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Not Just Bikes / r/fuckcars / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design
Anyone know ActionKid? Just a harmless YouTube who does walking, cycling and general urban exploration videos. He lived in NYC his entire life and did nice videos where he just walked or biked through various parts with some commentary. I liked it, gave a good view of the city and he never got into politics and followed traffic laws as a cyclist. Never served about road infrastructure as far as I know, just made his kind of content. Last year he finally moved out of NYC to South Florida, and guess why? Politics, homelessness, and crimes. The mentally ill are filling the streets and the city became unlivable.
He still has a rather positive look at the city, but it's nice to see people being honest about why they leave these cities. No city is walkable when politics let the city deteriote like that, and no amount of cycling lanes or banning cars is gonna change that.
He seems obscure enough that he hasn't reached the radar of the urbanist-inclined yet. I don't know how to search YT comments but the comments on that video seem fine. Compare to when Not Just Bikes commented this on one of Louis Rossmann's videos about leaving NYC: (original video)
Anyone know ActionKid? Just a harmless YouTube who does walking, cycling and general urban exploration videos. He lived in NYC his entire life and did nice videos where he just walked or biked through various parts with some commentary. I liked it, gave a good view of the city and he never got into politics and followed traffic laws as a cyclist. Never served about road infrastructure as far as I know, just made his kind of content. Last year he finally moved out of NYC to South Florida, and guess why? Politics, homelessness, and crimes. The mentally ill are filling the streets and the city became unlivable.
He still has a rather positive look at the city, but it's nice to see people being honest about why they leave these cities. No city is walkable when politics let the city deteriote like that, and no amount of cycling lanes or banning cars is gonna change that.
Has NJB ever actually been in a 30 year old subdivision? I've been in neighborhoods 80+ years old that were basically just as nice as they were when they were built. Other than routine shit like streetlight replacement and sewer cleanings, the only real thing cities have to do is repave streets, like... once every 40 years. And that's assuming you're in the North or something where the winter thaw cycles chew up the roads.
Every major city in North America has been building sprawling suburbs on their outskirts for decades now. If it really WAS that much of a financial burden, towns and cities would have started going bankrupt en masse back in the 1980s.
Every major city in North America has been building sprawling suburbs on their outskirts for decades now. If it really WAS that much of a financial burden, towns and cities would have started going bankrupt en masse back in the 1980s.
They handwave this away by saying they get their funding from growth and investment from building new suburbs, or saying that ackshually cities subsidize suburbs, or something else. So it's an unfalsifiable theory.
They're protesting the government tracking their cars and charging them to move around their city. I've seen how cyclists react whenever someone proposes a bike registration scheme:
The irony:
Oh, they're just trying to stop people from driving. Guess the "conspiracy theorists" were right then: Link in comment(Archive)
This is something anti-car people never seem to realize: that car-dependent cities are already 15 minute cities as defined from being no more than 15 minutes of travel time away from daily errands:
That thing isn't convincing anyone, especially because Texan cities already build a ton of all types of housing. They're just struggling to keep up with a massive burst of immigration and inflation.
As always, urbanists can never seem to freely admit they don't want people to drive, period.
It's also telling that cars are so good they have to come up with plans to actively punish you for driving instead of having better alternative transportation.
Urbanists always have to come up with conspiracy theories of their own to explain away things. Why haven't suburbs crumbled yet despite them claimed to be financially insolvent? "Oh because there's actually a whole Ponzi scheme that keeps the whole thing afloat." Why do people protest any plans to take away their cars? "Oh because they're actually funded by Big Oil so you can safely disregard their opinion."
That thing isn't convincing anyone, especially because Texan cities already build a ton of all types of housing. They're just struggling to keep up with a massive burst of immigration and inflation.
I love how one of the points is straight up "just fearmonger". It's the only way they have any chance of convincing people because they sure as hell can't do it with logic.
Some information on Traffic Filters and Oxford, UK. The cost for an unauthorized car or one over the allotted number of trips is £70 if you cross the gate. Now the defense these fuckers have is that Oxford has great public transit and people will be able to use that to get where they want to go because that amenity is close by. Traffic Filter Cost and After Tax Average Wage in Oxford per day.
The issue with that premise is that sometimes the stuff a person wants or needs is not so close by. Perhaps the shop in that 15 minute zone does not sell the specific item you need, perhaps they are out of it, or maybe they do sell that general type of item but its not the specific brand you want. As an example, a person could prefer a certain restaurant over the one in the 15 minute zone. Or perhaps the person works in an area outside the zone.
Using the Traffic Filter information page provided by Oxford, I set a home location of Bennett Cres and the restaurant as the famous Donburi Inn. Taking public transportation, it would take 27 minutes to make it there.
