Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Useful_Mistake]

After months of agonizing, the U.S has agreed to send longer-range bombs to Ukraine as it prepares to launch a spring offensive to retake territory Russia captured last year, U.S. officials said Thursday, confirming that the new weapons will have roughly double the range of any other offensive weapon provided by America.

The U.S. will provide ground-launched small diameter bombs as part of a $2.17 billion aid package it is expected to announce Friday, several U.S. officials said. The package also for the first time includes equipment to connect all the different air defense systems Western allies have rushed to the battlefield and integrate them into Kviv’s own air defenses, to help them better defend against Russia’s continued missile attacks.

The longer-range bombs are the latest advanced system, such as Abrams tanks and the Patriot missile defense system, that the U.S. has eventually agreed to provide Ukraine after initially saying no. U.S. officials, though, have continued to reject Ukraine’s requests for fighter jets.

The U.S. aid package includes $425 million in ammunition and support equipment that will be pulled from existing Pentagon stockpiles and $1.75 billion in new funding through the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, which is used to purchase new weapons from industry.

• Although Western tanks are qualitatively superior to Russian tanks fighting in Ukraine, they will only affect the outcome of the war if they arrive in sufficient numbers, are used effectively, and are supported properly.
• For Western tanks to affect the war’s outcome, the West needs to send more of them, Ukraine needs to use them as part of a combined arms team, and it must develop the capability to logistically support them.

The decision by Western countries to send tanks to Ukraine is a welcome one, but tanks—at least in their current numbers—will not change the course of the war.

At the same time, the fact that russia is trying to adapt the Kh-101 missiles to breakthrough the air defense, albeit in rather strange ways, nevertheless indicates that their view of ready-made products is not static. This means that other surprises should be expected from the already "familiar" russian weapons.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/invasion-of-ukraine-news-megathread.113457/post-14594808

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I think is hard for someone to comprehend that people especially americans can speak more than one language considering we were graced with retards who only speak Murican.

Btw any predictions when will russia win or this will be never ending grinder? I am hearing that by the end of this summer the fat lady will sing.

Most Americans can't even find Ukraine on a map; speaking other languages doesn't even factor into their little brains, bless them.

I hope it's over by summer but it may end before that.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/invasion-of-ukraine-news-megathread.113457/post-14594808

That is why providing Ukraine more tanks changes the "current numbers" of tanks. Currently the west is providing at least 300 tanks

 

[Mepsi Pax]

The language is literally the same though. It's like with British and American English.

Slav niggers really be fighting over mustache or moustache, or zed or zee, and shit probably like about or aboot lmao.

The languages are actually very divergent. The only thing you can say about them is that they're both Slavic. Ukrainian is much more closely related to other slavspeaks like Polish, Croatian, and Romanian, which makes sense because they share ethnic commons and history with those places (recall the alignment of Eastern v. Western blocs here, the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, Austro-Hungary, etc).

Russian and Ukrainian are NOT mutually intelligible at all. They share some root words from Old Slavonic or whatever but they are two distinct languages. You and bonerfart are both retarded and it's embarrassing that you would offer your useless opinions without even a basic grasp on history (very American btw)

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

The languages are actually very divergent. The only thing you can say about them is that they're both Slavic. Ukrainian is much more closely related to other slavspeaks like Polish, Croatian, and Romanian, which makes sense because they share ethnic commons and history with those places (recall the alignment of Eastern v. Western blocs here, the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, Austro-Hungary, etc).

Russian and Ukrainian are NOT mutually intelligible at all. They share some root words from Old Slavonic or whatever but they are two distinct languages. You and bonerfart are both retarded and it's embarrassing that you would offer your useless opinions without even a basic grasp on history (very American btw)

That mainly applies to Western Ukraine, and even then it was never a really complete language, closer to a regional dialect of Polish. A lot of it was made up on the fly in the 90's. The rest of what is currently known as Ukraine historically spoke Russian or some variant of surzhyk, a villager mix of Russian and Ukrainian/Moldovan/Hungarian, depending on the region.

Edit:
Reminds me of an old joke. A Pollack meets a Ukrainian, they start talking about languages.

The Pole asks: "How do you say school?"
Ukrainian says: "Shkola"
Pole says: "Same here, szkola. How do you say sky?"
Ukrainian says: "Nebo"
Pole says: "Same here, niebo. How do you say dick?"
Ukrainian says: "Khuy"
Pole says: "In Polish is kutas"
Ukrainian asks: "So you call this a new language just because of dick?"

