US tracking suspected Chinese surveillance balloon - Feds afraid of popping Xi's big red balloon

"The US has been monitoring a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon that has been spotted in the skies over the northern US this week.

Pentagon officials said in a briefing they are "confident that this high-altitude surveillance balloon" belongs to China.
US military chiefs have for now decided against blowing the alleged spy craft out of the sky, citing safety concerns.
US President Joe Biden has been briefed on the situation, said the Pentagon.
The balloon was over the western state of Montana on Wednesday, according to defence officials.
They added that US military leaders, including Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin and General Mark Milley, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, met on Wednesday to assess the threat. Mr Austin was travelling to the Philippines at the time.

The military commanders advised against taking "kinetic action" against the balloon because of the danger of debris falling to the ground.
A senior defence official speaking on condition of anonymity said there was no "significantly enhanced threat" of US intelligence being compromised because US officials "know exactly where this balloon is and exactly where it's passing over".
He added that there was no threat to civilian aviation either because the balloon is "significantly" above the altitude used by commercial airlines.
The senior defence official said the US has raised the matter with Chinese officials in their embassy in Washington DC and in Beijing.
The object flew over Alaska's Aleutian Islands and through Canada before appearing over the city of Billings, Montana, on Wednesday, officials say.

During Thursday's briefing at the Pentagon, officials declined to disclose the aircraft's current location. They also refused to provide more details of the object, including its size.

"There have been reports of pilots seeing this thing even though it's pretty high up in the sky," the unnamed defence official said.
"So you know, it's, it's sizable."
The official added that similar balloons have appeared in the skies over the US in the past few years.
But the current balloon "is appearing to hang out for a longer period of time" and has been "more persistent" than previous spy crafts.
It is unclear why it was seen in that particular region of the US. Billings is around 250 miles (400km) southwest of the Malmstrom Air Force Base, which is one of three US air bases that house the Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile.
Pentagon officials refused to confirm if the base was a surveillance target, but agreed "the current flight path does carry it over a number of sensitive sites".

The alleged spy craft confounded social media users in Montana on Wednesday.
People posted photos of a pale round object in the sky that floated separately from the moon. Others reported seeing US military planes in the area, apparently monitoring the object.
It also led to a two-hour ground stop at Billings Logan International Airport after aviation officials made the decision to close 50 sq miles of air space.
It comes ahead of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken's visit to China.
The top US diplomat will be in Beijing next week to hold talks on a wide range of issues, including security, Taiwan and Covid-19.
He will meet Chinese President Xi Jinping, the Financial Times newspaper reported on Thursday."
 
Something from Ben Garrison.

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Am I a naive idiot for assuming this balloon is a nothing burger and probably some stupid science-monitoring thing that got blown off course?
No, I mentioned something similar in the Biden thread, and I still stand behind that sentiment. There are more efficient and more discreet ways for the Chinese to spy on us without us knowing or being able to do anything about it.

I hate how the government can just tell the media to not report on anything that is or not happening. Gotta keep the public in the dark to not cause wide panic.
I'm reminded of how this regime told Fox News to stop flying a drone of theirs over a bording crossing which for whatever reason they complied with. I suppose the lesson to be learned here is that we should ask the Chinese to monitor the border for us.
 
Looking at the brainletts on twitter and reddit giving insane takes about how they should handle the situation. I understand the lack of faith in government but at the same time it would be retarded to think you would know better then the National Defence in Canada or the U.S DoD. They probably know exactly what it is and allowed it in on purpose because its not actually a threat. I can't Imagine China needing a weather balloon rig to spy on anyone it seems retarded. If I had to take an educated guess its something they use to monitor ships and air traffic in the pacific ocean and it somehow got blown off course and ended up in foreign territory. I would Imagine China already has high resolution pictures of most of the world just like every other country has.
 
Thanks to that balloon
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken postponed a visit to China after a suspected Chinese spy balloon was tracked flying across the United States in what Washington called a 'clear violation' of U.S. sovereignty. Military leaders considered shooting down the high-altitude surveillance balloon on Wednesday but eventually recommended against this to President Joe Biden because of the safety risk from debris, officials said.
 
i love how so many people are freaking out about a balloon saying that it makes us look weak as a country that a balloon got here to spy on us when china has hundreds of spy satellites out there right now. lets not forget the various spy programs that are out there as well.

like if china is resorting to balloons to spy on us i think that says more about them than it does about us and as far as shooting it down i would just go grab the tech off it but leave the balloon.

maybe i just watch too much tv but popping a random balloon sounds like a recipe for mysterious new disease sweeps the country nonsense again since who knows whats inside the balloon itself.

oh and another thing if we have actually important top secret stuff just out there able to be accessed via balloon thats kinda pathetic.
 
i love how so many people are freaking out about a balloon saying that it makes us look weak as a country that a balloon got here to spy on us when china has hundreds of spy satellites out there right now. lets not forget the various spy programs that are out there as well.

like if china is resorting to balloons to spy on us i think that says more about them than it does about us and as far as shooting it down i would just go grab the tech off it but leave the balloon.

maybe i just watch too much tv but popping a random balloon sounds like a recipe for mysterious new disease sweeps the country nonsense again since who knows whats inside the balloon itself.

oh and another thing if we have actually important top secret stuff just out there able to be accessed via balloon thats kinda pathetic.
Territorial borders don't apply to space space, airspace is different
 
Maybe China are testing the limits a little bit and watching the gov reaction.
Well regardless they just gave us a fully intact surveillance device the size of 3 buses they probably have many of them in operation and we are gonna study the fuck out of it and figure out what its capabilities are and ways to create countermeasures against it. I am certain the US DoD know what it is but they don't have the full specs on it, now they can do a full write up on the device. If it is incompetence on China they basically gave up one of their cards in their deck letting it fly into our airspace, they are not getting it back.
 
Genuine question: Why did they choose a white balloon to spy instead of blue to match the skies so it isn’t as noticeable?
If I had to guess, I'd say it's to reduce the effect of sunlight increasing the temperature of the trapped gas during the day. Otherwise the gas pressure between day and night would vary too much and cause it to bob up and down in the atmosphere. Again, just guessing.
 
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