The buses still have to make stops no matter if you add more. At a certain point, the cost to benefit ratio becomes unsustainable or it even creates congestion.
Regarding the Oxford example, City46 runs every hour and takes 26 minutes in journey time with 18 stops, whereas by car the journey takes only 12 minutes. A complete journey robs me almost half an hour of my life.
Of course...so in Jolly Ole England and more specifically, Oxford it rains on average a 123 times a year. That sounds great! I can either ride in my bike and be wet and cold or I can drive my car and be warm and dry. Now, what about summer heat waves where the temperature were around 90 to 100 F degrees?
Let me guess another great time to ride a bike to get to work.
Absolutely. Not everyday is where the weather is foul or very hot. So lets go through this...I spend 10 hours a day cleaning, prepping, cooking, serving, and cleaning again so I can ride a bike 5 km.
Again, the bus takes 26 minutes longer. That robs me of over three days per year of my life. Furthermore, for your autistic screeching about cars being bad for a persons health well you know what I could be doing with the extra half a hour?
Exercising.
The more I look into these people the more I believe they think society is a game of City Skylines or Sim City. Almost as if the residents of a city are boxes to be ticked by something they can just plop down or envision in their delusional fantasies. Technology Connections: Exploring an useful autist
Technology Connections committing heresy ! Owning an electric car and living in detached single family housing.
I wanted to address the use of Technology Connections as a useful autist for the r/NotJustBikes and/or r/FuckCars. This came through on the issue of gas stoves with Jason Slaughter supporting his videos. Based on my viewing of Technology Connections videos, the guy lives a life that most of them would have issues with as he lives in a single family house and has an electric car. The prevailing belief on the subreddit is that private car ownership is generally very negative and living in a single family residence only slightly less bad.
Electric cars continue to cause traffic violence, waste space and perpetuate sprawl, disproportionately burden the poorest and those who cannot drive, and will not be enough to tackle our climate and air pollution crisis.
However these advantages are so small that they are negligible compared to the advantages of real solutions such as public transportation and bicycle/pedestrian infrastructure.
Furthermore, small cars are in many ways not any better than larger ones. For example: they still require a vast and space-consuming infrastucture and help to uphold car dependency.
So what is there intentions? I believe Jason Slaughter wants to rope in useful idiots that they can use to further their goals. It's similar to Jason driving in the Netherlands. The private actions of those in charge of the academy are none of your concern...only the message is important
of living in mass transit dependent urban area so that urbanites have more money to subsidize their lifestyle.
P.S. As an aside, Technology Connections brought up how his electric car would allow him to operate certain electronic devices in his house in the event of a power outage. That is great but as a prepper I see urban prepping as a challenge. As pointed out by these urbanites, the belief is that people should be comfortable in accommodations that are 100sq feet to 400sq feet. Such a small living space dramatically limits your space and makes it difficult to store the things needed to live ones life much less prep. While it can be done their are significant limitations.
Personally, I would not want to be in these walkable urban communities after a major disaster like an earthquake or a hurricane.
I can see it now, these fucking bugmen that mostly order out or do not have a large panty because they prefer daily grocery trips are two days without significant sustenance making them extraordinarily hungry. FEMA will probably start making MRE's and other food available about three days after but only in very small quantities.
They might be able to bring the food back to their apartment but they could also be mugged of their food by a group of niggers. They might try aid or evacuation centers but we know how a hastily thrown together evacuation center works out:
If you are prepping for a natural disaster, I recommend at least 30 days of food / supplies. Don't overlook if you have pets.
He seems obscure enough that he hasn't reached the radar of the urbanist-inclined yet. I don't know how to search YT comments but the comments on that video seem fine. Compare to when Not Just Bikes commented this on one of Louis Rossmann's videos about leaving NYC: View attachment 4398368 (original video)
Your neighborhood is nice now, but in 30 years it will be crumbling and broken, and there won't be enough money to maintain it. And anybody with the means will move elsewhere.
This does not track with reality. In looking at the data, I went with the original suburb of Levittown , NY. The town that Levittown is part of is a AAA credit rating and the real estate market is still somewhat competitive according RedFin. Levittown has been around as the suburb it is now since the 1950's. Sorry Jason, the data doesn't add up.
As always, urbanists can never seem to freely admit they don't want people to drive, period.
It's also telling that cars are so good they have to come up with plans to actively punish you for driving instead of having better alternative transportation.
These people are so delusional that they legitimately believe that the majority of the opposition to these plans are paid shills from oil and car companies. They seriously just cannot comprehend that a lot of people want to drive cars.
I wonder how long until they start openly going mask off and admitting they don't really give a shit about walkability and transit and just fucking hate cars on a conceptual level.
These people are so delusional that they legitimately believe that the majority of the opposition to these plans are paid shills from oil and car companies. They seriously just cannot comprehend that a lot of people want to drive cars.