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

The languages are actually very divergent. The only thing you can say about them is that they're both Slavic. Ukrainian is much more closely related to other slavspeaks like Polish, Croatian, and Romanian, which makes sense because they share ethnic commons and history with those places (recall the alignment of Eastern v. Western blocs here, the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, Austro-Hungary, etc).

Russian and Ukrainian are NOT mutually intelligible at all. They share some root words from Old Slavonic or whatever but they are two distinct languages. You and bonerfart are both retarded and it's embarrassing that you would offer your useless opinions without even a basic grasp on history (very American btw)

Ukrainian and Russian are as different as Mexican Spanish and Spaniard Spanish.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Conscription in Odessa:

Odessa military commissars have mastered a new method of work: a conscript was blinded by pepper spray so that he couldn't resist the process of "mobilization."

Here is another example of mass mobilization, a deadly wave of which is rolling all over Ukraine. While the authorities in Kiev call the brutal detentions on the streets a "Russian fake," the security forces are beginning to use any kind of weapon against men of conscription age. The footage shows how a man in Odessa was forcibly mobilized; he was not very happy about the prospect of going to the front, and representatives of the military registration and enlistment office are trying to use pepper spray on his eyes and face so that he could not resist the process.

He says, "I'm not going with you; you're already torturing me in front of people!" This scoundrel sprayed me in the face with a gas can (pepper spray). I did not attack this man." https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31722

That mainly applies to Western Ukraine, and even then it was never a really complete language, closer to a regional dialect of Polish. A lot of it was made up on the fly in the 90's. The rest of what is currently known as Ukraine historically spoke Russian or some variant of surzhyk, a villager mix of Russian and Ukrainian/Moldovan/Hungarian, depending on the region.

Edit:
Reminds me of an old joke. A Pollack meets a Ukrainian, they start talking about languages.

The Pole asks: "How do you say school?"
Ukrainian says: "Shkola"
Pole says: "Same here, szkola. How do you say sky?"
Ukrainian says: "Nebo"
Pole says: "Same here, niebo. How do you say dick?"
Ukrainian says: "Khuy"
Pole says: "In Polish is kutas"
Ukrainian asks: "So you call this a new language just because of dick?"

Also remember this poor schlub getting beaten by a drunk commander from my previous post?

The Kherson boy who was mobilized into the AFU then accused of being a traitor?

The Ukrainian commander says "You all are traitors. You gave Kherson to Russia without a battle, and now you're here?" The Kherson guy replied, "I am your own".
Russian TG channels had to translate the commander's words because he was speaking actual Western Ukrainian.

I am your own? Not for long imo

 

[Useful_Mistake]

General Atomics has offered to sell the Ukrainian government two of its flagship MQ-9 Reaper drones. While the idea of also sending the company’s MQ-1C Gray Eagle to Ukraine has been floated a number of times since Russia’s all-out invasion began, it remains unclear exactly how valuable either type’s contributions could be considering their vulnerability when operating in contested airspace.

However, if accepted, WSJ said Kyiv would still have to pay about $10 million in preparation and shipping costs to get the Reapers to Ukraine, and around an additional $8 million each following year to maintain and sustain the drones.

A Ukrainian combat pilot whose callsign is ‘Juice’ spoke to how this reality would affect Gray Eagle specifically in this past War Zone feature, saying the drone can only really be used “for reconnaissance” and “at large distances" and “not for attack missions because for attack missions you need to be closer [to the enemy].” He added, “It’s a very capable platform…but as for me it’s very dangerous to use it just on the front line. It’s not Afghanistan here.” With that, it isn’t difficult to see how the same could apply to Reaper even outside of an attack scenario.

Another Ukrainian aviator going by his callsign ‘Moonfish’ noted how, despite their initial success with Bayraktar TB2 drones, Ukrainian forces ultimately decided to scale back operations with the aircraft as Russia’s air defenses grew, which doesn’t bode well for Reapers or Gray Eagles. “[Bayraktar TB2 drones] were very useful and important in the very first days,” Moonfish said, referencing how the drones were helpful in stopping columns of Russian armored vehicles and troops heading toward Kyiv. Still, once Russia built up more sophisticated air defenses, he said TB2s became “almost useless."

Ukraine was offered to buy drones that Ukraine soldiers deem "almost useless" against the Russians.

Sander Sørsveen Trelvik and Simon Johnsen, two Norwegian medics volunteering in Ukraine, were injured during shelling in the city of Bakhmut in Donetsk Oblast.

