Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

[macrodegenerate]

I gave Elliots book a read, and it's not bad at explaining some concepts present in silicon valley and corporate america as a whole. I wouldn't call it required reading for the beginning software engineer.

It's a guide to barely surviving in corporate america without purpose. Elliot resents this lifestyle and views it as oppressive and a hardship they courageously overcame. They didn't. They are still trapped, but with money as a consolation prize.

A world outside of Elliott's maligned version of capitalism exists. It exists in the form of self determination and the creation of "the real" through skill. Smaller privately owned companies that put food in people's mouths need software engineers from time to time. The same goes for steel mills and welders who manage customers. Elliot could be making a positive difference in the world and local communities by working for these enterprises. The problem is that it comes with a lower standard of living in exchange for meaning.

 

[Dread First]

A world outside of Elliott's maligned version of capitalism exists. It exists in the form of self determination and the creation of "the real" through skill. Smaller privately owned companies that put food in people's mouths need software engineers from time to time. The same goes for steel mills and welders who manage customers. Elliot could be making a positive difference in the world and local communities by working for these enterprises. The problem is that it comes with a lower standard of living in exchange for meaning.

As poetic as your tirade is, I propose a more plausible alternate reality for Elliot, assuming the following:

a) That he didn't elect to become a eunuch transvestite, and instead either lived life as an honourable heterosexual 中國人 or a slightly less honourable life as a gay man.
b) That he also wasn't a fucking latent psychopath this entire time.
c) That Elliot actually maintained a grasp of his mother tongue.

If the above were true, I'd wager that Elliot could've more than likely landed himself a lucrative career overseas. He's a first-generation immigrant diaspora who hit the fucking jackpot with his Google job. If he weren't a fucking douchebag, he could've bitten his tongue for a few years and then transferred overseas to Google Taiwan. If that wasn't an option, his penchant for nepotism could've paid him major dividends with Chinese/Taiwanese/Singaporean Internet companies. If that sounds like a pie in the sky idea, let's not forget that Elliot was at Google for, like what, 10 years? You mean to tell me he couldn't have requested a transfer to Google Nippon or Google Taipei or Google Singapore? Xoogler Kiwis, please correct me if I'm wrong here.

It's no fucking secret that Silicon Valley is bloated and has a disgusting underbelly of its own; that's why ex-H1B visa migrants often create start-ups or begin working in overseas divisions of major multinational corporations. Contrary to popular belief, it's not the end of the world if Ramayana Vishwamitra, proud graduate of the University of Kolkata and ex-Google employee, returns home from America. He could easily find himself working a lucrative career in Google India, Microsoft India, Apple India, or wherever else he sees fit.

If the pajeets could do it, why can't this cinderblock-jawed gook?

 

[Super-Chevy454]

If the pajeets could do it, why can't this cinderblock-jawed gook?

That's a good question, I wonder if that cinderblock-jawed gook receive some threat from some guys who plan to spill the beans if LFJ move overseas?

 

[Surfherder]

I read Elliot distinctively as the “everything is racist, but all my friends are white somehow” type. I don’t think he’d even want to be around “his own people” in that way. Clock me, I know.

 

[I Can Smell My Balls]

I read Elliot distinctively as the “everything is racist, but all my friends are white somehow” type. I don’t think he’d even want to be around “his own people” in that way. Clock me, I know.

A big part of that is it allows him to be racist towards them and blame them for all the problems in the world, and because they are libshits, they will gladly agree and apologize for their skin color. I’m sure when the mother jones article came out all his white friends told him how sorry they are that “their people” are doing these horrible things to him.

 

[Jarolleon]

Why the fuck are they capitulating to this? Why are they not furious that this creep is so much as breathing in the direction of their wives?

How does this odious display get him anywhere?
Who are these shell-of-men CEOs, getting bullied by the Hunchback of NotgotDong?

Maybe he used a voice changer to sound like a real woman.

On his Telegram KF account, Josh wrote:



I have questions.

Fong-Jones has been orchestrating incessant, around-the-clock attacks on KF for months now, apparently while in chronic pain from a host of health problems and while also presumably working full-time as a Field CTO for Honeycomb.io--a company that doesn't seem to care if its remote employees spend innumerable hours orchestrating illegal Denial of Service attacks and the like against a legal website, which is simply bizarre. What does this maniacal fucking troon tells his employers when they express concerns about the illegal shit he's doing on what must be company time? How does that work, exactly? No company in the world would put up with this shit unless the company itself is either sympathetic or actively involved, which is a huge liability risk either way. Companies are usually risk-averse to the point of paranoia. Not Honeycomb.io. Odd, very odd.

