Layoffs of 2023 - Learn to weld

[WelperHelper99]

Time to start gatekeeping welding and other blue-collar jobs.

Many don't want to do it in the first place, as its hard work, and those who do will have to deal with hearing words like faggot and possibly being called as such.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

people talk about welding being safe, but if the truck drivers, fast food workers, and software engineers are on the chopping block, dont think automation wont come for you either. eventually, your time of reckoning will come and what will you do then?

 

[gleeperglopper]

people talk about welding being safe, but if the truck drivers, fast food workers, and software engineers are on the chopping block, dont think automation wont come for you either. eventually, your time of reckoning will come and what will you do then?

hmm. Tell me you don't know much about welding without saying you don't know much about welding. Robots are great welders in super clean rooms doing repeatable welds. That's about it. And that's a very small percentage of what most welders actually work on.

 

[Flatline]

your time of reckoning will come and what will you do then?

Join the singularity in the AI-built metaverse.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

people talk about welding being safe, but if the truck drivers, fast food workers, and software engineers are on the chopping block, dont think automation wont come for you either. eventually, your time of reckoning will come and what will you do then?

That's been the theory since day 1, but that pesky reality keeps getting in the way. Turns out that robots (like AI and most other forms of automation) are good at extremely narrow, repetitive tasks that don't require anything resembling general decision making. Its why Lotus 1-2-3 could remove half the scut work from accounting, but self-drivibg cars are still a pipe dream four decades on. Math doesn't require situational awareness.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

They can't even come close to making a robot ti clean grocery store floors and you think we're anywhere remotely close to making some kind of mobile welding robot.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

hmm. Tell me you don't know much about welding without saying you don't know much about welding. Robots are great welders in super clean rooms doing repeatable welds. That's about it. And that's a very small percentage of what most welders actually work on.

That's been the theory since day 1, but that pesky reality keeps getting in the way. Turns out that robots (like AI and most other forms of automation) are good at extremely narrow, repetitive tasks that don't require anything resembling general decision making. Its why Lotus 1-2-3 could remove half the scut work from accounting, but self-drivibg cars are still a pipe dream four decades on. Math doesn't require situational awareness.

They can't even come close to making a robot ti clean grocery store floors and you think we're anywhere remotely close to making some kind of mobile welding robot.

denial isnt just a river in utah

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I kinda feel bad for people learning STEM nowadays and graduating into a second tech crush. While the majority of the engineers fired are useless idiots, those idiots are still competing with new graduates for a job.

I hope at least those that were fired will be stigmatized as useless and let the new generation get in, but that's unlikely, especially if hiring practices are still nepotistic.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

After the twitter firings, im 100% convinced that the Pareto principle or "80/20 rule" applies to every big woke corporation that has decided that meritocracy is what Hitler would do.
Especially for software companies that have a small minority of coders and a seemingly unlimited supply of bullshit jobs.
Add supporting evidence like This:

And i think most of these companies could easily let 50% of their staff go without any major (negative) effect on productivity.

Replace them all with an Indian call center. Elon will save 95% on useless Millennial women who fuck around all day.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

I kinda feel bad for people learning STEM nowadays and graduating into a second tech crush. While the majority of the engineers fired are useless idiots, those idiots are still competing with new graduates for a job.

I hope at least those that were fired will be stigmatized as useless and let the new generation get in, but that's unlikely, especially if hiring practices are still nepotistic.

A lot of these puds who got laid off are often in “support roles” that are less likely to have technical degrees that are useful.

There are a good chunk of people that are best described as “marginal employees” who only get hired in the good times that are first on the chopping block. They’re more often than not just warm bodies that provide minimum value. If a college graduate has a decent resume, they will rank higher than these seat fillers.