More and more people go into war-torn areas, and somehow this becomes news.

He, like millions of other Ukrainians, is caught in an economic tug of war. Ukraine’s economy is currently suspended between two competing forces. On one end, the Russian invasion has pulled it consistently toward decline: a 25% and accelerating poverty rate, a 35% contraction of gross domestic product, an inflation rate rising above 26%. On the other end are billions of dollars in military and humanitarian aid to the country, which experts say keep the economy stable.

Diminishing employment, rising costs

Ukrainian economy is crashing down, despite Western support.

Russia is reportedly deploying combat robots in an effort to fight the array of tanks that Ukraine has at their disposal.

Very interesting

The EU has allocated its seventh package of assistance for Ukraine worth EUR 500 million ($546 million), and additional military support in the amount of EUR 45 million ($49 million), Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said in a Twitter post on Feb. 2, expressing his gratitude.

No comment.

Losing Crimea Would Escalate Russian-Ukraine Conflict, Former [U.S.] Defense Secretary Says

Is this surprise to anyone?

The US Congress cannot support the $20 billion sale of F-16 fighter jets to Turkey until Ankara ratifies the NATO memberships of Sweden and Finland, a bipartisan group of senators said on Thursday.

Lmao, "SUPPORT UKRAINE OR WE CAN'T TRADE!"

The Australian and French governments have agreed to a deal to jointly manufacture and supply thousands of artillery shells to the Ukrainian army, the defence and foreign ministers of the two countries announced on Monday.

“Several thousand 155mm shells will be manufactured jointly” by French arms supplier Nexter, French Defence Minister Sébastien Lecornu said. His Australian counterpart and deputy prime minister Richard Marles said the plan would come with a “multi-million-dollar” price tag, but neither provided an actual figure.

That should be useful for Ukraine. Wonder what Russia will do in response? Ramp up its own military production?

It also came on the heels of the Australian Labor government sending 70 military personnel two weeks ago to join Operation Interflex, a UK-led mission that has already trained around 10,000 Ukrainian troops. That took Australia’s military contribution to at least $655 million, including the supply of 90 Bushmaster armoured vehicles, making it one of the largest non-NATO contributors to the war.

More and more of Western direct involvement.

Ukrainian troops to start training on Leopard tanks next week

How much training they get again? Five weeks?

America’s top priority is to help Ukraine ‘defend itself’ as a sovereign nation, Blinken adviser says

That's just sad...

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Ukrainian and Russian are as different as Mexican Spanish and Spaniard Spanish.

If you go by what @Badungus Kabungus posted, more like Spanish and Spanglish, like this:

English: The roof has cracks
Spanglish: El rufo se cracrio
Spanish: El techo tiene rajas

Spanish speakers would have trouble with Spanglish, but a bilingual speaker would recognize it as a combination of Spanish and English words made to sound Spanish, but are not. Used by American second generation Hispanics with no formal education in Spanish and maybe a couple of places in Puerto Rico with reverse immigrants. It's not considered a separate language at all.

 

[Doinker Marmalade]

I saw some war footage earlier in the week that really just made me feel kinda gross for the rest of that day. I'm sure lots of you have seen this particular clip, or maybe a similar video. From what I understand these kinds of attacks take place over there very frequently.

It was video taken from a drone camera. The drone was so high up in the sky that the naked eye could barely even see it. The scene shows a completely empty battlefield, save for a single badly wounded Russian soldier lying down on his side in a small trench no wider than his own body, breathing rapidly and clearly in a lot of pain. All of a sudden a little orange doodad unclips from the drone and begins falling toward the soldier. It eventually lands right inside the trench, just behind the small of his back. Despite being torn up, exhausted and likely trying to reconcile with the fact that he will probably die soon, the soldier reaches back, grabs the thing with his bare hands, and chucks it away as hard as he can!

BOOM!

It explodes several feet away from him. It is hard to tell if he has been injured at all in the blast, but it doesn't look like it. He managed to throw it pretty far away. He continues laying in his trench, seeming to try and rest there as best he can. The footage cuts out, and when it comes back on, a short amount of time has passed. The scene is the same: the very same badly wounded Russian soldier lying down in the very same trench no wider than his own body. The actual footage however is being captured from a new drone. You can see visible drone parts that were not on the first one. Another little doodad unclips from the drone and falls. This one is black and white. It lands next to the soldier, and like before, he reaches for it, grabs hold of it, and throws it as hard as he can.

