US tracking suspected Chinese surveillance balloon - Feds afraid of popping Xi's big red balloon

"The US has been monitoring a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon that has been spotted in the skies over the northern US this week.

Pentagon officials said in a briefing they are "confident that this high-altitude surveillance balloon" belongs to China.
US military chiefs have for now decided against blowing the alleged spy craft out of the sky, citing safety concerns.
US President Joe Biden has been briefed on the situation, said the Pentagon.
The balloon was over the western state of Montana on Wednesday, according to defence officials.
They added that US military leaders, including Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin and General Mark Milley, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, met on Wednesday to assess the threat. Mr Austin was travelling to the Philippines at the time.

The military commanders advised against taking "kinetic action" against the balloon because of the danger of debris falling to the ground.
A senior defence official speaking on condition of anonymity said there was no "significantly enhanced threat" of US intelligence being compromised because US officials "know exactly where this balloon is and exactly where it's passing over".
He added that there was no threat to civilian aviation either because the balloon is "significantly" above the altitude used by commercial airlines.
The senior defence official said the US has raised the matter with Chinese officials in their embassy in Washington DC and in Beijing.
The object flew over Alaska's Aleutian Islands and through Canada before appearing over the city of Billings, Montana, on Wednesday, officials say.

During Thursday's briefing at the Pentagon, officials declined to disclose the aircraft's current location. They also refused to provide more details of the object, including its size.

"There have been reports of pilots seeing this thing even though it's pretty high up in the sky," the unnamed defence official said.
"So you know, it's, it's sizable."
The official added that similar balloons have appeared in the skies over the US in the past few years.
But the current balloon "is appearing to hang out for a longer period of time" and has been "more persistent" than previous spy crafts.
It is unclear why it was seen in that particular region of the US. Billings is around 250 miles (400km) southwest of the Malmstrom Air Force Base, which is one of three US air bases that house the Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile.
Pentagon officials refused to confirm if the base was a surveillance target, but agreed "the current flight path does carry it over a number of sensitive sites".

The alleged spy craft confounded social media users in Montana on Wednesday.
People posted photos of a pale round object in the sky that floated separately from the moon. Others reported seeing US military planes in the area, apparently monitoring the object.
It also led to a two-hour ground stop at Billings Logan International Airport after aviation officials made the decision to close 50 sq miles of air space.
It comes ahead of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken's visit to China.
The top US diplomat will be in Beijing next week to hold talks on a wide range of issues, including security, Taiwan and Covid-19.
He will meet Chinese President Xi Jinping, the Financial Times newspaper reported on Thursday."
 
This is nothing new. The Japanese learned this trick during WW2. They attempted to drop firebombs in the Pacific Northwest this way. They mostly fizzled. One killed a family of campers years later. But it didn't end there. I'm sure all of our resident conspiracy types have heard of Project Blue Book. aka Project UFO. The Air Force team that went around investigating UFO sightings during the height of the Cold War. Remember how they always attributed sightings to "Weather Balloons"? They never said they were our Weather Balloons. There is a powerful high altitude jetstream that runs up over the Japanese home islands and the Kamchatka peninsula, up over the top of the Pacific over the Aleutians and comes down over the Canadian and US Pacific Northwest. While the US was sending high tech billion dollar U-2 and SR-71 Spy Planes to fly over the Soviet Union, all the Soviets needed to do was send up high altitude weather balloons into the jetstream, and pick up the film canister when they came down in the arctic some time later. Mainly all it would give them was the northern arc across the top of the US and Canada. But that's where all the NORAD Radar systems were.
 
Yeah, don't knock it down.

Just let them do whatever they want.

Holy shit, our fucking leaders are nothing more than greased up gay prostitutes with mouths full of Chinese money.
What's funny is that you know China is using a balloon specifically because they don't actually think the US government is dumb enough NOT to shoot a spy aircraft. Man did the US government show them. :story:
 
So this makes me wonder...where did it come from? China is a far float from the USA, so it didn't start in china. It didn't get plane deployed, radar would have seen something. So, my theory is that hongcouver/vancouver is now operating as a satellite military outpost for china, and they floated it southeast from Canada. I hope that they recover the thing and are able to learn something from it.
It absolutely could have been launched in China. People have circumnavigated the globe in balloons, and as has been mentioned already in the thread, the Japanese managed it in WW2.
In scarcely populated Montana. How pathetic.
You don't know exactly how it's going to come down, and there's a not insignificant risk of a forest fire when it comes down. Caution isn't necessarily a bad thing.
 
Slightly schizo theory; this is actually one of the US's own home grown ICBM listening balloons (or a derivative? Goodness knows how far various defense initiatives have developed since the first one crashed in Roswell) that got fucked up and is now AWOL. Feds blame China so they can keep saying it's not theirs and they totally don't have updated high altitude warning/interference/whateverthefuck systems with U.S. Air Force stamped somewhere goys, China doesn't care because it still somehow makes them look good to the bugmen sycophants, and Biden will forget about it entirely by the time of the next press conference so the chair force can happily look the other way and wait it out while getting them good ol' DODimmadollars.
 
What I want to know is why has this piece of pish story been allowed to hit the mainstream media. People are sending up weather balloons all the time. Do a search on ebay and you can find loads for sale from around $20. Add in a cylinder of helium or hydrogen, a free expanded polystyrene box from your local fishmonger, and some basic electronics (gps, cheap phone, cheap camera, arduino), and you've got yourself a school project. Here are a couple of results from the first page of a Google search on "school balloon space"



For the non-Brits, primary school takes kids from 4-11.

For something a bit more professional, this page is a few years old now, but it details the results of various radio hams to get such a balloon to circumnavigate the globe. Look at the sidebar "High Altitude Balloons" to see how many attempts it took them to do it. But look too at how uncontrollable the balloons are. As a spying tool it's pretty shit: a small change in the wind direction and suddenly you're a thousand mile away from where you wanted.
 
It's probably worth mentioning that some in the Japanese Army wanted to try the balloon bombs again, but with a Biological Payload instead of firebombs. Thankfully the Emperor veto'd that plan. But that may be a concern as to why they aren't shooting it down. They don't know what's in it.
 
WW2 in the Pacific had some really weird "weapons". Didn't the US once plan to release thousands of bats over Japan, all attached to a tiny incendiary device with a delayed fuse. The idea was that the bats would take shelter in the eaves of the then mostly wooden japanese houses, then burst into flames and cause hundreds of fires.
 
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WW2 in the Pacific had some really weird "weapons". Didn't the US once plan to release thousands of bats over Japan, all attached to a tiny incendiary device with a delayed fuse. The idea was that the bats would take shelter in the eaves of the then mostly wooden japanese houses, then burst into flames and cause hundreds of fires.

Olga of Kiev did it first
 
WW2 in the Pacific had some really weird "weapons". Didn't the US once plan to release thousands of bats over Japan, all attached to a tiny incendiary device with a delayed fuse. The idea was that the bats would take shelter in the eaves of the then mostly wooden japanese houses, then burst into flames and cause hundreds of fires.

This plan actually made it really far in testing they made test villages and found it actually worked to the point they had two options bat bombs or the nukes.
 
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