 

[Ron Jeremy Stan Account]

They can't even come close to making a robot ti clean grocery store floors

I used to think those automated spill-detecting grocery store robots were just a meme, until I actually saw one with googly eyes and everything at a supermarket fairly recently. I laughed hysterically at the concept, until I looked into it more and found out those fucking things cost upwards of $35-45,000 a piece. A god damn glorified Roomba that doesn't even clean floors costs more money than a fucking car.

 

[Absolutego]

I kinda feel bad for people learning STEM nowadays and graduating into a second tech crush. While the majority of the engineers fired are useless idiots, those idiots are still competing with new graduates for a job.

I hope at least those that were fired will be stigmatized as useless and let the new generation get in, but that's unlikely, especially if hiring practices are still nepotistic.

If they're actually learning STEM they largely aren't affected by the current crunch. The current layoffs are disproportionately targeting PMs and other non-tech useless fucks at my clients' firms.
Unless you joined a social media company's device department, then you're totally fucked and Samsung/Apple aren't hiring atm.

 

[gleeperglopper]

If they're actually learning STEM they largely aren't affected by the current crunch. The current layoffs are disproportionately targeting PMs and other non-tech useless fucks at my clients' firms.
Unless you joined a social media company's device department, then you're totally fucked and Samsung/Apple aren't hiring atm.

Oh no! What are we going to do without 14 project managers, a Portfolio manager, 3 business analysts, and a product owner attached to every project?? How am I going to produce any work when I'm not being forced into 8 hours of project status meetings a week!?

 

[Absolutego]

Oh no! What are we going to do without 14 project managers, a Portfolio manager, 3 business analysts, and a product owner attached to every project?? How am I going to produce any work when I'm not being forced into 8 hours of project status meetings a week!?

My new favorite nonsense job title to come out of everyone crying about these layoffs is Human Truths Strategist
What the fuck did they even do?

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

I think if anything these layoffs of 2023 will make people try to pump up the statistics of how much unemployment went down, yet they’ll still refuse to tell us the kinds of jobs that people do not want.

Economists will be in a big Catch-22 where they will still force others to claim that inflation is not a serious thing, but will still have to read more about there are no jobs left for people being laid off in the tech and media sectors.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

I used to think those automated spill-detecting grocery store robots were just a meme, until I actually saw one with googly eyes and everything at a supermarket fairly recently. I laughed hysterically at the concept, until I looked into it more and found out those fucking things cost upwards of $35-45,000 a piece. A god damn glorified Roomba that doesn't even clean floors costs more money than a fucking car.

...but costs less than an idiot with a mop
(including the 'burdened rate' of an employee)

 

[feral cat #6385]

people talk about welding being safe, but if the truck drivers, fast food workers, and software engineers are on the chopping block, dont think automation wont come for you either. eventually, your time of reckoning will come and what will you do then?

Robots aren't as capable or fast as you may think.

And require a team of maintenance techs to keep working. And the ability to get replacement parts on short notice.

 

[General Disarray]

OK. Tech is purging. Now do public sector employees please.

 

[Rakovnik]

Lots of welding talk and not enough pictures! Sure robots can weld but like everyone else said, they're mostly only good for manufacturing. A lot of manufacturing uses manual welding still for things like custom trailers or anything that's not big order volume.

Also, 90% of work in welding is prep work like disassembly to reach the part you need to fix and cleaning the surface. If the robot can't do that part, why would you haul it out there to do the easy part?

Here's my John Deere haybine I'm fixing for this season. Welding cracks in the gearbox support that I had to bend back in shape with c clamps. They're not the prettiest but they'll hold.

5/32 7018 rod
140a 120v

 

[NoReturn]

I kinda feel bad for people learning STEM nowadays and graduating into a second tech crush. While the majority of the engineers fired are useless idiots, those idiots are still competing with new graduates for a job.

I hope at least those that were fired will be stigmatized as useless and let the new generation get in, but that's unlikely, especially if hiring practices are still nepotistic.

What about the people who graduated with translation degrees right before machine translation became ubiquitous?
It happens.