.

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Appreciate your contributions but would be extremely cool if we could make the copy paste thing more common. KF and text heavy screenshots on mobile can be a pain in the ass. Let us embrace the copy pasted text.
Unrelated to the thread itself, but you can use NormCap to quickly extract text from an image. Should be very easy to install on Windows, macOS and Linux. I am not sure if a similar application exists for Android or iOS.
 
Worldwide it's a mess, but there's precedent in bongland. Brits aren't usually the most consistent with regards to sentencing (or should I say consistent but in a bad way), but all women who tricked other women or girls into having sex with them by pretending to be men/boys were found guilty. I'm not a lolyer so I'm quoting charges as bong rags give them.
  • 2012: Gemma Barker (19), victims aged 15 and 16 reported fraud when one of them thought she got raped by deception by the other's "boyfriend". 2.5 years for sexual assault. No troonshield.
  • 2013: Christine Wilson (25), victims aged 15 and 15. Probation and registry listing for sexual fraud but no charges for assaulting children. Troons complained about both. Gender identity disorder. Pled guilty.
  • 2013: Justine McNally (17), victim aged 16. 3 years for sexual assault by penetration (no consent due to fraud). Weird case because she's been in a "relationship" with the victim since 13 and wanted to get an arm sausage to live together happily ever after so must have obviously been troon-groomed herself. Implied troonshield but had a lesbian sidepiece.
  • 2015: Gayle Newland (25), victim aged 25. 8 years for sexual assault, reduced to 6 on retrial. No troonshield.
  • 2016: Jennifer Staines (23), 3, victims aged 12, ??, 17. 3 years 3 months for sexual assault, assault by penetration, possession of an indecent photo. No troonshield.
  • 2020: Gemma Watts (21), 4 victims aged 13, 14, 14, 16. 8 years for assault by penetration, meeting a child following sexual grooming, sexual assault. No troonshield.
Takeaways:
  • none of the perps pretended to be a real person;
  • some victims were of age;
  • some cases didn't involve plastic dicks and thus didn't hinge on the lack of consent for a specific sex act;
  • only one didn't pass whatsoever, others fooled victims, victims' parents, friends, and cops;
  • all perps were legally women, none had a GRC;
  • troonshield worked but only in combination with admitting guilt.
So far in the UK, at least without a GRC, deception with regards to sex is still rape assault (bong rape is male on female, p in v only).
Thank you for these!

Yeah, so as you said, most weren't actual trans situations, or if they were, looks like minors were involved and/or the convictions were not for rape/rape by deception (though I see one for "sexual fraud," which is intriguing/the Wilson case, but see quote from judge under the spoiler). Also in most cases the person had a specific intent to defraud/ victimize/ exploit that was key to convictions.

The age on these cases is interesting, though, as they are most from the prior decade. Recent changes to charging guidelines (I've put links below) actually move even further away from gender/sex as a basis for a deception-based sex charge.

This was interesting from the one trans (non-surgical, I think) one, who went after minors, Christine Wilson:

"Christine Wilson, who is also known as Chris, has lived as a man since childhood.

In sentencing at the High Court in Edinburgh, Lord Bannatyne said: "These are very unusual offences. I have accepted that you genuinely feel that you are male rather than female. I believe this obviously significantly reduces your culpability.
"I believe that this can be dealt with by the imposition of a probation order.""

Gayle Newman ran a con for years - and required the woman she was charged over to wear a blindfold whenever they met up, and made up an injury to explain a binder she was wearing - so seems like presentation (as a man while actually a woman) wasn't the deception. I think the article said her conviction was reversed on appeal but I didn't follow up.

The article on Gemma Watts said there was thought she may have had as many as 50 victims. Odd, too, is that she was 21 posing as a 16 yo boy...but going after 12 & 13 yo girls...who are too young for real 16 yo boys, too! Psycho didn't even go after fake-age-appropriate girls. And, like you noted, she's not trans, "just" a predator pedo lesbian.

As for McNally, the pics of her after her release show a girl dressed/presenting as a girl. And her conviction was due to the Court's assessment that hers was an active deception (vs simple omission).

Just last September, the Crown Pros. Service removed references to sex and gender from their charging guidance on Rape and Serious Sexual Offences (RASSO), specifically Chapter 6: Consent, the section on Deception as to Gender.

This link goes to their initial call for comment on proposed changes, which lays out the rationale for the proposal:

The consultation closed December 20, and the language was removed, though seemingly not due to consultation/ comments received, but per guidance from the Office of National Statistics that the terms as used were outmoded:

The upshot, though, is that though I guess they skirted having to say so explicitly, Bongland has essentially said this (deception by gender) won't be a prosecuted thing.
 
GUYS!

We gotta stop using the M word!

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Yeah and someone with body dysmorphia that wants to only have one arm wouldn't consider it mutilation to have their arm aputated, but objectively, to a neutral observer, it is.
This right here is a perfect example of why these people are mentally ill and shouldn't even be legally competent to consent to these hackjob surgeries.
 
old.reddit.com is your friend. And here you go!
It's funny... She still has feminine pubic hair. Guys have hair above and below their dicks, maybe groomed, maybe not, but this twit only has hair below because their dick was created by yanking a chunk of stomach skin out to make that giant skin tag.
 
It's funny... She still has feminine pubic hair. Guys have hair above and below their dicks, maybe groomed, maybe not, but this twit only has hair below because their dick was created by yanking a chunk of stomach skin out to make that giant skin tag.
It is weird how clockable even something as mundane and non-sexual pubic hair is in cases like this. Like I can easily tell a stinkditch from a rot dog just based on it without thinking at all on it. It is as obvious to me as a chisel jaw or no orbital brow.
 
I can't see the video since I don't have a reddit account unlike you godless lot but I get get a good laugh out of the comments. (a)

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Nope, no fetishizing here. Normal men totally spin their dicks around like helicopters randomly, this isn't just a mentally ill female fantasizing she has a protruding, floppy sex organ attached to her.

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Pre-op gets her comment deleted because pretending that a dead-skin crotch-sock looks like a genuine penis is still too transphobic if you even imply that it wasn't attached to its user's crotch when she was born.

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No man has ever responded to anything with "eeeeek", except MtF trannies larping too hard as women.

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fucking lol :optimistic: :optimistic: :optimistic:
Just change the url from Reddit.com to teddit.net, for future reference
 
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