Are we missing something, some obscure but damning piece of evidence buried under the mountain of Fong-Jones related data we've amassed so far? Another consent accident victim we don't know about but whose identity is there to see if we looked? What would motivate this stratospheric level of commitment?

A solution to the Fong-Jones problem might present itself if we understood means and motivation, I keep looking at this from different angles and haven't yet fully figured out either. None of it makes sense.

If he runs Honeycomb like the OP says, he has the same "fuck you" ultimate job security that Null does. Most people in the tech world fold to his threats easily because their entire livelihoods depend on the opinions of HR or executives, while in Null he's found a target just as independent and implacable as himself. Finding himself suddenly lacking the advantage which he has hitherto enjoyed he is furious, and does anything he can think of to avenge this slight.

 

[Stochastic Terrorist]

Were the Chinese eunuchs always such power-hungry lying obnoxious short-sighted cunts? No wonder the Han dynasty fell.

 

[macrodegenerate]

On his Telegram KF account, Josh wrote:



I have questions.

Fong-Jones has been orchestrating incessant, around-the-clock attacks on KF for months now, apparently while in chronic pain from a host of health problems and while also presumably working full-time as a Field CTO for Honeycomb.io--a company that doesn't seem to care if its remote employees spend innumerable hours orchestrating illegal Denial of Service attacks and the like against a legal website, which is simply bizarre. What does this maniacal fucking troon tells his employers when they express concerns about the illegal shit he's doing on what must be company time? How does that work, exactly? No company in the world would put up with this shit unless the company itself is either sympathetic or actively involved, which is a huge liability risk either way. Companies are usually risk-averse to the point of paranoia. Not Honeycomb.io. Odd, very odd.

Are we missing something, some obscure but damning piece of evidence buried under the mountain of Fong-Jones related data we've amassed so far? Another consent accident victim we don't know about but whose identity is there to see if we looked? What would motivate this stratospheric level of commitment?

A solution to the Fong-Jones problem might present itself if we understood means and motivation, I keep looking at this from different angles and haven't yet fully figured out either. None of it makes sense.

I would recommend reading his book for an understanding of his philosophy on working in the tech field as well as the type of people he gravitates toward. It's concerning. It's free on Amazon's ebook subscription service. There's a free trial promotion going on now.

 

[JustSomeDong]

Were the Chinese eunuchs always such power-hungry lying obnoxious short-sighted cunts? No wonder the Han dynasty fell.

Not just Chinese eunuchs. Egyptian and Ottoman empires come to mind as having some real ambitious castratos, too! Probably any society that had court eunuchs, tbh.

 

[Jarry Seinfelt]

As poetic as your tirade is, I propose a more plausible alternate reality for Elliot, assuming the following:

a) That he didn't elect to become a eunuch transvestite, and instead either lived life as an honourable heterosexual 中國人 or a slightly less honourable life as a gay man.
b) That he also wasn't a fucking latent psychopath this entire time.
c) That Elliot actually maintained a grasp of his mother tongue.

If the above were true, I'd wager that Elliot could've more than likely landed himself a lucrative career overseas. He's a first-generation immigrant diaspora who hit the fucking jackpot with his Google job. If he weren't a fucking douchebag, he could've bitten his tongue for a few years and then transferred overseas to Google Taiwan. If that wasn't an option, his penchant for nepotism could've paid him major dividends with Chinese/Taiwanese/Singaporean Internet companies. If that sounds like a pie in the sky idea, let's not forget that Elliot was at Google for, like what, 10 years? You mean to tell me he couldn't have requested a transfer to Google Nippon or Google Taipei or Google Singapore? Xoogler Kiwis, please correct me if I'm wrong here.

It's no fucking secret that Silicon Valley is bloated and has a disgusting underbelly of its own; that's why ex-H1B visa migrants often create start-ups or begin working in overseas divisions of major multinational corporations. Contrary to popular belief, it's not the end of the world if Ramayana Vishwamitra, proud graduate of the University of Kolkata and ex-Google employee, returns home from America. He could easily find himself working a lucrative career in Google India, Microsoft India, Apple India, or wherever else he sees fit.

If the pajeets could do it, why can't this cinderblock-jawed gook?

I have never handled staffing, but my understanding is that Indian software developers make a nice salary for New Delhi or Bangalore or whatever their NYC/Chicago/SF equivalents are. The big issues with outsourcing your coders to India are that they're on the opposite side of the world, and asking a 40 year old manager with a few kids at home to get on calls at 7PM or 6AM is a big hassle for them, and also the language barrier. Like sure, they speak English, but the English that Indians speak is a whole lot different than a guy from NYC trying to order a beer in Edinburgh. That's why there's been more outsourcing of coding to Eastern European countries like Poland and Serbia over the last decade or so.