BOOM!

This one didn't get very far. Damage has been caused for sure. A large section of his back is visible through a huge tear in his uniform. There is what appears to be a hole in his side. The footage cuts for a third time, and then returns again. It has been longer now. The Russian lays barely moving in his trench. A third doodad falls. This time he does not reach for it to throw it away from his body. Boom. It explodes almost directly on top of him. If he died, you can't tell. He remains completely still. The footage cuts out.

I know its war, but there is just something about that particular tactic that made me feel really gross. I don't know if it's the unnecessary and prolonged intense psychological anguish that preceded the death, or that we got to watch that anguish, or what exactly it was that made me disappointed like it did. But it did.

I knew this tactic of dropping ordnance from drones was coming after it was first demonstrated in Syria around 2014 or 2015, but I find myself detesting the voyeurism of the video just lingering as the victim is maimed and bleeding to death. This isn't even the final incarnation of drone warfare either, its only a matter of time until these things get reduced to something the size of a toaster and automatically seek out their targets so it can kamikaze into it. Imagine something with the maneuverability and speed of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZvNLuC12R0 with the same amount of explosive as a grenade and totally autonomous.

He survived, there is an interview with him on Russian Telegram channels, but I couldn't find it so you'll just have to take my word for it. BTW, what is shown in the video, trying to finish off a wounded/incapacitated soldier is a WAR CRIME.

Earlier in January someone posted a contract for an Ukranian mortgage with... a very interesting clause:
"In case of alienation of the object territory, the borrower is obliged to fulfill his obligations in full according to the agreement in force. Transfer of parts to the jurisdiction of another state does not release the borrower from obligations."

Your real estate is now part of NovoRossiya? Too bad, keep making your payments, goy.


It gets even worse, though...

This is I assume an AirBnB or something like that in Lviv (Western Ukraine)... why would they include such a clause? What are the Poles planning? Hmmmm

Oh, speaking of cities changing hands... Ukraine has some interesting... naming choices for some of its streets in Zaporozhye.


1) Alexander Matrosov Street will become Olaf(Olov)Scholz Street.
2) Battleship "Potemkin" Street will become Bayraktarskaya (Bayraktar TB-2 drone) Street.
3) The "May 9" street will be renamed HIMARS Street.
4) Alexander Nevsky Street will be named after Boris Johnson.

I wish I was making this up...

Also:

Spoiler: Hier gibst die Quellen, mein Führer.

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Loan contract with a Ukrainian bank: Exciting point: In case of alienation of the object territory, the borrower is obliged to fulfill his obligations in full according to the agreement in force. Transfer of parts to the jurisdiction of another state does not release the borrower from...

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[AgendaPoster]

The languages are actually very divergent. The only thing you can say about them is that they're both Slavic. Ukrainian is much more closely related to other slavspeaks like Polish, Croatian, and Romanian

Sounds like solid grounds for opinion dismissal.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

If you go by what @Badungus Kabungus posted, more like Spanish and Spanglish, like this:

English: The roof has cracks
Spanglish: El rufo se cracrio
Spanish: El techo tiene rajas

Spanish speakers would have trouble with Spanglish, but a bilingual speaker would recognize it as a combination of Spanish and English words made to sound Spanish, but are not. Used by American second generation Hispanics with no formal education in Spanish and maybe a couple of places in Puerto Rico with reverse immigrants. It's not considered a separate language at all.

The Spanglish example is close to syrzhyk, yeah. Depending on the region it can have more Moldovan or more Ukrainian or more Hungarian, but same idea.

Here's a map from 2009. It's probably a little different now, but not by much. Note that syrzhyk is mostly spoken in the countryside.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Spanish speakers would have trouble with Spanglish, but a bilingual speaker would recognize it as a combination of Spanish and English words made to sound Spanish, but are not.

Ehh not really. Spanglish is just Spanish words and English words in the same sentence rarely is it actually something a Californian white girl would say to any Mexican that crosses their path. The ratio of Spanish/English used in the sentences depends solely on which language the person learned first in their life. Ones own ability to follow along with the Spanglish is dependent solely on the speaker and if they're using enough words of the listeners native language so that they can follow along with the general context of the conversation. I would say another example of something like Spanglish would be Tagalog(unsure of which dialect exactly) but even then a native Spanish speaker would not be able to follow along with the conversation since the majority of the words are Flip speak with Spanish sprinkled in here and there, they'll probably recognize colors and names. I guess Dutch would be the Tagalog example for English speakers since you can recognize the English though the English words and English sounding words in Dutch sound like the cunt that's speaking is having a massive stroke. Finnish sounds like Mexican Spanish but the speaker is having such a massive stroke they can only speak in tongues.