I wonder how long until they start openly going mask off and admitting they don't really give a shit about walkability and transit and just fucking hate cars on a conceptual level.
Apparently bike companies fund anti-car podcasts and billionaires lobby for bike infrastructure, yet somehow Big Oil and Big Car fund everyone who likes cars: Source(Archive)
These people are so delusional that they legitimately believe that the majority of the opposition to these plans are paid shills from oil and car companies. They seriously just cannot comprehend that a lot of people want to drive cars.
I wonder how long until they start openly going mask off and admitting they don't really give a shit about walkability and transit and just fucking hate cars on a conceptual level.
I have a lot of Big Thoughts about their "reasoning", but a lot of it can be summed up as, "Just fucking do it, faggot."
The life these people say they want is available all over the damn country. Look around your city and you can find neighborhoods where you can ride your bike or walk or take transit where you want/need to go. Yeah, it won't be perfectly convenient for all your consooming desires, but you can do it. Life as a grown up is about making those kinds of trade offs. Quit bitching on the internet like a fucking child who wants another tendy and rearrange your life a little and you can do all this shit. Quit complaining so much about what other people are doing and do your own shit.
Apparently bike companies fund anti-car podcasts and billionaires lobby for bike infrastructure, yet somehow Big Oil and Big Car fund everyone who likes cars: View attachment 4413148 Source(Archive)
It's almost as if, and hear me out on this, all those bike brands are too busy making products people actually want instead of blowing their entire advert budget funding obnoxious assholes that don't actually buy their bikes (most urbanists stick to cheapo commuters because an actual nice bike will just get stolen in five seconds).
Also I know for a fact that at least Trek and SRAM sponsor several youtubers (and I'm sure Cannondale and all the others do too). That said the YouTubers they do sponsor take the money and free bikes/parts and use it to make videos that get more people interested in biking. Funding podcasts about car hateboners both doesn't actually sell them bikes nor does it really help their image at all so why would they?
Also Rad Power Bikes? Oyea, the chinese bike importer that just recalled an entire model line for massive safety concerns created from cheap and shoddy build quality. Glad to know they care more about hating on cars than making a quality product that won't injure their customers.
They handwave this away by saying they get their funding from growth and investment from building new suburbs, or saying that ackshually cities subsidize suburbs, or something else. So it's an unfalsifiable theory.
It is falsifiable though. Remind them that the cities that had set borders (New York, Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit, etc., pretty much every city that wasn't LA, Houston, or Florida) couldn't "add suburbs" because of their existing density. And they all lost population in the 1960s to 1980s.
This not only disproves the "muh subsidized suburbs" entirely but also suggests that there wasn't some grand conspiracy manipulated by industries, and that big cities' shitty policies at least contributed in people moving out.
A walkable city were you'll have any convenience in a 15 minute radius from any point is certainly desirable. Not even a weird concept, since most European cities are kinda mixed use by default they're also kinda 15 minute cities by default. It's just the rural areas and villages that sometimes lack anemities and really require car usage.
I haven't had a car for the longest time, never needed it. Still don't really need it that much, but it's absolutely great to have one. Yeah, I prefer bicycles and trains, but the convenience of a private car is undeniable. No, car sharing or renting just isn't good. Maybe in the future, but the problem is that people treat things that aren't theirs like shit, so car sharing will likely never be great.
But yeah, gotta hand it to the urbanists, their idealistic vision of the city is great. Until it is met with reality, which involves homelessness, living costs, "urban demographics", lack of autonomy when it comes to travel, and even things like indulging in hobbies.
Guitarists with disposable income might know how hard it is to keep the amount of instruments at a convenient level, and how much space they can take.
Wanna do anything practical that takes space? Shit out of luck.
I really can't wrap my head around the "15 Minute City" concept. Even in Tokyo, which is just about as optimized as a city can be, the average commute time is an hour. It takes 15 minutes just to walk to the train station more often than not. The only conclusion I can come to is that the people pitching these ideas are shut in NEETs. Or maybe they're just really bummed that the Walled City is no longer a thing.
Do the food delivery serfs get to drive cars in this enlightened future society, or are we going to subsidize Uber Eats, too?
While I'm a huge proponent of more and better public transport, I at least understand the limitations. A good example is from Manchester, which I used to live near in the early aughts. There was on particularly popular route from Ashton to Piccadilly Circus - the 192. The buses were always crowded at peak times, so the companies running the route (and the 200/201, which ran the same route between 9 and 4) added more buses. And then more buses. And then more buses. It hit its farcical peak when you could walk into Piccadilly and see a dozen or more 192 buses queuing at the bus station, all loaded up with people who couldn't get off even though they were just a few meters from the stop. You would find a similar bus jam at most of the important stops along the route. That's the inevitable result of "more public transport".