I know way less about the situation in China but I don't see why it'd be that much different.

To pull us back on topic, the answer to your question is that Elliot is a profoundly and uniquely unwell and unpleasant asshole.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

I have never handled staffing, but my understanding is that Indian software developers make a nice salary for New Delhi or Bangalore or whatever their NYC/Chicago/SF equivalents are. The big issues with outsourcing your coders to India are that they're on the opposite side of the world, and asking a 40 year old manager with a few kids at home to get on calls at 7PM or 6AM is a big hassle for them, and also the language barrier. Like sure, they speak English, but the English that Indians speak is a whole lot different than a guy from NYC trying to order a beer in Edinburgh. That's why there's been more outsourcing of coding to Eastern European countries like Poland and Serbia over the last decade or so.

I know way less about the situation in China but I don't see why it'd be that much different.

To pull us back on topic, the answer to your question is that Elliot is a profoundly and uniquely unwell and unpleasant asshole.

The only reason Indians do "tech" and calls is because greedy Microsoft decided it would be a good idea to outsource there in the 90s to cut costs.

This was a huge mistake in the timeline and Indians should have never gotten into the tech and customer service business, now we live in chaos where software is worse and less intuitive than before and you can't get anything done through the phone because some mongoloid with shitty telephone manners and English comprehension responds.

Hopefully more people are realizing their ineptitude in the office environment and that they are way more useful working in labor and architecture and the coding and CS shit should be left to those with tech and English literacy.

or whatever their NYC/Chicago/SF

Fun fact: A lot of the companies from these areas actually outsource to Canada while they in turn hire Indian migrants. Whenever you call a company and bank, ask if they are in Canada, you'll be surprised how many of them are.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Not just Chinese eunuchs. Egyptian and Ottoman empires come to mind as having some real ambitious castratos, too! Probably any society that had court eunuchs, tbh.

Any society that let eunuchs get too much power, from Assyria to Achaemenid Persia to the Arab Sultanates came to regret it. Eunuchs made good Viziers and administrators because they didn't have anything else to focus their energies on and distract them, but the flip side was they always became scheming manipulative shitbags and detrimental to the societies they infested.
This problem is compounded by modern eunuchs being self mutilated sex addicts, that become bitter and vengeful when they realize they have fucked up the thing they spadoed themselves for in the first place.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Another example of being so close to getting it, but their victim complex rears its head in to bring them back to (distorted) reality.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

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Another example of being so close to getting it, but their victim complex rears its head in to bring them back to (distorted) reality.

"How about a normal, everyday schmuck...", that would be more difficult to find than a needle in a haystack or a winning lottery ticket.

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

His book sounds like something only a complete moron would write, look how much he wants for this piece of shit:
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No one's ever read it:
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You can't even pirate this garbage, only some other dude's older book shows up:
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Look at the very optimistic art he uses on the book's site:
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"I actually have stuff to say here"
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"Hacking Capitalism"
Truly, troons are the true accelerationists.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

I don't mean to be a buzz kill, so I'll make this request brief: can one of you niggers fucking archive shit on LinkedIn? I can't be the only one bearing witness to this shit in real time.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have hit peak lunacy. Elliot has proudly posted his prodigious piece against Kiwi Farms... AND HAS EVEN PRE-EMPTIVELY LOCKED COMMENTS DUE TO ANTICIPATED BACKLASH.

Honest question: I read this lie infested smug shit and see how people are actually buying it and get so fucking MATI that I get Hakenkreuze in my eyes. How do you guys manage it to stay lighthearted and laugh at this shit?
Please tell me your secret.

 

[LimeRikki]

Honest question: I read this lie infested smug shit and see how people are actually buying it and get so fucking MATI that I get Hakenkreuze in my eyes. How do you guys manage it to stay lighthearted and laugh at this shit?
Please tell me your secret.

I wait for Jersh to address these kinds of things on the MATI podcast instead of reading it. That way the info is presented in a humorous format.

 

[Dread First]

Honest question: I read this lie infested smug shit and see how people are actually buying it and get so fucking MATI that I get Hakenkreuze in my eyes. How do you guys manage it to stay lighthearted and laugh at this shit?
Please tell me your secret.

Remind yourself he’s a dickless faggot whose plans are slowly but surely falling apart at the seams

 

[Almighty Space Duck]

Remind yourself he’s a dickless faggot whose plans are slowly but surely falling apart at the seams

This, the whole going blind thing plus his famiry disowning him.

 

[AnOminous]

Not just Chinese eunuchs. Egyptian and Ottoman empires come to mind as having some real ambitious castratos, too! Probably any society that had court eunuchs, tbh.

"He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD." Deuteronomy 23:1.