Also dialect was the word I was looking for, for a while when typing about how Ukrainian and Russian are the same language. I was trying so hard to remember that word and thinking of Tagalog made me remember. Do Slavs have a concept of dialects? That could be the disconnect between "sounding very American" and slav niggers thinking minor differences is a brand new language.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

@Doinker Marmalade

BTW, what is shown in the video, trying to finish off a wounded/incapacitated soldier is a WAR CRIME.

No it isn't, there is no known mechanism for surrendering to aircraft or helicopters, plus war crimes only matter when you can get the offender into a court. People can scream Geneva Convention all they want but nobody will ever get Apache pilots in front of the ICC for killing Taliban or insurgents that were flailing on the ground suffering from shrapnel wounds by a prior burst of the cannon. War criminals are always from pariah states or nations that lose wars for a reason. I recommend largely ignoring the claim of war crimes unless its large scale stuff, one off executions and violations will never get punished, only give a shit when its full time policy to execute POW like the Japanese, liquidate cities like the Mongols, or the use of universally prohibited weaponry like chemical weapons, the rest is just shrieking for its own sake.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

That mainly applies to Western Ukraine, and even then it was never a really complete language, closer to a regional dialect of Polish. A lot of it was made up on the fly in the 90's. The rest of what is currently known as Ukraine historically spoke Russian or some variant of surzhyk, a villager mix of Russian and Ukrainian/Moldovan/Hungarian, depending on the region.

Edit:
Reminds me of an old joke. A Pollack meets a Ukrainian, they start talking about languages.

The Pole asks: "How do you say school?"
Ukrainian says: "Shkola"
Pole says: "Same here, szkola. How do you say sky?"
Ukrainian says: "Nebo"
Pole says: "Same here, niebo. How do you say dick?"
Ukrainian says: "Khuy"
Pole says: "In Polish is kutas"
Ukrainian asks: "So you call this a new language just because of dick?"

Paul from the channel langfocus disagrees with you. I know Paul is right because I've built a parasocial relationship with him https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CQLM62r5nLI

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Paul from the channel langfocus disagrees with you. I know Paul is right because I've built a parasocial relationship with him https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CQLM62r5nLI

He is free to be wrong, it's his prerogative.

Also: Вообще похуй.

 

[RobotDog]

Sounds like solid grounds for opinion dismissal.

lol, like when someone said Texas was a landlocked state?

On thread related news, it looks like France will be providing the white flags for the upcoming Ukranian reverse offensive

https://twitter.com/oleksiireznikov/status/1620823110688849921

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Ehh not really. Spanglish is just Spanish words and English words in the same sentence rarely is it actually something a Californian white girl would say to any Mexican that crosses their path. The ratio of Spanish/English used in the sentences depends solely on which language the person learned first in their life. Ones own ability to follow along with the Spanglish is dependent solely on the speaker and if they're using enough words of the listeners native language so that they can follow along with the general context of the conversation.

I was not referencing Californians/Mexicans at all, because Spanglish is not common in this form on the West Coast of the US, its prevalent on the East Coast among Caribbean Hispanics in the United States mainly from Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic and Cuba due to a history of constant contact with Americans and our sailors/soldiers. Puerto Rico is an American territory, Cuba was occupied by the US after the Spanish American War as well as having once been cheap and quick vacation spot for gambling, smuggling and prostitution until 1960, now its been replaced by the Dominican Republic, which has also seen US interventions. It's not used by non-Hispanic Americans either, its strictly a phenomenon among Hispanics who used both languages but have little to no formal education in either one. A Hispanic who completed HS and /or university knows how to speak either/or without resorting to pidgin Spanish or a patois, eg Spanglish.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Germany approves Leopard 1 delivery to Ukraine, in talks with Qatar over Gepards -newspaper | Reuters | Ghostarchive

ghostarchive.org

"Once we repair our tanks, and you buy them, Herr Ukraine, we will happily donate them to you"

 

[Simpadoo]

So once Europe gets overrun by Muslims and they become the dominant power there (again), are you going to accept Islam, or keep being a problematic minority? Keep in mind they'll have to circumcise you.

Yurop is still 90% white. Shitskins won’t be taking over any time soon.