The real problem with cities has always been the problem with cities: centralisation. Cities will always be crowded and transport within them will always be overcrowded as well, because they've centralised so many people into a relatively small area.
The "15 minute city" concept is incompatible with the idea of a city itself, because the whole point of cities is to conglomerate and rationalise services into centralised hubs. When you actually examine the idea of a "15 minute city", what you find is that it's actually describing a village. Villages don't survive incorporation into a city.
@LaxerBRO ,simply well thought out post. Also 100 pages of bugbrained autism lads.
But onto the point, I don't want, nor is it wise it go grocery shopping every day. Not only are you setting yourself up for failure with the prepping issue, only able to take what you can carry, but you're gonna forget the chicken for your chicken alfredo one night, after biking all the way home with the rest of the ingredients. In this situation, you can make fettuccine with Alfredo sauce, but that is one cucked out meal, and you will have to sit there, knowing that if you bought that old 90's camry, you'd be eating like a king tonight.
I really can't wrap my head around the "15 Minute City" concept. Even in Tokyo, which is just about as optimized as a city can be, the average commute time is an hour. It takes 15 minutes just to walk to the train station more often than not. The only conclusion I can come to is that the people pitching these ideas are shut in NEETs. Or maybe they're just really bummed that the Walled City is no longer a thing.
Do the food delivery serfs get to drive cars in this enlightened future society, or are we going to subsidize Uber Eats, too?
The concept doesn't really involve commuting. It's just about having daily necessities within that range from your home.
Food delivery serfs already mostly use e-bikes here.
The concept doesn't really involve commuting. It's just about having daily necessities within that range from your home.
Food delivery serfs already mostly use e-bikes here.
The concept doesn't work outside of a college campus mindset. It only works in college because you've got an entire university working out the logicists for 10 to 30 thousand retards. Real life doesn't work that way.
The whole point of having a house is having space to prepare your own life according to your needs. Living in a bug pod doesn't let you do that. You are absolutely beholden to your community in every way. Inclimate weather or natural disaster making your necessary daily trips to the market impossible? Hope you didn't get complacent so you don't starve. If you have space you can have a pantry or freezer full of goods. You can buy in bulk when it's extra cheap to be even more efficient. Not only do you save in time and money on a personal level, so does society by the way it aggragates that efficiency. There's a reason Costco and Sam's are huge retailers. Why buy 4 rolls of toilet paper for 10 dollars when you can buy 40 for 40?
The concept doesn't work outside of a college campus mindset. It only works in college because you've got an entire university working out the logicists for 10 to 30 thousand retards. Real life doesn't work that way.
The whole point of having a house is having space to prepare your own life according to your needs. Living in a bug pod doesn't let you do that. You are absolutely beholden to your community in every way. Inclimate weather or natural disaster making your necessary daily trips to the market impossible? Hope you didn't get complacent so you don't starve. If you have space you can have a pantry or freezer full of goods. You can buy in bulk when it's extra cheap to be even more efficient. Not only do you save in time and money on a personal level, so does society by the way it aggragates that efficiency. There's a reason Costco and Sam's are huge retailers. Why buy 4 rolls of toilet paper for 10 dollars when you can buy 40 for 40?
Pretty much, yeah. If you actually want to do things in a proper bughive, it's gonna be shared. The proponents are like "Why have your own hobby room or workshop? Just go to the nearest Makerspace", but that's just giving up more autonomy. You can't just do your thing whenever you want in a place of your choosing and design. You're dependent on the hive allowing you to do things. It's the same with transport. Yes, you can go without car. But you give up autonomy and put yourself in dependence on an external provider of transportation who may or may not shut down when they feel like it. And in times where most governments are not exactly building up trust and confidence in them, that just kinda sucks. I simply do not trust our government to be benign and not take away my mobility via public transport at some point. Cars aren't perfect and not a foolproof solution to transportation autonomy, but at least you have control over it yourself, more than the busses and trains.
Pretty much, yeah. If you actually want to do things in a proper bughive, it's gonna be shared. The proponents are like "Why have your own hobby room or workshop? Just go to the nearest Makerspace", but that's just giving up more autonomy. You can't just do your thing whenever you want in a place of your choosing and design. You're dependent on the hive allowing you to do things. It's the same with transport. Yes, you can go without car.
There isn't an end to the "shared" components. Have you heard of, for instance, Le Tote? They might be familiar as they bought a century-old department store brand (and despite it having some hard times in the last twenty years or so, they quickly ran it into the ground for good) but the concept is that they rent clothing with a focus on everyday wear (so this isn't just renting something fancy for an event, as formal wear stores have been known to do for years).
Obviously, this is a tiny business and probably doesn't get much beyond people trying it for novelty, but this is the future they want.
