US tracking suspected Chinese surveillance balloon - Feds afraid of popping Xi's big red balloon

"The US has been monitoring a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon that has been spotted in the skies over the northern US this week.

Pentagon officials said in a briefing they are "confident that this high-altitude surveillance balloon" belongs to China.
US military chiefs have for now decided against blowing the alleged spy craft out of the sky, citing safety concerns.
US President Joe Biden has been briefed on the situation, said the Pentagon.
The balloon was over the western state of Montana on Wednesday, according to defence officials.
They added that US military leaders, including Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin and General Mark Milley, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, met on Wednesday to assess the threat. Mr Austin was travelling to the Philippines at the time.

The military commanders advised against taking "kinetic action" against the balloon because of the danger of debris falling to the ground.
A senior defence official speaking on condition of anonymity said there was no "significantly enhanced threat" of US intelligence being compromised because US officials "know exactly where this balloon is and exactly where it's passing over".
He added that there was no threat to civilian aviation either because the balloon is "significantly" above the altitude used by commercial airlines.
The senior defence official said the US has raised the matter with Chinese officials in their embassy in Washington DC and in Beijing.
The object flew over Alaska's Aleutian Islands and through Canada before appearing over the city of Billings, Montana, on Wednesday, officials say.

During Thursday's briefing at the Pentagon, officials declined to disclose the aircraft's current location. They also refused to provide more details of the object, including its size.

"There have been reports of pilots seeing this thing even though it's pretty high up in the sky," the unnamed defence official said.
"So you know, it's, it's sizable."
The official added that similar balloons have appeared in the skies over the US in the past few years.
But the current balloon "is appearing to hang out for a longer period of time" and has been "more persistent" than previous spy crafts.
It is unclear why it was seen in that particular region of the US. Billings is around 250 miles (400km) southwest of the Malmstrom Air Force Base, which is one of three US air bases that house the Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile.
Pentagon officials refused to confirm if the base was a surveillance target, but agreed "the current flight path does carry it over a number of sensitive sites".

The alleged spy craft confounded social media users in Montana on Wednesday.
People posted photos of a pale round object in the sky that floated separately from the moon. Others reported seeing US military planes in the area, apparently monitoring the object.
It also led to a two-hour ground stop at Billings Logan International Airport after aviation officials made the decision to close 50 sq miles of air space.
It comes ahead of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken's visit to China.
The top US diplomat will be in Beijing next week to hold talks on a wide range of issues, including security, Taiwan and Covid-19.
He will meet Chinese President Xi Jinping, the Financial Times newspaper reported on Thursday."
 
Tell the blacks it called them all a nigger.

It'll be on the ground getting stomped in less than 10 minutes.
Hey man, you have good knowledge that I have noted from your posts. Check this out:
2022chinkballoon.jpg

Would you consider that to be the same as the one that is currently sightseeing your country? If it is, this image gives much more detail of the apparatus.

Above photo sourced from this April 2022 tweet:
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SOURCE: https://twitter.com/mbarksalh20/status/1517599179790561280
ARCHIVE: https://archive.ph/b2rga
 
Hey man, you have good knowledge that I have noted from your posts. Check this out:
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Would you consider that to be the same as the one that is currently sightseeing your country? If it is, this image gives much more detail of the apparatus.

Above photo sourced from this April 2022 tweet:
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SOURCE: https://twitter.com/mbarksalh20/status/1517599179790561280
ARCHIVE: https://archive.ph/b2rga
Current one is different;

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Hey man, you have good knowledge that I have noted from your posts. Check this out:
View attachment 4420216
Would you consider that to be the same as the one that is currently sightseeing your country? If it is, this image gives much more detail of the apparatus.

Above photo sourced from this April 2022 tweet:
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SOURCE: https://twitter.com/mbarksalh20/status/1517599179790561280
ARCHIVE: https://archive.ph/b2rga
Could be the same design. They're different ones, but it's basically the same design.

Of course, optimization could lead to them looking pretty much the same, like superficially planes all look the same.
 
I am far more concerned our government isn't even making an effort to tell us a believable lie about why they are letting this happen
The first thing they said, that it's likely of minimum corroborative value above what they have with satellites and shit, is all you need to hear.

This is likely a positioning test or a response probe, or both. In the former case there's no point shooting them down after they reach their destination. In the latter case the question is whether they learn more from being shot down than they do by being a happy balloon.

The correct response is sending up your own balloon with a knife taped to it. Sadly American balloon technology cannot stand up to superior Chinese ballooneering so soon you're just going to have to live in fear of the spooky beach balls hovering over every city not really doing anything.
 
A missile or a jet or a weaponized SATELLITE are about the only things that have a prayer of hitting a target that high up, barring unlikely shit like a surface-to-space laser..

They are also working on an air-based laser, IIRC on a 747 frame. Now would be a wonderful field test if they've got a working prototype - if for no other reason that unlike guns or missiles, what goes up does not come down.
The US Navy has had a surface-to-air laser weapon officially since 2014, almost a decade ago (and that’s just what they admit to publicly), with an admitted range of at least a mile through humid sea-level air. It’s made from six commercial grade welding lasers, and is not close to the most powerful weapons that have been tested since the 80’s.

The actual LaWS weapons the military has today are likely several orders of magnitude more powerful.
 
That tweet thread is already full of journos asking to use the clip. If that somehow turns out to be fake it's guaranteed to produce some lulz.
Yeah, noticed the journos asking to use it. Oddly haven't seen any more posts or stuff related to the video. The Twitter account just seems like a typical run of the mill older lady so I doubt she was "faking" it per se, but perhaps it was a meteor or something? Just odd with her also being in Montana. But then there was the news about it being in St. Louis. So something is definitely off. Is there more than one floating around?
 
This is contradicted by other reports though that no photograph of OBL was ever obtained though.


One of the reasons they went with a SEAL raid was because they couldn't confirm without a doubt that it was OBL in the compound. If they had satellite photos of his face, confirming it was him, they would have just dropped a missile on the house. But because they couldn't, they sent SEALs to raid the house, determine if he was there, and then bring back his body. This avoids the messiness of blowing up a random house that may have not had Osama and killing civilians in the adjacent houses and pissing off Pakistan whom we needed as the only land route to supply troops in Afghanistan.
Interesting report on the imagery but I'm not convinced. I'll find more/better sources tomorrow.

I've researched this mission a lot. They took photos of bin Laden when he did his daily exercises in the court yard. It was the only time he was ever outside. They had this before the raid.

Also they would never bomb that house. The intel alone was worth a raid and capturing him alive would have been a far bigger W than just bombing him and then being unable to confirm it was him...
 
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